Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

[Sheilaa]

The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:

It is possible the Quranic verses 53:45-46 state that the male and female progenies, and not merely the genders, are created from the sperm. This is a possibility totally discounted by Islamists without evidence and suggests a biased interpretation of the verses in light of modern facts. For where is the mention of the ovum? Not in these verses nor anywhere else in the Quran.

In fact, the Quran itself provides the evidence of its doctrinal omission or rejection of the role of the ovum in procreation, for verse 2:223 states that wives are merely tilth. This is saying they are like the earth receiving the zygote (i.e. seed) from the male.

Pickthall 2:223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers,(O Muhammad).

Therefore, if read in the context of verse 2:223,‘nutfatun amshaajin’ cannot contain the ovum because tilth does not contribute genetic material to the development of the seed (i.e. zygote), and must mean the semen mingled with some unspecified non-genetic material-contributing female secretion.

In light of these facts, backed by the Quranic verses, it is apparent that the Quran’s view of human conception and reproduction is that the male parent contributes the diploid seed (nutfatin itha tumna) and the female parent, as tilth, merely contributes the environment and nutrients for the growth and development of this diploid seed.

To be continued

[Sheilaa]

NZ First MP: Ban Muslims from flights
By Kurt Bayer KurtBayerAPNZ , Matthew Theunissen
6:07 PM Tuesday Feb 12, 2013

New Zealand First MP Richard Prosser has spoken out in defence of his "Wogistan" rant which has been slammed as racist by Muslim leaders and politicians.

In a column for Investigate Magazine, the Waimakariri list MP suggested young Muslims shouldn't be allowed to travel on Western airlines because 'most terrorists are Muslims".

He accepted that most Muslims are not terrorists, but said it's "equally undeniable" that "most terrorists are Muslims".

"If you are a young male, aged between say about 19 and about 35, and you're a Muslim, or you look like a Muslim, or you come from a Muslim country, then you are not welcome to travel on any of the West's airlines," he wrote.

Prime Minister John Key was "appalled" by the comments, while the New Zealand Muslim Association called them "senseless".

But in an interview with Newstalk ZB's political editor Barry Soper, Mr Prosser stood by his controversial stance.

He denied that the use of "Wogistan" was racist, citing mentions of it being a "mythical place", which could even have been "a real place".

"Look, people can read things into it if they want," he said.

"I have a particular style in my Investigate column which is, um, reasonably blunt, and I speak a lot of things that other people are talking about but won't necessarily say.

"I don't think it's anything derogatory particularly, I don't have any real time for the worst extreme elements of Islam who treat women in a poor fashion. So, I certainly think it's appropriate for me to make those comments."

Asked if he was tarring all young male Muslims with the same brush, Mr Prosser said it was a profiling policy that has made Israeli airline El Al "one of the safest airlines in the world".

NZ First Leader Winston Peters initially said there was "an element of truth' to what Mr Prosser wrote but that his MP had failed to balance his attack by acknowledging that the majority of Muslims were peaceful and law abiding.

GO NEW ZEALAND!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm ...

[convictbasher]

Farken muzlims.

[MUQ]

VORill wrote:

Predominately those converting to Islam in western countries have proven to be those who are from the lower socio economic areas of society.

They tend to feel disenfranchised or disaffected by main stream society that they feel they are no part of. The same sector tends to have a low level of education, generally speaking, that's why there is a growing concern for "home grown terrorists" that pre dates 9/11.

Ans.

You are very right!!

It is people for "low economic condition" that are getting attracted to islam.

That shows "we are right on the path of Prophets of God"!!

The initial followers of all prophets of God have been "people from lower economic and social status"

High Income and Social Greats have too much ego to bow their knees before Prophets of God and their followers.

Had it been otherwise and Islam was being accepted by High Income and Powerful people in the land, I would have felt some Alarm.

And do you know , in the eyes of God, the Wealth of this world and so called social status does not even weigh a gnat!!

Our God looks at the heart of people and not their clothes and their places of residences.

Thank you once again for confirming that we are on right track!!

[MUQ]

Tom wrote:

What a pile of steaming excrement,

1.3 million of our dear Jewish friends beat the shiite out of your 1.6 billion Muslim hoards, they took there land back, they drove all the Muslim back to the sea. And what did you lot do a Big Fat Nothing.

In decades to come we will be feeding your skinny starving black arses, like we do now, what lands you haven't destroyed amongst yourselves will be worthless.

Anyway he's some more of your Islamic Success again,

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-car-bo ...

Black and red Mince Meat flying in the air down the street is a failure to us Australians.

Success to others, we don't want the Islamic success here,

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/09/ ...

We have already seem the Hate Filled off spring of Islamic Success. A truly horrible people you are.

Ans.

Enjoy, what you can and time is there.

Nazis also were enjoying to sending those 6 million Jews to the Gas Chambers.

Isreal might have won many wars, but they have to loose the battle.

