Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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#36857 Feb 9, 2013
The FOOKWIT Catchers wrote:
I am A mentally stone worship disturbed man
Yes you are thank you for your honesty!!!!!!!!!

The earliest reference we have to a goddess worshipped as a cube-shaped stone is from Neolithic Anatolia. Alternatively,'Kubaba' may mean a hollow vessel or cave, which would still be a supreme image of the goddess. The ideograms for Kubaba in the Hittite alphabet are a lozenge or cube, a double-headed axe, a dove, a vase and a door or gate—all images of the goddess in Neolithic Europe.

Deities of other cultures known to have been associated with black stones include Aphrodite at Paphos, Cybele at Pessinus and later Rome, Astarte at Byblos and the famous Artemis/Diana of Ephesus. The latter's most ancient sculpture was, it is said, carved from a black meteorite.

The earliest form of Cybele's name may have been Kubaba or Kumbaba, which suggests Humbaba, who was the guardian of the forest in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the world's oldest recorded myth from Assyria of circa 2500 BCE of the ‘Sumerites Literature’ and as scholars reveal more of the text as the source of most of the major mythological themes of later civilizations

The origin of Kubaba may have been kube or kuba meaning 'cube'. The earliest reference we have to a goddess worshipped as a cube-shaped stone is from Neolithic Anatolia

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#36858 Feb 9, 2013
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#36859 Feb 9, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Yes you are thank you for your honesty!!!!!!!!!
The earliest reference we have to a goddess worshipped as a cube-shaped stone is from Neolithic Anatolia. Alternatively,'Kubaba' may mean a hollow vessel or cave, which would still be a supreme image of the goddess. The ideograms for Kubaba in the Hittite alphabet are a lozenge or cube, a double-headed axe, a dove, a vase and a door or gate—all images of the goddess in Neolithic Europe.
Deities of other cultures known to have been associated with black stones include Aphrodite at Paphos, Cybele at Pessinus and later Rome, Astarte at Byblos and the famous Artemis/Diana of Ephesus. The latter's most ancient sculpture was, it is said, carved from a black meteorite.
The earliest form of Cybele's name may have been Kubaba or Kumbaba, which suggests Humbaba, who was the guardian of the forest in the Epic of Gilgamesh, the world's oldest recorded myth from Assyria of circa 2500 BCE of the ‘Sumerites Literature’ and as scholars reveal more of the text as the source of most of the major mythological themes of later civilizations
The origin of Kubaba may have been kube or kuba meaning 'cube'. The earliest reference we have to a goddess worshipped as a cube-shaped stone is from Neolithic Anatolia
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It's a shame MUQ couldn't supply information like this instead of what someone wrote of their personal experience within Islam .

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#36860 Feb 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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It's a shame MUQ couldn't supply information like this instead of what someone wrote of their personal experience within Islam .
Why do you think that there has been so little critical analysis of Islam compared to any other religion. They are unable to address the issues that are put to them and all they can do is to try and suppress free speech which is critical of Islam. Look around and see what is happening in relation to free speech. Muslims call it hate speech, Islamophobic and racist speech but the reality is that it is none of the mentioned. Islam doesn't have a leg to stand on and the only way it can stop the spread of the truth is by claiming it is blasphemy. The reality is that it is it Islam that is defaming and blaspheming the true God and this has been prophesized in the bible.

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#36861 Feb 9, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Why do you think that there has been so little critical analysis of Islam compared to any other religion. They are unable to address the issues that are put to them and all they can do is to try and suppress free speech which is critical of Islam. Look around and see what is happening in relation to free speech. Muslims call it hate speech, Islamophobic and racist speech but the reality is that it is none of the mentioned. Islam doesn't have a leg to stand on and the only way it can stop the spread of the truth is by claiming it is blasphemy. The reality is that it is it Islam that is defaming and blaspheming the true God and this has been prophesized in the bible.
The history you present should be taught in all secondary schools to provide balance and maybe then Islamic Clerics will come out and debate their past that all can learn from one another.

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#36862 Feb 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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The history you present should be taught in all secondary schools to provide balance and maybe then Islamic Clerics will come out and debate their past that all can learn from one another.
I agree!!!!
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#36863 Feb 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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FOWYS lol
We are not interested, muppet:

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#36864 Feb 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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It's a shame MUQ couldn't supply information like this instead of what someone wrote of their personal experience within Islam .
We are not interested, muppet:

YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL
AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), ROMEO TINY inferior midget turds, Rupert
PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF,
PLAGIARIZER, ROBBER and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs.

