Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46810 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Rosa Winkel

Australia

#36759 Feb 6, 2013
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The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years AFTER the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years AFTER Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years AFTER Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 AFTER Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years AFTER Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years AFTER Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years AFTER France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years AFTER the capital of the Christian world, Rome itself, was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.
By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.
Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad’s death. As early as 652, Muhammad’s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death. In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.
In 1095, Byzantine Emperor, Alexius I Comneus began begging the pope in Rome for help in turning back the Muslim armies which were overrunning what is now Turkey, grabbing property as they went and turning churches into mosques. Several hundred thousand Christians had been killed in Anatolia alone in the decades following 1050 by Seljuk invaders interested in 'converting' the survivors to Islam.
Not only were Christians losing their lives in their own lands to the Muslim advance but pilgrims to the Holy Land from other parts of Europe were being harassed, kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam and occasionally murdered.(Compare this to Islam’s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad’s time).
Renowned scholar Bernard Lewis points out that, "unlike the jihad, it [the Crusade] was concerned primarily with the defense or reconquest of threatened or lost Christian territory... The Muslim jihad, in contrast, was perceived as unlimited, as a religious obligation that would continue until all the world had either adopted the Muslim faith or submitted to Muslim rule... The object of jihad is to bring the whole world under Islamic law."
ISLAM WAS THE ATTACKER AND CHRISTIANITY WAS THE DEFENDER. Just like today Islam is still the attacker and other countries respond by defending themselves. The aim of Islam is world domination as it was then and it will never change until Jesus returns to destroy Islam and all its defenders
A fascinating history lesson, thanks.
So the problem of Islamic takeover is nothing new @ all. Despite their bloodthirsty reputation now, the Crusaders knew how to deal with them. Better than today's bleeding heart liberals.
Lee

Australia

#36761 Feb 6, 2013
Muq here's some more, ISLAMIC SUCCESS

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/06/28756...

But we know its Islamic failure.
Mojo

Port Lincoln, Australia

#36762 Feb 6, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
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A fascinating history lesson, thanks.
So the problem of Islamic takeover is nothing new @ all. Despite their bloodthirsty reputation now, the Crusaders knew how to deal with them. Better than today's bleeding heart liberals.
now go get a job bludging parasite!
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#36763 Feb 6, 2013
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I wonder what MUQ makes of this story in his beloved Quran?
Perhaps the Quran is telling us that there is a better way to enter space. Two oversized eagles and a chest will suffice. Foolish NASA.
They were definite space cadets.
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#36764 Feb 6, 2013
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A fascinating history lesson, thanks.
So the problem of Islamic takeover is nothing new @ all. Despite their bloodthirsty reputation now, the Crusaders knew how to deal with them. Better than today's bleeding heart liberals.
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#36765 Feb 6, 2013
No surprises here!!!!!!!!!!

Alarabiya.net English

Last Updated: Wed Feb 06, 2013 14:32 pm (KSA) 11:32 am (GMT)

Youth unemployment in Arab region is highest in the world: International Labour Organization

By Al Arabiya

Youth unemployment in the Arab region is the highest in the world, according to a report by the U.N. International Labour Organization (ILO) released on Tuesday.

The investigative body stated that the Arab uprisings have exposed skewed development policies, social justice deficits and over twenty years of poorly managed economic liberalization.

“As a region, youth unemployment is the highest globally at 23.2 percent, compared to a world average of 13.9 percent, and varies significantly within sub-regions,” said the report named “Rethinking Economic Growth: Towards Productive and Inclusive Arab Societies.”

The report does have some positive assessments of the situation in the Middle East. The Arab region has achieved near universal primary education enrolment since the 1970’s.

Furthermore the youth literacy rate is now 92 percent in North Africa and 99 per cent in the Middle East and the Gulf Cooperation Council, reported the Saudi Press Agency.

Countries in the region were able to tackle debt and inflation during the 1990’s and 2000’s, they also managed to spur economic growth and create jobs.

