Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46739 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#36712 Feb 4, 2013
The sInghdians Busters wrote:
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Ade, Idiotic Inferior low caste mutant shit-coloured Moucheslime gutter rat, Please refrain from posting profanity or offensive unintelligible material from unexpected places.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T6...

Sheilaa

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#36713 Feb 4, 2013
Adelaidean1O1 wrote:
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Sheilaa, you have been misrepresented by "MalbarCACA Controller, UK" here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T4...
Thanks for the alert Adelaidean. This idiot has nothing better to do than to try and drag everyone down to his level! The truth is he is ignored by everyone on this thread, what he posts is irrelevant

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36714 Feb 4, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

As we turn the page we are confronted with some rather astonishing Nimrod fairytales. It’s odd that a historian like Tabari would jettison his chronology to insert these randomly throughout his depictions of Noah and Abraham. I'm surprised that he even presents them at all, but nonetheless, they are there, and thus we must deal with them. Tabari II:106 "Nimrod's arrogance and rebelliousness against his Lord went on for a long time, some say four hundred years - in spite of Allah’s forbearance with him."

The pot calls the kettle black. "Nimrod was ignorant. He was the first tyrant on earth." As a result: "Allah sent gnats against them [the Babylonians, I suppose], and they ate their flesh and drank their blood, and nothing but their bones were left. But Allah gave Nimrod a single gnat which entered his nostril and went on beating the inside of his head with hammers for four hundred years. The most merciful of his friends was he who bunched up his hands and beat Nimrod's head with them."

That really made him mad. Tabari II:107 "Nimrod vowed to seek out Abraham's God. So he took four eagle fledglings and nurtured them on meat and wine so that they grew up tough and strong. Then he tied them to a chest and sat in it. He suspended a piece of meat over them and they flew up trying to reach it. When they had risen high in the sky, Nimrod looked down and beheld the earth. He saw the mountains crawling below like creeping ants. When they had risen still higher he looked and saw the earth with a sea surrounding it. After climbing still higher, he came into a region of darkness and could not see what was above him nor what was below him. He became frightened and threw the meat down. The eagles followed it, darting downward. When the mountains saw them coming near and heard their noise, they became afraid and almost moved from their places, but did not do so. As Allah says,'Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, even if their plot were one whereby the mountains should be moved.'[Qur'an 14:46]"

I recognize that Islamic Hadith are designed to explain the Qur'an, but this one is counterproductive. And sadly, there is no excuse. These fables were concocted a thousand years after the frivolity of pagan myths had been exposed to reason. This is long after Moses, David, Solomon, Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle enlightened the civilized world.

To be continued

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36715 Feb 5, 2013
The sInghdians Busters wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever since we sprung ti IndoMauritian pilon IMPOSTOR (ID #7 ??????, Australia STU PIDEASS of The ADELAIDEANs) cleaning toilets and spinning one hundred strong in mind and body lap dancers in European and worlwide loos and WCS it has been refusing to name them all.
Why?
How would you like me to be cruel to you ?
The Aggrolite Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36716 Feb 5, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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How would you like me to be cruel to you ?
Are you Adelaidean1O1?

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Australia

#36717 Feb 5, 2013
The Aggrolite Busters wrote:
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Are you Adelaidean1O1?
Why not be answerable for your abuse and ID thefts before barking questions, beady? Hoping to divert attention?
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#36718 Feb 5, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
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Why not be answerable for your abuse and ID thefts before barking questions, beady? Hoping to divert attention?
DISGUSTING scumbag BLACK DALIT kamina aadami ba$$tard NutCase FUKINGAYHOMOSEXUAL STINKYARSIEHOLE MalbarCACA ADELAIDEAN MULLET AND YELLOW MANE PONY TROLL.

Dirty Inferior Dilat Indian IndoMauritian Coolie, Stinky Indian Shitskin, inferior midget turd and TOPIX PAID TROLLS shows up here?

