Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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The Fly Swatters

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#36482 Jan 27, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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I didn't use it to corroborate either scripture I just made a statement that it was written in the OT and that it is also mentioned in the NT.
If I wanted to link the old and the new I could do it through prophecy but I won't waste my time doing that to a chimp like you who believes in the ravings of a madman
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#36483 Jan 27, 2013
Hey you(steve),dnt even say a one silly word against us.u dnt knw anything,mate.A real Muslim can never be a terrorist.they(terrorist) misunderstanding true meaning of our quran and as a result they misusing it.we love peace and let us be in peace. :-

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#36484 Jan 27, 2013
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#36485 Jan 27, 2013
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Where does in say in print that god said so ?
Genesis 17:

19 Then God said,“Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac.[d] I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 BUT MY COVENANT I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year.” 22 When he had finished speaking with Abraham, God went up from him.
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#36486 Jan 27, 2013
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#36487 Jan 27, 2013
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#36489 Jan 27, 2013
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#36494 Jan 27, 2013
sydney is poof capital wrote:
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Phil Collins was in Genesis
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Hello again

Castle Hill, Australia

#36495 Jan 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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I gave you a solution to solve your problem as well as ours but you do not want it.
I said exchange all your Muslims with the Jews that are in Isreal and Palestine and problems of both' of us shall be solved.
You will get, White rapists, drunkards, alcoholics, drug addicts, fraudsters, cheats, cut throats, bank robbers, child molesters....and be very happy and content with them and shower them with love and kindness till they see the light and reform.
And our brothers in Palestine shall live in peace and tranquality.
Is it not a win-win situation?
Why not act on it and get mutual peace!!
MUQ, could you please go to page 1684, re-read my post and respond please. I would be most interested in seeing your reply.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36496 Jan 28, 2013
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The Holy land belongs to the Jews and always has been as noted by God in his word. It is God's land and he can give it to whomever he wants-guess what he chose the Jews
If it was "God's Decree" to give Holy Land to the "Sole Possession" of Jews, then History tells us that Jews have been "Sole possessors" of Holy Land for a very less period in their whole history?

What does it prove? Either that God made a "False Promise".

Or that Promise is not from God but some "Zealous hand" put it into Scriptures!!

God does not make "empty Promises", does He?

Even with Full Support of all Christian Nations, Jews are not Controlling Whole Area of Palestine!!

Is this not a Miracle?

But their are "Die-Hard supporters like you, who keep on repeating like parrots, God Gave the Land of Palestine for an Everlasting possession to jews.

If God gave them the land, then who took it from their hands? Are men "More Powerful" than God?

But how can one argue with zombies like you, who do not see some thing as evident as this!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36497 Jan 28, 2013
JNH wrote:
01. Well Sura 4:157-158 quran mocks Jesus accusing him as an imposter and of deception.
Putting aside the trinity bit (god & Jesus same), this sura is but one if many examples of the obvious treachery and lies of Islam.

02. The Taqiyya that spews out of Muslims mouth..
Didn't Muhammad claim to be a prophet equal to Moses and along the way said he has to be a prophet because Jesus had made such a mess of it and failed as one.(yep).
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03. The Taqiyya that spews out of your mouth MUQ will be laid in front of you in judgment day.
You need to repent and cast off the evil shroud of Islam. You need to walk into the light.
01. Here is Surah 4:157-158 for you

"And they (i.e. Jews) said (in boast): "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God" , but they killed him not, nor crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow- for a surety they killed him not"

"Nay, God raised him up unto Himself, and God is Exalted in power, Wise"

Now where in these verses, Jesus is mocked and accused of being an imposter and deception? Just because Matthew says some thing and Mark says something and Luke says something and John says something else, will make the Crucifixion of Jesus a reality?

Quran put forward what happened to jesus, he did not die on cross, but God took him away before he was arrested.

Is it glorifying Jesus or Mocking Jesus? Is it you who are full of deception or Islam and Quran?

And Trinity is likewise something which is only in your imaginations. In reality there is No Trinity!!

02. Our prophet was one of the Mightiest Messenger of God along with Noah, Abraham. Moses and jesus. We do not rate one prophet over other, Each was given some special favors and honors by God.

