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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36524 Jan 29, 2013
Hello wrote:
1) Debating the ins and outs of old writings contemporaneously is counterproductive and achieves nothing.

2)Thank you, glad you acknowledged that.

3)I disagree with saying 'most pay lip service'. A percentage certainly do but probably not the majority. I will certainly say though, there are those who have there own 'bastardized' version of those branches of religion, who have twisted those philosophies to meet their own self serving requirements. I would refer to those as aberrations and cults.

4)Totally disagree with you here. The Muslims who say the represent 'true Islam" present as the most extreme and intolerant. The same Muslims would invoke Shariah law and claim that is 'true islam.

5)Yes and No, but your answer is flawed in that also non western nations are supplying weapons to Islamic nations...

6)I don't entirely follow your question, please rephrase. You have skipped from first to second and third person.

7)That is not true MUQ. Video recordings have been shown in Australia of inflammatory and racist commentary behind those close doors. One Sheik due to speak was withdrawn from his scheduled speaking duties due to the outrage and controversy.

I have walked past those doors and been verbally/racially abused by young muslims with bad attitudes, I be most foolish to then attempt to walk in those doors.

8)It's disturbing that when there are such events of holding signs of "behead those who offend the prophet" , that there is widespread condemnation indeed, but can only recall TWO muslims, public or otherwise, speaking out against that sign.
Ans.

Here are short replies on your latest post.

01. Ins and outs of "Old Scriptures" are very fundamental to know what are the real teachings of Islam. Unless we know them, how can we judge actions of any Muslims.

03. Here you contradict yourself, saying that some follow "bastardized version" of what they think is Islam. So you agree that these people "mutilate" Islam to their own purposes.

04. Again you contradict yourself here. Unless you know what is True islam, how can you take people at their face value?

What you need is to understand clearly what are teachings of Islam and then check whether any Muslim adheres to that.

05. Your answer is based on your subjective observation. There could be no clear answers in these situations. Western nations supplying arms to both warring factions can be seen by any one observing the conflict.

07. You cannot generalize based on a few cases. Mosques are not a restricted place. They are open to all people. I donít know what experience you had, if your intentions are not OK, may be people will get suspicious.

08. The "best way" if you do not want to see these "placards" is not to "insult" the prophet!!

Why should you think "It is your right to insult our prophet"? We Muslims do not insult Jesus, Moses or any prophet of God.

Why should you not learn some "good things" from Muslims, for a change!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36525 Jan 29, 2013
Serpent wrote:
01. Oh call it want you want to call it, but all these Muslims in Islamic countries behave like the barbarians that they are.

02. They can't build sh^t, they can't organize sh^t, all they can do is kill others and cause problems for everyone.

03. What a useless group of people. Have they ever made any contribution to the world at large? Ans. No.
Ans.

01. You are wrong here, there is not a Single Islamic country in the world these days. You should have said "These Muslims is the Muslim countriesÖ.."

02. No comment.

03. You have no idea of world history? Do you?

Just check which group was in the forefront during 7th to 15th Century?

Where the Fire of Knowledge was buring in full light when Europe was engulfed in those dark centuries?

As some one said "Muslims were taking baths in heated Public Baths and using soap to clean their faces , when most Europeans thought that soap is name of some exquisite wine"!!

You are excused for having poor knowledge of world history!!
Jess

Sydney, Australia

#36526 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If it was "God's Decree" to give Holy Land to the "Sole Possession" of Jews, then History tells us that Jews have been "Sole possessors" of Holy Land for a very less period in their whole history?
What does it prove? Either that God made a "False Promise".
Or that Promise is not from God but some "Zealous hand" put it into Scriptures!!
God does not make "empty Promises", does He?
Even with Full Support of all Christian Nations, Jews are not Controlling Whole Area of Palestine!!
Is this not a Miracle?
But their are "Die-Hard supporters like you, who keep on repeating like parrots, God Gave the Land of Palestine for an Everlasting possession to jews.
If God gave them the land, then who took it from their hands? Are men "More Powerful" than God?
But how can one argue with zombies like you, who do not see some thing as evident as this!!
Well lets look at it this way, If God wanted the Muslims to have Israel, why cant 1.5 billion Muslims, with the help of Allah, kick out a few million Jews?

I mean Allah and 1.5 BILLION MUSLIMS??

I think God is saying something, but you are just not listening.
Jess

Sydney, Australia

#36527 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Believing and Putting into practice are two different things.
Whilst there are 2.5 Billion Catholic Christians in the world today, there is "Not a Single Country in the world" which is run according to Catholic beliefs!!
So there is not a Single Catholic Nation in the whole world.
And the same applies to Islamic Nation too. There are many Muslim countries in the world, but not a single Islamic country.
And there is a struggle in Muslim countries to become Islamic, whilst the Christians are "content" to live as they are and there is no move to turn their countries into Catholic country.
Therefore these 2.5 Billion Roman catholics in reality mean nothing!!
Actually there are only 900 million Catholics

and there is one country run 100% along catholic beliefs, its call the Vatican City.

