Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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#36627 Feb 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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That's religion for you,they have to provide exciting stories to keep their flocks enthralled in between prayer sessions.
It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
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Tempe, AZ

#36628 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
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#36629 Feb 2, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
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When you realize your religion along with all other religions are just a load of crap, you may become a better person.
Sky fairy stuff indeed
Do not tell Shielaa the Great that her Christianity is false. She might get a heart stroke and be admitted in her own hospital!

Say whatever you want to say about Islam, because that is the punching bag of these days, but NEVER criticise any other faith.

That is lesson # 1 on these threads!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36630 Feb 2, 2013
Tom wrote:
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?
MUQ, while you waffle on about things that happened 20 century's ago.
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No not what happened "only" 2000 years ago, things which have been happening "continuously for past 2000 years".

WW-1 and WW-2 is not 2000 years ago?

Atom Bomb attack on Japan is not 2000 years ago?

Vietnam War is not 2000 years ago?

Iraq and Afghanistan wars are not 2000 years ago?

Are they?

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#36632 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Do not tell Shielaa the Great that her Christianity is false. She might get a heart stroke and be admitted in her own hospital!
Say whatever you want to say about Islam, because that is the punching bag of these days, but NEVER criticise any other faith.
That is lesson # 1 on these threads!!

Lesson 1 on these threads is don't believe in what Saudi Indian Muslims say on this thread as they are hated even among their own and they have also betrayed their own.

Most Muslims despise the Saudi Muslims.

As can be seen they are experts at crying out victim and appealing to others like minded ratbags that they are
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Tempe, AZ

#36633 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Lesson 1 on these threads is don't believe in what Saudi Indian Muslims say on this thread as they are hated even among their own and they have also betrayed their own.
Most Muslims despise the Saudi Muslims.
As can be seen they are experts at crying out victim and appealing to others like minded ratbags that they are
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#36634 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
There is no evidence of a world wide flood from geological/archaeological inspection... Which is what the bible asserts.

Where, pray tell are the fossils that indicated a mass extinction of life? Palaeontologists should be swimming in these remains.

Science disproves such a notion as there would not be enough time to create the diversity and populace of the animals that exist today from that one ark. Especially mammals and other species that have low birth rates.

Unless of course you think Noah, lived among the time of the dinosaurs...... Which again would mean following the evidence of human technology blossoming and archaeological remains that he would struggle to build a tent much less built an engineering marvel that is the ark.

Unless it was describing a local flood happening around Mesopotamia... Which would be humorous no doubt as God has watched mass extinctions from the very existence of life beginning and done nothing and watched tsunamis and volcanoes massacre species and done nothing. And he cares for the camels and donkeys of Mesopotamia?

Most depressing is most of these stories have not encompassed the "teaching" and reason of the flood. Again... making the flood superfluous.

During in which, many "evil" civilisations/settlements already existed, spread out in Eurasia, Asia and Africa.

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#36635 Feb 2, 2013
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SandCastle

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#36636 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
Do you really think the ark could have fitted every species; two of a kind; male and female?

That ship must be the size of Australia and India combined!

What about those which had male and female organs?

How about the diversity that we see before us if Noah had to abandon certain animals.

If all animals unloaded themselves after the ark rested on land; why do we not see this diaspora. In fact we only see such a diaspora of "bridges" of animals from different continents that were once connected. We see this genetically, and the fact that the continents fit together like a jig saw. Again, imagine the mess if all these animals came from Noah's ark when all the landmass was joined.

We should be seeing a huge, massive concentration of these fossils at a particular area on earth; paleontologists only need to follow the breadcrumbs and get more and more fossils deposits per square metres and arrive at the supposed location.

And humans, the most intelligent and adaptable creatures.... Absolutely no fossil record, "archaeology" from this "civilised" culture which had developed complex language and mathematical accumen to measure the dimensions of these tiny ark to fit all the animals of earth.

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#36637 Feb 2, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
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There is no evidence of a world wide flood from geological/archaeological inspection... Which is what the bible asserts.
Where, pray tell are the fossils that indicated a mass extinction of life? Palaeontologists should be swimming in these remains.
Science disproves such a notion as there would not be enough time to create the diversity and populace of the animals that exist today from that one ark. Especially mammals and other species that have low birth rates.
Unless of course you think Noah, lived among the time of the dinosaurs...... Which again would mean following the evidence of human technology blossoming and archaeological remains that he would struggle to build a tent much less built an engineering marvel that is the ark.
Unless it was describing a local flood happening around Mesopotamia... Which would be humorous no doubt as God has watched mass extinctions from the very existence of life beginning and done nothing and watched tsunamis and volcanoes massacre species and done nothing. And he cares for the camels and donkeys of Mesopotamia?
Most depressing is most of these stories have not encompassed the "teaching" and reason of the flood. Again... making the flood superfluous.
During in which, many "evil" civilisations/settlements already existed, spread out in Eurasia, Asia and Africa.
http://www.icr.org/geological-strata/
Klink

Cameron, MO

#36638 Feb 2, 2013
Islamofascism

From Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
"Palestine" -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-al-Salaam'-- the Islamic House of Peace.
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/33Rlg/Islm/Sl...


