Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

[Black Rock continued]

Black rock wrote:

On the black Rock itself - that has quite a story.
Every town had a Kaaba or storage and ablutions area for the black rock ritual originally in pre Muhammad times.
The Rocks (plural, there were many in different towns) were gathered from an area of the desert that did have meteriotes exposed in the sand.
The iron and nickel content even then was known to be unusual.
The Arabs worshipped the venus god of fertility (the islams still call Venus a star) and the moon
god of blood shedding (female menstruation).
The Vedic based haj ritual celebrates the conduction of the moon and Venus for fertility.
The actual ritual was that the Arabs would gather and circumlocate the Kaaba and the woman
would touch and daub their menses onto the rock.
The men would touch, smell and taste the
menses on the rock and then select a partner.
Muslims were originally naked and then later naked under a cotton (Muslim) shift.
It's a Vedic ritual tailored to Arab stone object.
The Kaaba itself was a washing up area.
All around the Kaaba were hovels or tents used
for the sex ritual. Photos up until 1850 show Mecca and the Kabba in this way as well as extensive evidence from adventurers or participants who sneaked into the ritual and then later wrote about it.
Arabs were very inbred. The haj ritual was a ritualized way of aggrerating & interspersing
genes across nomadic people.
Like goats or camels, it was a breeding ritual adapted to their needs and environment.
Muhammad was a big follower of the Sabian or
sex ritual and thus incorporated it into Tuba'h's earlier works.
The moon and venus star (planet) conjunction is
an indicator of timing to breed etc and still today remains as the dominant symbols of Islam.
Today all Muslims are compelled to do the haj ie
share and breed with others even if it's in a ritualistic form.
You will see on video the Muslims will sniff,
touch, lick and taste the black rock if they can
get close enough to it (well millions only ever get to go around just pointing at it).
Muhammad destroyed the other kaaba's and
black rocks to centralize & control it from Mecca..
Jerusalem was still the holier place and the earth heaven portal,,, but after the fallout with the Jews and that Jerusalem was not under their control, Mekka was reluctantly made the earth/
heaven portal.
Abu Tahir then stole and destroyed the Rock...

So you can see how the black rock object worship ties together.
Muhammad centalised the black rock worship to Mecca only (previously there were many such kabbas and black rocks. The Sabian moon god cult is one of blood shedding & worship.
The circumlocation of the black rock (haj) is
based on a fertility ritual. That the woman daubed their menses or genital body fluids on the rock, and that the men sniffed, licked and tasted the woman's fluids is without doubt.
In the Quran itself.
Tabari I:303 " it was a white
jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears - tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said,'Why and how did it turn black.'
He replied,'Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance - i.e. pre-Islam]'"
Muhammad incoroprated the sabian moon god black rock ritual into Tuba'hs earlier work on the 'book of rules' to create the apostacy of Islam.
Today Muslims slaver to taste or touch the
black rock, The haj is a highly sexually charged pagan fertility rite.
At Mekka are thousands of prostitutes servicing the needs of the 'pilgrims'.
Shia make " temporary marriages " with the prostitute to legitimize this.
Sunni as heretics say this is a sin is ok as Allah knew Muhammad did it and even Muhammads
wife's knew that Muhammad was having sex with strange woman in the black rock ritual (many Quran references to this..).
This is how fake and duplicitous Islam is.

[Neville Thompson]

Black Rock continued wrote:

<quoted text>
So you can see how the black rock object worship ties together.
Muhammad centalised the black rock worship to Mecca only (previously there were many such kabbas and black rocks. The Sabian moon god cult is one of blood shedding & worship.
The circumlocation of the black rock (haj) is
based on a fertility ritual. That the woman daubed their menses or genital body fluids on the rock, and that the men sniffed, licked and tasted the woman's fluids is without doubt.
In the Quran itself.
Tabari I:303 " it was a white
jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears - tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said,'Why and how did it turn black.'
He replied,'Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance - i.e. pre-Islam]'"
Muhammad incoroprated the sabian moon god black rock ritual into Tuba'hs earlier work on the 'book of rules' to create the apostacy of Islam.
Today Muslims slaver to taste or touch the
black rock, The haj is a highly sexually charged pagan fertility rite.
At Mekka are thousands of prostitutes servicing the needs of the 'pilgrims'.
Shia make " temporary marriages " with the prostitute to legitimize this.
Sunni as heretics say this is a sin is ok as Allah knew Muhammad did it and even Muhammads
wife's knew that Muhammad was having sex with strange woman in the black rock ritual (many Quran references to this..).
This is how fake and duplicitous Islam is.