However, growth lagged behind global standards and the newly created jobs were focused in the arena of low productivity sectors. Governments paid scant attention to the social consequences of their economic policies.

Meanwhile, according to the report, the private sector has remained among the least competitive globally due to low rates of investment as well as a poor regulatory environment. There is also the noted issue of widespread nepotism and corruption.

Mohammad Pournik, Poverty Practice Leader at the United Nations Development Fund’s (UNDP) regional centre in Cairo, noted that one of the demands of Arab youth was attaining jobs without the need for intermediaries or “Wasta.”

“The real issue is the need for jobs with social dignity rather than jobs that come at the expense of dignity,” said Pournik.

According to the report, economic growth in the next decade is dependent on good governance – which must improve to attract higher rates of investment and enable structural and institutional reforms.

“Arabs need an inclusive development model that is grounded in social justice,” said Nada al-Nashif, Regional Director for the Arab States, International Labour Organization.

The ILO and UNDP plan to hold roundtable talks on the findings of the report, the first is slated to occur at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Middle East Centre in Beirut on February 8, 2013.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02...
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#36766 Feb 6, 2013
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#36767 Feb 6, 2013
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#36768 Feb 6, 2013
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#36771 Feb 6, 2013
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#36774 Feb 6, 2013
Review:“Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery”

by Dr. Sami Alrabaa

11 Mar, 2009

If you want to learn about real Islam, read Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery by M.A. Khan. It is not a book that is based on “I think….” and “I believe …..” It is a documented book, backed by relevant Islam legacy, including the Koran and Hadith.

The author, Khan, is a typical case of a young Muslim who was taught that “Prophet Muhammad was the ideal human being: most merciful and just; that Islam is the most peaceful religion.”

After 9/11, Khan began reading the scriptures of Islam and realized that Islam is actually a “manifesto of open-ended war against non-Muslims for converting them or for subjugating them into horribly degraded dhimmi subjects.”

Khan also found out that the Muslim leader was “anything but what a peace-loving, merciful, and just person stands for.”

This is exactly the point and the biggest lesson we draw from Khan’s experience with Islam. Therefore, I always say that if Muslims read at least the Koran and Hadith, they would reach the same conclusion Khan came to.

More often than not, Muslims read the Koran and Hadith superficially and their belief in Islam blinds them from seeing the truth.

To be continued
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#36775 Feb 6, 2013
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#36776 Feb 6, 2013
When you confront Muslims with all those numerous atrocious passages in the Koran and Hadith that preach hatred against non-Muslims, violence and discrimination against women and non-Muslims, either they say,“This what Allah wants us to do”, or they claim that the situation in non-Muslim societies, in particular in the West, is not better. Their belief is stronger than rationality. For some atrocious passages in the Koran, check out this article.

If hatred and violence were confined to Islamic scriptures without translating them into practice, one would say,“Oh, well, people are entitled to believe in whatever they wish.”

In Islam, however, this is not the case. The number of Muslims who believe in Sharia – an archaic “law” that contradicts lots of universal human right – and in introducing it in every society, including the West, is on the rise. To add insult to injury the number of Western apologists who loudly think of considering Sharia as a law next to the secular one is also rising.

Khan does not only narrate facts, historical and contemporary, he documents them. He says,“A poll 2006 found some 40% of British Muslims wanted to be governed by Sharia.” And “32% thought that killing was justified in defense of Islam.”

Kahn cites Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, who “said in February 2008,“The introduction of Sharia Law in the UK was ‘unavoidable’ and urged the government to consider its legal introduction.”

In addition, Kahn documents the history of Jihad; its roots and nature as an Islamic “invention”, its development and current state of affairs.

“The only (……) group of Muslims who will (certainly) enter Paradise, bypassing the roasting of hellfire, are those who would die as martyrs while fighting in the cause of Allah, e.g. while engaging in Jihad or holy war {Quran 9/111).”

