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#36785 Feb 7, 2013
Once upon a time in the middle east. There was a arab and he raped and murdered everything he sees...

The end.
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#36788 Feb 7, 2013
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Are you an unemployed Bender spending your waiting time in an toilet internet cafe talking to us everyday ?
Elkabab

Australia

#36790 Feb 7, 2013
Moon god doesnt care 4u wrote:
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Been away. Clearly that rattled you and createe serious doubt about the apostasy you preach.
I know more about Islam and it's confection than you ever will. You argument is shallow and evident in its flaw. As you subliminally admit:
"That is why Islam is today what it was 1400 years back".

Exactly. Re read the post and explain why Islam given the chance to evolve and align itself to
human and social needs, still remains trapped in a 7th century Pre feudal Arabic belief system that can not incorporate logic or love.

Your idols are as distant & uncaring and without humanity as the moon.

An Allah that does not connect with humanity.
So you worship the man image of a false prophet and pray to objects.

Unreformed and unredeemable, any Muslim that knew better but conciously choses to continue to worship false gods and false prophets commits a
sin.
You know this, it is why Islam is neurotic and aggressive rather than relaxed and confident
of it's purity and logic like true religions.
You got smashed here MUQ.
This person asked you a clear simple question before that so MUQ if you can stick to the topic and answer it.
Was it true for that for 30 years in the 9th century that the figureheads and ruling authorities of Islam decreed that the Quran was made made and needed major correction.
And also they stated that Muhammad was just one of a number of 'messengers', not a prophet at all.
Just a Yes or No will do.

Did Islam
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36792 Feb 7, 2013
Another wonderfull preacher from islam in the home os islam...saudi arabia.

No thanks MUQ, we might stick with our own religion thanks.

A popular Saudi Arabian television preacher was found guilty of murdering his own 5-year-old daughter because he doubted her virginity, as reported by The Daily Mail (of London, England) on Feb. 4, 2013.

Although found guilty of murder, Sheikh Fayhan al-Ghamdi was released after being fined $50,000 (£31,000) as "blood money" under Islamic Sharia'a Law for the death of his child.

Ghamdi had been incarcerated since last November and the presiding judge ruled the handful of months was sufficient time behind bars.

Little Lama al-Ghamdi died this past October after suffering multiple and horrendous injuries at the hands of her father.

In line with Sharia'a Law, a father cannot be executed for the slaying of either his wife or any of his children.

The $50,000 blood money presented to the girl's mother is half the amount if the murdered child were a boy.

According to press reports, Lama suffered the following injuries:
•A broken back.
•Raped multiple times.
•A crushed skull.
•Numerous burns throughout her body.
•A broken left arm.
•Multiple broken ribs.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36793 Feb 7, 2013
Another reason why muslims claim islam as the worlds fastest growing religion, anyone can threaten a 13 yr old girl but alas......only islam would do it.

On December 23, 2012, 13-year-old Agape Essam Girgis from the village of Nahda, el-Ameriya, near Alexandria, went to school as usual. Failing to return home, the family knew that she went out of school accompanied by the Muslim social worker Heba and two teachers, one of the them a Salafist. She stayed missing for 9 days during which the family and sympathizers organized a sit-in in front of the renowned Alexandria Library. The Coptic Church in Alexandria also organized a conference on December 30 on the abduction of Coptic girls, with focus on Agape, which was attended by journalists and the public.

On December 31 state security contacted Bishop Pachomios and told him that they have the kidnapped girl. She was handed over to her family and the church priest where she stayed with his family for some time due to the terrible ordeal she experienced during her abduction.

Bishop Pachomios said in an aired interview with Al Balad TV that what happened to Agape is "heart-breaking." He said that she went in a taxi with her school's social worker Heba and two men, and that she was drugged and awakened to find herself in a secluded place with an elderly woman. He said that after she returned home he spoke to her and she said that the Salafists tried to convert her to Islam.

Activist Ramy Attia Zakaria, of the April 6 Liberal Movement in Alexandria, interviewed Agape upon her return and said it is now confirmed that her Muslim social worker Heba was behind the abduction. "Agape left school with her and two teachers. The girl was drugged in the car to wake up in a secluded house with two sheikhs and an elderly woman," Ramy said. He added that Agape stayed there for about eight days until three sheikhs came and spoke with one of the sheikhs she was staying with, telling him that Agape has to returned to her family as they are making demonstrations for her return. Agape said that during her stay with the Salafis sheikhs they tried to make her convert to Islam by saying the "Islamic Two Faith Confessions" but she refused. They forced her to wear the full veil and took photos of her in this dress. Agape said that she was beaten two or three times when she refused to convert to Islam.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36794 Feb 7, 2013
Is this allah`s reward for his followers, no jobs, dirty sociaty, no pride ?
The christian god rewards his people with plenty of jobs, beautifull sociaties and peace and harmony.

any wonder muslims run to christian lands.