DO NOT EVER SHOW YOUR UGLY LUNATIC hide my ASS! FILTHY DISGUSTING IndoMauritian MalBarCACA mutant shit-coloured RAT, IMPOSTOR The ADELAIDEANs POOFTER TRANNies #201 coward, yellow belly, piss weak wimp, Liar, makeup artiste supreme, falsifier, fraud, lowlife poltroon, gutless lily-livered pansy weakling PAKIPUKE OONSIKHJABi MUG HERE AGAIN.

FOOK OFF and NEVER RETURN
SandCastle

Telopea, Australia

#36719 Feb 5, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
http://prophetofdoom.net/Proph et_of_Doom_03_I_Dont_Noah_Bout _This.Islam
As we turn the page we are confronted with some rather astonishing Nimrod fairytales. It’s odd that a historian like Tabari would jettison his chronology to insert these randomly throughout his depictions of Noah and Abraham. I'm surprised that he even presents them at all, but nonetheless, they are there, and thus we must deal with them. Tabari II:106 "Nimrod's arrogance and rebelliousness against his Lord went on for a long time, some say four hundred years - in spite of Allah’s forbearance with him."
The pot calls the kettle black. "Nimrod was ignorant. He was the first tyrant on earth." As a result: "Allah sent gnats against them [the Babylonians, I suppose], and they ate their flesh and drank their blood, and nothing but their bones were left. But Allah gave Nimrod a single gnat which entered his nostril and went on beating the inside of his head with hammers for four hundred years. The most merciful of his friends was he who bunched up his hands and beat Nimrod's head with them."
That really made him mad. Tabari II:107 "Nimrod vowed to seek out Abraham's God. So he took four eagle fledglings and nurtured them on meat and wine so that they grew up tough and strong. Then he tied them to a chest and sat in it. He suspended a piece of meat over them and they flew up trying to reach it. When they had risen high in the sky, Nimrod looked down and beheld the earth. He saw the mountains crawling below like creeping ants. When they had risen still higher he looked and saw the earth with a sea surrounding it. After climbing still higher, he came into a region of darkness and could not see what was above him nor what was below him. He became frightened and threw the meat down. The eagles followed it, darting downward. When the mountains saw them coming near and heard their noise, they became afraid and almost moved from their places, but did not do so. As Allah says,'Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, even if their plot were one whereby the mountains should be moved.'[Qur'an 14:46]"
I recognize that Islamic Hadith are designed to explain the Qur'an, but this one is counterproductive. And sadly, there is no excuse. These fables were concocted a thousand years after the frivolity of pagan myths had been exposed to reason. This is long after Moses, David, Solomon, Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle enlightened the civilized world.
To be continued
I wonder what MUQ makes of this story in his beloved Quran?

Perhaps the Quran is telling us that there is a better way to enter space. Two oversized eagles and a chest will suffice. Foolish NASA.
SandCastle

Telopea, Australia

#36720 Feb 5, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
http://prophetofdoom.net/Proph et_of_Doom_03_I_Dont_Noah_Bout _This.Islam
As we turn the page we are confronted with some rather astonishing Nimrod fairytales. It’s odd that a historian like Tabari would jettison his chronology to insert these randomly throughout his depictions of Noah and Abraham. I'm surprised that he even presents them at all, but nonetheless, they are there, and thus we must deal with them. Tabari II:106 "Nimrod's arrogance and rebelliousness against his Lord went on for a long time, some say four hundred years - in spite of Allah’s forbearance with him."
The pot calls the kettle black. "Nimrod was ignorant. He was the first tyrant on earth." As a result: "Allah sent gnats against them [the Babylonians, I suppose], and they ate their flesh and drank their blood, and nothing but their bones were left. But Allah gave Nimrod a single gnat which entered his nostril and went on beating the inside of his head with hammers for four hundred years. The most merciful of his friends was he who bunched up his hands and beat Nimrod's head with them."
That really made him mad. Tabari II:107 "Nimrod vowed to seek out Abraham's God. So he took four eagle fledglings and nurtured them on meat and wine so that they grew up tough and strong. Then he tied them to a chest and sat in it. He suspended a piece of meat over them and they flew up trying to reach it. When they had risen high in the sky, Nimrod looked down and beheld the earth. He saw the mountains crawling below like creeping ants. When they had risen still higher he looked and saw the earth with a sea surrounding it. After climbing still higher, he came into a region of darkness and could not see what was above him nor what was below him. He became frightened and threw the meat down. The eagles followed it, darting downward. When the mountains saw them coming near and heard their noise, they became afraid and almost moved from their places, but did not do so. As Allah says,'Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, even if their plot were one whereby the mountains should be moved.'[Qur'an 14:46]"
I recognize that Islamic Hadith are designed to explain the Qur'an, but this one is counterproductive. And sadly, there is no excuse. These fables were concocted a thousand years after the frivolity of pagan myths had been exposed to reason. This is long after Moses, David, Solomon, Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle enlightened the civilized world.
To be continued
Do you believe Nimrod was according to the book of Genesis and Book of Chronicles the great great grandson of Noah?

