Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Sheilaa

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#36617 Feb 2, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

"Dahhak/Nimrod built a city in Babylon called Harb [War]. He made Nabateans his couriers. The people were subjected to every kind of pressure, and he slew young boys." In continuing with the similarities between Nimrod and Muhammad, you should know that the prophet pressured Arabs to submit to Islam. Those who didn't were slain. Bukhari:V4B52N260 "The Prophet said,'If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'" Some would consider that "pressure."

In upcoming volumes of Tabari's History and in Ishaq's Sira we will be regaled with Hadith showing Muhammad murdering young boys. In one shameful episode he decapitated an entire tribe, slaughtering every boy over the age of twelve. The Muslim historians are making up these Nimrod myths in order to make Muhammad’s murderous behavior appear normal.

To give this tall tale a religious slant, the Traditions wove Noah into the plot. This plagiarized, albeit twisted, account proclaims: Tabari II:11 "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks." Then after being told that "Noah slept with his genitals exposed," we learn: "Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks." I wonder if Louis Farrakhan knows this? Probably not - he was too busy corrupting the sniper Muhammad.

We have finally arrived at the real point of the Nimrod stories: Tabari II:18 "Nimrod was the son of Cush bin Canaan bin Ham bin Noah. He was the lord of Babylon and of Abraham." Muslims were on solid ground so long as they stuck to the Biblical account, but the moment they left it, they buried themselves. Nimrod died seven hundred years before Abraham was born. And Muhammad told us that Canaan died in the flood.

The actual history of the city-states of Babylon, Nineveh, and Ur is fascinating. This is where the stylus first met the tablet. It is out of the land of the Babylonians, Assyrians, and Chaldeans that recorded history began. It was here that the first laws were written, the first business was conducted, the first armies marched, the first students were taught, and the first sermons were preached. Their sermons and swords ultimately shaped the world - even unto our present day. Islam was derived in part from an offshoot of the religious scam concocted by Nimrod in Babylon. The original religion of Abraham in nearby Ur was based upon a derivative masculine moon deity named "Sin." Moon-god shrines like the Ka'aba were erected to him all over Arabia with rites that mirrored those invented in Babylon.

The people of the Fertile Crescent turned the sun, moon, and stars into gods and exported them at swordpoint. The constellations and planets were studied, and astrologists began the occult religions equating their movements to human behavior. This was the first time the masses were subjected to the will of cleric and king by way of divine right. It would not be the last.

Many of Catholicism's rituals, festivals, and doctrines were derived from Nimrod. The devotion to the virgin with child, priests as intermediaries between god and man, the celebration of Christmas, Lent, and Easter are but a few examples of religious trappings from Babylon, not the Bible.

To be continued

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36618 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
So you have to provide "apology" for every action that Christians did in the wars?
You apparently forget the point of discussion, it was that Jesus preached "turn the other Cheek"…..while the prophet Mohammad taught that "Hit the one who slaps you on the cheeck"
Seen in that light, the Christians would have been turning "the Other Cheek" whenever they are hit, but we "never" seen them being in practice.
They hit back and they cause many times more damage than what was done to them, and still they claim "Copy right" on "Turning the other cheek".
And they always accuse islam and prophet of islam for inserting that "barbarism" as part of their religion.
point is that these teachings like "Love your enemy" and "Turn the Other Cheek" look good at a press copy, but they can "never" be the basis of any civilization. They are against human nature to be made as Fundamental articles of your Policy.
Like some learned western Scholar said "When I compare the simple teachings of Jesus and compare it with the teachings of Prophet of Islam, the picture is like a small boy speaking in front of a Experienced and Learned man who has seen the world"
Islamic teachings of rape are very clear. Death to the rapist and death to the adulterer and adulteress.
Mohammad not only taught slap the cheek as opposed to Jesus saying turn the cheek he willfully attacked innocent groups of people just because they rejected his teachings and because of his greed and lust for power. This is the reason that the koran verses towards Jews and Christians have been abrogated. If Allah were a true God there would be no need for abrogating the koran in the first place.

