Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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01. The church he left was the church of Christ and his teachings were handed down by those who were taught by him, by those who acknowledged he was the son of mankind by divine right. and so spawned Christianity.

02. But of cause the devil wouldn't have this, the devil started many religions under the guise of Christianity so as to confuse man on his path to righteousness.

03. The Christian bible speaks of many false religions and prophets that will show up under the guise of Christianity to redirect man from the one true path.

04. ut a genuine man seeking a true path to god will see the righteous path..........and guess what ? islam isn't it.
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01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.

After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.

02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.

In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.

Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.

03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.

Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".

04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".

Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).

That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!

I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/

This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.

How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.

The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!

PS:

May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga

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Latin is based on Greek & Phoenician i thInk?
Abraham could be assumed to speak assyrian or ivrit (Sumerian) as well as egyption.
Hebrew didn't evolve until much later.
Same with Arabic.
Thus Muhammads claim of Arabic quotations eg
Hagar, ishmael & Abraham are all totally false.
Arabic like Hebrew came much later.
Jesus spoke aramic, was a helenised or Greek Jew. But Latin was the language of record at the time with the romans, so some accuracy in actual events supported by historical facts &
not lost in translation.
So back in the days of the Titans and all that must be the birth place of language
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My Journey from Christianity to Islam – By Capt.(R ) M.A. Ondigo- Part- 0 (Introduction by MUQ)

It is frequent that we place true stories of people, why they left the religion of their parents and chose religion of Islam.

The purpose of telling these stories is not to belittle the faith which he left and neither is the aim to boast about Islam.

But behind each new converts is unique reason which prompted them to study Islam and compare it with the teachings of their own religion.

In most such cases, we find people entering Islam after a deep and prolonged study of Islam and its teachings.

That is why these New converts are very firm in faith and they find it strange that traditional Muslims are so lax in following teachings of Islam. There are a handful cases in which these New Converts got impressed with lives and actions of Muslims living in their society.

My purpose of telling these stories is that, there might be many such people on these threads, who get a very negative opinion about Islam and Muslims be seeing that actions of Muslims living in their society, or from the biased media reporting. These people have not studied Islam and its teachings and they are under false impression that Islam has no reasonable base or logical standing.

Stories of these New Muslim Converts are told to jolt them and make them think as to how come, some one left Christianity, Judaism,. Hinduism and Buddhism and decided to accept Islam after a long and deep study.

Here I am presenting such a story of a Deeply religious Christian, who accepted islam after deep and thorough study of Islam. He had full knowledge of Christianity and its dogmas.

He interacted with Muslims, poor Muslims in a remote corner of the world, and then listened to the Video tapes of Late Shiekh AHMAD DEEDAT, well known Islamic scholar of comparative religion.

The author has described in detail, his story of conversion and how his doubts about Islam got cleared one by one.

But after all his conclusions are subjective and might not be obligatory on any one else. But at least they are evidence that if one studies Islam, without bias and sincerely, he or she might get to find the True Path of Guidance which is Islam.

With these introductory remarks, I will present the abridged account of the book “My Journey from Christianity to Islam- by Capt.(Retd.) M. A. Ondigo”

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To a muslim, their quran is always the perfect final revelation from God and yours is a corrupted, human inspired pierce of theological work.
You will never be able to convince him that it is plagiarism. Why bother? Just like you cannot convince him that his religion is barbaric because of it being poorly written as opposed to an era in which muslims are misbehaving.
It is worth it if other people reading the posts are able to see for themselves. I realize he won't admit it but others who are searching will be able to read the information I provide and then they can make their own minds up
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Plagerism is the unauthorised use of someone else's work. All scripture is inspired of God written by men for all of us. Jesus as the son of God had every right to use God's word as an adjunct to his teaching. He also always praised his father and gave him all the recognition and credit for his miracles. Jesus in using the scripture of Psalm 22 was drawing attention to the fact that he was fulfilling prophecy that had been written thousands of years earlier
The below is an example of plagerism by the koran from the bible
Bible Genesis:
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.
Quran 6:1 Praise be God, Who created the heavens and the earth, and made the darkness and the light. Yet those who reject Faith hold (others) as equal, with their Guardian-Lord.
Quran 17:12 And We appoint the night and the day two portents. Then We make dark the portent of the night, and We make the portent of the day sight-giving, that ye may seek bounty from your Lord, and that ye may know the computation of the years, and the reckoning; and everything have We expounded with a clear expounding.
To rightly evaluate the Quran, we have to compare it with the Bible. The Bible is the gold standard by which we must evaluate the Quran. Even the Quran declares that the Bible is the absolute standard. When Mohammad doubted the revelations given to him by the spirit who appeared to him at the cave of Hira,, Allah directed him to ask those who read the Bible before him
And if thou [Muhammad] art in doubt concerning that which we reveal unto thee, then question those who read the scripture [that was] before thee.
(Surat Yunus 10:94MPT).
Because of the many contradictions between the Bible and the Quran, and because the Bible does not mention any prophecies concerning Muhammad, Muslim scholars claim that the Bible has been altered and corrupted. Such a claim is totally against several clear verses of the Quran.
The Quran states explicitly that the Old and the New Testaments are the inspired word of God. Here we have to emphasize the fact that we have at least five thousand ancient manuscripts of the entire Bible which are called codices. These codices go back to the year 350 A.D. that is almost two hundred and fifty years before the birth of Muhammad. One of these ancient codices is kept in the British Museum in London, others are kept in France and in the Vatican at Rome.
Only a "perfect idiot" would call these as "cases of Plagirisation". The source of revelation is God All Mighty and He has spoken to all prophets , so why there should not be "similarity" in the two revaluations?