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR Neville One of the Adelaideans FUCKTURD TurdBender
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Tempe, AZ

#36865 Feb 9, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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The history you present should be taught in all secondary schools to provide balance and maybe then Islamic Clerics will come out and debate their past that all can learn from one another.
We are not interested, muppet:

YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL
AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), ROMEO TINY inferior midget turds, Rupert
PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF,
PLAGIARIZER, ROBBER and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs.

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR Neville One of the Adelaideans FUCKTURD TurdBender
F*CKWIT sIndian.

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#36866 Feb 9, 2013
We are not interested, decietful, dishonest HINDUSTINKS SheilaaCACA Since: Jun 12 14,293 from a RATchitt Location hidden
#36860 27 min ago

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#36867 Feb 9, 2013
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The stone associated with Cybele's worship was, originally, probably at Pessinus but perhaps at Pergamum or on Mount Ida. What is certain is that in 204 BCE, it was taken to Rome, where Cybele became 'Mother' to the Romans. The ecstatic rites of her worship were alien to the Roman temperament, but nevertheless animated the streets of their city during the annual procession of the goddess's statue. Alongside Isis (god of the Egyptians), Cybele retained prominence in the heart of the Empire until the fifth century BCE, when the stone was then lost. Her cult prospered throughout the Empire and it is said that every town or village remained true to the worship of Cybele [8]. Various Classical writers describe the rituals, which went on her in her honor, in which a tapering black stone, the object of veneration at her temple, was used.

At Mecca, the Goddess was ‘Shaybah’ or’ Sheba’, the Old Woman, which was worshipped as a black aniconic stone like the Goddess of the Scythian Amazons. The sacred Black Stone that now enshrines in the Kaaba was her feminine symbol, marked by the sign of the yoni (vagina), and covered like the ancient Mother by a veil. No one seems to know exactly what it is supposed to represent today?

The Black Stone rests in the Haram, "Sanctuary", cognate of "harem," which used to mean a Temple of Women, in Babylon, a shrine of the Goddess Har, mother of harlots! Hereditary guardians of the Haram were the Koreshites, "children of Kore", Mohammed’s own tribe. The holy office was originally held by women, before it was taken over by male priests calling themselves ‘Beni Shayban’("Sons of the Old Woman").

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#36869 Feb 9, 2013
The FOOKWIT Catchers wrote:
More Black Stones

The home of Aphrodite was at Paphos on Cyprus. Various Classical writers describe the rituals which went on her in her honour - these seem to include the practice which is now known by the disdainful term of 'sacred prostitution'. In any event, the tapering black stone which was the object of veneration at this Temple still survives, even if it now placed inside the site museum [9].

Also in Cyprus is another highly venerated Islamic site, the third most important after Mecca and Medina, the Hala Sultan Tekke. This, too, has a black rock, said to have fallen as a meteorite as part of the tritholon over the shrine. The shrine is dedicated to a woman, the aunt and foster mother of Prophet Mohammed [10]. Could this, like Mecca, have been originally a goddess shrine? Unfortunately no other clues are forthcoming.

Another site stated to have a Black Stone was at Petra, but I have been unable to discover where this was or who was worshipped there (any clue from readers?)!

To add a little local flavour, numerous standing stones in the British Isles are reputed to have fallen from the stars. The now-lost Star Stone marked the meeting of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire; an also-vanished stone at Grimston, Leicestershire, was also said to have such an origin. Whether or not such stones were ever associated with goddess worship, we will never know.

