Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 20 comments on the Dec 23, 2007, Scoop story titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Since: Jan 13

Greensborough, Australia

#36057 Jan 12, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Sitting on arse and fornicating again senile sid while we do the work of saving your forum?
Stop crying to Chris Tolles, you're a Paid Topix Moderator, that's why you expect special treatment! Now Tiny, Drop The Stick, Good Dog!
Gnostic

Australia

#36059 Jan 12, 2013
Casey wrote:
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There all the same, a good judge of what people will do in the future is too look at their past
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/
Pathetic backward third century savages...... NUKE EM
http://edgecast.metatube-files.buscafs.com/up...
Satins Supporters
I am completely sympathetic towards u and your experiences,
Now I'm Lebanese and from a Christian family,
I have seemed to notice that many people from my parents country claim to be religious,
Wether their Christian Muslim Druze wat eva,
Now In the Islamic faith it's haram to drink alcohol and do drugs, basically anything that inhibits ur natural state of being, which is understandable!
But go to the cross n u will c lebos who r Muslim off their heads!

N Christians, forgive and forget, turn the other cheek, help thy neighbour!
Common!! How is Australia a Christian country, when their shitting all over the Middle East,
Same with the USA n Great Britain

Wat I'm saying is ,"HUMANITY is screwed on a whole, it's not any specific ethnic group"!

N as for ur ex n ur bad experiences, it's not right, we rnt all like that, I know if I did that to any woman I'd b shot, belted then shot!

Keep faith sista n don't become a hater n discriminator! ;)
Gershom

Australia

#36060 Jan 12, 2013
Gnostic wrote:
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I am completely sympathetic towards u and your experiences,
Now I'm Lebanese and from a Christian family,
I have seemed to notice that many people from my parents country claim to be religious,
Wether their Christian Muslim Druze wat eva,
Now In the Islamic faith it's haram to drink alcohol and do drugs, basically anything that inhibits ur natural state of being, which is understandable!
But go to the cross n u will c lebos who r Muslim off their heads!
N Christians, forgive and forget, turn the other cheek, help thy neighbour!
Common!! How is Australia a Christian country, when their shitting all over the Middle East,
Same with the USA n Great Britain
Wat I'm saying is ,"HUMANITY is screwed on a whole, it's not any specific ethnic group"!
N as for ur ex n ur bad experiences, it's not right, we rnt all like that, I know if I did that to any woman I'd b shot, belted then shot!
Keep faith sista n don't become a hater n discriminator! ;)
Interesting analogy,

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2...

I don't buy it, What was the reason for this on Thursday ?
Kirk

Australia

#36061 Jan 12, 2013
Gershom wrote:
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Interesting analogy,
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2...
I don't buy it, What was the reason for this on Thursday ?
Don't worry about it we know its a
Bernard

Australia

#36062 Jan 12, 2013
A world gone insane
Madness Terror.
MalbarCACA Controller

UK

#36063 Jan 12, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Hey fooking moron, what are you afraid of, why as Romeo the Paid Topix Moderator do you delete our posts and threads.
Can't stand getting kicked in the arse and ridiculed?
Hahahahahaha, here is the fooking BastardCunt Moderator deleting our posts and he has the folly to ask us if we are a Paid Topix Moderator?
Shit for brains expect Tiny Chris Tolles to learn all about your insanity.
Shut your fat CACASTINK Shortzenegger gob, FOOKING PONNJABI coward BASTARDCUNT trash
ROMEO you filthy POONJABi Bastardcunt BABOON ...
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The Anti-Muhammad wrote:
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Stop crying to Chris Tolles, you're a Paid Topix Moderator, that's why you expect special treatment! Now Tiny, Drop The Stick, Good Dog!

Hey fooking moron, what are you afraid of, why as Romeo the Paid Topix Moderator do you delete our posts and threads.

Can't stand getting kicked in the arse and ridiculed?

Hahahahahaha, here is the fooking BastardCunt Moderator deleting our posts and he has the folly to ask us if we are a Paid Topix Moderator?