Plagiarism is when you "import" the passage or verses from one book without giving credit to it.

In Quran there is not a single case like that and I can quote many cases where Jesus copied verses from OT books without giving any credit to the original writer.

That could be called Plagiarism (according to your definition, not mine- MUQ)

So you confirm you are a "perfect idiot"? Do you?

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It is worth it if other people reading the posts are able to see for themselves. I realize he won't admit it but others who are searching will be able to read the information I provide and then they can make their own minds up
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Ans.
01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.
After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.
02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.
03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".
04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
Jesus didn't leave the world in a hurry he was on the earth for over 30 years. His teaching ministry was 3 years.When he did leave he fulfilled the prophecy in Psalms as written in the OT

The comforter that you are referring to was the power of God that directed his followers, nowhere was it the false prophet called Muhammad.The Muslims twist one scripture to try and show that Muhammad was that person but they are wrong

The Greek word for Comforter is “parakletos”. The most familiar translation of this Greek word is “Comforter" Muhammad was not a comforter he was a murderer, pedophille, thief, blasphemer etc etc. He was the antithesis of what Jesus stood for and taught.

Satan indwelling in Muhammad deceived Muhammad and he in turn deceived his own people.

Millions of muslims today are leaving Islam when they get to understand the false scriptures that it teaches

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Only a "perfect idiot" would call these as "cases of Plagirisation". The source of revelation is God All Mighty and He has spoken to all prophets , so why there should not be "similarity" in the two revaluations?
Plagiarism is when you "import" the passage or verses from one book without giving credit to it.
In Quran there is not a single case like that and I can quote many cases where Jesus copied verses from OT books without giving any credit to the original writer.
That could be called Plagiarism (according to your definition, not mine- MUQ)
So you confirm you are a "perfect idiot"? Do you?
No but you are the perfect idiot, and most reasonable people who read just the few short phrases that I have posted will be able to see that for themselves. We need to remember it is the bible that is the gold standard here not the koran.

Intertextuality is the shaping of texts' meanings by other texts. It can include an author’s borrowing and transformation of a text Sometimes intertextuality is taken as plagiarism . This is exactly what the koran has done

Plagerism also includes the meaning or the Remember the torah was the gold standard and was even referred to by Mohammad as the source of the truth

