Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46812 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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sid

Brisbane, Australia

#36562 Jan 30, 2013
As a muslim MUQ you have truely mastered the art of Taqiyya.

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#36563 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I really feel "flattered" when you say, I am the "world's ONLY true Muslim".....but have you seen my actions? No way, you have only seen my posts on these thread.
How can you make such a big claim by just seeing my posts.
I know that no one can be a perfect Muslim having done no action that goes against Islam, that is not possible.
But on a practical level, we have role models in the conducts of our Prophet, his Companions and those who came after them. On individual level, millions of Muslims try to follow these examples.
But when it comes to as a society or group, there is not a single Muslim country that follows Islam in all of its teachings.
There are some departments or areas, where they do not want Islamic teachings to be applied. Most important of these relate to Politics and Economy.
There is hardly any ruler of any Muslim country, who would present himself under Islamic laws on his own conduct and living. They would lecture others but would never allow their own lives and their financial gains to be looked into.
They would try every trick to hang to power and disregard the views of public who wants them out of power. The conflicts we see in most Muslim countries is tussle between Rulers to hang on to power versus their opponents who want them out.
I did not criticise any individual Muslim of not following Islam, but the Nations of not being Islamic. There is difference between the two.
When speaking of leaders do you mean Islamic in name only to garner the support of the inhabitants leading to a long and fruitful life in power ?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36564 Jan 30, 2013
wrote:
1.

Well lets look at it this way, If God wanted the Muslims to have Israel, why cant 1.5 billion Muslims, with the help of Allah, kick out a few million Jews?

I mean Allah and 1.5 BILLION MUSLIMS??

I think God is saying something, but you are just not listening.

2.

Actually there are only 900 million Catholics

and there is one country run 100% along catholic beliefs, its call the Vatican City.

Get you facts right stupid.

3.

I keep hearing how there is no one following the true Islam, yet it no one is doing that, how would YOU know? If it is so hard to understand, that must mean you Allah is not that smart? If he was smart he would not have made so many mistakes in the Qu'ran?
So do you blame Allah for being stupid?

Or maybe you are stupid? Or maybe all Muslims are stupid? Who are you blaming? Surely not Allah, because in the Qu'ran it says all things are ordained by Allah, So allah has F**ked up pretty bad hasnt he?

Well MUQ?
Ans.

01. If that was the case, then we can say:

a. God wanted those 6 million Jews to die at the hand of Nazis?

b. God wanted that Jews be persecuted by Christians for past 2000 years?

You get confused between what God allows to happen versus what God likes.

You are right, God is saying to Muslims "This is the depth to which you have fallen by not becoming true Muslims, do you want to improve or continue your slide to lower depths"?

02. Do not belittle Catholics, they claim to be more than 2.0 Billions.

So you are deluded to consider Vatican as a Nation? Have you seen a tiger in a zoo cage? Is he really a tiger or show piece? That is Vatican as a "country" for you!!

03. On individual levels there might be millions of Muslims who try to be honest and follow Islamic teachings into their personal level, but as a nation, there is not even a single Muslim country, which follows Islam in all its working.

a. It is NEWS to me that there are mistakes in Quran. It is the false standards that you use to judge Quran.

b. Allah has given humans freedom to act, and that is why we see so much injustice in the world.

c. If the human life on earth was not a test, only angels be living on this earth.

d. I know you are too puffed up to know this "little difference" between what Happens on this Earth and what Allah likes.
Jeff

