Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46752 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#36903 Feb 11, 2013
My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part-

Chapter-Four

Islam a Universal way of life:

01. After embracing Islam I realised that one of the most important duties in Islam is to seek authentic Islamic Knowledge. Knowledge sets one free from biases, superstitious beliefs, narrow-mindedness, hasty judgments and so forth.

02. It also liberates one from the enslavement of the mind. The more books I read on Islam, the more I felt that Islam was simply natural and close to my heart, as if it was something I had been yearning for and believed in but was not informed of by anybody.

03. The more I read, the more I wanted to read and this feeling has never stopped. All praise and thanks be to Allah, The feeling that I will never know enough still lingers in my mind and so the reading continues.

04. In the process of reading I discovered that what I was taught in the Church about Islam was not true. They taught that Islam began in Saudi Arabia and was brought by Mohammad, that it is the religion of Arabs who worship Mohammad.

05. I found that Islam was not only the religion brought by Prophet Mohammad, but it was in fact the religion of all prophets. For indeed, all the prophets from Adam, the first prophet up to Mohammad the last prophet, they were all Muslims in the sense that they all submitted their wills to the Will of God. As Quran says

“The same religion has He established fro you as that which He enjoined on Noah, that which We have sent by inspiration to you- and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus that you should remain steadfast in religion and make no divisions there in (42:13)

(Abridged)

IIPH, Riyadh Saudi Arabia
www.iiph.com.sa
Jake Bradock

Robina, Australia

#36904 Feb 11, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait and time will tell..
The latest news is that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the Western Hemisphere of the world.
Do some thing about it.
You must kill at least 1 billion Muslims in the next few decades to restore the balance!!
Thats a bullshit statment quoted only by muslims to hide the fact that the only success islam has for its growth around the world is by forced conversions and threatning to kill anyone who chooses to leave islam.

The only growth in western countries is from immigrants pushing themselvs into western countries, and the only way they grow that number is by not associating themselves with the western host so as to avoid muslims converting to western religions.

Fact is , many muslims that do come to western countries actually relise the falsness of there religion and run from it.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#36905 Feb 11, 2013
Jake Bradock wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats a bullshit statment quoted only by muslims to hide the fact that the only success islam has for its growth around the world is by forced conversions and threatning to kill anyone who chooses to leave islam.
The only growth in western countries is from immigrants pushing themselvs into western countries, and the only way they grow that number is by not associating themselves with the western host so as to avoid muslims converting to western religions.
Fact is , many muslims that do come to western countries actually relise the falsness of there religion and run from it.
Who is forcibly converting Christians to become Muslim in USA, Britain, Italy, France, Germany,.....India to become Muslim?

The reality is that if you become Muslim in these country, your life becomes difficult.

Yet

and I repeat Yet

These is not a single day gone when scores of Non Muslims accept Islam in these countries.

The power of any religion is not how it spreads when in power, it is when it spreads while it is not in power and being looked down.

It is almost 12 years to the events of 9/11. How many Christian converts to Islam left Islam and went back to Christianity?

Islam and Muslims have only Gained New converts after 9/11 and lost very few!!

This is power of Islam!!

A bigot like you ill never see it, because you only see what is shown to you!!

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36906 Feb 11, 2013
Critical analysis of Islam is finally finding out the truth about this false ideology

MÜNSTER, Germany -- Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.
Theology Without Muhammad

Read a translated excerpt from "Islamic Theology Without the Historic Muhammad -- Comments on the Challenges of the Historical-Critical Method for Islamic Thinking" by Professor Kalisch.

Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.

"We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."

When Prof. Kalisch took up his theology chair four years ago, he was seen as proof that modern Western scholarship and Islamic ways can mingle -- and counter the influence of radical preachers in Germany. He was put in charge of a new program at Münster, one of Germany's oldest and most respected universities, to train teachers in state schools to teach Muslim pupils about their faith.

Muslim leaders cheered and joined an advisory board at his Center for Religious Studies. Politicians hailed the appointment as a sign of Germany's readiness to absorb some three million Muslims into mainstream society. But, says Andreas Pinkwart, a minister responsible for higher education in this north German region, "the results are disappointing."

Prof. Kalisch, who insists he's still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.

Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad's life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad's existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.
[Sven Muhammad Kalish]

Muhammad Sven Kalish

"Of course Muhammad existed," says Tilman Nagel, a scholar in Göttingen and author of a new book, "Muhammad: Life and Legend." The Prophet differed from the flawless figure of Islamic tradition, Prof. Nagel says, but "it is quite astonishing to say that thousands and thousands of pages about him were all forged" and there was no such person.