Under “Basic Beliefs in Islam,” Kahn discusses the Muslim claim that Islam is the last and best faith has Allah ever preached. Khan writes,“Allah Himself asserts in the Quran that He sent Islam to abrogate and replace all other religions.”

Khan comprehensively and exclusively focuses on Islam as a creed and practice. If I were him, I would have, once in a while, compared Islam to Judaism and Christianity, in particular with regard the “supremacy of Islam” over other faiths.

For example, while the Bible, the old and new testament, preaches love and positive human values,“Don’t kill!”“Don’t steal!” etc. Allah commands Muslims to follow his apostle, Muhammad, regardless how atrocious his deeds against his enemies are.

Islam, Khan shows very clearly, is the only religion in the history of mankind that used force to subjugate people from other faiths, during the rise of Islam and thereafter. Hence, it is a propagandistic myth when Muslim scholars allege that Islam “freed the oppressed.”

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#36777 Feb 6, 2013
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I don't care how many you post me but, I will continue to post about Islam and the atrocities being caused by it's followers. For every post you send me I will post one about the atrocities being done by Islam regardless of whether or not it is relevant to Australia.

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#36778 Feb 6, 2013
To prove that Islam is actually a travesty of Judaism and Christianity and other faiths at the time, Khan documents the influence of these religions on Muhammad’s new “faith,” which he and his followers fought so bitterly.

Besides, Khan proves that the so-called golden era – between the 7th and 13th century – of the Muslim Empire did not flourish due to Muslims’ contributions but to those of no-Muslims.“Muslim rulers found the Jews proficient in finance, the Greeks skilled in engineering, architecture and arts, and the Christians in law, medicine, education, and administration. They found it convenient and prudent to employ some of those infidels to continue in their respective professions. As a result, much of the contributions in early centuries of Islam, which Muslims consider as Islamic, came from the mind, toil, and sweat of the much despised non-Arab infidels.”

None of the Arab scholars who lived during the golden era stemmed from the Arabian Peninsula, the birth place of Islam. Ibn Khaldun was a North African and Ibn Rushd was an Andalucian (Spanish) Arab. Both were philosophers and were persecuted for advocating rationality in a bid to reform Islam.

Islamic Jihad is a valuable contribution to every public and private library, comprehensive and meticulously documented. It is a valuable guide to understanding Jihad, i.e. terrorism and the legacy that stands behind it. Further, it is a gripping read, written in a language which everybody understands. I strongly recommend it to both lay and specialized readers.

Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is a sociology professor and an Arab/Muslim culture specialist. Before moving to Germany he taught at Kuwait University, King Saud University, and Michigan State University.
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Spain: Former Muslim Could Face Deportation for Speaking Against Islam

by AWR Hawkins 6 Feb 2013, 6:57 AM PDT

Imram Farasat, a Pakistani Muslim-turned-Christian in 2004 and who was granted asylum in Spain to escape threats to his life, is now being threatened with deportation for speaking out against Islam.

If deported he will be sent back to Pakistan, a move which Farasat and his attorney Sam Nunberg believe will almost certainly result in death.

Welcome to the world of Sharia.

Farasat says that he converted to Christianity after 26 years in Islam because he became convinced Islam was "not a religion," but a "political dictatorship which persecutes and teaches to persecute." He began speaking out against this persecution upon his conversion, and for this is now being pursued by Sharia enforcers.

This is Farasat's observation:

Christians are being persecuted in Islamic countries to the maximum level of suffering and torture and Islam is trying to invade the Western world and kill our values...It is time that citizens of the Western world should stand up and speak the truth against something that is wrong. The Bible teaches us to speak the truth in any situation. And for me the truth is that Islam is a man-made religion which was created in order to govern the world. It has several contradictions in itself. It teaches killing (Jihad),[hatred of] non-Muslims,[discrimination against] women, rule the world at any price, etc.

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