Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46820 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36209 Jan 17, 2013
NT wrote:
OK MUQ, how would you describe using another scripture as a reference point to write your own scripture ?
Ans.

Scripture is really “revelation” that Prophets of God receive from their Lord and then it is either spoken by them, or written by their own hands or they ask it to be written down, verbatim.

This is true meaning of scripture. People loosely use this word for “any of their fundamental religious books”. These might contain revelation that came from God or might be their own “interpretation of that revelation”

So there could be some “Scripture content in those books”. As an example I can say that 99 % of all that is written by St. Paul is not scripture, but his own interpretation.

Going by the true meaning of Scripture, there is no way in which one scripture is written based on other scripture. All revelation come from the same source.

Since: Jun 12

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#36210 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Scripture is really “revelation” that Prophets of God receive from their Lord and then it is either spoken by them, or written by their own hands or they ask it to be written down, verbatim.
This is true meaning of scripture. People loosely use this word for “any of their fundamental religious books”. These might contain revelation that came from God or might be their own “interpretation of that revelation”
So there could be some “Scripture content in those books”. As an example I can say that 99 % of all that is written by St. Paul is not scripture, but his own interpretation.
Going by the true meaning of Scripture, there is no way in which one scripture is written based on other scripture. All revelation come from the same source.
The only thing that revelation has shown us is that there is no revelation in the koran.

All scripture and revelation does not come from the same source. The koran comes from satan, say no more. No one was in the cave when Muhammad allegedly received the koran from the angel Gabril. He just made his own stories up and expected all to believe him. What A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36211 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. You have spoken the Truth my dear fellow!! Because there is Only One Quran that existed in the world from the time it was revealed to our prophet …. And there are Hundreds of Biblical version in existence, each with difference in content and interpretation.
Any “unbiased” person when seeing the two documents would come to the “same conclusion” as Muslims do!!
02. How it can be plagiarism, when there is not a “Single verse in Quran that is copied from Bible verbatim”?
When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!
And by the way, you do not know what is Barbarism, do you?
Define what is Barbarism and trace history of Europe and tell me the date from which they “Turned away from Barbarism and moved towards Humanism”!!
I share no affinity to either Christianity or Islam. Nor have I ever pretended to hold European history as higher in morals tham Islamic. Most of your posts and arguments are hokum to me. Perhaps sending it to a religious person on this forum would be more helpful. Know this.

I concern myself with the present and future and may occasionally learn from history and see its present similarities.
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36212 Jan 18, 2013
When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!
-Muq

I never have discussed such a thing in that matter. Feel free to do some research if you do not believe me.

I do not think you are lying, just an accidental statement.

But to me, I would rather "believe" in the factual rational reasoning behind the quran's conception than to take a leap of faith and say that it was divinely scripted.

You can feel free to believe in the latter, if you wish but do not be offended if I believe otherwise.

That Muhammad made his own religion and borrowed heavily from Christianity and Judaism.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#36214 Jan 18, 2013
Muslim mother wrote:
Us Muslim women have bigger balls than Australian men.
yes yes...2 big balls for the muslim women...and a tiny little dik too...why not?

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Hoppers Crossing, Australia

#36215 Jan 18, 2013
Muslim mother wrote:
Us Muslim women have bigger balls than Australian men.
Bet they stole the show during 'Movember' too.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36216 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Do not ask me, ask these Bible Thumpers and "worshippers" of Jesus this question!!
PS:
And be prepared to receive a "torrent" of non consequential info!!
Same deal,why does Islam or any other religion need a building of opulant slendour to communicate with god.
Doesn't religion trust gods making(us) that they can choose how to pray if we have to, and who dreamt up this praying and these other servant type activities within all religion ?

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Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36217 Jan 18, 2013
Muslim mother wrote:
Us Muslim women have bigger balls than Australian men.
You have to

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Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36218 Jan 18, 2013
SandCastle wrote:
When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!
-Muq
I never have discussed such a thing in that matter. Feel free to do some research if you do not believe me.
I do not think you are lying, just an accidental statement.
But to me, I would rather "believe" in the factual rational reasoning behind the quran's conception than to take a leap of faith and say that it was divinely scripted.
You can feel free to believe in the latter, if you wish but do not be offended if I believe otherwise.
That Muhammad made his own religion and borrowed heavily from Christianity and Judaism.
Put down on partchment by some who undertood those scriptures very well

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36219 Jan 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Scripture is really “revelation” that Prophets of God receive from their Lord and then it is either spoken by them, or written by their own hands or they ask it to be written down, verbatim.
This is true meaning of scripture. People loosely use this word for “any of their fundamental religious books”. These might contain revelation that came from God or might be their own “interpretation of that revelation”
So there could be some “Scripture content in those books”. As an example I can say that 99 % of all that is written by St. Paul is not scripture, but his own interpretation.
Going by the true meaning of Scripture, there is no way in which one scripture is written based on other scripture. All revelation come from the same source.
Where thendid the King James version of the Christan Bible come from .
Everything I ask you is a revelation from god.
SandCastle

West Hoxton, Australia

#36220 Jan 18, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Bet they stole the show during 'Movember' too.
Apply cold water to burned area.
MalbarCACA Controller

UK

#36221 Jan 18, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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#36222 Jan 18, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Same deal,why does Islam or any other religion need a building of opulant slendour to communicate with god.
Doesn't religion trust gods making(us) that they can choose how to pray if we have to, and who dreamt up this praying and these other servant type activities within all religion ?
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#36223 Jan 18, 2013
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Bet they stole the show during 'Movember' too.
Why you going on about, ti pilon IMPOSTOR?
MalbarCACA Controller

UK

#36224 Jan 18, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Where thendid the King James version of the Bible come from .
Everything I ask you is a revelation from god.
Hahahaha, the Jackass thinks he has revelation from god and yet can't even spell "Christan".