Seeing MUQ is our inhouse authority on all things Islam I can't understand why we haven't read this before.
MUQ,if you are reading this I would like your input,and that we may all look upon this as a learning experience.

[Q for MUQ]

List of questions for MUQ then.
Point form so each can be dealt with.
• Did Tuba'h write the original 'book of rules' for the Arabs with Jewish collaboration ?
• Was Tuba'hs scripture and belief system established in south yemmen to Mecca where Muhammad was exposed to these scripts and belief systems. In fact Muhammad being a jewish missionary supported by the medina Jews to promote these beliefs as part of the control the red sea Jews were trying to establish with the pagan Arabs for the caravan trade?
• Is this book of rules by Tuba'h almost exactly the same as large parts of the 'original' Quran ?
• Did Muhammad decide in 624 ad to unilaterally promote Allah to be the supreme god replacing yahweh. Based on the rejection by the Jews of
Muhammads unsubstantiated claim to be a
prophet.
• Was Khadija (Muhammad's first wife) his half sister/aunt who owned a lot of camels but no son heirs thus force married to muhammad to protect her inheritance.
Wasn't khadija and her family the major
beneficiary of Muhhamads betrayal of the medina Jews as they then took over control of the caravan trade ?
Doesn't this point to Khadija and her tribe 'using' Muhammad (a known religious nutter) to invent a religion to their tawdry purposes of stealing the Jewish position of control of trade in medina ?

• Isn't the entire Quran as a book a confused and apologitic justification by Muhammad as to how he was 'forced' into creating Allah and
attacking the Jews - because they would not recginise his claim as a jewish prophet equal to Moses ?

• How did Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael visit Mecca when it was not established until 150ad.

• What historical or geological evidence exists of
Mecca prior to 150 ad ?

Wasn't the first Kabba at Mecca a tent
established in 340 ad. And that no permanent
structure was built until 450ad ?

Did Abu Tahir destroy the Kabba in 930 ad and take away and destroy the black rock ?

• Isn't the black rock today at Mecca some fragments glued together as a veneer approx 8" x
8" by 2" thick, ie the size of an iPad mini ?

• Is there considerable doubt this is the true
black rock - as Abu Tahir had used the black rock as an urinal and latrine thus defiling it and then he publicly destroyed it ?

• Did the British test the black rock in the 1920's and find it was common fiekdspar, ie not of
meteoric origin ?

•Does the haj ritual (which predates
muhhammad) come from Sabian and way back
originally Vedic origins ?

Why did Muhammad and other eminent Muslims insist on ascending via jerusalem even tho the earth heaven portal had moved to Mecca.

Why does the Quran read that Muhammad died wanting the Jews to forgive him and for him to be accepted into god (Yahweh)'s heaven?

•Why do Shia regard Sunni as heretics ?

This should do a starters.

[Neville Thompson]

Who are there more of ,Shiite or Sunni ?

[MAMOOKA]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/489445/two-charit... oh dear, nuke em.

[Sheilaa]

http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_02_D...

What you're going to hear next is one of the most diabolical doctrines of Islam: men and women are born to be tormented. They have no choice in the matter. Eternal damnation is god's doing, not ours.

Tabari I:305 "Then Allah rubbed Adam's back and brought forth his progeny. And every living being to be created by Allah to the Day of Resurrection came forth at Na'm.n. He scattered them in front of him like tiny ants. He made covenants with them.... He took two handfuls and said to those on the right,'Enter Paradise! And He said to the others,'Enter the Fire! I do not care.'" A loving and merciful god if there ever was one. But beyond demented, this is further evidence that Allah and Yahweh are opposites. Yahweh wants us to choose to love him; Allah chose for us and he doesn't care, much less love.

