Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46763 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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#36810 Feb 8, 2013
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#36811 Feb 8, 2013
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Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims


Islam's Sacred Stone of Mecca...

by Lennard James

26 May, 2009

"A religion is a unified system of beliefs and practices relative to sacred things, that is to say, things set apart and forbidden—beliefs and practices, which unite into one single moral community called a Church, all those who adhere to them".-- Emile Durkheim

The Black Stone is a Muslim object of reverence, which according to Islamic traditions dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. Many consider it to be a Tektite. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient Sacred Stone towards which Muslims pray in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. It is covered with an elaborately gold-threaded embroidered Quranic verses on a black-draped cloth. As any non-Muslim in the temple would be slain on sight, and photography is generally prohibited, this stone is shrouded in mystery? However, if you do succeed in tracking down the three accounts of the pilgrimage of Hajj to Mecca you might be considered a lucky one!

What these views reveal, is a polished black stone of which less than two feet is visible… This stone is set in large solid silver mountings. The whole resembles, quite deliberately, for reasons which will emerge,‘the vulva of the goddess’! There is severe damage to the stone, as it was taken away by the sacrilegious Qarmatians in 930 CE and broken into a number of pieces before returning the pieces for a great price. The Stone pieces are held together by a silver frame, which is fastened by silver nails to the Stone. The Stone is roughly 30 cm (12 in.) in diameter, and 1.5 meters (5 ft.) above the ground. When pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj, many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone,‘emulating the kiss that it received from Prophet Muhammad.’ If they cannot reach it, then they are to point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba.

The Black Stone of Kaaba in Mecca is called Al-hajar Al-aswad in Arabic. The word Kaaba (also Ka'ba, or Ka'bah) means ‘The Cube’. That Muslims now refer to it as the ‘Hand of Allah’, which does not diminish the urge for all those, who complete the pilgrimage to Mecca to touch or kiss this sacred Islamic object!:-)

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#36812 Feb 8, 2013
The Black Stone's Origin

'A principal sacred object in Pagan Arabian religion was the stone... Such stones were thought to be the residence of a god; hence the term applied to them by the Byzantine Christian writers of the fifth and sixth centuries:'baetyl', from bet'el,'the house of god'.'

'In north Arabian temples the image of the deity sometimes stood in the open air or it could be sheltered in a qubbah, a vaulted niche... Not to be confused with the qubbah is the word for ka'bah, for a cube-shaped walled structure which... served as a shelter for the sacred stones.'

Camphausen, in his article , reveals that the misogynic Muslim religion has its origins in the worship of goddess. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al'Lat, and it was her shrine, which has since continued with little change, as the Kaaba. The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Koreishe (Quraysh), who not only worshipped the goddess Q're, but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622, Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result. There are also various opinions as to what the Black Stone actually is… The Muslims say that the Stone was found by Abraham (Ibrahim) and his son Ishmael (Ismail) when they were searching for stones with which to build the Kaaba (House of God). They recognized its worth and made it one of the building's cornerstones.

The Kaaba at Mecca describes the shape of the black stone structure on a marble base, which stands in the centre court of the Great Mosque, Masjidul Haram, at the centre of Mecca. It stands about 50 feet high by about 35 feet wide. Set into the eastern corner is the sacred stone. This Kaaba is a cubed shaped temple (according to Islam) rebuilt by Abraham and his son Ishmael. Reverently draped in black cloth throughout the year, it beckons to every Muslim of the world to come to its sacred ground and perform the ritual of Hajj.

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The Fixers

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#36813 Feb 8, 2013
Sheilaa Since: Jun 12 14,283
#36811 2 min ago

dishonest HINDUSTINKS Sheilaa wrote:

Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Islam's Sacred Stone of Mecca...

by Lennard James

26 May, 2009
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#36814 Feb 8, 2013
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The Kaaba is the canonical center of the Islamic world; every pious act, particularly prayer, is directed towards it. Once a year it plays host to the greatest convention of Muslim believers, and stands ready to sanctify the Umrah travelers through rest of the year.

The official starting point of the walk around the Kaaba, that forms the core of the holy pilgrimage (hajj). During the Tawaf, the pilgrims kiss or touch the black stone as they circumambulate the Kaaba.

Some Muslims are more willing to believe that the Stone itself has some supernatural powers. They believe that this ‘stone fell from the sky during the time of Adam and Eve, and that it has the power to cleanse worshippers of their sins by absorbing them into itself’. They say that the Black Stone was once a pure and dazzling white, and it has turned black because of the sins it has absorbed over the ages.

