Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.
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Jake Bradock

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Feb 18, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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Neither YOU people nor US nor anyone has created any thing in this Universe.
We have only used the God given material, using God given knowledge and faculties to "modify" these materials into some thing which can meet some of our requirements.
This is not creation and some one who is better in these things at some time in this world does not give them a right to look down on others.
In fact they should show humility and sing the praises of Creator for giving them these gifts and bounties.
If they use this position for show off and boasts and look down on others....there is every chance that these gifts might be taken from them.
It was not from very beginning that these nations who are on top of world today were always in the same condition thru out their history and there is no guarantee shall always remain on top.
So it is best path to thank Creator and do not boast too much.
Under the creators infanant love and guidence the US extinguished slavery from its boarders, unlike what we see the people of mohummed doing now days in african and arab nations.
The Bender Bashers

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Feb 18, 2013
 
Liam wrote:
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Hey Muzza filth mouth, What great Muslim nation did you leave to live as a Christian in a Christian land.?
Or are you to ashamed of your muslin heritage your muslim people to divulge this information.
You go do KABBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOM, you not divulge you filth mouth MalbarCACA heritage, why?

You him Jake CASTRATO brother?
The Bender Bashers

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Feb 18, 2013
 
Liam wrote:
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We don't fear Hairy back unwashed muslim middle eastern dress wearing fairy's.
You lot are cowards like the crying no good hate filled immigrants, we have here, brought before the courts after their flip out on Sydney streets. Lousy deserters .
You go do KABBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOM, you not divulge you filth mouth MalbarCACA Hairy back unwashed heritage, why?

You lot are cowards no good hate filled immigrants?

You him Jake CASTRATO brother?
MUQ

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Sing, hahaha, a Muslim sing hahaha, do Muslims sing,,, hahaha, do Muslims sing so well that they have hits on the Hip Parade?? Hahaha, Can muslims sing well enough to sell one million records ,hahaha
You barbarians couldn't carry a tune if your life depended on it. Remember, your pretty useless, you still haven't built a decent country, India is still a sh^thole just like most middle eastern countries!!!
Hahaha, go sing a song.. MUQ!!
What happened to you? Why this hysteria? Did you come out of Lady gaga or Lady Madonna's concert?
MUQ

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Neville Thompson wrote:
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All creation comes from god .
Does this mean that non Muslims are closer to god as they have fulfilled their obligation ?
Man's first obligation is to recognize their Creator and live their lives according to His guidance.

Non Muslims do not pass even the first test...who cares for their progress in science and technology when they do not fulfill their main purpose of life?

Who would give you marks in Math's paper for writing down Theories of Chemistry?
MUQ

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Iran and Everything Else

By Michael Parenti

August 07, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Occasionally individuals complain that I fail to address one subject or another. One Berkeley denizen got in my face and announced: "You leftists ought to become aware of the ecological crisis." In fact, I had written a number of things about the ecological crisis, including one called "Eco-Apocalypse." His lack of familiarity with my work did not get in the way of his presumption.

Years ago when I spoke before the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom in New York, the moderator announced that she could not understand why I had "remained silent" about the attempt to defund UNESCO. Whatever else I might have been struggling with, she was convinced I should have joined with her in trying to save UNESCO (which itself really was a worthy cause).

People give me marching orders all the time. Among the most furiously insistent are those fixed on 9/11. Why haven’t I said anything about 9/11? Why am I "a 9/11 denier." In fact, I have written about 9/11 and even spoke at two 9/11 conferences (Santa Cruz and New York), raising questions of my own.

Other people have been "disappointed" or "astonished" or "puzzled" that I have failed to pronounce on whatever is the issue du jour. No attention is given by such complainers to my many books, articles, talks, and interviews that treat hundreds of subjects pertaining to political economy, culture, ideology, media, fascism, communism, capitalism, imperialism, media, ecology, political protest, history, religion, race, gender, homophobia, and other topics far too numerous to list.(For starters, visit my website: www.michaelparenti.org )

But one’s own energy, no matter how substantial, is always finite. One must allow for a division of labor and cannot hope to fight every fight.

