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Since: May 10

Australia

#36194 Jan 16, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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It is worth it if other people reading the posts are able to see for themselves. I realize he won't admit it but others who are searching will be able to read the information I provide and then they can make their own minds up
I thankyou

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#36195 Jan 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.
After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.
02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.
03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".
04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
Jesus didn't leave the world in a hurry he was on the earth for over 30 years. His teaching ministry was 3 years.When he did leave he fulfilled the prophecy in Psalms as written in the OT

The comforter that you are referring to was the power of God that directed his followers, nowhere was it the false prophet called Muhammad.The Muslims twist one scripture to try and show that Muhammad was that person but they are wrong

The Greek word for Comforter is “parakletos”. The most familiar translation of this Greek word is “Comforter" Muhammad was not a comforter he was a murderer, pedophille, thief, blasphemer etc etc. He was the antithesis of what Jesus stood for and taught.

Satan indwelling in Muhammad deceived Muhammad and he in turn deceived his own people.

Millions of muslims today are leaving Islam when they get to understand the false scriptures that it teaches

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36196 Jan 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Only a "perfect idiot" would call these as "cases of Plagirisation". The source of revelation is God All Mighty and He has spoken to all prophets , so why there should not be "similarity" in the two revaluations?
Plagiarism is when you "import" the passage or verses from one book without giving credit to it.
In Quran there is not a single case like that and I can quote many cases where Jesus copied verses from OT books without giving any credit to the original writer.
That could be called Plagiarism (according to your definition, not mine- MUQ)
So you confirm you are a "perfect idiot"? Do you?
No but you are the perfect idiot, and most reasonable people who read just the few short phrases that I have posted will be able to see that for themselves. We need to remember it is the bible that is the gold standard here not the koran.

Intertextuality is the shaping of texts' meanings by other texts. It can include an author’s borrowing and transformation of a text Sometimes intertextuality is taken as plagiarism . This is exactly what the koran has done

Plagerism also includes the meaning or the Remember the torah was the gold standard and was even referred to by Mohammad as the source of the truth

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#36197 Jan 16, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.
After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.
02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.
03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".
04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
Seeing god did not invent religion why did Jesus need a church ?
The Discomforters

Tempe, AZ

#36198 Jan 16, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Seeing god did not invent religion why did Jesus need a church ?
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#36199 Jan 16, 2013
The Discomforters wrote:
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Is there anyone on this forum that likes anal penetration because it seems that Neville is offering.
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True Islam

Australia

#36200 Jan 17, 2013
Etc Muslim castes wrote:
Muslims are not equal before Allah.
Take the example of Indian Muslims.
Arab and high caste Muslims have to wash if they come in contact with a low caste muslim.
Even Indian Hindu think Islam is more racist than them! 
In india & South Asia, Muslims are divided as Ashrafs and Ajlafs. Ashrafs claim superior status derived from their foreign ancestry.
The non-Ashrafs are converts from Hinduism from the indigenous population. They, in turn, are divided into a number of occupational castes.
 The Fatawa-i Jahandari, written by  Barani
defines Ashraf Muslims as racially superior to
Ajlaf Muslims.
There is also the Arzal caste among Muslims  regarded by Babasaheb Ambedkar as  untouchables.
The Arzal or Dalit Muslims “with whom no other
Muhammadan would associate, and who are forbidden to enter the mosque or to use the public burial ground”.
South Asian Muslims stratify their society according to Quoms.
Muslims practise a ritual-based system of social stratification. 
The claims for Arabic ancestry in India are based
on Arabic racial preferences in Shariah.
But genetic studies found the Muslim population overwhelmingly similar to the local non-Muslims with only  low levels of gene flow from outside,
primarily from Iran and Central Asia, rather than the Arabian Peninsula.
The Sachar Committee's report released in 2006, documents the stratification in Muslim society.
******
Upon contact with a low-caste Muslim, a Muslim of a higher zat can "purify" by taking a short
bath, since there are no elaborate rituals for
purification. 
********
In  “Imdad ul-Fatawa”, Thanvi announced that ‘nau-Muslims’, non-Arab converts to Islam, cannot be considered for purposes of marriage, of ‘established Muslims’ 
 Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like features in Indian Muslim society as a  violation of the Qur'anic worldview."
Dr B.R. argued the social evils in Muslim society
were "worse than those in Hindu society".[126][127]
Babasaheb Ambedkar the chief architect of the Indian Constitution. said of the  Muslim Caste System "Within these groups, castes of social precedence as one finds among the Hindus but
worse in
Pakistani-American sociologist Ayesha Jalal in her book, "Democracy and Authoritarianism in South Asia",that "Despite egalitarian principles, Islam in South Asia has been unable to avoid the impact of class and caste inequalities. 
Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.
The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).
No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other intepretation.
But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36201 Jan 17, 2013
True Islam wrote:
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Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.
The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).
No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other intepretation.
But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
Truthfully I doubt most muslims feel that way regarding their brotherhood. Obliviously within their own sect in the religion. Especially those who meet together in mosques in the west. It is said that people who were enemies in their homelands become friends in their new lands like Australia. E.g. Pakistanis and Indians, Czechs and Croatians, Chinese and Japanese, Greeks and Turks etc... I have seen some of the above examples personally.