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Ans.
01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.
After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.
02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.
03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".
04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
Seeing god did not invent religion why did Jesus need a church ?
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Etc Muslim castes wrote:
Muslims are not equal before Allah.
Take the example of Indian Muslims.
Arab and high caste Muslims have to wash if they come in contact with a low caste muslim.
Even Indian Hindu think Islam is more racist than them! 
In india & South Asia, Muslims are divided as Ashrafs and Ajlafs. Ashrafs claim superior status derived from their foreign ancestry.
The non-Ashrafs are converts from Hinduism from the indigenous population. They, in turn, are divided into a number of occupational castes.
 The Fatawa-i Jahandari, written by  Barani
defines Ashraf Muslims as racially superior to
Ajlaf Muslims.
There is also the Arzal caste among Muslims  regarded by Babasaheb Ambedkar as  untouchables.
The Arzal or Dalit Muslims “with whom no other
Muhammadan would associate, and who are forbidden to enter the mosque or to use the public burial ground”.
South Asian Muslims stratify their society according to Quoms.
Muslims practise a ritual-based system of social stratification. 
The claims for Arabic ancestry in India are based
on Arabic racial preferences in Shariah.
But genetic studies found the Muslim population overwhelmingly similar to the local non-Muslims with only  low levels of gene flow from outside,
primarily from Iran and Central Asia, rather than the Arabian Peninsula.
The Sachar Committee's report released in 2006, documents the stratification in Muslim society.
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Upon contact with a low-caste Muslim, a Muslim of a higher zat can "purify" by taking a short
bath, since there are no elaborate rituals for
purification. 
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In  “Imdad ul-Fatawa”, Thanvi announced that ‘nau-Muslims’, non-Arab converts to Islam, cannot be considered for purposes of marriage, of ‘established Muslims’ 
 Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like features in Indian Muslim society as a  violation of the Qur'anic worldview."
Dr B.R. argued the social evils in Muslim society
were "worse than those in Hindu society".[126][127]
Babasaheb Ambedkar the chief architect of the Indian Constitution. said of the  Muslim Caste System "Within these groups, castes of social precedence as one finds among the Hindus but
worse in
Pakistani-American sociologist Ayesha Jalal in her book, "Democracy and Authoritarianism in South Asia",that "Despite egalitarian principles, Islam in South Asia has been unable to avoid the impact of class and caste inequalities. 
Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.
The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).
No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other intepretation.
But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
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Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.
The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).
No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other intepretation.
But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
Truthfully I doubt most muslims feel that way regarding their brotherhood. Obliviously within their own sect in the religion. Especially those who meet together in mosques in the west. It is said that people who were enemies in their homelands become friends in their new lands like Australia. E.g. Pakistanis and Indians, Czechs and Croatians, Chinese and Japanese, Greeks and Turks etc... I have seen some of the above examples personally.

Of course that is not always the case. Anyhow, it is their own folly if they choose to divide and conquer themselves and play the to the tune of their imperialist past; both native and the invader. The War Song in which the Mughals conquered India and killed 80 million and burnt their temples and desecrated their gods. So bad and cruel were the Mughals that Indian widows began burning themselves to death, a reason which later manifested to other reasons and becoming a cultural shame to India.

An alternative comparison is how Buddhism was spread by the text and scrolls and monks scurrying between China and India. India and South East Asia and Central Asia. China, Korea and Japan. None in which we saw Indian Buddhist armies in action stepping out of their border unlike we see with Islam. Which fought along the Mediterranean and Eastward crushing Persia then India.
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True Islam wrote:
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Must suck being an Indian Muslim.
They are the lowest of the low in both India and in Islam.
For example any Arab Muslims HAVE to wash if they come into any contact with an Indian Muslim.
Indian Muslim are not allowed to speak or interact with an Arab Muslim.
Within the Indian muslims are castes.

The indian Muslims in these castes then viciously discriminate against each other, pretending they have superior or nor Arab bloodlines (none do).

No indian Muslim will get into Allah heaven as alllah is an Arab god only. Says so in the Quran.
Says so also in all the haadith & other
intepretation.

But the penalty for renouncing Islam is death.
So the Indian Muslims are now a trapped slave
sub race of Islam who kept ignorant, denied the full rights of being Islam and do not represent Islam. Even the Indian Hindu feel sorry for the Indian Muslim because they lack the courage to
make choices for themselves.
Such is the nature of true Islam.
So the British in fact liberated the Indian hindu against the oppression of Islam ?
All Indians today should be eternally grateful to the british for this liberation.
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Etc Muslim castes wrote:
Muslims are not equal before Allah.
Take the example of Indian Muslims.
Arab and high caste Muslims have to wash if they come in contact with a low caste muslim.
Even Indian Hindu think Islam is more racist than them! 
In india & South Asia, Muslims are divided as Ashrafs and Ajlafs. Ashrafs claim superior status derived from their foreign ancestry.

The non-Ashrafs are converts from Hinduism from the indigenous population. They, in turn, are divided into a number of occupational castes.

 The Fatawa-i Jahandari, written by  Barani defines Ashraf Muslims as racially superior to Ajlaf Muslims.

There is also the Arzal caste among Muslims  regarded by Babasaheb Ambedkar as  
untouchables.
 Arzal castes are subdivided into Bhanar, Halalkhor, Hijra, Kasbi, Lalbegi, Maugta, Mehtar etc.

The Arzal or Dalit Muslims “with whom no other Muhammadan would associate, and who are
forbidden to enter the mosque or to use the public burial ground”.
South Asian Muslims stratify their society according to Quoms.
Muslims practise a ritual-based system of social
stratification. 
The Quoms who deal with human waste are ranked the lowest. 
The claims for Arabic ancestry in India are based on Arabic racial preferences in Shariah.