Recently someone asked when was I going to "pay some attention" to Iran. Actually I have spoken about Iran in a number of interviews and talks---not to satisfy demands made by others but because I myself was moved to do so. In the last decade, over a five year period, I was repeatedly interviewed by English Radio Tehran. My concern about Iran goes back many years. Just the other day, while clearing out some old files, I came across a letter I had published over 33 years ago in the New York Times (10 May 1979), reproduced here exactly as it appeared in the Times:

To the Editor of the New York Times:

For 25 years the Shah of Iran tortured and murdered many thousands of dissident workers, students, peasants and intellectuals. For the most part, the U.S. press ignored these dreadful happenings and portrayed the Shah as a citadel of stability and an enlightened modernizer.

Thousands more were killed by the Shah’s police and military during the popular uprisings of this past year. Yet these casualties received only passing mention even though Iran was front-page news for several months. And from 1953 to 1978 millions of other Iranians suffered the silent oppression of poverty and malnutrition while the Shah, his family, and his generals grew ever richer.

Liam

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Feb 18, 2013
 
The Bender Bashers wrote:
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You go do KABBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOM, you not divulge you filth mouth MalbarCACA Hairy back unwashed heritage, why?
You lot are cowards no good hate filled immigrants?
You him Jake CASTRATO brother?
" you not divulge you filth mouth " "You him Jake CASTRATO brother?"

What ?

Its hard to understand your broken migrant English, I was born in a Australia and proud to be Australian, if that's what you mean.

What nationality are you proud to be ?

“Piss the Queen off Our coins!”

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Feb 18, 2013
 
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Man's first obligation is to recognize their Creator and live their lives according to His guidance.
Non Muslims do not pass even the first test...who cares for their progress in science and technology when they do not fulfill their main purpose of life?
Who would give you marks in Math's paper for writing down Theories of Chemistry?
Man has no obligation to recognize a fictional creator or live their lives according to anyone but the laws of the land.

There is no God.
Africooninsky

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Feb 18, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
Despite Europeans teaching black people Christianity they still hate your guts Lol !
Glad you mentioned the Hating Of Guts,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...

Never seen anyone hate another's guts like muslim hating a muslim ?

Why, is it because a sunni pulls his bum cheek to the left when he craps on the ground and a shiite pulls his to the right ?
MUQ

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MUQ lord of the Kaaba wrote:
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Islam tells us (today's version from some sects) that the Kaaba and the quran 'is older than
creation'.
Is that correct MUQ ?
Does your lord of the Kaaba with a fake little bits of gravel glued into a tacky silver vulva on his east side - little fragments of fieldspar gathered up as an expedient excise to collect the huge ransom paid for this 18 years after the quarmations in 930 ad had defiled & destroyed and cast the little fragments of the original large stone into the waste pit to stop Islam from worshipping false idols. 99%'never found'.
Was this lord of the kaaba also around for eternity,'before creation itself'?
How does he feel as a billion muslims prostrate & slaver to a false idol and a false man made object at that.
Does he have a voice this lord of the Kaaba ?
Does he weep for his missing black stone, defiled, lost, smashed into fragments, somewhere out there in the lost sands of time.
After all the lord of the Kaaba is meant to protect the idols and objects from such things.
Was he not a good lord of a Kaaba perhaps or perhaps Allah wanted the black stone gone as he was pretty clear that Abraham had a point not to worshipping objects and or false lords - and the quarmations were just following that instruction when they stole the black stone, defiled it, DECONSECRATED it, smashed it up and scattered it into a stony pit somewhere in Hajar.
I guess one day the lord of the Kaaba will tell all.
These and many other mysteries of Islam...
You have asked too many questions in one post.

Please ask one question at a time, please.

PS:

Asking too many questions at one time, shows that you do not want any answer, but trying to "impose" you own views on others.

For the sake of decency, ask one question and after getting answer, pose next one and so on.

Let us "pretend" that we are having "civil" discussions, shall we?
MUQ

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Rob in Adelaide wrote:
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Man has no obligation to recognize a fictional creator or live their lives according to anyone but the laws of the land.
There is no God.
Only a man who has "stunted" reasoning power would make a statement like that.