The perceived goodness of Islam is an allusion. If Islam gravitates towards good, then why is it that in Pakistan for example a Muslim dominated country with about 150 million Muslims only one million of them file their taxes annually.

Why is it also that the majority of the world's refugee spill out of Muslim dominated countries in the hope of a better life for they and their families in the west?

You constantly harp on the past and yet never acknowledge the present. In prophecy it states that the anti christ will come to try and destroy the true God and his saints. This prophecy has already commenced as can be seem by Islamists around the world killing innocent people and it will get worse before Jesus comes back and stamps out the counterfeit "religion" of Islam

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36619 Feb 2, 2013
For a quarter century we have seen the foundations of our society weakened and the keystone for future generations, the family unit, is now in disarray. Beneath us is the quicksand of family disintegration, welfare dependency and a culture centred on self.

Consecutive governments have increased spending, yet the social decline continues. It is time to accept that the ideologies that have shaped our society and driven much of our policy in recent times have been found wanting. The evidence is overwhelming...

But imagine an Australia built on strong families, caring for one another and for their communities. A country of responsible, compassionate citizens of good character who demand excellence. A place where your children and your grandchildren live freely and safely. Such a country is within our reach. All it takes is for passionate, patriotic Australians to become informed and to get active.

If we look at all the things that have helped our great country to survive for these past 200 years we see that three main principles have endured through thick and thin. These must be protected at all costs, and they are listed below:

The Lifelong Family
Intergenerational families are the present-day building blocks on which our future is based. The family and the web of kinship that surrounds it is the best environment for nurturing people of character. Genuine communities flow from the commitment of mothers and fathers to their children and grandchildren.
Freedom With Responsibility
Responsible individuals understand and accept the consequences of their decisions. Freedom is anchored in self-control and respect for each other.
Balancing the role of government in our lives
Individuals and families committed to each other's welfare create the fabric of a thriving community. Central government's role is to provide a legal and economic environment that encourages free and responsible family and community behaviour.

Read and here more at:

http://www.austnewnation.org/mission/

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36620 Feb 2, 2013
It has been reveled in a July 4, 1998 news story that CAIR co-founder Omar Ahmad stated:

Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Lisa Gardiner, San Ramon Valley Herald,‘American Muslim leader urges faithful to spread Islam’s message,’ July 4, 1998

IS ANYONE STARTING TO SEE THE PICTURE??????????

Since: Oct 12

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#36621 Feb 2, 2013
WE MUST FIGHT!!! ALL ATHIEST, CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, HINDUISM, BUDDISHM ALL OF US WILL DIE!!!!!! FIGHT NOW OR DIE LATER AND THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!
ARAB WHOSE PRACTICE THESE RELIGION WOULD BEHEAD ALL OF US NON BELIEVERS!!!n
Tom

Australia

#36622 Feb 2, 2013
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

MUQ, while you waffle on about things that happened 20 century's ago.

Quote
"ignoring Islam's success story and hiding your own's failures"
Islams success ?
Like this?

http://dawn.com/2013/01/29/car-bombing-in-yem...
Correct me if I'm wrong,

In islam
1. Weekly bombings
2. Sunni and Shiite sworn enemy's
3. Mass Weekly riots
4. Child labour and child homosexual slavery
5. Women sexual discrimination
6. Ancient racist hatreds
7. Starvation
8. Schools destroyed
9. Muslims fleeing to christian nations in the tens of thousands.

I know the current issues and the truth is not what you like to discuss.