Shit for brains expect Tiny Chris Tolles to learn all about your insanity.

Shut your fat CACASTINK Shortzenegger gob, FOOKING PONNJABI coward BASTARDCUNT trash

ROMEO you filthy POONJABi Bastardcunt BABOON ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T6 ...

Fresh in: The Unknown Bastard has problems.....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T2 ...
/T64QH9EKL1J5U3FFG#lastPost
Fresh in: The Unknown Bastard has problems.....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T2...
Another casualty
alfie

Sydney, Australia

#36064 Jan 12, 2013
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ofarrell-moves-to-s...

Sharia blasphemy laws coming out way thanks to our traitor politicians.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36065 Jan 12, 2013
The Profilers wrote:
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DELETE YOUR PROFILE
DICKHEAD HighChair Baulkham Hills, Australia , midget MalbarCACA Punjabi Sikh baboon
Go away Foo
Good work Muslims

Islamabad, Pakistan

#36066 Jan 12, 2013
alfie wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ofar rell-moves-to-strengthen-hate- laws-20130112-2cmh5.html
Sharia blasphemy laws coming out way thanks to our traitor politicians.
Thank you, we in Pakistan fully support enforcement of Sharia world wide, it is the only way to fix up the mess this world is in;

in Pakistan we are paying the price with our own country men's blood and behind this bloodletting is your Christian politicians who are double traitors? First to their own people and then us ordinary Muslims through our inept corrupt leadership. Peace.
MalbarCACA

Brisbane, Australia

#36067 Jan 12, 2013
Good work Muslims wrote:
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Thank you, we in Pakistan fully support enforcement of Sharia world wide, it is the only way to fix up the mess this world is in;
in Pakistan we are paying the price with our own country men's blood and behind this bloodletting is your Christian politicians who are double traitors? First to their own people and then us ordinary Muslims through our inept corrupt leadership. Peace.
Sharia law, created by animals to cuntrol animals.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#36068 Jan 12, 2013
Good work Muslims wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, we in Pakistan fully support enforcement of Sharia world wide, it is the only way to fix up the mess this world is in;
in Pakistan we are paying the price with our own country men's blood and behind this bloodletting is your Christian politicians who are double traitors? First to their own people and then us ordinary Muslims through our inept corrupt leadership. Peace.
Please explain how Sharia stops Shi'ite Pakistani's from being bombed to death ?
The Sewer RATs Catchers

Los Angeles, CA

#36070 Jan 12, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Please explain how Sharia stops Shi'ite Pakistani's from being bombed to death ?
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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#36071 Jan 12, 2013
Q wrote:
.
1. How could Abraham have visited Mecca when it did not exist in any form until 150 ad according to the Yemmenite and other historical records on it's establishment.

Q. Do you have any NON Islamic, ie independent and pre Islamic archeological or historical evidence that Mecca existed before 150ad ?
Ans.

01. I am not aware of any "Yemenite Records" that "Confirm" that Makkah was established in 150 AD. It is you who is making this type of wild claim.

Why should I waste my time and try to "prove" to you that Makkah existed from the time of Prophet Abraham's visit.

Whatever evidences we have from Islamic sources, they are all logical, straight forward and they all add to each other.

For "doubting Thomas" type of people, no evidence on the earth could be 'enough".

PS:

We just had a "news" that scientists "discovered" a "New Galaxy" which is five times larger than our Milky way.

Could we say that this Galaxy did not exist "before Jan 10, 2013" and any one saying that it existed prior to this time, should bring historical and scientific and archeological evidence that it did exist before this time.

Your question is of such type.

How could that Yemenite Record because so authentic and so solid that you reject entire Islamic literature?

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#36072 Jan 12, 2013
NT wrote:
01. Wouldn't that be some sort of Paganism both his Lordship as well as the black stone.

I see nothing wrong with it seeing they are used as a conduit to relate to your supreme being.

Much like the wooden cross that Jesus was crucified on that now adorns most things and people's lives.
Ans.