History, Archaeology, Palaeontology, Geology, Biology, Meteorology; hell even theology would disagree with such an implication.

They would disagree a thousand times based on the littlest of evidence they can garner. It would be all that would suffice for the open minded.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36721 Feb 5, 2013
Tom wrote:
01. I don't give a frig about communism Who cares !! Who cares about Jews..... Who cares about you !!

We care about the truth that you hide and avoid.....

TITLE :

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

We care about people that destroy their homeland then flee to our country and cause trouble.

http://www.news.com.au/national/police-use-pe ...

02. The muslim world is a dismal failure, Point out the success you talking about, how about a single fact ?
Ans.

01. If you do not care about any one, then go into a cave and lead the life of a hermit!!

02. You ask me to point out a Single Point that show our success?

That all these Powerful Nations are Afraid of a people that have nothing…. Is the Biggest proof of our success!!

We are not afraid of you people, but you are afraid of us!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#36722 Feb 5, 2013
Braddock wrote:
Meaning you have no answer to my observations.

What is success in your view?

ANS- Success is the righteous worship of a loving god and tolerance for all mankind, not killing infidels, minorities, Jews or Christians as commanded by your death cult.

..

ANS- Christianity's success is proven by the quality of the nations of today in which every muslim who hates there failed home land comes running too, seeking asylum and permission to live in, and the only Christian who goes to a muslim land is to offer the help that the locals don't get from there domestic leaders of islam.
Ans.

Omitting Obiter Dicta from your post, here is my response to your observations:

01. If the definition of success is what you mentioned, then Islam and Muslims do have that success.

We do Righteous Worship of a True Loving God and have tolerance for all religions and their religious personalities. I do not see any Muslim using foul and insulting language for Moses, jesus, Rama and Krishna, Buddha etc.

But I see followers of these religions using foul language and insulting our Prophet, our religious scriptures and our ways of living.

So you fail in your own definition of success!!

02. If you think that success is the increase in Worldly Power and High standard of living, then what would you say about the "First three centuries of Christianity"?

a. Was Christianity a "failure" in those three centuries? When Christians were a persecuted lot, having no power and no authority. And then what about Jesus' own time. Was he a failure and success?

b. And then what about dark ages of Medieval Europe? Was Christianity a success then?

c. And do you think the increase in science and technology and wealth of Modern White people is because they follow Christianity?

d. You are deluded, because the rise of White People started when the "Left" Christianity and started following "Reason and Logic"

e. Now these Christian nations are "pitching" for Homosexuality, Free Sex, gambling, Pornography and every type of sexual perversion.