Youth unemployment in the Arab region is the highest in the world, according to a report by the U.N. International Labour Organization (ILO) released on Tuesday.

The investigative body stated that the Arab uprisings have exposed skewed development policies, social justice deficits and over twenty years of poorly managed economic liberalization.

“As a region, youth unemployment is the highest globally at 23.2 percent, compared to a world average of 13.9 percent, and varies significantly within sub-regions,” said the report named “Rethinking Economic Growth: Towards Productive and Inclusive Arab Societies.”

The report does have some positive assessments of the situation in the Middle East. The Arab region has achieved near universal primary education enrolment since the 1970’s.

Furthermore the youth literacy rate is now 92 percent in North Africa and 99 per cent in the Middle East and the Gulf Cooperation Council, reported the Saudi Press Agency.

Countries in the region were able to tackle debt and inflation during the 1990’s and 2000’s, they also managed to spur economic growth and create jobs.

However, growth lagged behind global standards and the newly created jobs were focused in the arena of low productivity sectors. Governments paid scant attention to the social consequences of their economic policies.

Meanwhile, according to the report, the private sector has remained among the least competitive globally due to low rates of investment as well as a poor regulatory environment. There is also the noted issue of widespread nepotism and corruption.

Mohammad Pournik, Poverty Practice Leader at the United Nations Development Fund’s (UNDP) regional centre in Cairo, noted that one of the demands of Arab youth was attaining jobs without the need for intermediaries or “Wasta.”

“The real issue is the need for jobs with social dignity rather than jobs that come at the expense of dignity,” said Pournik.

According to the report, economic growth in the next decade is dependent on good governance – which must improve to attract higher rates of investment and enable structural and institutional reforms.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36795 Feb 7, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Are you an unemployed engineer spending your waiting time in an internet cafe talking to us everyday ?
You should ask this question to our Shielaa the Great. What type of Nurse is allowed so much free time on her duties?

I spend much less time on internet than most people. Half hour in the morning to get all my mails and half an hour in the evening to post all my replies (That is why you see them in bunches)
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36796 Feb 7, 2013
MG wrote:
01. Been away. Clearly that rattled you and create serious doubt about the apostasy you preach.

02. I know more about Islam and it's confection than you ever will. You argument is shallow and evident in its flaw. As you subliminally admit:


03. Exactly. Re read the post and explain why Islam given the chance to evolve and align itself to human and social needs,

04. Your idols are as distant & uncaring and without humanity as the moon. An Allah that does not connect with humanity. So you worship the man image of a false prophet and pray to objects.

05. Unreformed and unredeemable, any Muslim that knew better but consciously chooses to continue to worship false gods and false prophets commits a
sin. You know this,
Ans.

01 and 02. As Quran says “What is left after truth but the falsehood”? The same I can say to sum up my response to your post. When some thing is “perfected” the only way for its ‘Evolution” and “Improvement” is to slide it lower and lower.

That is what the situation between Islam and these “man made religions” like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism etc.(by the way, all these names are given by the followers and none by their Prophets or originators). All these religions are imperfect and unable to keep pace with time.

So every now and often they need to be “modified and align with the ongoing ruling philosophy of the world”. Otherwise people will throw them out.(If you want to see the example, look at Christians “trying to prove from the Bible” that is not against Sodomy and Lesbians!!)

02. In case of Islam, it has sufficient flexibility to take care of changing needs of human society. But as regards fundamentals, they are fixed and there is no need to change them. So it remains “fixed and flexible” at the same time. If there was any need to change the Fundamentals, then there would have been need for a New Prophet.

To give you some examples:

a. Idol Worship is an abomination now as it was 1400 years ago.

b. Imbibing Alcohol and Narcotic is as bad now as it was 1400 years back. No Medical research has proven that Alcohol and Narcotics became “good” for human race in these modern times.

c. Gambling, Usury, Interest are as bad for human society as it was 1400 years back. Just because they are known by different names today, would make them beneficial to human society.

d. Adultery, fornication, illegal sex, Sodomy, Lesbianism , Pornography and all types of sexual immorality and perversion are as bad today as they were 1400 years back. Just because we are living in 21st Century would make them beneficial to the human society.

e. Crimes like Theft, Robbery, Rape, Murder,…still need strong punishment today as they were 1400 years back.