Get away little monkey people have better things to do then answer you dickhead questions.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36226 Jan 18, 2013
JB wrote:
01. ANS-5 No MUQ, you and islam are simply a diversion from the path of Christ and will have to answer to god for trying to turn his children from him.

02. St Paul means nothing to the children of the lamb as they only follow the message of Christ, Islam’s growth around the world is only due to conversions of the sword in nations full of simple and sadistic men searching for a religion that will justify there atrocities as islam and your prophet Mohammed does.

03. And despite the evil done in the nations of islam the lamb of god still grows in righteous men’s hearts and many stand firm in there walk with Christ and his message.
Ans.

01. Our prophet’s message is not diversion from the message which Jesus preached. Jesus, Moses and Our prophet and all prophets of God are beads of the same Rosary. They all were Muslims (i.e. those who submitted themselves to will of their Creator)

02. Most of the Christians “assume” that they follow Jesus when they follow instructions of “St. Paul”. They have their eyes closed and do not distinguish at what Jesus told and what this St. Paul is telling them.

The growth of Islam was not because of sword, if that was the case then who is holding back these “converted Christians” to go back to their faith now that the sword is in their hands?

03. You are entitled to your views, but the fact is Islam is growing worldwide and Christianity is shrinking, both in numbers and in numbers of active participants.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36227 Jan 18, 2013
My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part-1

About the Word “Lord”

The word lord in English has several related meanings. The original meaning is ‘master’ or ‘ruler’ and in this sense it is often used to refer to human beings ‘ lord of this mansion’ or ‘Lord so and so’

The word lord with a Capital L is used in the lexicon of Islam to refer to the One and only God, Allah.

In Islam there is no ambiguity about the meaning of this word.

While it is true that one may occasionally use the word lord (whether capitalized or not) to refer to human beings, in Islamic discourses the reference of this word is always clear from the context.

Whereas for Christians and Hindus and other Polytheists, the word Lord with capital L may refer to God, Jesus, or some imagined deity.

For Muslims, Allah alone is Lord, not Jesus, not Ram, nor any other being.

Dedication:

This work is dedicated to every sincere seeker of the truth. May Allah (SUHANAU WA TA’ALA- Glorified and Exalted as is He) by His boundless grace, guide all those who are seriously and sincerely seeking the truth thru this soul-elevating journey. Amen

Publisher’s Note:

All Praise and thanks belong to Allah alone, the One, the Almighty and All Merciful. Peace and Mercy and Blessing be upon prophet Mohammad, the Last of His Messengers and Prophets, and upon his family, his Companions and all those who follow in his footsteps till the end of time.

Each person who was raised in a religion other than Islam, and then who discovers and embraces Islam, has his or her unique story to tell about ‘journey to Islam’.

“My Journey from Christianity to Islam” is Brother YAHAY ONDIGO’ s personal and yet universal story.

He was raised in a strict Christian household, studied the Bible in great detail and thought that Muslims were heathen and needed salvation.

Readers Muslims and Non Muslims alike will find this account of how he came to Islam to be encouraging and thought provoking.

May Allah accept the efforts of all those who contributed to the production of this book and may it be acceptable from them. Amen

MOHD. BIN ABDUL MOHSIN AL TUWAIJIRI
Managing Director

IIPH, Riyadh Saudi Arabia
www.iiph.com.sa
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36228 Jan 18, 2013
My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part-

This, by the Grace of Allah Almighty, is the short story of my journey from Christianity to Islam. Having been born and brought up as a Christian of the Seventh Day Adventist denomination, I had the rare opportunity to experience a Christian way of life for twenty-six years, thru which I learned many things.

Then I accepted Islam and studied islam upto college level as a practicing Muslim. I was therefore happy to accept the request of a Muslim brother, asking me to share my soul-elevating journey from Christianity to islam.

To my knowledge, not many have had such a unique experience and the blessings of both Islam and Christianity, and even fewer have experienced them on both academic and spiritual levels.

This small and very brief short biography will not only shed light on some fundamental aspects of Islam and Christianity, it also by the Grace of Allah Almighty , will answer some questions from the many people who may be curious to know exactly what attracted me to Islam or rather what I did not get from Christianity that I found in Islam

(Abridged)

IIPH, Riyadh Saudi Arabia
www.iiph.com.sa

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#36229 Jan 18, 2013
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#36230 Jan 18, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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What concerns you CaCa
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