Just go back to your Scriptures and find out what is the meaning of success.
Tom

Australia

#36723 Feb 5, 2013
Abdul wrote:
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Se Sob Sune R Ki Korbe? Meyera Sob Somoy Chodar Shuk Pete Chai. Kintu Prokas Korte Pare Na. Ar Ei Choda Khabar Eccha Ta Muta-muti 7/8 Bocor Boyos Holey hoy. Biswas Na Hoy, Ekti Bar Try Koro. Oy Boyosei Ekta Meye Dharun Shuk Dite Pare. Boyos Kom To Ki Hoyece, Ekta 7/8 Bocorer Meye Koto time Chudte Pare , Ta Tomar Jana Nei.
What ! you been inhaling to much camel dung smoke while cooking those goat testicles. Speak the world language English
Tom

Australia

#36724 Feb 5, 2013
Oh my goodness Muq, I am getting a feeling in my waters !! I'm getting another premonition of a river blood flowing down some muslim street in the next day or so.

We will not be able to Ignore some good old fashion Islamic Success .....

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#36725 Feb 5, 2013
Everyone should fear of Muslims because these religious hungry to kill fanatics only dreaming about killing people whom they call the infidels, not because they really need to do this, but because Islam says so.
Muslims are plague of our century. The biggest part of crimes, in Europe for instance, is committed by muslims. Media is quite about the facts, because governments still support tolerance and multiculturalism, and both as we all know failed.
Tell you story of my own. I had a muslim neighbor and he seemed to be a good guy, but one day a police officer called me to give him all I know about the guy. I told the police that he many times organized meetings at his place with other members of muslim community and some other details. It turned out that a 'good' guy and his kinsmen were planning terrorist attacks in a number of European countries. And now they are rotting in prisons.
Don't trust these filthy muslim animals. They are just two-faced bastards and that's one of the reasons why everyone should be afraid of them. Stay cautious.
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#36726 Feb 5, 2013
Tom Chatswood Australia wrote:
Oh my goodness Muq, I am getting a feeling in my waters !! I'm getting another premonition of a river blood flowing down some muslim street in the next day or so.
We will not be able to Ignore some good old fashion Islamic Success .....
With a name like Tom you're getting a feeling on your waters?

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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36727 Feb 5, 2013
The Aggrolite Busters wrote:
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Are you Adelaidean1O1?
I am me !

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36728 Feb 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Omitting Obiter Dicta from your post, here is my response to your observations:
01. If the definition of success is what you mentioned, then Islam and Muslims do have that success.
We do Righteous Worship of a True Loving God and have tolerance for all religions and their religious personalities. I do not see any Muslim using foul and insulting language for Moses, jesus, Rama and Krishna, Buddha etc.
But I see followers of these religions using foul language and insulting our Prophet, our religious scriptures and our ways of living.
So you fail in your own definition of success!!
02. If you think that success is the increase in Worldly Power and High standard of living, then what would you say about the "First three centuries of Christianity"?
a. Was Christianity a "failure" in those three centuries? When Christians were a persecuted lot, having no power and no authority. And then what about Jesus' own time. Was he a failure and success?
b. And then what about dark ages of Medieval Europe? Was Christianity a success then?
c. And do you think the increase in science and technology and wealth of Modern White people is because they follow Christianity?
d. You are deluded, because the rise of White People started when the "Left" Christianity and started following "Reason and Logic"
e. Now these Christian nations are "pitching" for Homosexuality, Free Sex, gambling, Pornography and every type of sexual perversion.
Just go back to your Scriptures and find out what is the meaning of success.
Hello MUQ;You are not living in the world we see with our own eyes
The Aggrolite Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36729 Feb 5, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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I am me !
And who is that ?

Your IDs (Muzzie, MalbarCACA, Topix Paid TROLL or Nibiruan)
Your real full names
Your actual locations and addresses
Your Emails
Your real genuine telephone numbers

Quick fast.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36730 Feb 5, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
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Do you believe Nimrod was according to the book of Genesis and Book of Chronicles the great great grandson of Noah?
History, Archaeology, Palaeontology, Geology, Biology, Meteorology; hell even theology would disagree with such an implication.
They would disagree a thousand times based on the littlest of evidence they can garner. It would be all that would suffice for the open minded.
Based on what evidence are you making your claim?

The Bible states…
Cush was the father of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said,“Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD.” The centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh in Shinar (Genesis 10:8-10). Cush lived in the “land of Shinar” which most scholars consider to be Sumer.