All the same, Prof. Nagel has signed a petition in support of Prof. Kalisch, who has faced blistering criticism from Muslim groups and some secular German academics. "We are in Europe," Prof. Nagel says. "Education is about thinking, not just learning by heart."

Read more at:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1226699092796...

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36907 Feb 11, 2013
THE SWORD
OF
MILITANT ISLAM

Islam and Jihad: Hand in Hand

In the name of Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate(???)

Go Out and Kill Jews, Christians, Buddhists and Hindus!

Over the last 1400 years, 270 million non-believers were murdered by Muslim jihadists.
Islam destroyed the Christian Middle East and Christian North Africa. It is estimated
that upwards of 60 million Christians were slaughtered during this conquest.
Also, half the Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus murdered.
Islamic jihad also destroyed over 10 million Buddhists.
In other words, Islam is a killing machine.

INFILTRATE, OVERWHELM, SUBJUGATE AND THEN DEVOUR
Today It's the Gun and the Qur'an (Koran)...
Tomorrow It Will Be Nukes and the Qur'an

ISLAMIC CIVILIZATION?
What an oxymoron! Since when IS barbarism called civilization?
Islam is an anti-civilization cult par excellence. It destroyed every civilization it touched
and brought misery, poverty, ignorance and war in every country that it invaded!

FACT:
90%-95% OF ALL THE CONFLICTS ON THIS PLANET TODAY
INVOLVE MUSLIMS FIGHTING NON-MUSLIMS OR EACH OTHER!
There are many trouble spots around the world, but as a general rule, it's easy to make an educated guess at one of the participants: Muslims vs. Jews in "Palestine," Muslims vs. Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs. Christians in Africa, Muslims vs. Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims vs. Russians in the Caucasus, etc...
ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

Liam

Chiswick, Australia

#36908 Feb 12, 2013
Swine eating Australians wrote:
Are the swine retards ready for round 2
Hey you deserting coward Rat Eating Muzza, I see you ran away from you Muzza homeland, to live as a Christian in a Christian land,

What dirty filthy stinking home land were you and family spawn from ?

Or are you ashamed of your culture, your history everything your filthy forebears created,

Divulge your cesspool nation, Coward !! If your a man.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36909 Feb 12, 2013
Furious debate as teachers at Islamic College of SA's West Croydon campus ordered to wear hijab or face sack

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/teachers...

Let's tell them where they can go. Stop subsidy payments to these ratbags!!!!!!!!!!

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36910 Feb 12, 2013
New party seeks to curb Muslim immigration
11 Feb 2013, 6:06 pm - Source: Shalailah Medhora, SBS

A Sri Lankan migrant has launched a political party that runs on an anti-multiculturalism platform. Rise Up Australia already boasts about 1,500 members and plans to run 65 candidates in the upcoming federal election.
RELATED

A Sri Lankan migrant has launched a political party that runs on an anti-multiculturalism platform.

Rise Up Australia already boasts about 1,500 members and plans to run 65 candidates in the upcoming federal election.

"Rise Up Australia Party, which is committed to keeping Australia for Australians, is utterly and completely opposed to multiculturalism," says Rise Up Australia's founder Daniel Nalliah.

Read more at:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1735966/Ne...

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36911 Feb 12, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_04_D...

Since their lives were separated by 700 years, everything Muhammad claims about them is both suspect and uninspired. Tabari II:53 "Another story about Abraham is that a star rose over Nimrod so bright that it blotted out the light of the sun and the moon. He became frightened and called the magicians, soothsayers, and prognosticators to ask about it. They said,'A man will arise in your domain whose destiny is to destroy you and your rule.' Nimrod lived in Babylon but he left his town and moved to another, forcing all men to go with him but leaving the women. He ordered that any male child who was born should be slain." This is a blatant, although not believable, rip-off of the star of Bethlehem that directed wise men to Yahshua and of King Herod killing the male children born that year in Bethlehem.

The Bible tells us that Abram, the future Abraham, was born in Ur, the great Chaldean city, to Terah. His journey to the Promised Land is detailed in Genesis 11. Muhammad says: "Some task in Babylon came up for which Nimrod could trust only Azar, the father of Abraham. He sent him to do the job, saying,'See that you do not have intercourse with your wife.' Azar said to him,'I am too tenacious in my religion for that.' But when he entered Babylon he visited his wife and could not control himself. He had intercourse with her and fled to a town called Ur."

Tabari II:53 "When Abraham's mother found that she was in labor she went out to a cave near her house and bore Abraham. She shut the cave up on him and returned home. Later when she went to see how he had done, she found him alive, sucking his thumb. Allah placed Abraham's sustenance in it." Muhammad was abandoned by his mother at birth, so he invented this story to mimic his own childhood.