But we follow the Last prophet, because he is the prophet to be followed till the day of judgment.

03. There is nothing called taqaiyya in islam, it is only in your imagination and there is no cure for hallucination, is it?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36498 Jan 28, 2013
Hello wrote:
01. Forget about old writings, look at modern day Islam.

02. Muslims themselves indicate there is a great divide and conflict amongst themselves. Various sects of Muslims warring with each other; warring with western ideology, perceived or otherwise; stone age views when it comes to women permeates that religion.

03. Everywhere I look where Islam is the predominate religion, I see oppression and violence and I guess that's what Australians fear happening here.
I feel sorry for the more moderate muslims, for example, in Egypt or even Syria, because they are like other countries around the world, they are being slowly but surely beaten down by extreme muslims and that is what a lot of Australian's fear.

04. Already in Australia, you have signs of ' behead those who insult the prophet' being held up; you have Sheiks, spokespersons for the larger bodies of muslims; advocating for polygamy and comparing women who don't cover up to his standards like 'uncovered meat'.

05. If that is the public version, people are VERY afraid what goes on behind those closed mosque doors with that ilk.
Ans.

01. That is your FIRST mistake. Do not Forget Old Writings, but start with the Old Writings and know what is Islam and what are its teachings.

And once you know, then see how much Muslims have deviated from Islam and fallen into Non Islamic ways.

02. I do accept that present day Muslims are not the best example of what True Muslims should be.

But just because Muslims are not presenting themselves as Role Models of Islam why should you reject islam and Islamic teachings?

03. While religions like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism have faults in them and most of followers of these religions only give lip service to their religion and there is no country or society in the world which is run exactly on the basis of their religions.

04. And we Muslims invite and call Muslims to turn back to true islam, which only can solve their problems. Now they are torn between islam and Western philosophy. Their leaders are every thing but Muslims in name. They are corrupt, greedy, dictators, that want to hang on to power at any cost.

05. And these Western Nations, they are very happy at the internal fights that Muslims are having. They fan the warfare by supplying arms and ammunition to both factions, so they continue fighting.

06. But my question is, why should you reject True teachings of Islam, is it enough excuse before your Creator that I rejected islam because Muslims were such bad people?

Why not be Muslims and show Muslims how a True Muslim should live?

07. Nothing goes beyond the close doors of mosques, except prayers and supplications to Our Creator, why not enter those closed doors and see for yourself?

PS:

I hope my reply quenches your "thirst" for now at least!!
Chicka

Australia

#36499 Jan 28, 2013
Oh my goodness, I just had a premonition that their was going to be a evil man somewhere in the muslim world, that was going to blow some innocent muslim people to smithereens in the next couple of days. With no fear of retribution from fellow muslims because he will be sanctioned by the church and God.