Australia

#36566 Jan 30, 2013

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#36567 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. If that was the case, then we can say:
a. God wanted those 6 million Jews to die at the hand of Nazis?
b. God wanted that Jews be persecuted by Christians for past 2000 years?
You get confused between what God allows to happen versus what God likes.
You are right, God is saying to Muslims "This is the depth to which you have fallen by not becoming true Muslims, do you want to improve or continue your slide to lower depths"?
02. Do not belittle Catholics, they claim to be more than 2.0 Billions.
So you are deluded to consider Vatican as a Nation? Have you seen a tiger in a zoo cage? Is he really a tiger or show piece? That is Vatican as a "country" for you!!
03. On individual levels there might be millions of Muslims who try to be honest and follow Islamic teachings into their personal level, but as a nation, there is not even a single Muslim country, which follows Islam in all its working.
a. It is NEWS to me that there are mistakes in Quran. It is the false standards that you use to judge Quran.
b. Allah has given humans freedom to act, and that is why we see so much injustice in the world.
c. If the human life on earth was not a test, only angels be living on this earth.
d. I know you are too puffed up to know this "little difference" between what Happens on this Earth and what Allah likes.
Hello MUQ the Vatican represents Catholics who act like Catholics do all their lives much the same as Muslims but the difference being they moved on and evolved as society did and framed themselves as superior in life and in death .
The Pope is their supreme being on this earth who fills their minds with hope for a future and is mobbed everywhere he goes so I ask of you what have you got within Islam that could come anywhere near the Pope and that of the Catholics ?
The Vatican hold more power than you could ever hope to understand and they do this from the smallest country in the world.

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AUSTRALIAN

#36568 Jan 30, 2013
The Fixers wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not interested:
PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR Neville FUCKTURD TurdBender F*CKWIT sIndian, YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), ROMEO TINY inferior midget turds, Rupert PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF, PLAGIARIZER, ROBBER and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs
NEVER RETURN
Dimwit,hehehe

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Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36570 Jan 30, 2013
The Fixers wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not interested:
PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR Neville FUCKTURD TurdBender F*CKWIT sIndian.
YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), ROMEO TINY inferior midget turds, Rupert PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF, PLAGIARIZER, ROBBER and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs
NEVER RETURN
You were very interested before .
Is spamming us all get a bit much for your program ,delete program
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36571 Jan 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello MUQ the Vatican represents Catholics who act like Catholics do all their lives much the same as Muslims but the difference being they moved on and evolved as society did and framed themselves as superior in life and in death .
The Pope is their supreme being on this earth who fills their minds with hope for a future and is mobbed everywhere he goes so I ask of you what have you got within Islam that could come anywhere near the Pope and that of the Catholics ?
The Vatican hold more power than you could ever hope to understand and they do this from the smallest country in the world.
I know Vatican has much more power than any one can appreciate.

That is why Pope has apologized to Jews for their mistreatment.

Pope has apologized to Muslims for Crusade wars.

Pope has apologized to people was sexual misconduct of priests and bishops and financial bungling of men of God.

Pope can do "nothing" but issue statements "condemning" Divorce, Abortion, Sodomy and Lesbian relationships.

Pope will see "women" and "Sodomite" and "lesbian" preachers and priest before he is dead.

Christianity "has" toe evolve because it is not perfect.

I Know Vatican is the "Most Powerful Country" of the world?

It makes a good public copy!! The buildings and surroundings are marvelous.

All these beautiful dresses, musics, smiling faces can deceive any one.... have you ever tried to see "behind" these smiling faces? Try and you shall find out!!
Serpent

Honolulu, HI

#36572 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
All these beautiful dresses, musics, smiling faces can deceive any one.... have you ever tried to see "behind" these smiling faces? Try and you shall find out!!
Oh wise muslim one, why don't you tell us what we will find out if we look behind these smiling faces???

You stupid barbaric Muslims, you have no beauty in your culture, no dance, no music, no laughter, no theater, no sports, no such equivalent of Olympics, no volunteering to help other nations in times of disasters, etc etc etc
Your just a bunch of ignorant barbarians who like to have four wives to make yourself feel important. You Muslims are a waste of humanity!!
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36573 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I really feel "flattered" when you say, I am the "world's ONLY true Muslim".....but have you seen my actions? No way, you have only seen my posts on these thread.
How can you make such a big claim by just seeing my posts.
I know that no one can be a perfect Muslim having done no action that goes against Islam, that is not possible.
But on a practical level, we have role models in the conducts of our Prophet, his Companions and those who came after them. On individual level, millions of Muslims try to follow these examples.
But when it comes to as a society or group, there is not a single Muslim country that follows Islam in all of its teachings.
There are some departments or areas, where they do not want Islamic teachings to be applied. Most important of these relate to Politics and Economy.
There is hardly any ruler of any Muslim country, who would present himself under Islamic laws on his own conduct and living. They would lecture others but would never allow their own lives and their financial gains to be looked into.
They would try every trick to hang to power and disregard the views of public who wants them out of power. The conflicts we see in most Muslim countries is tussle between Rulers to hang on to power versus their opponents who want them out.
I did not criticise any individual Muslim of not following islam, but the Nations of not being Islamic. There is difference between the two.
Ok, so we agree that not only other religions followers fall from the rightous path but muslims also falter from there path, but answer me this.