To be continued
VORill

Australia

#36912 Feb 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is forcibly converting Christians to become Muslim in USA, Britain, Italy, France, Germany,.....India to become Muslim?
The reality is that if you become Muslim in these country, your life becomes difficult.
Yet
and I repeat Yet
These is not a single day gone when scores of Non Muslims accept Islam in these countries.
The power of any religion is not how it spreads when in power, it is when it spreads while it is not in power and being looked down.
It is almost 12 years to the events of 9/11. How many Christian converts to Islam left Islam and went back to Christianity?
Islam and Muslims have only Gained New converts after 9/11 and lost very few!!
This is power of Islam!!
A bigot like you ill never see it, because you only see what is shown to you!!
Predominately those converting to Islam in western countries have proven to be those who are from the lower socio economic areas of society. They tend to feel disenfranchised or diseffected by main stream society that they feel they are no part of. The same sector tends to have a low level of education, generally speaking, that's why there is a growing concern for "home grown terrorists" that pre dates 9/11.
VORill

Australia

#36913 Feb 12, 2013
*addit: I say predominately* because their are exceptions to that, but case studies and profiling has exposed this.
Western countries probably spend more time on home grown terrorists then those overseas, for very good reason.
Tom

Australia

#36914 Feb 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait and time will tell..
The latest news is that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the Western Hemisphere of the world.
Do some thing about it.
You must kill at least 1 billion Muslims in the next few decades to restore the balance!!
What a pile of steaming excrement,

1.3 million of our dear Jewish friends beat the shiite out of your 1.6 billion Muslim hoards, they took there land back, they drove all the Muslim back to the sea. And what did you lot do a Big Fat Nothing.

In decades to come we will be feeding your skinny starving black arses, like we do now, what lands you haven't destroyed amongst yourselves will be worthless.

Anyway he's some more of your Islamic Success again,

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-car-bo...

Black and red Mince Meat flying in the air down the street is a failure to us Australians.

Success to others, we don't want the Islamic success here,

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/09/...

We have already seem the Hate Filled off spring of Islamic Success. A truly horrible people you are.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36915 Feb 12, 2013
Geert Wilders Highlights Loss of Freedom in Australia
Monday, February 11, 2013 - Geert Wilders, PVV and Q Society of Australia

Melbourne, 9th February 2013

Geert Wilders touches down in Australia next weekend and the thought of the popular Dutch parliamentarian challenging Australian views on Islam has our politicians, media barons and bankers already running for cover.

The image of a small number of enraged Muslims and Marxist rent-a-crowds protesting in our streets has spooked many in corporate Australia before a single ‘Geert Go Home’ placard is held up.

The latest in this sorry saga is a Sydney radio station. The event organiser had signed a contract and paid to broadcast short radio ads over two weeks advertising the Geert Wilders tour. Scheduled to commence on 7th February – they never went to air. No explanation given. Eight hundred and thirty State and Federal politicians were invited to attend an evening event with a fellow MP and leader of a democratic European party, which represents one Million Dutch voters. Four (4) Australian MPs have accepted.

With this in mind, who has the courage to discuss Islam? In 2013 and with the Islamic population at just above 2 per cent, Q Society believes it imperative to address this question. Geert Wilders comes from the same Kingdom of the Netherlands sending their sons and daughters to fight for Freedom and Western values beside our own in places like Afghanistan and Iraq. Are our children prepared to die for values we have already buried at home?

Read more at:

http://www.newsmaker.com.au/news/23788
SandCastle

Kellyville, Australia

#36916 Feb 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The reality is that if you become Muslim in these country, your life becomes difficult.
This really is the jester quote of the day. In comparison to how Christians suffer kidnappings and force conversion, rape, beheadings, stonings, shariah injustices, exoduses, massacres, kaffir treatment, prohibition of church building and maintenance sometimes "victory mosques" for a further slap in the face, prevention to in any way mimic a dome; even though the concept came first from Rome, social strangulation of the Christian culture and tradition etc...

And I really do not need to specifically name the above crimes and its prominence in countries stable and non-stable in the muslim world.