01. There is no 'Paganism" if you do some thing which your prophet did.

There is no comparison between "Cross on which Jesus was hanged" and "Black Stone" installed in Kaaba.

Jesus did not gave any "respect" to that cross and as to my knowledge "none of his chosen disciples had any thing to do with it".

Authenticity of the 'so called original cross is always in doubt" and no one can prove it is the same.

2. The black stone on the other hand was touched by the hands and lips of Prophet Abraham, Prophet Ishmael and Prophet Mohammad, peace and mercy of Allah be on all of them.

Its authenticity and genuineness is guaranteed and kissing it does not violate any Commandment of God.

So do not compare an apple against as orange.

Jake

Australia

#36073 Jan 12, 2013
"Every month, our people are killed in gun attacks or with bombs," she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory...

Won't bury their fellow muslim's bodies , what a bunch of fcked up hate filled backward APES
Jake

Australia

#36074 Jan 12, 2013
The Sewer RATs Catchers wrote:
<quoted text>
Ohi, quit reiterating and start paying in principle for PSYCHO CACA FuddiHEAD GOAT ROOTING POOF UnKnown Bastard RUPERT
Anti-Muhammad PIN DICK PRICK POOFTER and his army of hide behind my ASS! with intent do express SPAM FACTORY, PSYCHO
CACA FuddiHEAD GOAT ROOTING POOF More and more SPAMalot FUKINGAYHOMOSEXUAL MalbarCACA SPAMMERs, REAL AGITATORs,
TROUBLEMAKERs, IMPOSTORs, SmellyARSIE MODERATORs, TRANNYs, PIMPs, NONCEs, SHEMAlEs, FUCKTURDs, DANCING LADYBOYs and
TOPIX PAID TROLLS shows up here you support and condone.
Post for each one hundred strong in mind and body lap dancer:
Your IDs (Muzzie, MalbarCACA, Topix Paid TROLL or Nibiruan)
Your real full names
Your actual locations and addresses
Your Emails
Your real genuine telephone numbers
And add to that every singular loo and public convenience anal extra curriculum activities that you have Bended Over in search of festering sore butt gratification.
We want no lies, fabrications, attitude or dillydallying but the bottom line now and nothing else will do.
Then
Condemn, reprehend, admonish Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK) in all her guises for her abusive
actions, conduct and behaviour in all Topix forums.
Condemn Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK) for her racist, bigoted and prejudiced opinions,views,comments and remarks.
Reprehend Julie chamberpot WORLD People(Iford Romford UK) for being a black dalit sewer rat chharchhobi transvestite
MalbarKAKALatrine FUCKTARD and his cohorts for causing irreparable damage to the Australian and Mauritian forums.
Admonish Julie chamberpot WORLD People(IfordRomford UK) for being a scumbag, an ignorant buffoon and a worthless
vermin scumbags and VERMIN.
Condemn, Reprehend, admonish PoonJABI Sikh The Anti-Muhammad Singh The ADELAIDEAN for being a lunatic, madman, deranged, demented, crazy, FUCKTURD like yourself.
When done, DELETE your PROFILE.
You got your name right,Sewer. Maybe you should name yourself
MUSLIM SEWER MOUTH.

Why are you so ashamed to be a muslim, you have no pride or shame.
Q for MUQ

Saint Marys, Australia

#36075 Jan 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. I am not aware of any "Yemenite Records" that "Confirm" that Makkah was established in 150 AD. It is you who is making this type of wild claim.
Why should I waste my time and try to "prove" to you that Makkah existed from the time of Prophet Abraham's visit.
Whatever evidences we have from Islamic
sources, they are all logical, straight forward and they all add to each other.
For "doubting Thomas" type of people, no evidence on the earth could be 'enough".
PS:

We just had a "news" that scientists "discovered" a "New Galaxy" which is five times larger than our Milky way.
Could we say that this Galaxy did not exist
"before Jan 10, 2013" and any one saying that it existed prior to this time, should bring historical and scientific and archeological evidence that it did exist before this time.
Your question is of such type.
How could that Yemenite Record because so authentic and so solid that you reject entire Islamic literature?
MUQ, the very basis of Islam is the Abrahamic lineage plus the claim that Abraham, Hagar & Ishmael visited and settled in Mecca.
But according to historical and archeological evidence Mecca did not exist in any form until 150ad.
Therefore Abraham, Hagar. Ishmael could not have been to Mecca because it did not exist.