Sharia Law 101
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Radical Islam
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#36639 Feb 2, 2013
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#36640 Feb 2, 2013
Yusuf wrote:
careful attacking muslims!!
akta manush tobou shudhu amar make noi, prithibir kono makei kono din amon nojore dekhi ni, ar shudhu ami na prithibir kono musolman sontano ta parbe na, apnara ashob jara bolecen tara abeger boshe ba ku prorochon
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Hey bro,say it in English

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#36641 Feb 2, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
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Do you really think the ark could have fitted every species; two of a kind; male and female?
That ship must be the size of Australia and India combined!
What about those which had male and female organs?
How about the diversity that we see before us if Noah had to abandon certain animals.
If all animals unloaded themselves after the ark rested on land; why do we not see this diaspora. In fact we only see such a diaspora of "bridges" of animals from different continents that were once connected. We see this genetically, and the fact that the continents fit together like a jig saw. Again, imagine the mess if all these animals came from Noah's ark when all the landmass was joined.
We should be seeing a huge, massive concentration of these fossils at a particular area on earth; paleontologists only need to follow the breadcrumbs and get more and more fossils deposits per square metres and arrive at the supposed location.
And humans, the most intelligent and adaptable creatures.... Absolutely no fossil record, "archaeology" from this "civilised" culture which had developed complex language and mathematical accumen to measure the dimensions of these tiny ark to fit all the animals of earth.
All I can tell you sandcastle is that I believe in the bible. I'm not asking you to. There is evidence to support its claims but at the end of the day it is your choice.

Show evidence to dispute your claim that it is incorrect. I can support and provide evidence that disputes what you say
Tom

Australia

#36642 Feb 2, 2013
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

Since when do you speak of recent times.

Do tell, what is this .....

"Islam's success story".......

you talk of ?

Or was that just an inane nonsense statement ?
The STINKYJuicylu Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36643 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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All I can tell you sandcastle is that I believe in the bible. I'm not asking you to. There is evidence to support its claims but at the end of the day it is your choice.
Show evidence to dispute your claim that it is incorrect. I can support and provide evidence that disputes what you say
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MUQ and his Taqiyya 1

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#36644 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ and his Taqiyya.
Part 1 of 2.

Any Muslim with even a cursory knowledge of Islam knows about the Mu'tazilites and their failed attempt to correct Islam from the false beliefs and pagan ideology still practiced today. 

The Mu'tazilite school of theology emerged from the Kharijites who questioned what is integral to faith or independent of faith. 

The Mu'tazilites adopted the position that someone who commits a grave sin without repenting occupies a state between being a Muslim and not being a Muslim. 
A second doctrine concerned the nature of God. God is pure Essence and, therefore, without eternal attributes such as hands. 

Passages in the Qur'an that ascribe human or physical properties to God are to be regarded as metaphorical rather than literal.

The Mu'tazilites stated the Qur'an was created i.e. man made and not eternal. The basis was that the false claim of eternal pre and coexistence of the Qur'an before and Allah is a essentially worship of a false god  beside Allah. 

They stated that Human acts are free and people are responsible for their decisions and actions. 
Divine predestination is incompatible with God's justice and human responsibility. 
Mu'tazilites are seen as responsible for the incorporation of logic and adoption into Islamic theology. 

This is particularly apparent in their belief that knowledge of God can be acquired through reason as well as revelation.
They stated Muhammad was just one of many (before and after) that received revelations.
They also stated Muhammad was imperfect, and large number of writings in the Quran attributed to him  were made were imperfect or without correct knowledge.
 Once better or more correct knowledge was available, or by later revelation  from Allah to others, Islam had a duty to Allah to absorb and adapt to  these messages. 
 
The term Mu'tazilah derives from the Arabic al-mu'tazilah, which means the one who separated. 
It was applied to the school established in Iraq by Wasil b.'Ata (699-749), a student of the distinguished scholar Hasn al-Basri (642-728). 
At the time of the rise of the 'Abbasids in 750 the Mu'tazilites became prominent in the Islamic world. 
In the 9th century the 'Abbasid caliph, al-Ma'mun, raised Mu'tazilah doctrine to the status to control of the religious  creed. 
3 Caliphates for 30 years ruled Islam with Mu'tazilah doctrine in the 9th century.
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The  Mu'tazilites' power was eroded by fundamentalists or traditionists who had previously built up a massive clerical authority and business  in ruling that every aspect of the Quran or interpretative haddeths were 'divine and literal' rather than metaphor and interpretation. 