It is remarkable, however, that even though the temple contained 360 idols worshipped before Muhammad's prophethood, the Black Stone was never kissed or made an idol of worship by the pagan Arabs. In fact, the Kaaba was never worshipped by the idolaters prior to Muhammad's Prophethood. The building contained idols of worship but the building itself was never an object of worship.

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#36815 Feb 8, 2013
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#36816 Feb 8, 2013
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The fact that the Kaaba was rebuilt by Abraham is not an historical fact! Since the stone has been there ever since, the pagans found it lying in the sands of Arabia; it stands to reason that Abraham placed the stone in the Kaaba? The Black Stone is in fact not the cornerstone of the Kaaba, and there never was an emblem of the progeny of Abraham that was rejected by the Israelites. It was Muhammad, who made it the corner stone of the Kingdom of Allah.

The Black Stone, therefore, passes for the mithaq (primordial covenant between the Creator and His created). And in the whole world there is only this unhewn stone, cut out of the mountains without hands, and that is the corner-stone of a building, which in point of importance, stands unique in the world...???

Touching or kissing the stone has a profound impact on the faithful, as it is supposed to count in their favor on the Islamic Judgment Day.[Judgment Day is a metaphor for the return to balance with the duality of the reality of man.]

Ibn Jubayr (1145-1217), the great Muslim traveler from Valencia, describes the emotion he felt on touching the stone,“The stone, when one kisses it, has a softness and freshness, which delights the mouth; so much so that he who places his lips upon it wishes never to remove them”. It suffices, moreover, that the Prophet said that it is the ‘Right Hand of God on Earth’ so Allah has a ‘Stoned Hand’ also?

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MUQ yes or no

East Maitland, Australia

#36817 Feb 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01 and 02. As Quran says “What is left after truth but the falsehood”? The same I can say to sum up my response to your post. When some thing is “perfected” the only way for its ‘Evolution” and “Improvement” is to slide it lower and lower.
That is what the situation between Islam and these “man made religions” like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism etc.(by the
way, all these names are given by the followers and none by their Prophets or originators). All these religions are imperfect and unable to keep pace with time.
So every now and often they need to be “modified and align with the ongoing ruling
philosophy of the world”. Otherwise people will throw them out.(If you want to see the example, look at Christians “trying to prove from the Bible” that is not against Sodomy and Lesbians!!)
02. In case of Islam, it has sufficient flexibility to take care of changing needs of human society. But as regards fundamentals, they are fixed and there is no need to change them. So it remains “fixed and flexible” at the same time. If there was
any need to change the Fundamentals, then there would have been need for a New Prophet.
To give you some examples:
a. Idol Worship is an abomination now as it was 1400 years ago.
b. Imbibing Alcohol and Narcotic is as bad now as it was 1400 years back. No Medical research has proven that Alcohol and Narcotics became “good” for human race in these modern times.
c. Gambling, Usury, Interest are as bad for
human society as it was 1400 years back. Just because they are known by different names today, would make them beneficial to human society.
d. Adultery, fornication, illegal sex, Sodomy,
Lesbianism , Pornography and all types of sexual immorality and perversion are as bad today as they were 1400 years back. Just because we are living in 21st Century would make them beneficial
to the human society.
e. Crimes like Theft, Robbery, Rape, Murder,…still need strong punishment today as they were 1400 years back.
The Modern “human” methods of “soft
punishments and reformation” have not cured the disease and it is always on the rise. So the “Only” solution to curb these crimes are to use Islamic System. And Islam does not only gives
deterrent punishment, it makes a society in which there are less chances of committing these crimes.
05. There are no idols in Islam and I do not know what are you talking about.
Moon is not worshipped in Islam in any way and Quran says “Do not prostrate before Sun or Moon, but before Allah who created them”
06. Seeing the examples of your “evolved” religion and what mockery it has made of your
society, we thank Allah that we are on the true path.
Our fundamentals are same and we can say that we follow the paths of Prophet.
Which Prophet’s path your “Evolved religions”
are following?
When a Deobandi practices Taqiyya they like to flavour it as answer with a truth totally unrelated to the question, or to rephrase the question and either partially answer it or omit what was being asked.
Here we see such Taqiyya.
Are you going to answer the question or not.
Q. In the 9th century Islam (Caliphates) for 30 years ruled that the Quran was man made, incorrect and incomplete and that Muhammad got many things wrong. They also ruled muhammad was just a messenger, not a prophet and that there were other such messengers (who allah spoke to) before and after muhammad.