Why is it only muslims who are beheading people all around the world ? in all islamic nations there are constantly reports and news articals of muslims cutting off peoples heads....why, there are no reports of christian or buddahs or other religions cutting off peoples heads.

Why are there no reports of islamic mosques being burned down by christians in any country but there are daily reports of churches being burnt down by muslims....even in christian countries? why do only muslims do this ?

Why is the concept of family honour killing practised in muslm sociaties only ? we never see this in christian countries except when a muslim does this ? why ?

Why do muslims throw acid in to the faces of girls who refuse to marry them ? why do muslims kill girls who desire an education ? none of these things happen in christian countries , why ?

When any of the muslims mentioned above are asked to justify there evil deeds they site words straight out of your koran as justification. how can your divine book mislead som many of your followers around the world ?

Why would your god write a book so confusing that even your most educated scholars cant agree on the perfect path.

islam is currently graceing the people of africa, why isen`t it enriching there lives and bringing out the best in human nature ?

Why instead is it resposable for some of the worse attrociaties they`ve ever endured ?

Why didnt mohummed preach turn the other cheek like Jesus did? you know why that is such an important message ?

Jesus said always turn the other cheek and not to sin or do any acts of voilence in his defence, by saying this Jesus ensured that if in the future anyone was to do a cartoon insulting him he ensured christians wouldnt go killing people in his name.

Now look at mohummed who never preached this message, instead your followers take it upon themselves to kill innocent people over a silly cartoon......what an insult your prophet.

islam has failed humanity gravly MUQ, muslims have failed islam.
Rosa Winkel

Australia

#36574 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ To Answer Please wrote:
MUQ Mali case study of Islam.
French forces have taken all the key towns that were occupied by Islamic militants.
Unopposed.
Amid scenes of wild celebration, the liberation of Mali from Islamic sharia jihadist's sets the scene for further liberation of Islamic terror.
Iniitally the islamucic jihadist's were welcomed by the locals as develoment of the promises of islam. However after months of terror and
violence the local population regretted their acoomodating of the Islamists who resorted to extreme measures dictated by the Quran and Islamic law. Dress, tv, phones, food, social interaction, corruption and bullying quickly became systemic organized religious violence
waged against the mali people.
The western forces have now removed this reign of terror.
As the Islamists retreat they destroyed many cultural icons and heritage of Mali in a demonstation of spite and gross defiling of any history or religious beliefs they did not agree with.
MUQ - what say you now to the peaceful and serene values of Islam including toleration of other culture values and beliefs.
Mali as per many others demonstrates most clearly the Taqiyya practiced by islamist and that
being a muslim is either to be a subjugator of others or a victim.
Beyond any doubt is the violent and non tolerant nature of Islam by example.
This is why the world fears Islam.
It sounds like an African Taliban.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36575 Jan 30, 2013
Victoria's peak Muslim body lashes out at 'hysterical' objections to mosques

John Masanauskas
Herald Sun
January 30, 2013 12:00AM

VICTORIA'S peak Muslim body has lashed out at "hysterical" objections whenever plans for mosques go before local councils.

Islamic Council of Victoria board member Nazeem Hussain said there was an underlying level of Islamophobia in society and Muslims had to do more to educate people about their religion and mosque proposals.

"People are clearly fearful of Muslims and Islam, and it's easy to create that fear and hysteria in some ways," Mr Hussain said.