But genetic studies found the Muslim population overwhelmingly similar to the local non-Muslims with only  low levels of gene flow from outside,
primarily from Iran and Central Asia, rather than the Arabian Peninsula.
The Sachar Committee's report released in 2006, documents the continued stratification in Muslim society.

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Upon contact with a low-caste Muslim, a Muslim of a higher zat can "purify" by taking a short
bath, since there are no elaborate rituals for purification. 
********
In  “Imdad ul-Fatawa”, Thanvi announced that
‘nau-Muslims’, non-Arab converts to Islam, cannot be considered for purposes of marriage, of ‘established Muslims’ 
 Muslim scholars have termed the caste-like
features in Indian Muslim society as a  violation of the Qur'anic worldview."
Dr B.R. argued the social evils in Muslim society were "worse than those in Hindu society".[126][127]
Babasaheb Ambedkar the chief architect of the Indian Constitution. said of the  Muslim Caste System "Within these groups, castes of social precedence as one finds among the Hindus but worse in numerous ways". He said Muslims
sugarcoat caste  divide by using euphemisms like "brotherhood".
He was  critical of the scripture that keep the Muslim Caste system rigid and discriminatory. 
He decried against the approval of Shariah to Muslim casteism. 
The Arabian supermacy in Indian Muslims accounted for its equal disapproval by high and low caste Hindus during 1300 years of Islamic presence in India. He condemned the Indian
Muslim Community.
Pakistani-American sociologist Ayesha Jalal writes, in her book, "Democracy and Authoritarianism in South Asia",that "Despite its egalitarian principles, Islam in South Asia
historically has been unable to avoid the impact of class and caste inequalities. 
MUQ this is enlightening, unbelievable how cruel Islam is to non Arabs & what you live under,
What Zat or sub caste of Indian Islam are you ?

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http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

Third, these twisted variants all serve a purpose. Muhammad used them to justify the inclusion of Qusayy's pagan practices into Islam. They gave the Five Pillars, all of which were pagan, some semblance of monotheistic credibility. Time and again, Muhammad rewrote Jewish history to make Allah, Mecca, the Ka'aba, Hajj and himself seem worthy of veneration. He recast Adam, Noah, and Abraham as Muslim Messengers focused on Mecca.

If Adam, Noah, and Abraham weren't Muslims, then the preponderance of the Qur'an was stolen, not revealed. There's no other explanation for Allah’s dependence on the Bible and Talmud. So Muhammad must convince us that the Jewish patriarchs worshiped Allah, received Qur'anic revelations, made journeys to Mecca, built the Ka'aba, worshiped there, and performed a complex array of Islamic rituals. If he fails in this regard, if his revisionist stories aren't believable, then the Qur'an is a forgery, Islam is a counterfeit, and Muhammad was a fraud. That being the case, there is no justification for them to kill us over it.

Finally, Muhammad corrupts the lives and words of Adam, Noah, Lot, and Abraham to excuse his pathetic existence. The Islamic Adam had a cavalry; he was a warrior and a tyrant just like Muhammad. Like the Islamic prophet, the Muslim Cain was guilty of incest; he was driven to murder by lust. The Islamic Noah wanted his people to be slaughtered for mocking him. The Islamic Abraham destroyed the small idols so that his people would turn to the largest one. Muhammad recast these men in his image. They were all embroiled in arguments with their peers that mirrored Muhammad’s Meccan trials. In each case Allah punished those who rejected the messenger just as Muhammad claims he will torment those who deny him.

With Muhammad’s agenda in mind, let's march ahead. Tabari I:335 "Seth stayed in Mecca performing the hajj pilgrimage and the lesser umrah until he died. He added the scrolls revealed by Allah to those of his father, Adam, and acted in accordance with their contents. He built the Ka'aba with stones and clay." If the Ka'aba gets one more builder it's going to become the Tower of Babel.

In the interim, we have scrolls of babel: "The people of the Torah said,'Enoch was born to Jared. Allah granted him the gift of prophecy. He revealed thirty scrolls to him. He was the first after Adam to write and to exert himself in Allah’s Cause [Jihad]. He was the first to cut and sew clothes. He was the first to lead some of Cain's descendants into captivity and to enslave them.'" Not to be picky, but I thought that Eve was a stay-at-home mom. And I suppose fighting made Enoch the first good Muslim, a devout religious lad following in the footsteps of Muhammad.