The "first" question any thinking and logical and reasonable man, when looking at this universe would ask "Vow! Who made all this" and "Why I am here and what is purpose of my existence"?

If these questions do not arise in any one's mind, then he is just like an "animal" who has not fully "evolved" and is in between human and his "ape like ancestor".

And in fact Quran names such persons "they are like cattle, nay even worse than them..." (Because cattle perform their function, they eat, they drink, they procreate and they provide their own bodies as food , drink and protection from heat and cold for that "higher animal" called as human.

I am sorry , I thought you people were "fully evolved" from animal to full humans. I was wrong.

Jake Bradock

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Its hard to convince anyone of a true existence of a loving god MUQ from the postion of islam given the un-godly evil done in its name, one is better off turning to Jesus for salvation
Harold

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Feb 18, 2013
 
Jake Bradock wrote:
Its hard to convince anyone of a true existence of a loving god MUQ from the postion of islam given the un-godly evil done in its name, one is better off turning to Jesus for salvation
Correct, Muq keeps stating how wonderful islam is but it doesn't make sense.

For the religion of peace.

Muq where is this peace please point it out
india has poo all over it

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Feb 18, 2013
 
indians shit on everything, so they must shit on the koran. when will the muslims attacking india for shitting on the koran ?
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Only a man who has "stunted" reasoning power would make a statement like that.
The "first" question any thinking and logical and reasonable man, when looking at this universe would ask "Vow! Who made all this" and "Why I am here and what is purpose of my existence"?
If these questions do not arise in any one's mind, then he is just like an "animal" who has not fully "evolved" and is in between human and his "ape like ancestor".
And in fact Quran names such persons "they are like cattle, nay even worse than them..." (Because cattle perform their function, they eat, they drink, they procreate and they provide their own bodies as food , drink and protection from heat and cold for that "higher animal" called as human.
I am sorry , I thought you people were "fully evolved" from animal to full humans. I was wrong.
Yeah what is our purpose? I am still waiting for that answer. Maybe it is justification to have sex with captured women because you are horny and away from your wife. Maybe that is what God wants; to act even worse than animals. Perhaps instead of being cattle we should be wolves like Muhammad.

So far, from physical observation, all I can note is that we used to eat plant matter raw, we used to be able to have movement in our ears, we share ancestry with reptiles or common features such as a reptilian two chamber heart rare gene, we still suffer spinal and intestinal problems from walking upright, we are still adapting to more efficiently eating meat, we still have a remnant third eyelid, our wisdom teeth continue to pester us when have no room for it, we still involuntarily gulp for air and "hiccup", lice have adapted to live on clothing for 30 000 years.

Yes all this "evolving", "ape-like ancestry" must be folly because the quran has not delved deep into the matter.

Folks, this is what religion can do to the brain. Sometimes instead of seeing the sun for what it is, you must scramble around mountain top views and valleys; looking for justification in your religion and if you cannot you must "quote-unquote" everything you cannot adhere to. At least Christians had the sense to see their previous views were contradictory to solid facts.
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india has poo all over it wrote:
indians shit on everything, so they must shit on the koran. when will the muslims attacking india for shitting on the koran ?
Why they shit on Quran when they have their own Vedas, Gitas, Ramayanas, Mahabharata, Manu Smiritis and hundreds of other books?

Then Christians would be able to extend their Bibles for shitting purpose...because that is the only use for Bible in western world, Bible has ceased to be a book that had any force in any of the western country,

When they have done all that, then they dare look at Quran and then they will realize that they have exhausted all their shit and have shitted in their pants and dhoties and what else they wear in the lower parts of their bodies.
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At least you swine eaters do think of the Quran 24 / 7 Lol !

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Feb 19, 2013
 
We are currently traveling and so I don't have time to address issues that I normally would. What I have posted below should be mandatory reading for all non Muslims (and Muslims)

Muslim Brotherhood Expose’

Who is ISNA? MPAC? The Islamic Shura Council? MAS? ICNA?

Who is Muzammil Siddiqi? Jamal Badawi? Parvez Ahmed? Dalia Mogahed?

What does the Muslim Brotherhood explanatory memorandum for North America say about “civilization jihad” against the West?