Get you facts right stupid.
Jess

Sydney, Australia

#36528 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Here are short replies on your latest post.
01. Ins and outs of "Old Scriptures" are very fundamental to know what are the real teachings of Islam. Unless we know them, how can we judge actions of any Muslims.
03. Here you contradict yourself, saying that some follow "bastardized version" of what they think is Islam. So you agree that these people "mutilate" Islam to their own purposes.
04. Again you contradict yourself here. Unless you know what is True islam, how can you take people at their face value?
What you need is to understand clearly what are teachings of Islam and then check whether any Muslim adheres to that.

05. Your answer is based on your subjective observation. There could be no clear answers in these situations. Western nations supplying arms to both warring factions can be seen by any one observing the conflict.
07. You cannot generalize based on a few cases. Mosques are not a restricted place. They are open to all people. I donít know what experience you had, if your intentions are not OK, may be people will get suspicious.
08. The "best way" if you do not want to see these "placards" is not to "insult" the prophet!!
Why should you think "It is your right to insult our prophet"? We Muslims do not insult Jesus, Moses or any prophet of God.
Why should you not learn some "good things" from Muslims, for a change!!
I keep hearing how there is no one following the true Islam, yet it no one is doing that, how would YOU know? If it is so hard to understand, that must mean you allah is not that smart? If he was smart he would not have made so many mistakes in the Qu'ran?
So do you blame Allah for being stupid?

Or maybe you are stupid? Or maybe all Muslims are stupid? Who are you blaming? Surely not Allah, because in the Qu'ran it says all things are ordained by Allah, So allah has F**ked up pretty bad hasnt he?

Well MUQ?

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Since: May 10

Australia

#36529 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
02. I do accept that present day Muslims are not the best example of what True Muslims should be.
Hello MUQ ,there is the big problem that even Islam cannot solve it's own corruption including that of extremists who have their own agenda.
MalbarCACA Controller

UK

#36530 Jan 29, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Hello MUQ ,there is the big problem that even Islam cannot solve it's own corruption including that of extremists who have their own agenda.
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#36531 Jan 29, 2013
Jess wrote:
<quoted text>
I keep hearing how there is no one following the true Islam, yet it no one is doing that, how would YOU know? If it is so hard to understand, that must mean you allah is not that smart? If he was smart he would not have made so many mistakes in the Qu'ran?
So do you blame Allah for being stupid?
Or maybe you are stupid? Or maybe all Muslims are stupid? Who are you blaming? Surely not Allah, because in the Qu'ran it says all things are ordained by Allah, So allah has F**ked up pretty bad hasnt he?
Well MUQ?
When Allah made those words available to Muhammad why then aren't Muslims not praying directly to Allah instead of the messenger Muhammad and not the prophet he portrayed himself to be ?

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#36532 Jan 29, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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UK

#36535 Jan 29, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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#36537 Jan 29, 2013
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#36538 Jan 29, 2013
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#36539 Jan 29, 2013
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#36540 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Believing and Putting into practice are two different things.
Whilst there are 2.5 Billion Catholic Christians in the world today, there is "Not a Single Country in the world" which is run according to Catholic beliefs!!
So there is not a Single Catholic Nation in the whole world.
And the same applies to Islamic Nation too. There are many Muslim countries in the world, but not a single Islamic country.
And there is a struggle in Muslim countries to become Islamic, whilst the Christians are "content" to live as they are and there is no move to turn their countries into Catholic country.
Therefore these 2.5 Billion Roman catholics in reality mean nothing!!
As usual you are wrong. The Vatican is the world's smallest country and it is a Catholic country.

In relation to turning the world into a single united Catholic country, people have free choice in the west and can choose or not choose to live and believe in what they want. Christians don't go around beheading, stoning or intimidating people because of their beliefs unlike Islam.

Those 2.5 billion Catholics vote wherever they may live and they have a very real influence in the political affairs of the countries that they live in

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#36541 Jan 29, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

"The oven with the water boiling that Allah made as sign between Himself and Noah was the oven of stone that belonged to Eve.... On Friday, the 10th of Rajab it took off. It passed the House, which had been lifted up by Allah so it would not be submerged. Noah circumnavigated it seven times. It then went to Yemen and returned." Ar-Rahman lived in Yemen; Muhammad didn't want to leave him out.

With these words we say goodbye to Volume I of Tabari: "The eras were: from the Flood to the fire of Abraham, from the fire of Abraham to the mission of Joseph, from the mission of Joseph to the mission of Moses, from the mission of Moses to the reign of Solomon, from the reign of Solomon to the mission of Jesus, and from the mission of Jesus, to when the Messenger of Allah was sent." So what happened? Did Allah run out of Jews? And since every era is centered around Jerusalem, including Muhammadís only trip to heaven, why is Mecca sacred? Fact is, Mecca didn't exist - nor would it exist for another 3,500 years.

To be continued
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36542 Jan 29, 2013
Even when muslims try to flee the evil from there own islamic countries to Christian countries the evil that is islam follows them,,,,and slaughters them.