Read more at:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/vic...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36576 Jan 30, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

The Genesis account of Abraham begins in the 12th chapter. Itís a wonderful story about Yahweh's relationship with man and his covenant with his people. It is also prophetic, warning us about the character of Ishmael and his descendants: "He will be a wild ass of a man. His hand will be against his brother and his brother's hand will be against him. And he will live in hostility with all the world." Sounds like tomorrow's newspaper, doesn't it?

The Islamic version of Abraham unfolds with these words: Tabari II:49 "Most of the earlier sages have said that Abraham was born during the era of Nimrod bin Cush, while most historians say that Nimrod was an official of Azdahaq. Some have asserted that Noah was sent to Nimrod, against Babylon. We have been told't ough Allah knows best't at Dahhak was Nimrod and that Abraham was born during his days, and that Nimrod was his master who wanted to burn him." I beg to differ with the Muslim sages. But since nothing they have said thus far has made any sense, why start now?

I suppose you'd like to know who Azdahaq, Nimrod, and Dahhak are. While Nimrod is mentioned in the Bible, I'll defer to the Muslims with regard to Azdahaq. They say, Tabari II:3 "Qarishat was tyrannical. One day he became engrossed in thought...Allah transformed him into Azdahaq. He had seven heads and was the one who lived on the highest mountain in Iran. All the historians, both Arab and Persian, claim that he ruled over every clime and that he was a wicked sorcerer."

So with that cleared up, lets see what the Islamic scholars have to say about Dahhak, whom they believe to be Nimrod. "Dahhak reigned for one-thousand years after Jam - but Allah knows better. He ruled over all the earth, displaying tyranny and oppression. He killed excessively and was the first to enact the punishments of crucifixion and mutilation.[I don't know about mutilation, but crucifixion was developed by the Assyrians and perfected by the Romans.] He was the first to levy tithes [religious tax] and to mint dirhams." If Dahhak was Nimrod, the great Babylonian king, he was a murdering tyrant. He was also creative. According to the archeological evidence, Nimrod and his wife Semiramis invented the pagan practices that grew to become the basis of Egyptian, Greek, and Roman mythology. His Mystery Babylon religion strongly influenced Hinduism, Islam, and Catholicism. Nimrod is credited with building the first temples, hiring the first clerics, and establishing the first rituals. He was the first to fleece the flock and to control a population via a religious scam. Muhammad would have looked up to Nimrod as a role model.

To be continued

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36577 Jan 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I know Vatican has much more power than any one can appreciate.
That is why Pope has apologized to Jews for their mistreatment.
Pope has apologized to Muslims for Crusade wars.
Pope has apologized to people was sexual misconduct of priests and bishops and financial bungling of men of God.
Pope can do "nothing" but issue statements "condemning" Divorce, Abortion, Sodomy and Lesbian relationships.
Pope will see "women" and "Sodomite" and "lesbian" preachers and priest before he is dead.
Christianity "has" toe evolve because it is not perfect.
I Know Vatican is the "Most Powerful Country" of the world?
It makes a good public copy!! The buildings and surroundings are marvelous.
All these beautiful dresses, musics, smiling faces can deceive any one.... have you ever tried to see "behind" these smiling faces? Try and you shall find out!!
Been there done that and didn't see any smiling faces but then again I have been to Muslim countries and didn't see any thing those people had to smile about either.
Everything you report of them happens in Muslim countries so I would say you are both even.
MalbarCACA Controller

UK

#36578 Jan 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there done that and didn't see any smiling faces but then again I have been to Muslim countries and didn't see any thing those people had to smile about either.
Everything you report of them happens in Muslim countries so I would say you are both even.
Dimwit,hehehe

YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), ROMEO TINY inferior midget turds, Rupert PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase, a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF, PLAGIARIZER, ROBBER and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs.

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR Neville Lamerde FUCKTURD TurdBender F*CKWIT sIndian.