Do tell, what is this ....."Islam's success story"....... you talk of ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36623 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
http://prophetofdoom.net/Proph et_of_Doom_03_I_Dont_Noah_Bout _This.Islam
"Dahhak/Nimrod built a city in Babylon called Harb [War]. He made Nabateans his couriers. The people were subjected to every kind of pressure, and he slew young boys." In continuing with the similarities between Nimrod and Muhammad, you should know that the prophet pressured Arabs to submit to Islam. Those who didn't were slain. Bukhari:V4B52N260 "The Prophet said,'If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'" Some would consider that "pressure."
In upcoming volumes of Tabari's History and in Ishaq's Sira we will be regaled with Hadith showing Muhammad murdering young boys. In one shameful episode he decapitated an entire tribe, slaughtering every boy over the age of twelve. The Muslim historians are making up these Nimrod myths in order to make Muhammad’s murderous behavior appear normal.
To give this tall tale a religious slant, the Traditions wove Noah into the plot. This plagiarized, albeit twisted, account proclaims: Tabari II:11 "Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks." Then after being told that "Noah slept with his genitals exposed," we learn: "Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks." I wonder if Louis Farrakhan knows this? Probably not - he was too busy corrupting the sniper Muhammad.
We have finally arrived at the real point of the Nimrod stories: Tabari II:18 "Nimrod was the son of Cush bin Canaan bin Ham bin Noah. He was the lord of Babylon and of Abraham." Muslims were on solid ground so long as they stuck to the Biblical account, but the moment they left it, they buried themselves. Nimrod died seven hundred years before Abraham was born. And Muhammad told us that Canaan died in the flood.
The actual history of the city-states of Babylon, Nineveh, and Ur is fascinating. This is where the stylus first met the tablet. It is out of the land of the Babylonians, Assyrians, and Chaldeans that recorded history began. It was here that the first laws were written, the first business was conducted, the first armies marched, the first students were taught, and the first sermons were preached. Their sermons and swords ultimately shaped the world - even unto our present day. Islam was derived in part from an offshoot of the religious scam concocted by Nimrod in Babylon. The original religion of Abraham in nearby Ur was based upon a derivative masculine moon deity named "Sin." Moon-god shrines like the Ka'aba were erected to him all over Arabia with rites that mirrored those invented in Babylon.
The people of the Fertile Crescent turned the sun, moon, and stars into gods and exported them at swordpoint. The constellations and planets were studied, and astrologists began the occult religions equating their movements to human behavior. This was the first time the masses were subjected to the will of cleric and king by way of divine right. It would not be the last.
Many of Catholicism's rituals, festivals, and doctrines were derived from Nimrod. The devotion to the virgin with child, priests as intermediaries between god and man, the celebration of Christmas, Lent, and Easter are but a few examples of religious trappings from Babylon, not the Bible.
To be continued
Interesting that the Babylonians had their own version of Noah and his flood

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36625 Feb 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting that the Babylonians had their own version of Noah and his flood
Mankind takes God's truth and uses or abuses it for his own gains. God's word never changes unlike His word in the koran

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#36626 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Mankind takes God's truth and uses or abuses it for his own gains. God's word never changes unlike His word in the koran
That's religion for you,they have to provide exciting stories to keep their flocks enthralled in between prayer sessions.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36627 Feb 2, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
That's religion for you,they have to provide exciting stories to keep their flocks enthralled in between prayer sessions.
It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
The RATCHittfiers

Tempe, AZ

#36628 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36629 Feb 2, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
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When you realize your religion along with all other religions are just a load of crap, you may become a better person.
Sky fairy stuff indeed
Do not tell Shielaa the Great that her Christianity is false. She might get a heart stroke and be admitted in her own hospital!

Say whatever you want to say about Islam, because that is the punching bag of these days, but NEVER criticise any other faith.

That is lesson # 1 on these threads!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#36630 Feb 2, 2013
Tom wrote:
Why should Australians fear from Muslims?
MUQ, while you waffle on about things that happened 20 century's ago.
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..
No not what happened "only" 2000 years ago, things which have been happening "continuously for past 2000 years".

WW-1 and WW-2 is not 2000 years ago?

Atom Bomb attack on Japan is not 2000 years ago?

Vietnam War is not 2000 years ago?

Iraq and Afghanistan wars are not 2000 years ago?

Are they?

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36632 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Do not tell Shielaa the Great that her Christianity is false. She might get a heart stroke and be admitted in her own hospital!
Say whatever you want to say about Islam, because that is the punching bag of these days, but NEVER criticise any other faith.
That is lesson # 1 on these threads!!

Lesson 1 on these threads is don't believe in what Saudi Indian Muslims say on this thread as they are hated even among their own and they have also betrayed their own.

Most Muslims despise the Saudi Muslims.