Find out this and more by visiting the ACT! for America Education expose’,“Unmasking the Muslim Brotherhood in America.”

You’ll learn about the background of these organizations…how they’re interconnected…who the leaders are…and their views and quotes they don’t want Americans to know about!

http://www.brotherhoodunmasked.net/index-2.ht ...
MUQ shirks again

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Why they shit on Quran when they have their own Vedas, Gitas, Ramayanas, Mahabharata, Manu Smiritis and hundreds of other books?
Then Christians would be able to extend their Bibles for shitting purpose...because that is the only use for Bible in western world, Bible has ceased to be a book that had any force in any of the western country,
When they have done all that, then they dare
look at Quran and then they will realize that they have exhausted all their shit and have shitted in their pants and dhoties and what else they wear in the lower parts of their bodies.
MUQ you make too many statements here and seek to impose your views on others.
Very emotional and illogical views without any foundation.
After all the bible is never claimed as a miracle or as old as eternity itself. It vibrantly offers different opinions and conflicts and allows each reader to gain context as insight and metaphors - rather than say rote prescriptive illogical and false rules.
There is no secret the bible has gone thru many reinterpretions, evolutions, updates, reformations, and yet despite all that the essence of the message is still pretty good and universal.

Now the Quran, only read by a few, understood by even less as a political or ideological manifesto, is from the same rootstock, Judaism.
The Ishmaelites were doing ok until muhammad made a mess of it. He introduced absolutism, blocked evolution, got a lot wrong (fair enough as his jewish coaches never anticipated he would go rougue and replace Yahweh with Hubal/Allah and synthesis in pagan rituals & polytheism.
So if the bible is toilet paper to use, we can handle that.
But the Quran is used toliet paper, the very words and structure and integrity of the Quran is mediocre to awful. Anyone with a basic knowledge of the ishmaelite myth could have written a better branch and fable.
Anyone could have structured the Quran into a format that allowed extension, incorporation and evolution. Even the mostly tactical writer of an ideology for a society embracing monotheism (well paganised variant of it) would allow clear
succession plans.
Even the Quran format is silly with it's long to short sura's rather than chronological orders and subject groupings. Many sura's conflict, clash or leave massive gaps assuming the Quran can only be used in conjunction with the old testament as the writers were lazy and wrote it as an extension rather than a complete book.
It reads as a mad, scrambled, contradictory footnote on some one else's 'book' ie a large chunk of the bible - rather than as a complete standalone work. Indeed the Quran extensively refers to the old testament and the bible as a basis for the quran's own validity !
So no Islam can smear the bible without smearing the Quran and the beliefs of muhhammad who used and quoted and extended the bible in promoting his own view and beliefs..
In fact MUQ to do so is shirk and thats a very big sin in Islam as you know.
Allah would say you fully understand this sin and thus he will reserve the most severe punishment for you. The Quran tells you that also.

By the way. The haj is a Vedic ritual. You said I believe you have done the haj. You enjoyed paying homage to some probably false black
stone remnants in 7 x circumlocution wearing a
cotton white shift whilst circulating and pointing to or touching and kissing a sacred object.
All Indian Vedic, Sabian added the moon god.
The Vedic souls of your forebears would be stirred that despite your illogical beliefs you actually practiced an ancient Indian ritual exactly the same as they once did.
So I wouldn't be putting down their beliefs too much either given what you believe and practice came from them also.
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Why they shit on Quran when they have their own Vedas, Gitas, Ramayanas, Mahabharata, Manu Smiritis and hundreds of other books?
Then Christians would be able to extend their Bibles for shitting purpose...because that is the only use for Bible in western world, Bible has ceased to be a book that had any force in any of the western country,
When they have done all that, then they dare
look at Quran and then they will realize that they have exhausted all their shit and have shitted in their pants and dhoties and what else they wear in the lower parts of their bodies.
More shirk. MUQ the haj is a Vedic ritual synthesized to an Arabic interpretation of Judaism with some pagan objects added in.
As a Muslim you aren't in any position to criticize any other belief, esp when the bible or even aspects of Vedic are the very foundation of your
own beliefs.
Allah says this is shirk as well.

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