Of course that is not always the case. Anyhow, it is their own folly if they choose to divide and conquer themselves and play the to the tune of their imperialist past; both native and the invader. The War Song in which the Mughals conquered India and killed 80 million and burnt their temples and desecrated their gods. So bad and cruel were the Mughals that Indian widows began burning themselves to death, a reason which later manifested to other reasons and becoming a cultural shame to India.

An alternative comparison is how Buddhism was spread by the text and scrolls and monks scurrying between China and India. India and South East Asia and Central Asia. China, Korea and Japan. None in which we saw Indian Buddhist armies in action stepping out of their border unlike we see with Islam. Which fought along the Mediterranean and Eastward crushing Persia then India.
Real Indian says

Australia

#36202 Jan 17, 2013
True Islam wrote:
<quoted text>
Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.

The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).

No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other
intepretation.

But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave
sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to
make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
So the British in fact liberated the Indian hindu against the oppression of Islam ?
All Indians today should be eternally grateful to the british for this liberation.
Gabby

Australia

#36203 Jan 17, 2013
Etc Muslim castes wrote:
Muslims are not equal before Allah.
Take the example of Indian Muslims.
Arab and high caste Muslims have to wash if they come in contact with a low caste muslim.
Even Indian Hindu think Islam is more racist than them! 
In india & South Asia, Muslims are divided as Ashrafs and Ajlafs. Ashrafs claim superior status derived from their foreign ancestry.

The non-Ashrafs are converts from Hinduism from the indigenous population. They, in turn, are divided into a number of occupational castes.

 The Fatawa-i Jahandari, written by  Barani defines Ashraf Muslims as racially superior to Ajlaf Muslims.

There is also the Arzal caste among Muslims  regarded by Babasaheb Ambedkar as  
untouchables.
 Arzal castes are subdivided into Bhanar, Halalkhor, Hijra, Kasbi, Lalbegi, Maugta, Mehtar etc.

The Arzal or Dalit Muslims “with whom no other Muhammadan would associate, and who are
forbidden to enter the mosque or to use the public burial ground”.
South Asian Muslims stratify their society according to Quoms.
Muslims practise a ritual-based system of social
stratification. 
The Quoms who deal with human waste are ranked the lowest. 
The claims for Arabic ancestry in India are based on Arabic racial preferences in Shariah.

But genetic studies found the Muslim population overwhelmingly similar to the local non-Muslims with only  low levels of gene flow from outside,
primarily from Iran and Central Asia, rather than the Arabian Peninsula.
The Sachar Committee's report released in 2006, documents the continued stratification in Muslim society.

******
Upon contact with a low-caste Muslim, a Muslim of a higher zat can "purify" by taking a short
bath, since there are no elaborate rituals for purification. 
********
In  “Imdad ul-Fatawa”, Thanvi announced that
‘nau-Muslims’, non-Arab converts to Islam, cannot be considered for purposes of marriage, of ‘established Muslims’ 
 Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like
features in Indian Muslim society as a  violation of the Qur'anic worldview."
Dr B.R. argued the social evils in Muslim society were "worse than those in Hindu society".[126][127]
Babasaheb Ambedkar the chief architect of the Indian Constitution. said of the  Muslim Caste System "Within these groups, castes of social precedence as one finds among the Hindus but worse in numerous ways". He said Muslims
sugarcoat caste  divide by using euphemisms like "brotherhood".
He was  critical of the scripture that keep the Muslim Caste system rigid and discriminatory. 
He decried against the approval of Shariah to Muslim casteism. 
The Arabian supermacy in Indian Muslims accounted for its equal disapproval by high and low caste Hindus during 1300 years of Islamic presence in India. He condemned the Indian
Muslim Community.
Pakistani-American sociologist Ayesha Jalal writes, in her book, "Democracy and Authoritarianism in South Asia",that "Despite its egalitarian principles, Islam in South Asia
historically has been unable to avoid the impact of class and caste inequalities. 
MUQ this is enlightening, unbelievable how cruel Islam is to non Arabs & what you live under,
What Zat or sub caste of Indian Islam are you ?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36204 Jan 17, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