This is not about what is still to be discovered in the universe and or other such Taqiyya in deceit and deflection but establishing fact to a claim.
The question of you is simple and also at the heart of this topic "why Australians fear Muslims" to provide some assurance to what are otherwise wild and unsubstantiated claims made by Islam.
Let's try again.
• Can you provide any non Islamic ie proper historical or archeological evidence / that shows
Mecca existed prior to 150 ad ?
Thanks
Abu t

Sydney, Australia

#36076 Jan 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. There is no 'Paganism" if you do some thing which your prophet did.
There is no comparison between "Cross on which Jesus was hanged" and "Black Stone" installed in Kaaba.
Jesus did not gave any "respect" to that cross and as to my knowledge "none of his chosen disciples had any thing to do with it".
Authenticity of the 'so called original cross is always in doubt" and no one can prove it is the same.
2. The black stone on the other hand was touched by the hands and lips of Prophet
Abraham, Prophet Ishmael and Prophet Mohammad, peace and mercy of Allah be on all of them.
Its authenticity and genuineness is guaranteed and kissing it does not violate any Commandment of God.
So do not compare an apple against as orange.
MUQ although Christians revere relics like all religions do - we do not worship them as gods
like say Hindu or Islam. Muslims are not meant to worship the black rock (Allah as Mo's voice puppet called it the black rock in Arabic).
Anyway to the point.
The black rock could not have been kissed by abraham as abraham never went to Mecca
because Mecca and the Kaaba did not exist until many thousands of years after Abraham.
Abraham never went to and had no cause to go to Mecca. He would hardly be chasing an outcast
slave and teenage bastard offspring that had no religious legitimacy (pagan slaves) and who had been outcast for being heretics and mocking Abraham and god ( read your bible old testament for the version from the people that would know).
Back to the black rock or should we say fragments.
Abu Tahir destroyed Mecca, the Kaaba and took the black rock for 18 years. During this time Abu Tahir defiled the black rock including using it as a latrine, a toilet, a urinal and also casting it into fire and animal offal ;pig fat etc).
Abu Tahir then publicly destroyed the black rock and smashed it into many thousands of fragments and caste these into a cesspool.
Some 'fragments' were 'found' years later when Abu Tahir died. Bit like the relics of the holy cross from Syria, no one could ever really know what was real anyway..
But then in 1922 the british who owned the ME including Mecca with their proxy and crooked emir saud, tested the black rock fragments and found it to be common fieldspar, not meteoric.
So the black rock from the heavens worshipped as hubal sin then Allah was either defiled and invalidated or simply faked.
Either way the Muslims are not worshipping the lord of the kaaba but the object fragments.
Clearly pagan and perhaps false or invalid worhship ESP if of a fake or defiled object.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#36077 Jan 12, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_03_I...

Throughout the Sunnah and Qur'an Muhammad falsely attributes Muslim prophet and messenger status to Biblical characters in order to remake them in his image. Most every prophet/messenger listed in the Qur'an came from the Bible, including: Adam, Noah, Seth, Abraham, Lot, Jacob, Joshua, Jonah, Job, Moses, David, Solomon, Saul, Elijah, Ezra, Enoch, John, and Jesus. Moses is mentioned by name in 500 verses, Abraham in 250. Muhammad’s non-Biblical list consists of mistakes and myths. For example, the oft-mentioned Hud was from the mythical land of "Ad." (Something Muhammad couldn't do.)