Please answer either YES or NO.
Thanks

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#36818 Feb 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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You should ask this question to our Shielaa the Great. What type of Nurse is allowed so much free time on her duties?
I spend much less time on internet than most people. Half hour in the morning to get all my mails and half an hour in the evening to post all my replies (That is why you see them in bunches)
Why defer my question to include Shielaa for I am curious of your station within the Kingdom ?
The Fixers

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#36819 Feb 8, 2013
Sheilaa Since: Jun 12 14,283
#36816 1 hr ago

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#36820 Feb 8, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Why defer my question to include Shielaa for I am curious of your station within the Kingdom ?
Why?

Gosh I forgot about laugh number one ,you really are the biggest clown on Topix and the whole wide world knows it.
WTF

Australia

#36822 Feb 8, 2013
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Abe, the Original Log Cabin Republican
Lincoln in His Lover’s Nightgown

by TARIQ ALI

Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln is consciously restrictive, concentrating as it does on how the vote was manipulated and the 13th Amendment passed, but Mrs Lincoln is not exactly missing from the movie. So why didn’t the scriptwriter Tony Kushner, a staunch gay rights activist who ‘personally believe[s] that there is some reason to speculate that Lincoln might have been bisexual or gay’, include any of that speculation in the film? There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence to suggest that Lincoln slept with a number of men. In an interview with Gold Derby, Kushner said:

I wanted to write about a very specific moment and I chose this moment and I don’t feel that there’s any evidence at this particular moment that Lincoln was having sex with anybody… He seems to have not slept and taken no time off and during this period I think he was beginning to feel ground to a pulp by the war and by the pressures of his job. I find it difficult to believe that Lincoln was banging anybody.

Not very convincing. Especially when you consider that one of the men who shared Lincoln’s bed was his military aide and bodyguard, Captain David Derickson (in 1862-63, before the film begins).

Kushner may find it difficult to believe that at the height of a political crisis such ‘banging’ is possible. But history and present times contradict such a narrow view.&#8232; The teenage Abe was much more relaxed than his current sycophants. He wrote a pre-homage to gay marriage (quoted in William Herndon’s 1889 Life), which at the moment appears to be the only issue that divides centre-left from centre-right in Euro-American political life:

I will tell you a joke about Joel and Mary,

It is neither a joke nor a story.

For Reuben and Charles have married two girls,

But Billy has married a boy.

A few years ago, not long after reading C.A. Tripp’s pioneering The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, I had lunch with Gore Vidal in LA, and taped our conversation for later use. The following exchange is revealing:

TA: Given the recent book and materials on Lincoln’s homosexuality how do you feel having portrayed him as a raving heterosexual in your novel?

GV: You’re a bastard. What a bastard question. It hurts. It hurts. How could I have missed that?

TA: You didn’t look?

GV: I had no idea, but since Tripp’s book I’ve gone back and devoured everything on the subject. There is no doubt in my mind. Once he was in bed with the Captain and the latter’s son walked in. On another occasion they were disturbed and Lincoln opened the door wearing his lover’s nightgown. Oh what a fool I was…

Kushner missed an opportunity to give the issue an airing and in so doing caved to what the marketing people think is a homophobic audience. Daniel Day-Lewis would surely have risen to the occasion, but perhaps another time.

Tariq Ali is the author of The Duel: Pakistan on the Flightpath of American Power. He can be reached at [email protected]
Brit Expat

Clapiers, France

#36823 Feb 8, 2013
Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook.
I said, "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4,000
f***ing Muslims have added me as a friend!

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#36824 Feb 8, 2013
The Fixers wrote:
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Why?
Gosh I forgot about laugh number one ,you really are the biggest clown on Topix and the whole wide world knows it.
Yes I did say that of you ,your spelling is improving
The Fixers

Los Angeles, CA

#36825 Feb 8, 2013
Brit Expat wrote:
Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook.
I said, "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4,000
f***ing Muslims have added me as a friend!
Allo Brit, t'es pas cinglée toi?
The Fixers

Los Angeles, CA

#36826 Feb 8, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Yes I did say that of you ,your spelling is improving
KISS ~ Keep It Short STUPID(EASS)- your best bet against despice.

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#36827 Feb 8, 2013
The Fixers wrote:
http://www.islam-watch.org/Lennard/Islam-Sacr...