The first kingdom established after the Flood was Kish, and the name “Kish” appears often on clay tablets. The early post-Flood Sumerian king lists (not found in the Bible) say that “kingship descended from heaven to Kish” after the Flood.(The Hebrew name “Cush,” much later, was moved to present-day Ethiopia as migrations took place from Mesopotamia to other places.)

In Genesis 10:8-11 we learn that “Nimrod” established a kingdom. Therefore, one would expect to find also, in the literature of the ancient Near East, a person who was a type, or example, for other people to follow. And there was. It is a well-known tale, common in Sumerian literature, of a man who fits the description. In addition to the Sumerians, the Babylonians wrote about this person; the Assyrians likewise; and the Hittites. Even in Palestine, tablets have been found with this man's name on them. He was obviously the most popular hero in the Ancient Near East.

Because of the parallels between Gilgamesh and Nimrod, many scholars agree that Gilgamesh is Nimrod.“YaHWeH” has a somewhat similar sound to “Huwawa.” Gilgamesh did just as the “sons of god” in Genesis 6 did.

The “sons of god” forcibly took men's wives. The Epic says that is precisely what Gilgamesh did.

The Bible calls Nimrod a tyrant, and Gilgamesh was a tyrant.

There was a flood in the Bible; there is a flood in the Epic.

Cush is mentioned in the Bible, Kish in the Epic.

Erech is mentioned in Scripture; Uruk was Gilgamesh's city.

Gilgamesh made a trip to see the survivor of the Flood. This was more likely Ham than Noah, since “Nimrod” was Ham's grandson!

Historically, Gilgamesh was of the first dynasty of Uruk. As Jacobsen points out (1939: 157), kings before Gilgamesh may be fictional, but not likely. The fact that the Gilgamesh epic also contains the Deluge story would indicate a close link with events immediately following the Flood.

S.N. Kramer says,
A few years ago one would have strongly doubted his (historical) existence… we now have the certitude that the time of Gilgamesh corresponds to the earliest period of Mesopotamian history.(Kramer 1959: 117)

Read more at:
http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/nimrod...

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36731 Feb 5, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

With that in mind, let's examine the Qur'anic problem Muhammad was trying to solve. In the 41st verse of the 14th surah, we read, "Think not that Allah is oblivious.... Hastening forward, their heads upraised, their eyes staring aghast and their hearts vacant. Warn people of the day when the punishment shall be inflicted upon them. Then will the wicked say:'Lord, give us a respite,(so) we shall respond to Your call and follow the apostles.''What! did you not swear before (that) there will be no reverse for us!'" Evidently the inebriated eagles didn't have reverse either. Qur'an 14:46 "And they are plotting their plots, but their plan is evident to Allah, even though their plot is so adroit as to make the mountains move." So, there you have it. Muhammad needed to come up with a plot that was capable of making the mountains move for the Qur'an to make sense. The drunken eagle bit was perfect.

The surah that claims Allah isn't "oblivious" ends with these words: Qur'an 14:47 "Therefore do not think Allah will fail in His promise to His prophet; surely Allah is Mighty, the Lord of Retribution." That's pretty clear, and so is this: "On the day the earth shall be changed into a different earth...you will see the guilty bound together in chains. Their shirts will be made of molten pitch and the fire will cover their faces so that Allah may reward each soul." Why do a billion people worship such a sadistic "god?"

The Nimrodian Tradition continues to scuttle any last remnant of credibility Islam may have otherwise retained: Tabari II:108 "They took off from Jerusalem and they fell down in the Mountain of Smoke. When Nimrod saw that this method would accomplish nothing, he began building the tower - taller and taller. Then he voided excrement through it. Allah seized his building by its foundations and the roof fell down upon them and doom came upon them whence they knew not.[Qur'an 16:26]" Dare we poke through the excrement and find Allah’s little problem? Or do we just chalk this one up to diarrhea of the mouth?

To be continued

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