The Modern “human” methods of “soft punishments and reformation” have not cured the disease and it is always on the rise. So the “Only” solution to curb these crimes are to use Islamic System. And Islam does not only gives deterrent punishment, it makes a society in which there are less chances of committing these crimes.

05. There are no idols in Islam and I do not know what are you talking about.

Moon is not worshipped in Islam in any way and Quran says “Do not prostrate before Sun or Moon, but before Allah who created them”

06. Seeing the examples of your “evolved” religion and what mockery it has made of your society, we thank Allah that we are on the true path.

Our fundamentals are same and we can say that we follow the paths of Prophet.

Which Prophet’s path your “Evolved religions” are following?
SandCastle

Narellan, Australia

#36797 Feb 7, 2013
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01 and 02. As Quran says “What is left after truth but the falsehood”? The same I can say to sum up my response to your post. When some thing is “perfected” the only way for its ‘Evolution” and “Improvement” is to slide it lower and lower.
That is what the situation between Islam and these “man made religions” like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism etc.(by the way, all these names are given by the followers and none by their Prophets or originators). All these religions are imperfect and unable to keep pace with time.
So every now and often they need to be “modified and align with the ongoing ruling philosophy of the world”. Otherwise people will throw them out.(If you want to see the example, look at Christians “trying to prove from the Bible” that is not against Sodomy and Lesbians!!)
02. In case of Islam, it has sufficient flexibility to take care of changing needs of human society. But as regards fundamentals, they are fixed and there is no need to change them. So it remains “fixed and flexible” at the same time. If there was any need to change the Fundamentals, then there would have been need for a New Prophet.
To give you some examples:
a. Idol Worship is an abomination now as it was 1400 years ago.
b. Imbibing Alcohol and Narcotic is as bad now as it was 1400 years back. No Medical research has proven that Alcohol and Narcotics became “good” for human race in these modern times.
c. Gambling, Usury, Interest are as bad for human society as it was 1400 years back. Just because they are known by different names today, would make them beneficial to human society.
d. Adultery, fornication, illegal sex, Sodomy, Lesbianism , Pornography and all types of sexual immorality and perversion are as bad today as they were 1400 years back. Just because we are living in 21st Century would make them beneficial to the human society.
e. Crimes like Theft, Robbery, Rape, Murder,…still need strong punishment today as they were 1400 years back.
The Modern “human” methods of “soft punishments and reformation” have not cured the disease and it is always on the rise. So the “Only” solution to curb these crimes are to use Islamic System. And Islam does not only gives deterrent punishment, it makes a society in which there are less chances of committing these crimes.
05. There are no idols in Islam and I do not know what are you talking about.
Moon is not worshipped in Islam in any way and Quran says “Do not prostrate before Sun or Moon, but before Allah who created them”
06. Seeing the examples of your “evolved” religion and what mockery it has made of your society, we thank Allah that we are on the true path.
Our fundamentals are same and we can say that we follow the paths of Prophet.
Which Prophet’s path your “Evolved religions” are following?
Having a hogwash of do's and don't and forcing it upon the "mischief makers" and the drones of islam?

Next time I will keep that in mind when I look for a novel. Must have action, drama, comedy, thriller, family, children story telling in it. All of course will not blend perfectly with the story but alas it has everything...

No wonder a certain islamic scholar had a hadith on his head when he claimed that islam can excuse anything. If you are a paedophile, that's fine; there is a passage to support your gross acts. If you are a murderer, also fine; just contextually justify your bloodlust. Cannot seem to stay true to your wife, also fine; just find the appropriate passage. Give yourself a pat on the back because you can only have four. Feeling insecure and need to subjugate another religious minority or even majority; also fine.

YES WE ARE AFRAID OF ISLAM! WHAT SANE MAN DOES NOT RUN AWAY FROM A PACK OF HYENAS!

But off course, I am able to decipher from this the perfection narration of this.

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#36799 Feb 7, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Yes Islam is a falsehood and a man made ideology that has denied and blasphemed the one true God since its inception. Yahweh was around eternally long before Muhammad was ever born. Muhammad was born into a poytheistic world and allah was just one of 360 gods that arabs just happened to worship at the time of his birth. Muhammad just happened upon the name allah, just like pulling a rabbit out of a hat!!!