Third, these twisted variants all serve a purpose. Muhammad used them to justify the inclusion of Qusayy's pagan practices into Islam. They gave the Five Pillars, all of which were pagan, some semblance of monotheistic credibility. Time and again, Muhammad rewrote Jewish history to make Allah, Mecca, the Ka'aba, Hajj and himself seem worthy of veneration. He recast Adam, Noah, and Abraham as Muslim Messengers focused on Mecca.

If Adam, Noah, and Abraham weren't Muslims, then the preponderance of the Qur'an was stolen, not revealed. There's no other explanation for Allah’s dependence on the Bible and Talmud. So Muhammad must convince us that the Jewish patriarchs worshiped Allah, received Qur'anic revelations, made journeys to Mecca, built the Ka'aba, worshiped there, and performed a complex array of Islamic rituals. If he fails in this regard, if his revisionist stories aren't believable, then the Qur'an is a forgery, Islam is a counterfeit, and Muhammad was a fraud. That being the case, there is no justification for them to kill us over it.

Finally, Muhammad corrupts the lives and words of Adam, Noah, Lot, and Abraham to excuse his pathetic existence. The Islamic Adam had a cavalry; he was a warrior and a tyrant just like Muhammad. Like the Islamic prophet, the Muslim Cain was guilty of incest; he was driven to murder by lust. The Islamic Noah wanted his people to be slaughtered for mocking him. The Islamic Abraham destroyed the small idols so that his people would turn to the largest one. Muhammad recast these men in his image. They were all embroiled in arguments with their peers that mirrored Muhammad’s Meccan trials. In each case Allah punished those who rejected the messenger just as Muhammad claims he will torment those who deny him.

With Muhammad’s agenda in mind, let's march ahead. Tabari I:335 "Seth stayed in Mecca performing the hajj pilgrimage and the lesser umrah until he died. He added the scrolls revealed by Allah to those of his father, Adam, and acted in accordance with their contents. He built the Ka'aba with stones and clay." If the Ka'aba gets one more builder it's going to become the Tower of Babel.

In the interim, we have scrolls of babel: "The people of the Torah said,'Enoch was born to Jared. Allah granted him the gift of prophecy. He revealed thirty scrolls to him. He was the first after Adam to write and to exert himself in Allah’s Cause [Jihad]. He was the first to cut and sew clothes. He was the first to lead some of Cain's descendants into captivity and to enslave them.'" Not to be picky, but I thought that Eve was a stay-at-home mom. And I suppose fighting made Enoch the first good Muslim, a devout religious lad following in the footsteps of Muhammad.

We now have one hundred scrolls. How is it then that the first mentioned in the Qur'an were from Abraham and Moses, who have yet to be born? Qur'an 87:18: "This is surely in the earlier Books, the Books of Abraham and Moses."
To be continued

Since: Jan 13

Faisalabad, Pakistan

#36205 Jan 17, 2013
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Capalaba, Australia

#36206 Jan 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.

ANS-1, Jesus was sacrificed for his preachings of nothing but love for all mankind and rightous as the son of man, he peached in open spaces not to the eliet, but to the common people, the down trodden, to those who only felt hopelessness.

After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.

ANS-2 Yes his diciples did continue to preach the message of love and tollerence to all who would listen as Jesus commanded.

02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.

ANS-3 Jesus said many times that he was son of the living god, this is why the Jews kept accusing him of blasmerphy, as for st paul, Christians dont worship him , only Jesus the son of god sent to the earth to teach mankind the message of love and tollerence.

03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".

ANS-4, Jesus said ` I am the way, the truth and the light` He is the lamb of god, No man shall enter the kindom of heavon without first accepting the lord Jesus Christ as there lord and savoiur.

04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
ANS-5 No MUQ, you and islam are simply a diversion from the path of Christ and will have to answer to god for trying to turn his children from him.

St paul means nothing to the children of the lamb as they only follow the message of Christ, islams growth around the world is only due to conversions of the sword in nations full of simple and sadistic men searching for a religion that will justify there attrocities as islam and your prophet mohummed does.