As can be seen they are experts at crying out victim and appealing to others like minded ratbags that they are
The STINKYJuicylu Busters

Tempe, AZ

#36633 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Lesson 1 on these threads is don't believe in what Saudi Indian Muslims say on this thread as they are hated even among their own and they have also betrayed their own.
Most Muslims despise the Saudi Muslims.
As can be seen they are experts at crying out victim and appealing to others like minded ratbags that they are
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SandCastle

Telopea, Australia

#36634 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
There is no evidence of a world wide flood from geological/archaeological inspection... Which is what the bible asserts.

Where, pray tell are the fossils that indicated a mass extinction of life? Palaeontologists should be swimming in these remains.

Science disproves such a notion as there would not be enough time to create the diversity and populace of the animals that exist today from that one ark. Especially mammals and other species that have low birth rates.

Unless of course you think Noah, lived among the time of the dinosaurs...... Which again would mean following the evidence of human technology blossoming and archaeological remains that he would struggle to build a tent much less built an engineering marvel that is the ark.

Unless it was describing a local flood happening around Mesopotamia... Which would be humorous no doubt as God has watched mass extinctions from the very existence of life beginning and done nothing and watched tsunamis and volcanoes massacre species and done nothing. And he cares for the camels and donkeys of Mesopotamia?

Most depressing is most of these stories have not encompassed the "teaching" and reason of the flood. Again... making the flood superfluous.

During in which, many "evil" civilisations/settlements already existed, spread out in Eurasia, Asia and Africa.

Sheilaa

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#36635 Feb 2, 2013
The STINKYJuicylu Busters wrote:
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Thank you. In response I will tell you it will never be successful. Now move along and do something useful with your lives, like supporting my posts. LOL
SandCastle

Telopea, Australia

#36636 Feb 2, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It has nothing to do with keeping the flocks enthralled and everything to do with bringing the truth to someone. Don't you think it strange that so many groups have a story to tell in relation to the flood? Have you ever considered that they are based on the original story from the bible?
Do you really think the ark could have fitted every species; two of a kind; male and female?

That ship must be the size of Australia and India combined!

What about those which had male and female organs?

How about the diversity that we see before us if Noah had to abandon certain animals.

If all animals unloaded themselves after the ark rested on land; why do we not see this diaspora. In fact we only see such a diaspora of "bridges" of animals from different continents that were once connected. We see this genetically, and the fact that the continents fit together like a jig saw. Again, imagine the mess if all these animals came from Noah's ark when all the landmass was joined.

We should be seeing a huge, massive concentration of these fossils at a particular area on earth; paleontologists only need to follow the breadcrumbs and get more and more fossils deposits per square metres and arrive at the supposed location.

And humans, the most intelligent and adaptable creatures.... Absolutely no fossil record, "archaeology" from this "civilised" culture which had developed complex language and mathematical accumen to measure the dimensions of these tiny ark to fit all the animals of earth.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

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#36637 Feb 2, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no evidence of a world wide flood from geological/archaeological inspection... Which is what the bible asserts.
Where, pray tell are the fossils that indicated a mass extinction of life? Palaeontologists should be swimming in these remains.
Science disproves such a notion as there would not be enough time to create the diversity and populace of the animals that exist today from that one ark. Especially mammals and other species that have low birth rates.
Unless of course you think Noah, lived among the time of the dinosaurs...... Which again would mean following the evidence of human technology blossoming and archaeological remains that he would struggle to build a tent much less built an engineering marvel that is the ark.
Unless it was describing a local flood happening around Mesopotamia... Which would be humorous no doubt as God has watched mass extinctions from the very existence of life beginning and done nothing and watched tsunamis and volcanoes massacre species and done nothing. And he cares for the camels and donkeys of Mesopotamia?
Most depressing is most of these stories have not encompassed the "teaching" and reason of the flood. Again... making the flood superfluous.
During in which, many "evil" civilisations/settlements already existed, spread out in Eurasia, Asia and Africa.
http://www.icr.org/geological-strata/
Klink

Plattsburg, MO

#36638 Feb 2, 2013
Islamofascism

From Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
"Palestine" -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-al-Salaam'-- the Islamic House of Peace.
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/33Rlg/Islm/Sl...


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Radical Islam
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