This poor muslim girl simply ran from an abusive older male she was made to marry, and her own brother beleaving in the words of mohummed thinks so highly of family honour that he kills her.

Wo to islam

Stockholm: A Swedish court on Tuesday sentenced a 17-year-old man to eight years in prison for stabbing his sister 107 times in what judges called an honour killing.

The teen, who was 16 at the time, was convicted of killing his 19-year-old sister at her home in the southwestern town of Landskrona on April 23 last year.

He had called emergency services and said a masked attacker had killed her, but investigators said his story didn't hold up against evidence found at the scene.

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"The court found the man guilty of the murder and that the motive was to restore the family's honour," the Lund district court said in a statement.

It said that "despite the man's young age," it was sentencing him "to a long prison sentence, and has set it at eight years."

The names and nationalities of the brother and sister were not disclosed, but media described the family as being of Iraqi origin.

The sister had told friends and family that she was worried her life was in danger, after she fled from Iraq, where she had been reportedly married against her will to an older man whom she claimed beat and raped her.

Once in Sweden, she contacted social services in Landskrona, but she said they did not take her family's threats against her seriously, Swedish media reported.

The court meanwhile refused to pay damages to the victim's mother and a half-sister born to the same father, arguing the relatives did not have a close relationship with the deceased.

The lawyer for the convicted teen called the sentence "extremely harsh" and said he planned to appeal.
Serpent

Honolulu, HI

#36543 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. You are wrong here, there is not a Single Islamic country in the world these days. You should have said "These Muslims is the Muslim countriesÖ.."
02. No comment.
03. You have no idea of world history? Do you?
Just check which group was in the forefront during 7th to 15th Century?
Where the Fire of Knowledge was buring in full light when Europe was engulfed in those dark centuries?
As some one said "Muslims were taking baths in heated Public Baths and using soap to clean their faces , when most Europeans thought that soap is name of some exquisite wine"!!
You are excused for having poor knowledge of world history!!
Why no comment on 02,? Is it difficult for you to admit to the truth?

03. Hahaha, 7th & 15th century,, hahaha,,, hey MUQ, we are in the 21st century now. Where the hell have you been? What have you useless Muslims contributed towards mankind in the last 700 years?? Hahaha! America wasn't even discovered in the 7th century', but look what we have built in the last 500 years and look what we have contributed to mankind in this time frame. We make enormous medical advances, we went to the moon and back, we discovered the computer, the Internet etc etc. We organized several organizations to volunteer to help distressed countries like yours when your faced with disasters etc etc. What have you useless Muslims done in this same time period????
You know you Muslims are so useless and contribute almost nothing towards mankind, the world would be better off with no Muslims. Your just a useless nuisance on the face of the earth.

A world without Muslims would at least mean we would have a cleaner and more peaceful world!! Amen!!
MUQ Mali case study

Australia

#36544 Jan 29, 2013
French forces have taken all the key towns that were occupied by Islamic militants.
Unopposed.
Amid scenes of wild celebration, the liberation of Mali from Islamic sharia jihadist's sets the scene for further liberation of Islamic terror.
Iniitally the islamucic jihadist's were welcomed by the locals as develoment of the promises of islam. However after months of terror and violence the local population regretted their acoomodating of the Islamists who resorted to extreme measures dictated by the Quran and Islamic law. Dress, tv, phones, food, social interaction, corruption and bullying quickly became systemic organized religious violence waged against the mali people.
The western forces have now removed this reign of terror.
As the Islamists retreat they destroyed many cultural icons and heritage of Mali in a demonstation of spite and gross defiling of any history or religious beliefs they did not agree with.

MUQ - what say you now to the peaceful and serene values of Islam including toleration of other culture values and beliefs.

Mali as per many others demonstrates most clearly the Taqiyya practiced by islamist and that being a muslim is either to be a subjugator of others or a victim.
Beyond any doubt is the violent and non tolerant nature of Islam by example.
This is why the world fears Islam.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36545 Jan 29, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello MUQ ,there is the big problem that even Islam cannot solve it's own corruption including that of extremists who have their own agenda.
You are again confusing Islam with Muslims. Islam has no problem, Muslims have many and that is because they do not follow Islamic teachings on every thing.

They want to have a cross between Islamic and Modern Materialistic teachings and you cannot travel on two busses at the same time, can you?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36546 Jan 29, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual you are wrong. The Vatican is the world's smallest country and it is a Catholic country.
In relation to turning the world into a single united Catholic country, people have free choice in the west and can choose or not choose to live and believe in what they want. Christians don't go around beheading, stoning or intimidating people because of their beliefs unlike Islam.
Those 2.5 billion Catholics vote wherever they may live and they have a very real influence in the political affairs of the countries that they live in
Just being called a "Catholic Country" will not make it catholic, would it?

We have so many "Islamic Democratic Republics" in the world today. Are they actually what they claim?

Vatican has no power, it is just a show piece, just to mollify the Pope and pretend he has some power.

If vatican is your idea of a "Truly Catholic Country" then you have accepted defeat already!!

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