Mean while you continue with your boast.

1.3 Million Jews beat the shit out of 1.5 Billion Muslims!!

[MUQ]

SC wrote:

This really is the jester quote of the day. In comparison to how Christians suffer kidnappings and force conversion, rape, beheadings, stonings, shariah injustices, exoduses, massacres, kaffir treatment, prohibition of church building and maintenance sometimes "victory mosques" for a further slap in the face, prevention to in any way mimic a dome; even though the concept came first from Rome, social strangulation of the Christian culture and tradition etc...

And I really do not need to specifically name the above crimes and its prominence in countries stable and non-stable in the muslim world.

I mean; seriously, come down to Australia yourself and see exactly how these "poor muslims" are suffering. You are so full of it Muq.

Ans.

Will you pay for my Visa fee and Air Ticket for me to come and have 'On Site Inspection"?

And have you taken permission from our Shielaa the Great for such visit.

So many of your countrymen have "boasted" that they 'Do not fear Muslims"…but your post shows that you are Scare Shit of Muslims!!

When only so few Muslims are able to terrorize you like this, what would be your condition when Muslims are in majority in your country?

May be all of you would Scramble to Isreal for Protection!!

[Neville Thompson]

The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:

decietful, dishonest HINDUSTINKS SheilaaCACA FOOKWIT Since: Jun 12 14,293 from a RATchitt Location hidden
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The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:
Not To be continued deceitful, dishonest Sheilaa
LOG OUT.
Click to unlock any hidden RATchitt CACALatrine locations.
LOG-IN, and always post without your HINDUSTANI location 'hidden' or masking it.

Are you MUQ's press secretary ?

[Neville Thompson]

MUQ wrote:

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Will you pay for my Visa fee and Air Ticket for me to come and have 'On Site Inspection"?
And have you taken permission from our Shielaa the Great for such visit.
So many of your countrymen have "boasted" that they 'Do not fear Muslims"…but your post shows that you are Scare Shit of Muslims!!
When only so few Muslims are able to terrorize you like this, what would be your condition when Muslims are in majority in your country?
May be all of you would Scramble to Israel for Protection!!

If I am to show courtesy towards you then I expect you to show courtesy towards others like Shiela, for can you prove that what you say is more true than what they say ?
Instead of ignoring their posts I expect you to debate in a civilized tone facts proving them wrong.

[The Aggrolite Busters]

Neville Thompson wrote:

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Are you MUQ's press secretary ?

Ki GOGOT Sa, lamerde nec cone ecrire gobbledegook?

[Neville Thompson]

MUQ wrote:

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Will you pay for my Visa fee and Air Ticket for me to come and have 'On Site Inspection"?
And have you taken permission from our Shielaa the Great for such visit.
So many of your countrymen have "boasted" that they 'Do not fear Muslims"…but your post shows that you are Scare Shit of Muslims!!
When only so few Muslims are able to terrorize you like this, what would be your condition when Muslims are in majority in your country?
May be all of you would Scramble to Isreal for Protection!!

Is that why you live in Saudi Arabia to escape the Islamic suicide bombers in your own country that need not care who dies ?

[Muslim supreme]

Israels weapons are basically American tax payers money flying around the Middle East Lol ! What will happen if the American Tax payers become aware of this ? Israel is living on borrowed time . The reson Israel made it this far is because the Arab American dictators like Saudi Arabia support you guys ? We need to take out thos Saudi kings as soon as possible !

[The Aggrolite Busters]

Neville Thompson wrote:

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If I am to show courtesy towards you then I expect you to show courtesy towards others like Shiela, for can you prove that what you say is more true than what they say ?
Instead of ignoring their posts I expect you to debate in a civilized tone facts proving them wrong.

We expect you to:

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTORs.

YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), Rupert PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase" a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs SHEMALES.

NEVER RETURN

[MUQ more Taqiyya]

MUQ wrote:

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Ans.
I don't know why your record needle has stuck at MOTAZILA.
What they said and did is neither here nor there. Why should I waste my time with MOTAZILA?
No book of TUBBA was anywhere like Quran. Sayings of wise men and past prophets are present in all parts of the world.
Quran is a totally different thing. It is revelation
from God Almighty.
And if some one has any doubt, let them bring a book like Quran or 10 chapters like it or even 1 chapter like it.
So instead of wasting your time on these useless questions, you should be working to bring some thing like Quran and beat this challenge.