It was this clerical resistance to a simpler and more adaptive Islam - where the muslim could communicate directly to his god and follow simple common beliefs, that proved the undoing of the Mu'tazilah. 

In the 10th century the Traditionist (Sunni majority) opposition to Mu'tazilah found a spokesman in Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari (d.935), who himself had previously been a Mu'tazilite. 
He betrayed the Mu'tazilite movement allowing the traditionists to take control and revert back to a structure of a clerical elite defining and interpreting the Quran as a divine eternal literal set of rules rather than a set of principles on which Islam could evolve.
MUQ and his Taqiyya 2

Australia

#36645 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ and his Taqiyya 
Part 2 of 2.

Most of the structural and ideological issues that beset Islam today originate from this failed attempt to correct and evolve Islam to societal change. 

In the 21st century, Allah and Islam now sits very oddly with practices and beliefs that were clearly prescribed for 7th century Arab society. 

Allah sits equal and constrained by Muhammad's interpretations and knowledge at the time, which was incomplete or incorrect in many aspects, especially in relation to an incorrect interpretation of  judaistic faith  on which Islam is largely based, as well as a highly distorted and incorrect view of Christianity and other religions at the time. 

Islam after the traditionists reversion  denied  itself any update or revelation from Allah leading to a later structural failure of Islam as many thousands of haadeeths often contradictory or at cross purposes scrambled and confused the Islamic  belief system as various different societies evolved. 

 Islam no longer has any structural or logical basis on which to incorporate and adapt central and common beliefs from inside out (eg unlike Christianity or Judaism which have a process of revelation and man made decisions on core principles and beliefs). 

Islam was already suffering from a major schism (sunni v shiia) as to elected or bloodline authority. 
After the 10th century Islam then began to fragment into  ethnic and geographical 'versions' of Islam.

 Thus the Islam practiced in South Asia or India & Bangladesh, Persian or Arab regions today is substantially different in practice or interpretation of the many tens of thousands of added or invented "rules" layered over the  Quran.

Fundamentalist, radicalised jihadist, nationalist, socialist and revisionist pressures added to fragmentation to create regional, nation state and political variants, further splintering of islam.

Today there is little commonality or consistency between the many hundreds of variants of Islam. 

Core beliefs such as equality, a common truth, worship, tribute, what is or is not a sin, punishment, incorporation of pagan or non Islamic beliefs and values, have been overridden to create a series of competing Islamic beliefs at odds with each other. 

This is the failure of Islam. 
It's inability to apply logic and structure or to evolve.
As the world Muslim community  becomes better informed with access to information and knowledge outside of a clerical elite then many find their faith and belief system wanting and requiring a reformation as the Mu'tazilah's attempted in the 9th century. 

What say you now MUQ to the valid claim that Islam itself attempted to fix itself and failed.
Leaving you with your archaic and false beliefs about Islam and other religions ? 
Dash

Australia

#36646 Feb 3, 2013
Brilliant !

This is the best explanation I have ever seen on what's wrong with Islam and why it should be feared...

Everyone knows it's crooked and has been hijacked by the mullahs & the clerics.

Now we know how and why.
Islam did try and failed, the ignorant with the backing of the corrupted clerics won to turn Islamic back into the dark ages.

Every Muslim should read the posts above, and weep that they are victims of such nonsense in what they are forced to believe today.

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They should go to the mosque and demand why such knowledge is denied to them...

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#36647 Feb 3, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
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Do you really think the ark could have fitted every species; two of a kind; male and female?
That ship must be the size of Australia and India combined!
What about those which had male and female organs?
How about the diversity that we see before us if Noah had to abandon certain animals.
If all animals unloaded themselves after the ark rested on land; why do we not see this diaspora. In fact we only see such a diaspora of "bridges" of animals from different continents that were once connected. We see this genetically, and the fact that the continents fit together like a jig saw. Again, imagine the mess if all these animals came from Noah's ark when all the landmass was joined.
We should be seeing a huge, massive concentration of these fossils at a particular area on earth; paleontologists only need to follow the breadcrumbs and get more and more fossils deposits per square metres and arrive at the supposed location.
And humans, the most intelligent and adaptable creatures.... Absolutely no fossil record, "archaeology" from this "civilised" culture which had developed complex language and mathematical accumen to measure the dimensions of these tiny ark to fit all the animals of earth.
You either have to decide that you are going to believe in God or not. What we are unable to comprehend, does not mean that from God's point of view is impossible. I can't explain it any other way

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