It should be remembered that Christ is not a last name, with Jesus as the first name, as many seem to think and what MUG seems to imply. Christos means the "anointed one" which was what The Hebrew word mashiach, transliterated "Messiah" is . An adjective made from a verb, and could be translated roughly "anointed one." The New Testament christos, made from the verb meaning "anoint," has an equivalent meaning. Thus Messiah and Christ represent the same concept. So the reality is that Christianity is the word that is used for the followers of the Messiah and they are not called after his name but what he was.

God gave people free choice in relation to drinking and the first miracle that Jesus performed was that of turning water into wine at a wedding feast. John 1:2-11. He did not force people to do anything unlike Islam which denies free choice and dictates what humankind can and can't do

If Islam is so great then why do middle eastern countries have the hightest rate of internet pornography in the world. Why are Iranians being hung daily for sodomy and why does the middle east also have the hightest rate of animal rape in the world?????????

In relation to idol worship,each local tribe of Arab pagans walked 7 times around their own kaba that housed their own black stone. Why do Muslims still continue this practice today and why do they kiss the black stone? Pagan arabs used to run between two idols , Isaf and Na'ila. Now Muslims do the same thing but redefine the meaning to be representative of Hagar running between hills, looking for water.

Adultery, fornication, illegal sex, Sodomy, Lesbianism , Pornography and all types of sexual immorality and perversion are as bad today as they were 1400 years back and Muhammad was the prime example and teacher of them all including stealing, pedophillia,murder, rape, subjugation and the inequality of women in the world. Yes Islam has not changed and Jesus will return destroy it and its followers

We are following the one true God and you are following a false god who blasphemes the true one.
Among many, many prophecies shown in the bible are some interesting one which refer to the change in law that will occur, referring to sharia law along with a change in calender times. The Islamic calendar, Muslim calendar or Hijri calendar (AH) is a lunar calendar consisting of 12 months in a year of 354 or 355 days. Being a purely lunar calendar, it is not synchronized with the seasons. With an annual drift of 10 or 11 days, the seasonal relation repeats about every 33 Islamic years (every 32 solar years).

Fortunately true Christians know what the final outcome will be and unfortunately for Muslims they will be standing on the wrong side of the fence

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#36800 Feb 7, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

As we move through this collection of "inspired" Hadith, we are given another glimpse behind the veil of Islam. "'We are only growing farther from heaven,' Nimrod said.'Descend!'" Now you know which direction to look to find Allah. Tabari II:109 "The unbelievers were Nimrod and Nebuchadnezzar, while the believers were Solomon bin David and Alexander." And I'll bet you didn't know that the resolutely pagan Alexander the Great was a monotheistic Muslim or that the devoutly Jewish King Solomon was Islamic.

"In the same way, Nebuchadnezzar was warlord of the lands extending from Ahwaz to the land of the Byzantines lying west of the Tigris, before Luhrasb. He was bruised by fighting the Turks." Eighth grade history and a good timeline would do these boys a world of good.

But unfortunately, they were up to no good. Not even twenty percent of this has been believable. We have been regaled with a steady stream of impossibilities, contradictions, and fairytales. This has got to be the most-feeble attempt at religion ever postulated by man.

A crime has been committed. The evidence commands a verdict of guilty. There is a zero probability that these words were inspired by God. That means Muhammad lied: he was not a prophet, and Allah was not God. But that's good news, not bad. It frees us to explore the more important questions. We can now focus on how the scam was compiled, and more importantly, why. Once we understand how and why we will know what can be done to stop Islam before it kills more of them - and us.

To be continued

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#36801 Feb 7, 2013
See and hear the most outspoken parliamentarian on the critical issues of Freedom, Islam and our Western society. The Hon Geert Wilders MP is a member of the Dutch Lower House since 1998 and leader of the Party for Freedom. Mr Wilders' party represents one million Dutch voters and their concerns for the future of their nation, their neighbourhoods and their families.

The time has come to start the discussion about Freedom, Islam and the West in Australia. The Australian experiment of multiculturalism is failing in relation to Islam, just as it has failed everywhere else. Australians are being misled to believe Islam is 'just another religion'- when it is in fact much more. Come to see and hear Geert Wilders for yourself in Melbourne on 19 February, in Perth on 20 February and in Sydney on 22 February. Join us for an evening with an exceptional politician, author and very brave man. Doors open at 6pm for a 7pm start at function centres within easy reach of the CBD. The venue details will be send to registered patrons two days before the event.