We now have one hundred scrolls. How is it then that the first mentioned in the Qur'an were from Abraham and Moses, who have yet to be born? Qur'an 87:18: "This is surely in the earlier Books, the Books of Abraham and Moses."
To be continued

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Jan 17, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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01. Jesus left the world "all of a sudden and in a hurry" and never did "organized" his so called Church. He preached in Jewish Synagogues and in open spaces.

ANS-1, Jesus was sacrificed for his preachings of nothing but love for all mankind and rightous as the son of man, he peached in open spaces not to the eliet, but to the common people, the down trodden, to those who only felt hopelessness.

After his death his chosen disciples tried to continue his mission, but they were very much convinced that "end of world is near and Lord's return is imminent.

ANS-2 Yes his diciples did continue to preach the message of love and tollerence to all who would listen as Jesus commanded.

02. You are right, the Devil would not tolerate that any Prophet's mission should be completed unhindered, and he tries to mislead people.
In case of Christianity he did it thru St. Paul, a person who had not known Jesus Christ at all…. It was thru him that Devil introduced the concept of Divinity of Jesus Christ, the idea of Original Sin and Jesus dieing for the Sin of humankind and concept of Living Under the Grace.
Jesus did not preach any of these ideas during his entire life, but because of "efforts" of St. Paul, they became the "Fundamental article of Faith" for Christianity.

ANS-3 Jesus said many times that he was son of the living god, this is why the Jews kept accusing him of blasmerphy, as for st paul, Christians dont worship him , only Jesus the son of god sent to the earth to teach mankind the message of love and tollerence.

03. Jesus did speak of "many false prophets to come after him" but at "No Place" Jesus said that he is the Last and Final Prophet!! He gave a test to distinguish between a True prophet of God and a False prophet of God.
Jesus while going away about "Another Comforter" who will come after him and guide people to "All Truth".

ANS-4, Jesus said ` I am the way, the truth and the light` He is the lamb of god, No man shall enter the kindom of heavon without first accepting the lord Jesus Christ as there lord and savoiur.

04. Any "unbiased and free minded person" when he or she studies teachings of Our prophet and his true life history" would be "more than convinced" that our prophet was a Genuine Prophet of God and he was the one which Jesus talked about as "Another Comforter".
Hundreds and thousands of Christians (including their Scholars and Priests have come into fold of Islam in past 1400 years and many more are accepting Islam every day.).
That is why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and it is growing in almost every Christian country!!
I have collected many such stories of new converts to Islam, you can view them by link given below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48256877/
This is a sample list and there could be many times more people who have accepted Islam in past 100 years. Only God knows their exact numbers.
How many were convinced of the truth of islam, but did not have "moral courage" to come forward and declare it, only God knows their numbers.
The "die hard" believers of St Paul like yourself and your friend Shielaa the Great have to answer many Questions when you confront Jesus in the hereafter!!
PS:
May be your post is a cue. I will start posting the Journey from Christianity to Islam by Capt. Odonga
ANS-5 No MUQ, you and islam are simply a diversion from the path of Christ and will have to answer to god for trying to turn his children from him.

St paul means nothing to the children of the lamb as they only follow the message of Christ, islams growth around the world is only due to conversions of the sword in nations full of simple and sadistic men searching for a religion that will justify there attrocities as islam and your prophet mohummed does.

And dispite the evil done in the nations of islam the lamb of god still grows in rightous mens hearts and many stand firm in there walk with Christ and his message.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

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Jan 17, 2013
 
SC wrote:
01. To a muslim, their Quran is always the perfect final revelation from God and yours is a corrupted, human inspired pierce of theological work.

02. You will never be able to convince him that it is plagiarism. Why bother? Just like you cannot convince him that his religion is barbaric because of it being poorly written as opposed to an era in which muslims are misbehaving.
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01. You have spoken the Truth my dear fellow!! Because there is Only One Quran that existed in the world from the time it was revealed to our prophet …. And there are Hundreds of Biblical version in existence, each with difference in content and interpretation.

Any “unbiased” person when seeing the two documents would come to the “same conclusion” as Muslims do!!

02. How it can be plagiarism, when there is not a “Single verse in Quran that is copied from Bible verbatim”?

When I show you cases in which Jesus borrowed verses from earlier books, you say “He had a right to it because he was a Jew”!!

And by the way, you do not know what is Barbarism, do you?

Define what is Barbarism and trace history of Europe and tell me the date from which they “Turned away from Barbarism and moved towards Humanism”!!
MUQ

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Jan 17, 2013
 

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Neville Thompson wrote:
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Seeing god did not invent religion why did Jesus need a church ?
Do not ask me, ask these Bible Thumpers and "worshippers" of Jesus this question!!

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