I hope I'm wrong.
hello again

Castle Hill, Australia

#36500 Jan 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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01. That is your FIRST mistake. Do not Forget Old Writings, but start with the Old Writings and know what is Islam and what are its teachings.
And once you know, then see how much Muslims have deviated from Islam and fallen into Non Islamic ways.
02. I do accept that present day Muslims are not the best example of what True Muslims should be.
But just because Muslims are not presenting themselves as Role Models of Islam why should you reject islam and Islamic teachings?
03. While religions like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism have faults in them and most of followers of these religions only give lip service to their religion and there is no country or society in the world which is run exactly on the basis of their religions.
04. And we Muslims invite and call Muslims to turn back to true islam, which only can solve their problems. Now they are torn between islam and Western philosophy. Their leaders are every thing but Muslims in name. They are corrupt, greedy, dictators, that want to hang on to power at any cost.
05. And these Western Nations, they are very happy at the internal fights that Muslims are having. They fan the warfare by supplying arms and ammunition to both factions, so they continue fighting.
06. But my question is, why should you reject True teachings of Islam, is it enough excuse before your Creator that I rejected islam because Muslims were such bad people?
Why not be Muslims and show Muslims how a True Muslim should live?
07. Nothing goes beyond the close doors of mosques, except prayers and supplications to Our Creator, why not enter those closed doors and see for yourself?
PS:
I hope my reply quenches your "thirst" for now at least!!
1) Debating the ins and outs of old writings contemperaneously is counterproductive and achieves nothing.
2)Thank you, glad you acknowledged that.
3)I disagree with saying 'most pay lip service'. A percentage certainly do but probably not the majority. I will certainly say though, there are those who have there own 'bastardized' version of those branches of religion, who have twisted those philosphies to meet their own self serving requirements. I would refer to those as abherrations and cults.
4)Totally disagree with you here. The Muslims who say the represent 'true Islam" present as the most extreme and intolerant. The same Muslims would invoke sharia law and claim that is 'true islam.
5)Yes and No, but your answer is flawed in that also non western nations are supplying weapons to Islamic nations. Whether their are some groups with dishonourable intentions in western countries who are happy to see warring muslims, yet it remains to be seen if that wish backfires. Most certainly, the war involving Islamic countries has cost many countries countless thousands of lives (which is canon fodder to those sitting in office) and trillions of dollars but importantly, it is polictically unpalatable with the voting public, so you may need to review that theory.
6)I don't entirely follow your question, please rephrase. You have skipped from first to second and third person.
7)That is not true MUQ. Video recordings have been shown in Australia of inflammatory and racist commentary behind those close doors. One Sheik due to speak was withdrawn from his scheduled speaking duties due to the outrage and controversy.
I have walked past those doors and been verbally/racially abused by young muslims with bad attitudes, I be most foolish to then attempt to walk in those doors.
8)It's disturbing that when there are such events of holding signs of "behead those who offend the prophet" , that there is widespread condemnation indeed, but can only recall TWO muslims, public or otherwise, speaking out against that sign. Very disturbing. Whereas a violent/racially motiviated abuse by an white Australia is howled down by public and private citizens alike.
The extremist Islam, seems to be suffocating the moderate Islam bit by bit.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#36501 Jan 28, 2013
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." -- Qur'an 9:29

Muslim spokesmen in the West routinely claim that this verse has no applicability in the modern world. They're lying.

"Muslim Group Threatens Egypt's Coptic Christians; Tells Them to 'Pay Tribute,'" from the Christian Post, January 27 (thanks to David):

An armed Islamic movement calling itself the "Brigade of Muslims" released a statement on Saturday threatening Egypt's Coptic Christians and asking them to pay tribute.
"Egypt is an Islamic country and will be ruled according to Shariah," the statement added.

The movement threatened all Egyptian media professionals who "mock religion and Islamic rule," adding that it has a special list of media professionals and their persistence in mocking will result in the "shedding of their blood in the ugliest way."

The movement explained that it has been established because of the strife being plotted against the country and the plans of enemies of Islam, both at home and abroad.

The movement accused Copts of trying to create a "separate Coptic state," accused the National Salvation Front of involvement in the burning of Egypt, and accused the so-called corrupt media of distorting the image of Muslims and Islamic rule.

The movement noted its approach is jihad, and it would fight the Egyptian army and Interior Ministry if they do not stand up to "Copts and their helpers."

"Let the unbelievers and the hypocrites know we are as keen on dying for the sake of God as they are keen on life," the movement confirmed.

Islamic supremacists avowedly and proudly love death. A Muslim child preacher recently taunted those he has been taught to hate most: "Oh Zionists, we love death for the sake of Allah, just as much as you love life for the sake of Satan." Jihad mass murderer Mohamed Merah said that he "loved death more than they loved life." Nigerian jihadist Abubakar Shekau said: "I'm even longing for death, you vagabond."

Ayman al-Zawahiri's wife advised Muslim women: "I advise you to raise your children in the cult of jihad and martyrdom and to instil in them a love for religion and death." And as one jihadist put it, "We love death. You love your life!" And another: "The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death." That was from Afghan jihadist Maulana Inyadullah

Of course, this idea comes from the Qur'an itself: "Say (O Muhammad): O ye who are Jews! If ye claim that ye are favoured of Allah apart from (all) mankind, then long for death if ye are truthful." -- Qur'an 62:6

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