The fact that the Kaaba was rebuilt by Abraham is not an historical fact! Since the stone has been there ever since, the pagans found it lying in the sands of Arabia; it stands to reason that Abraham placed the stone in the Kaaba? The Black Stone is in fact not the cornerstone of the Kaaba, and there never was an emblem of the progeny of Abraham that was rejected by the Israelites. It was Muhammad, who made it the corner stone of the Kingdom of Allah.

The Black Stone, therefore, passes for the mithaq (primordial covenant between the Creator and His created). And in the whole world there is only this unhewn stone, cut out of the mountains without hands, and that is the corner-stone of a building, which in point of importance, stands unique in the world...???

Touching or kissing the stone has a profound impact on the faithful, as it is supposed to count in their favor on the Islamic Judgment Day.[Judgment Day is a metaphor for the return to balance with the duality of the reality of man.]

Ibn Jubayr (1145-1217), the great Muslim traveler from Valencia, describes the emotion he felt on touching the stone,“The stone, when one kisses it, has a softness and freshness, which delights the mouth; so much so that he who places his lips upon it wishes never to remove them”. It suffices, moreover, that the Prophet said that it is the ‘Right Hand of God on Earth’ so Allah has a ‘Stoned Hand’ also?

The single most important reason for kissing the stone is that Prophet Muhammad did so! No devotional significance, whatsoever, is attached to the stone by the pre-Islamic pagans, who worshipped it. Kissing or touching the Black Stone is a reverential act of acknowledgment that Allah's hand directed its placement and in its construction. That Abraham and Muhammad, Allah's blessing upon them, had touched and kissed the stone, and an acknowledgment that Allah had entrusted the 'corner stone' of His religious central focus for man upon that hallowed, sacred place.

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#36828 Feb 8, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_04_D...

Dishonest Abe

"Abraham was tested by circumcision, shaving his pubic hair, washing the fore-part and rear, using a toothstick, and plucking his armpits."

Nothing is more essential to Islam’s credibility than Muhammad’s version of Abraham. Islam must prove that he was a Muslim, that his God was Allah, and that he worshiped in Mecca. Recognizing this, Muhammad tried desperately to make the case.

We pick up the trail in Tabari's History with something that sounds like Hitler's idea of Arian supremacy. Tabari II:21 "Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met the children of Shem, the latter would enslave them." The slavery theme keeps reappearing because Muhammad used the slave trade to finance the spread of Islam. Turning Noah into a racist to justify such behavior wasn't beneath Islam’s prophet - but then again, little was.

We're going to pass by Muhammad’s history lesson on the mythical tribes of Ad and Thamud. Their battles with the Almighty seemed important to Muhammad as he dedicated scores of Hadith to them. But I want to focus on the Islamic path to Abraham as it lies at the core of the prophet's deception. Tabari II:50 "Nimrod was Abraham's master and wanted him burned.... The first king who ruled over all the earth was Nimrod. There were four such kings who ruled all the earth: Nimrod, Solomon bin David, Dhu'l-Qarnain, and Nebuchadnezzar - two believers [Muslims] and two infidels." Nimrod only ruled a city-state. Solomon's kingdom only included a portion of the Middle East. Nebuchadnezzar's realm like that of Dhu'l-Qarnain, as Alexander the Great, was large, but neither ruled over the whole earth. As for two of them being Muslims - Muhammad and Allah are again mistaken. There wasn't a Muslim in the batch.

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#36829 Feb 8, 2013
Afghan refugee jailed for 'evil act'

Belinda Merhab
AAP
February 08, 2013 2:46PM

Soltan Ahmad Azizi sentenced for the murder of his wife Marzieh Rahimi.

AN Afghan refugee who strangled his wife with her scarf in a fit of rage because she wanted a divorce has been jailed for 20 years.

Soltan Azizi, 48, has twice been found guilty by Victorian Supreme Court juries of brutally beating and strangling 33-year-old Marzieh Rahimi in their Hampton Park home in November 2007.

Read more at:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/afghan-...
wesley

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#36830 Feb 8, 2013
australians need to pay attention to whats happening in u.k. with the muslims,they have now regretted there decision to let them in the country,muslims are nothing but radical terrorist,they kill anybody who speaks out about there religion,they want to control how you dress,speak,walk,act,ect,ect,a nd they treat woman like second or third class humans,they never live in peace or do they live in peace with other religions.why do they want to go to another country anyway if things are so good,beware the snake that hides in plain sight ready to strike.it is a islamist plan to infiltrate as many countrys as they can then they all will strike when the time comes..

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