MUQ if I can say as a reasonable person and observer over a good period of time on this particular topic, your Taqiyya has good worse as well as your ability to understand questions asked of you.
Deobrandi's (and Salifis and other subsects, even Dalit) are meant to encompass some logic or at least sophistication in rebuttal when promoting Islamic recidivism.
Taqiyya or lying and deception to non believers is meant to be applied when 'defending islam'.
Not lying for the sake of it or cursory dismissal of a key or fundamental question.
Perhaps you have other problems or the fact that no matter what you say, there is a far more experienced and knowledgeable audience than you on matters around the apostasy of Islam.
Anyway the point again is this :
Did Islam itself declare in the 9th century that the Quran was man made, not miracle and in many matters it was incorrect.
Did Islam itself (again these were the caliphates with the vested authority to represent what is or is not Islam..)- did they declare there were many messengers before and after muhammad ?
Now we know from Islam itself and also historical evidence that this is true.
All that is being asked of you here is that do you accept this is true?
You can't apply Taqiyya to a denial of what Islam once believed as you then contradict Islam and that is perverting Islam (shirk).
You can say they were wrong, changed their mind, the ignorant and the 'miracle believers'(another sin in Islam) regained control etc.
Taqiyya can only be applied to 'defend islam' not contradict or deny Islam.
So having established by your own admission that you practice Taqiyya incorrectly, and you are also guilty of shirk (miracle worship), as well as tasweer and many other sins before Allah..

Let's try again so you can redeem youself in front of Allah.

Did the calliphate(s) of Islam in the 9th century rule that the Quran was man made, there were many mistakes, Muhammad was but one of many messengers before and after him ?

Remember no Taqiyya can be applied by you on actual Islamic history as it is taught to you, otherwise you greatly offend Allah, Muhammad (pbuh) and all of Islam by lying to other muslims.

After you say yes this actually happened, then reflect on why Taqiyya needs to exist (only in Islam btw) and whether you have sinned greatly many times by embellishing, distorting, denigrating, and deceiving unnecessarily to non believers and thus to the discredit of Islam.

The penalty for a muslim practicing bad Taqiyya, shirk (miracles as you now admit, object worship, denigration of others beliefs) and tasweer which you appear almost proud of - are amongst the worst sins of Islam.

So here's your chance to redeem yourself.

Did the above 9th century events, as stated and recorded in Islamic history actually happen ?
Yes or No.

[Neville Thompson]

The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:

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The FAGgrolite Busters wrote:
Not To be continued deceitful, dishonest Sheilaa
LOG OUT.
Click to unlock any hidden RATchitt CACALatrine locations.
LOG-IN, and always post without your HINDUSTANI TROLL location 'hidden' or masking it.

Don't be naughty .

[Tom]

MUQ wrote:

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Enjoy, what you can and time is there.
Nazis also were enjoying to sending those 6 million Jews to the Gas Chambers.
Isreal might have won many wars, but they have to loose the battle.
Mean while you continue with your boast.
1.3 Million Jews beat the shit out of 1.5 Billion Muslims!!

And they did, 3rd century people on camels and donkeys are no match for industrious hard working technical minded 20th century people.

Egypt reviewed the causes of its loss of the 1967 war. Issues that were identified included "the individualistic bureaucratic leadership"; "promotions on the basis of loyalty, not expertise, and the army's fear of telling Nasser the truth"; lack of intelligence; and better Israeli weapons, command, organization, and will to fight

Muslim country's are no match for our peaceful Jewish friends, you lot can not compete or except the truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War#Conc...

[SandCastle]

MUQ wrote:

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Will you pay for my Visa fee and Air Ticket for me to come and have 'On Site Inspection"?
And have you taken permission from our Shielaa the Great for such visit.
So many of your countrymen have "boasted" that they 'Do not fear Muslims"…but your post shows that you are Scare Shit of Muslims!!
When only so few Muslims are able to terrorize you like this, what would be your condition when Muslims are in majority in your country?
May be all of you would Scramble to Isreal for Protection!!

The jester changes the subject of his gross lies of vast muslim suffering in the west! Or do you think your lame whining will change any of the muslim issues shown around the world.

I am not willing to pay for your ticket; physical inspection of these poor muslims down under is simply more irrefutable than other sources. But of, course; cling on to the muslim victimisation. You are un-salvageable.

And what has my countrymen got to do with my opinion? You should know that our atheist female prime minister has already had a stern warning indirectly to muslims who have chosen to come to this land yet refuse to tolerate or become the way of Australian life. The French and German have said otherwise.

Bloodthirsty Hyenas with not outward perception or blatant denial. Like you; the rape opportunist and booty collector.

God is calling the shots; not you, or the false Allah purported by the masses. We shall see who is laughing at the end of the day Jester.

[Dude]

The Quran says" who wish can except and who wish can reject" that means if you decide to convert to christianity or any other religion you may do so its up to you . That shows the Holy Quran promotes democracy .

[UpYoursTurbanHea d]

It is good toilet paper the Koran. Also reading it gives you the shits so it cures any constipation.
It has many uses.

[Neville Thompson]

Dude wrote:

The Quran says" who wish can except and who wish can reject" that means if you decide to convert to christianity or any other religion you may do so its up to you . That shows the Holy Quran promotes democracy .

Where does it say that ?

[wedled]

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I doubt the fear seriously