I mean; seriously, come down to Australia yourself and see exactly how these "poor muslims" are suffering. You are so full of it Muq.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36917 Feb 12, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Critical analysis of Islam is finally finding out the truth about this false ideology
MÜNSTER, Germany -- Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.
So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.
Theology Without Muhammad
Read a translated excerpt from "Islamic Theology Without the Historic Muhammad -- Comments on the Challenges of the Historical-Critical Method for Islamic Thinking" by Professor Kalisch.
Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.
"We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."
When Prof. Kalisch took up his theology chair four years ago, he was seen as proof that modern Western scholarship and Islamic ways can mingle -- and counter the influence of radical preachers in Germany. He was put in charge of a new program at Münster, one of Germany's oldest and most respected universities, to train teachers in state schools to teach Muslim pupils about their faith.
Muslim leaders cheered and joined an advisory board at his Center for Religious Studies. Politicians hailed the appointment as a sign of Germany's readiness to absorb some three million Muslims into mainstream society. But, says Andreas Pinkwart, a minister responsible for higher education in this north German region, "the results are disappointing."
Prof. Kalisch, who insists he's still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.
Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad's life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad's existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.
[Sven Muhammad Kalish]
Muhammad Sven Kalish
"Of course Muhammad existed," says Tilman Nagel, a scholar in Göttingen and author of a new book, "Muhammad: Life and Legend." The Prophet differed from the flawless figure of Islamic tradition, Prof. Nagel says, but "it is quite astonishing to say that thousands and thousands of pages about him were all forged" and there was no such person.
All the same, Prof. Nagel has signed a petition in support of Prof. Kalisch, who has faced blistering criticism from Muslim groups and some secular German academics. "We are in Europe," Prof. Nagel says. "Education is about thinking, not just learning by heart."
Read more at:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1226699092796...
Prof Nagel would have to deny Prof Kalish seeing he has to sell his book.
quzluz

Monessen, PA

#36918 Feb 12, 2013
youtube.com/watch... …… Get Over it,must be the dress code?
Success or Failure

Australia

#36919 Feb 12, 2013
Jake Bradock

Robina, Australia

#36920 Feb 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is forcibly converting Christians to become Muslim in USA, Britain, Italy, France, Germany,.....India to become Muslim?
The reality is that if you become Muslim in these country, your life becomes difficult.
Yet
and I repeat Yet
These is not a single day gone when scores of Non Muslims accept Islam in these countries.
The power of any religion is not how it spreads when in power, it is when it spreads while it is not in power and being looked down.
It is almost 12 years to the events of 9/11. How many Christian converts to Islam left Islam and went back to Christianity?
Islam and Muslims have only Gained New converts after 9/11 and lost very few!!
This is power of Islam!!
A bigot like you ill never see it, because you only see what is shown to you!!
You continue to speak lies to push your agenda, western converts to islam in western countries is tiny, it is proven in most government audits that there are more muslims leaving islam in western countries than new converts.

Your numbers increase in western countries simply because of islamic immagration into western countries and a high birth rate .

NOT, because people freely join your religion, of the few convets you do get to islam most are dregs of sociaty who only join to justify the permisable crimes and rebelion that islam allows of its followers.
Jake Bradock

Robina, Australia

#36921 Feb 12, 2013
islams success in Norway, did islam bring love and enlightenment to the people of Norway? or did it only bring higher crome rate ?

Video) NRK TV investigates violent behavior: Native Norweigan at 13 convicts per 1,000 while Muslim immigrant convicts at 40 per 1,000

February 11, 2013 · by admin · in Muslims WorldWide

Brainwashed: Violence.

Norwegian TV investigates whether violence is more prominent in some people than others. Psychologists, researchers and authors investigate whether violence and revenge is an inborn quality, or an ideal that we learn from childhood, religion, habit. About 90% of all acts of violence in Norway, the show concludes, are committed by men. And while native Norweigan’s have convictions at a rate of 13 of 1,000 violent crimes Muslim immigrants in Norway are convicted at 40 per 1,000 violent crimes – almost 400% higher than the natives.
Jake Bradock

Robina, Australia

#36922 Feb 12, 2013
More of MUQ`s islamic success in the prison systems of France.
Did islam enrich the French people ? or has it simply embraced the criminal element and prisions of France.

Why hasent the prison population increaced in Chrisitinaity ? the devils religion enjoying the devils in prision.

France: 54% of French people believe “too much liberty” has been given to Muslims in their country

February 11, 2013 · by admin · in Muslims WorldWide

Muslim problems in France never end. Monthly riots, weekly arsons, daily rapes and assaults. The ideology of Mohammed is seen on a daily basis. Women cannot walk in peace in French cities anymore from muslim stalking. The Muslim crime wave, like elsewhere, is massive in comparison to their total percentage. Deja vu. It’s the same wherever you go in Europe where Muslims have been allowed.

A recent poll showed that 32% of French people share the ideas of the “far-right” National Front party. 54% of French people felt the French government had been allowed to give too much freedom to Muslims to force Islam on their society. Although Muslim problems have been festering and growing in the country ever since Charles de Galles invited a free flow of Muslim immigrants into the country with a Euro-Arab collaboration treaty in 1973. The current day attitude is ignored to the actual problems and are instead largely been blamed on the the influence of Marine Le Pen, who succeeded her father as leader two years ago and revamped the image of her party. But that doesn’t mean that traditionally Socialist France is ready to vote for her.

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