Together with Mr Wilders, we are honoured that the author and scholar Sam Solomon has accepted our invitation to Australia. Sam Solomon, a convert from Islam to Christianity, is a world-renowned Islamic scholar who lectures widely on social and religious matters. Sam Solomon continues to advise lawmakers in Europe and America and has challenged the Islamic community with his original 'Charter for Muslim Understanding', first issued in the European Parliament in 2006.

We are also thrilled to welcome Mr Bjorn Larsen in Australia. Bjorn is a board member of the International Free Press Society and Director of the Dispatch International newspaper.

Read more at:

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#36802 Feb 7, 2013
This is how sharia law treats its workers. Shame shame shame. The evil of these ratbags can clearly be seen here. An outing in Saudi Arabia to check out the local hangings!!!!!!!!!!

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/02/0...

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#36803 Feb 7, 2013
‘Nurse said leave it to Allah as girl went blue’

LET'S HOPE YOU NEVER GET A MUSLIM NURSE!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Blunden

06 February 2013

A hospital is investigating a father’s claims that when his daughter turned blue a nurse told him to “leave control to Allah”.

Sanam Murad, two, was being treated for respiratory problems at Queen’s Hospital in Romford when her father said her condition so deteriorated that he threatened to call the police.

Murad Ali, 39, and his wife, Tamseel Fatimah, 38, both trained as doctors, but he said their pleas for more intensive treatment were dismissed for up to 12 hours. Sanam went by ambulance to the paediatric emergency department on 17 December.

Later, she was admitted to a daycare ward and given an inhaler every two hours, before being moved to the children’s ward where, Mr Ali said, she “increasingly struggled to breathe”. But he claimed when they alerted staff they were told the hospital was “short of doctors”.

Mr Ali, from Barking, said:“I saw my daughter turning blue with froth coming from her the mouth… I said if nothing is done I will call the police. At this point, one of the nurses on duty told me to be a good Muslim and leave control to Allah.”

Shortly after, doctors inserted tubes into Sanam’s lungs to aid her breathing and she was moved to intensive care at Great Ormond Street Hospital.

Averil Dongworth, chief executive of Barking, Havering and Redbridge University Hospitals, said the family’s concerns were being investigated “as a matter of urgency”.

http://www.islamist-watch.org/12307/nurse-sai...
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#36805 Feb 7, 2013
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#36806 Feb 7, 2013
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Shame shame shame, we don't have muslim muslim buddies!!!!!!!!!!

Just interested in how your scam was compiled, and more importantly, why you refuse to:

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#36807 Feb 7, 2013
Liar wrote:
01.MUQ we know all this - Islam teaches Muslims that Jesus was fake, lied, deceived his followers, was a useless prophet so Muhammad had to be the next and final and last and best one from god to fix it all up. Everything Jesus said was a lie or subject to doubt. Sura 4 156/158 says it all

02. Muhammad here repeats and then embellishes the Jewish line... Because he was a Jewish missionary until the jews declared him heretic.

03. Then he made up his own heretical apostasy almost entirely based on Judaism with Arab paganism synthesized into it based on a whole set of lies so he could protect his inherited camel fleet and steal the Jews caravan trade..

04. Capt Idigo contribution to religion and peace for humanity can be found in such titles as my journey or 40 poisonous haddeth or his best effort 40 good haadeth.(a hadeeth being a bit like a muslim masters paper but for rote trained and largely ignorant clerical people who wish to invent more rules).
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01. Islam NEVER tells that Jesus was a Liar. In Islam Jesus is a righteous Prophet and one of the five Mightiest Messengers that Include Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Prophet Mohammad (May Allah's Peace and Mercy be to all of His prophets).

What Muslims deny is that Jesus said the he was God or was one with God in a Trinity or God in human forms. These are statements which Christians (especially St. Paul) makes about Jesus and not Jesus himself.

Then Muslims deny that Jesus died on the cross. This again is what Christians say about Jesus. There is not a single eyewitness account of either his death or his resurrection.

02. Since when our Prophet was a Jewish missionary? How come you people invent such stories. Some one says he was a Christian to start with and now you say he was a Jewish Missionary.

03. From the First day of his mission till the day he died, he professed only "One" faith "LA ILAH ILL AL ALLAH, MOHAMMAD RASOOL AL ALLAH". i.e. there is ne deity to worship except Allah and Mohammad is His Messenger.

He did not change or diluted his message, irrespective of whatever situation he faced.

04. If you have any argument against Capt. Obdango, then please present it logically.

Just making tangent attacks against him and Islam would not lead you any where.

And you do not know what is Hadith for sure. Hadith is words or actions of prophet (PBUH)

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