And dispite the evil done in the nations of islam the lamb of god still grows in rightous mens hearts and many stand firm in there walk with Christ and his message.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36208 Jan 17, 2013
SC wrote:
01. To a muslim, their Quran is always the perfect final revelation from God and yours is a corrupted, human inspired pierce of theological work.

02. You will never be able to convince him that it is plagiarism. Why bother? Just like you cannot convince him that his religion is barbaric because of it being poorly written as opposed to an era in which muslims are misbehaving.
Ans.

01. You have spoken the Truth my dear fellow!! Because there is Only One Quran that existed in the world from the time it was revealed to our prophet …. And there are Hundreds of Biblical version in existence, each with difference in content and interpretation.

Any “unbiased” person when seeing the two documents would come to the “same conclusion” as Muslims do!!

02. How it can be plagiarism, when there is not a “Single verse in Quran that is copied from Bible verbatim”?

When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!

And by the way, you do not know what is Barbarism, do you?

Define what is Barbarism and trace history of Europe and tell me the date from which they “Turned away from Barbarism and moved towards Humanism”!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36207 Jan 17, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Seeing god did not invent religion why did Jesus need a church ?
Do not ask me, ask these Bible Thumpers and "worshippers" of Jesus this question!!

PS:

And be prepared to receive a "torrent" of non consequential info!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36209 Jan 17, 2013
NT wrote:
OK MUQ, how would you describe using another scripture as a reference point to write your own scripture ?
Ans.

Scripture is really “revelation” that Prophets of God receive from their Lord and then it is either spoken by them, or written by their own hands or they ask it to be written down, verbatim.

This is true meaning of scripture. People loosely use this word for “any of their fundamental religious books”. These might contain revelation that came from God or might be their own “interpretation of that revelation”

So there could be some “Scripture content in those books”. As an example I can say that 99 % of all that is written by St. Paul is not scripture, but his own interpretation.

Going by the true meaning of Scripture, there is no way in which one scripture is written based on other scripture. All revelation come from the same source.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36210 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Scripture is really “revelation” that Prophets of God receive from their Lord and then it is either spoken by them, or written by their own hands or they ask it to be written down, verbatim.
This is true meaning of scripture. People loosely use this word for “any of their fundamental religious books”. These might contain revelation that came from God or might be their own “interpretation of that revelation”
So there could be some “Scripture content in those books”. As an example I can say that 99 % of all that is written by St. Paul is not scripture, but his own interpretation.
Going by the true meaning of Scripture, there is no way in which one scripture is written based on other scripture. All revelation come from the same source.
The only thing that revelation has shown us is that there is no revelation in the koran.

All scripture and revelation does not come from the same source. The koran comes from satan, say no more. No one was in the cave when Muhammad allegedly received the koran from the angel Gabril. He just made his own stories up and expected all to believe him. What A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36211 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. You have spoken the Truth my dear fellow!! Because there is Only One Quran that existed in the world from the time it was revealed to our prophet …. And there are Hundreds of Biblical version in existence, each with difference in content and interpretation.
Any “unbiased” person when seeing the two documents would come to the “same conclusion” as Muslims do!!
02. How it can be plagiarism, when there is not a “Single verse in Quran that is copied from Bible verbatim”?
When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!
And by the way, you do not know what is Barbarism, do you?
Define what is Barbarism and trace history of Europe and tell me the date from which they “Turned away from Barbarism and moved towards Humanism”!!
I share no affinity to either Christianity or Islam. Nor have I ever pretended to hold European history as higher in morals tham Islamic. Most of your posts and arguments are hokum to me. Perhaps sending it to a religious person on this forum would be more helpful. Know this.

I concern myself with the present and future and may occasionally learn from history and see its present similarities.
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36212 Jan 18, 2013
When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!
-Muq

I never have discussed such a thing in that matter. Feel free to do some research if you do not believe me.

I do not think you are lying, just an accidental statement.

But to me, I would rather "believe" in the factual rational reasoning behind the quran's conception than to take a leap of faith and say that it was divinely scripted.

You can feel free to believe in the latter, if you wish but do not be offended if I believe otherwise.

That Muhammad made his own religion and borrowed heavily from Christianity and Judaism.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#36214 Jan 18, 2013
Muslim mother wrote:
Us Muslim women have bigger balls than Australian men.
yes yes...2 big balls for the muslim women...and a tiny little dik too...why not?

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