"I asked the Messenger,'Who was the first of them.' He replied,'Adam.' I asked him whether Adam was a prophet sent as a messenger. He replied,'Yes, Allah created him with His own hand and blew some of His spirit into him. Then He immediately fashioned him in perfect shape.'" So much for fermenting him.(Qur'an 15:26 & Tabari I:261)

Tabari I:324 "When Adam was about to die, he called his son Seth and appointed him his heir. He taught him the hours of day and night and how the creatures should worship in each hour. He informed him that each hour had its special kind of creatures to worship in it. Then he said,'Son, the Flood will be on earth and last seven years.' Adam wrote his will and addressed it to him." While there is substantial evidence of the Biblical flood, it did not last seven years, and if Adam had been a prophet he would have gotten the facts right. Further, we were just told that animals are to practice Islam, worshiping, at prescribed hours.

"After Adam's death, political leadership fell to Seth. According to a tradition on the authority of the Messenger, Allah revealed fifty scrolls to Seth." That would mean that between Adam and Seth, there were seventy-one scrolls of scripture. You'd think that with this vast quantity of divine revelation, the great Messenger of Allah would tell us something about their contents, some divine truth, perhaps. No. Sorry. Not even a hint. That's because they never existed, and since they didn't exist, they were hard to plagiarize. "'O Messenger of Allah, how many books did Allah reveal.' He replied,'104.'" Assuming that the Qur'an was one of them, what's in the other 103?

We have this treasure on the authority of the Messenger, Tabari I:328 "When the angel of death came to seize Adam, he said,'You have come too early. Sixty of my years remain.' The angel of death replied,'Nothing remains. You gave those sixty years to your son David.' The Messenger continued,'Adam denied it, and so on that day Allah established written documents and commanded the use of witnesses.'" David was 3,000 years removed from Adam - hardly his son. And how can writing have been established while Adam was on his deathbed? Just a moment ago, Allah said he gave Adam twenty-one written scrolls and taught him the alphabet.

To be continued
For MUQ Sheiila Neville

Sydney, Australia

#36078 Jan 13, 2013
Just reading the Quran as you do on Sunday...

 In Sura 10:95 there is a  demand by Allah to his revelations [Quran] to be verified by Christians. 
Allah is not telling his Muhammad to seek Christian experts, but instead from those ‘who read the scriptures’[i.e. ordinary Christians]. 

Allah tells his prophet or followers of Islam that if they have any doubts about the Quran, to learn from ordinary Christians. 

Allah is stating that the Christians are the teacher and Muhammad or muslims are the student in this sura. 

Allah is confirming that the Quran is interpretive (follows and does not overide the Scriptures [Bible] as the old and new testament are
absolutely correct and from God. 

Muslims will then use Taqiyya or deception to claim the bible was 'changed'.
But we know from archeological, historical and pre Islamic religious records the bible was not changed.

So every time there is doubt or contradiction in Islam, muslims must ask the Christians to
confirm what is right and wrong.

Allah confirms the Bible overrides the Quran – the Quran also has to comply with the Bible to 
authenticate it. 

Anything  in the Quran, not complying with the Bible is absolutely wrong, according to Allah.

This is what Allah states in sura 10:95.

So MUQ unfortunately you went to considerable lengths to expand on the story of Jospeh etc as
garbled up or distorted into the Quran.
But the Bible overrides this.
And Sheiila (if a christian?) or others who are Christian completely  override your opinion - you have to accept the bible or any common Christian believer view as truth as that overrides the Quran or your view.
Allah says so in sura 10:95.
A Muslim can ask but not tell a christian about the bible, otherwise the muslim is a sinner before Allah.
May god and Allah forgive you MUQ - you do not know even how badly you have sinned in front of Allah by preaching your false and subservient views of the bible to Christians.

As a general note MUQ I don't think you have read the Quran or perhaps don't actually understand it. I mean that in the nicest way possible, you refer to it but clearly haven't read it and show you don't get it conceptually either or in context to how the whole tawdry mish mash evolved and why.

So your own god and instruction may be helpful here. Allah says you need to accept and comply with christian guidance and direction in how to
understand your beliefs.
Muq if you can follow that Instruction from Allah we may be able to get you more enlightened.

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