To be continued
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#36870 Feb 9, 2013
We are not interested, decietful, dishonest HINDUSTINKS SheilaaCACA the Old Woman, Since: Jun 12 14,293 from a RATchitt Location hidden
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#36871 Feb 9, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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The stone associated with Cybele's worship was, originally, probably at Pessinus but perhaps at Pergamum or on Mount Ida. What is certain is that in 204 BCE, it was taken to Rome, where Cybele became 'Mother' to the Romans. The ecstatic rites of her worship were alien to the Roman temperament, but nevertheless animated the streets of their city during the annual procession of the goddess's statue. Alongside Isis (god of the Egyptians), Cybele retained prominence in the heart of the Empire until the fifth century BCE, when the stone was then lost. Her cult prospered throughout the Empire and it is said that every town or village remained true to the worship of Cybele [8]. Various Classical writers describe the rituals, which went on her in her honor, in which a tapering black stone, the object of veneration at her temple, was used.
At Mecca, the Goddess was ‘Shaybah’ or’ Sheba’, the Old Woman, which was worshipped as a black aniconic stone like the Goddess of the Scythian Amazons. The sacred Black Stone that now enshrines in the Kaaba was her feminine symbol, marked by the sign of the yoni (vagina), and covered like the ancient Mother by a veil. No one seems to know exactly what it is supposed to represent today?
The Black Stone rests in the Haram, "Sanctuary", cognate of "harem," which used to mean a Temple of Women, in Babylon, a shrine of the Goddess Har, mother of harlots! Hereditary guardians of the Haram were the Koreshites, "children of Kore", Mohammed’s own tribe. The holy office was originally held by women, before it was taken over by male priests calling themselves ‘Beni Shayban’("Sons of the Old Woman").
I remember Pessinus. I went to his house at Mount Ida.
Whatever you do dont ask him about his trip to Darwin or he will go on and on and on. Me and old Pessinus were in the vietnam war together, we drove around the meekong delta in his XW falcon but it wasnt one of those ones that are made to look like a GT, thats gay, it was just a standard Falcon. Pessinus held a job on a oil rig, flying choppers when he could, but the night life nearly drove him round the bend.

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#36872 Feb 9, 2013
The FOOKWIT Catchers wrote:
It would take far too long to discuss to what extent the cult of the goddess's Black Stone may have been perpetrated as Solomon's bride in the Song of Songs, who is 'black but beautiful' or to come to terms with the black images of Demeter, Artemis and Isis, who have their direct continuation in the Black Virgins of Europe—patrons of the troubadours, the Gnostics and the alchemists, as well as the present Pope. Those, who wish to follow such ideas, would do well to read ‘The myth of the goddess’[11], which, in a sober but inspirational manner, reevaluates how the feminine deity has remained with us throughout history.

Further information on these topics appears in a follow-up article by Alby Stone, Goddess of the Black Stone.
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#36873 Feb 9, 2013
Do not think of Muslim as human race, the truth is the Muslim is religion like any other religions but they all different in most ways and some with common belief. Jewish, Muslim, Christen, Buddhists and other religious are not human races, they are from the human ideas and beliefs. Humans attack other humans. Guns do not murdered people, only people kill other people and whoever they are, they are the ones pressed the button on a gun ended up murdering someone. I say the all-religions should be outside of political areas and create better law because of what I said above.

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#36874 Feb 9, 2013
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PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF,
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#36875 Feb 9, 2013
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PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF,
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#36876 Feb 10, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I never used the Term Deoband in my post if I remember correctly and I never used the term Taqaiyya either.
So if a 9th century ruler "declares" something, will it become truth for you?
And since when you are regarding any things said by Islamic Rulers and Caliphs to be absolute truth?
Or are you looking only for scraps and bits that support your own logic and disregard the bits that do not support your logic?
Any thing said by any caliphs in any century is
not binding unless it is supported by Quran and authentic sayings of our prophet.
So you take those caliph's ruling and stick in….
I hope this is enough of Y or N answer you!!
MUQ the question is not whether you agree or not with Islamic history, but did it happen.
• Did the 9th century Caliphates (mu'tazalites) declare the Quran man made?
• Did the Caliphates declare that there were messengers prior and post Muhammad ?
• Did the Mu'tazalittes declare that 'Muhammad got many things wrong and the Quran required substantial correction, including the large parts of the Quran plagiarized from Judaism but intepreted incorrectly?
• Did the Mu'tazillites also declare the Quran could not be 'eternal' or pre-existing, it instead evolved from the red sea Jews and the Yemmenites eg Tuba'h's books of rules which is identical to the original social and relgious codification later contained in quranic sura's.
The question again is not whether you agree or not or even your opinion at all. These people had access to far more information than you and were only 200 years after Muhammad so fully aware of how muhhammad and the Quran evolved.
The only question to you is this.
Did this actually happen and with records as to this happening in the 9th century?
Yes or No.
wesley

Cocoa, FL

#36877 Feb 10, 2013
this insane idiot called mohammed read the bible then twisted and warped it to suit his on perverted of the world,thus the koran was created..

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