NEVER RETURN
jason

Melbourne, Australia

#36579 Jan 31, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Victoria's peak Muslim body lashes out at 'hysterical' objections to mosques
John Masanauskas
Herald Sun
January 30, 2013 12:00AM
VICTORIA'S peak Muslim body has lashed out at "hysterical" objections whenever plans for mosques go before local councils.
Islamic Council of Victoria board member Nazeem Hussain said there was an underlying level of Islamophobia in society and Muslims had to do more to educate people about their religion and mosque proposals.
"People are clearly fearful of Muslims and Islam, and it's easy to create that fear and hysteria in some ways," Mr Hussain said.
Read more at:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/vic...
arab muslims are savages from the dark ages, there are crazy people in our state and federal gov to even allow these people into australia let alone let them build mosques, when idiots are in contro, what hope is there
watch this movie where arab rebel terorists funded by saudi muslim terror execute prisoners

http://rt.com/news/syria-rebel-massacre-alepp...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36581 Jan 31, 2013
jason wrote:
<quoted text>
arab muslims are savages from the dark ages, there are crazy people in our state and federal gov to even allow these people into australia let alone let them build mosques, when idiots are in contro, what hope is there
watch this movie where arab rebel terorists funded by saudi muslim terror execute prisoners
http://rt.com/news/syria-rebel-massacre-alepp...
Shows what savages these ratbags really are.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36582 Jan 31, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

This Islamic tradition goes on to claim, "It is said that there were two ganglia growing out of his shoulders, which caused pain. It became so intense he would anoint them with the brains of human beings. For this purpose he killed two men each day and anointed his ganglia with their brains. When he did, the pain would abate." I'm pleased there is a cure for ganglia. Now all we need is a cure for Islam, for it too consumes men's brains.

Tabari II:4 "A commoner in Babylon rebelled against him. He set up a war banner and many people rallied. When Dahhak heard this he was alarmed and sent the following message:'What is the matter? What do you want.' The man replied,'Do you not say that you are the ruler of the world, and that the world belongs to you?'" As a fellow megalomaniac, scam artist, and terrorist murder, Dahhak/Nimrod served to make Muhammadís life seem sane, I suppose.

Let's compare the description we have just read to what Muhammad had to say about himself: Bukhari:V1B7N331 "The Prophet said,'I have been given five things which were not given to anyone else. Allah made me victorious with terror. The Earth was made for me.... Booty was made lawful for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else. I was given the right of intercession on the Day of Doom. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only, but I have been sent to all mankind.'" Chilling!

Now that I have your attention, let's return to the story. "The rebellious man said,'Let your thirst be for all the world and not only for us, for you only kill our people.'" Yes, there was a happier time in which Muslims only killed Muslims. Now they reach out and touch everyone. "Dahhak/Nimrod agreed and ordered that the two men slain each day would be divided among all people, not from just one nation."

"Dahhak was Nimrod and Abraham was born during his era.... Dahhak had been a rebel who had seized the people of the land with witchcraft and deceit and had completely terrified them with the two serpents which had been on his shoulders." Let's compare the Dahhak/Nimrod duo, which we are told are one in the same with another inseparable duo, Allah/Muhammad. From surah Qur'an 3:151 : "We shall strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers." From Qur'an 4:89 : "Seize them and kill them wherever you find them." In Qur'an 4:142 we find: "Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah, and He shall retaliate by deceiving them." Then: Bukhari:V7B71N661 "Magic was worked on Allahís Apostle and he was bewitched so that he began to imagine doing things which in fact, he had not done." I'm sure these similarities are just a coincidence. After all, one indistinguishable pair claimed to be god and prophet; the other a witch and tyrant. As such, it would be wrong for them to have anything in common.

To be continued
pksass

Sydney, Australia

#36583 Jan 31, 2013
I'd say: Just look at any country around the world and have a look to see that there is inevitabley internal conflict and violence, poverty. That's not racist, that's a fact.

Since: Jun 12

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#36584 Jan 31, 2013
'He will suffer unusual way of death': Islamic terrorists' chilling threat to murder Australian captive unless ransom is paid

Former soldier, 54, seized from his home in the Philippines 13 months ago
Al-Qaeda-linked group are holding him in a jungle camp
He admits he holds 'no hope at all' of ever being released

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