A moment's reflection on this doctrine renders an undeniable verdict: Islam is irrelevant. If all men and women are predestined to heaven or hell, faith is folly. Good works are no more valuable than bad ones. Rituals are ridiculous. Martyrdom is madness. Eat, drink, and be merry, for a backrub sealed our fate.

Tabari I:306 "The Messenger said, "Allah created Adam and then rubbed Adam's back with his right hand and brought forth his progeny. Then He said,'I have created these as the inhabitants of Paradise.' Then he rubbed his back with His left hand and said,'I have created those for the Fire, and they will act as the inhabitants of the Fire.' A man asked,'O Messenger, how is that? Muhammad replied,'When Allah creates a human being for Paradise, He employs him to act as the inhabitants of Paradise, and he will enter Paradise. And when Allah creates a human being for the Fire, He will employ him to act as the inhabitants of the Fire, and will thus make him enter the Fire.'" In other words, he didn't have a clue, although he gives us a clue as to what he is like, a peek into his soul, into his religion, at his deity. His god directs the actions of men - good and bad. If we are to believe Muhammad, Allah is the employer of evil. And that's not good. Worse, he directs men to act badly so that he can punish them for acting as he decreed.

Islam confirmed this fatalistic right and left hand stuff in a Bukhari Hadith and then again in the Qur'an's 56th surah. Bukhari:V6B60N473 "Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him." The Qur'an says: Qur'an 56:8 "Those of the right hand - how happy will be those of the right hand! Those of the left hand - how unhappy will be those of the left hand!...Who will be honored in the Garden of Bliss; a number of the earlier peoples, and a few of the later ages, on couches wrought of gold reclining face to face. Youth of never-ending bloom [perpetual virgins] will pass round. Cups and decanters full of sparkling wine, they shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted [Allah’s Viagra?]. And such fruits as they fancy, bird meats that they relish and companions pure and beautiful with big eyes like pearls within their shells as a reward." A drunken orgy is the reward for being a "right hander." It’s no wonder they find boys willing to die for the cause.

To be continued

[peter]

Hey Kakaslumpig you back from you Holy Muslim Brothel creep in Thailand ? Yuck, those poor girls putting up with your breath and body odor.... Filth !! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/36c6NGZQM3c/0.jpg FiltH !!

[peter]

Thank the Lord Jesus we are an Island nation otherwise this would be coming instead of boats
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mfEvoS1hmxc/TJcfL1b...
First stop CENTRELINK.

[peter]

Second stop Kings Cross Strip Bars and then ...... Oxford street

http://www.j4laughs.com/art/9/64.jpeg

[Sheilaa]

Neville Thompson wrote:

Who are there more of ,Shiite or Sunni ?

Sunnis, they keep killing the shiites

[Neville Thompson]

Sheilaa wrote:

http://prophetofdoom.net/Proph et_of_Doom_02_Devils_Deception s_and_Backrubs.Islam
What you're going to hear next is one of the most diabolical doctrines of Islam: men and women are born to be tormented. They have no choice in the matter. Eternal damnation is god's doing, not ours.
Tabari I:305 "Then Allah rubbed Adam's back and brought forth his progeny. And every living being to be created by Allah to the Day of Resurrection came forth at Na'm.n. He scattered them in front of him like tiny ants. He made covenants with them.... He took two handfuls and said to those on the right,'Enter Paradise! And He said to the others,'Enter the Fire! I do not care.'" A loving and merciful god if there ever was one. But beyond demented, this is further evidence that Allah and Yahweh are opposites. Yahweh wants us to choose to love him; Allah chose for us and he doesn't care, much less love.
A moment's reflection on this doctrine renders an undeniable verdict: Islam is irrelevant. If all men and women are predestined to heaven or hell, faith is folly. Good works are no more valuable than bad ones. Rituals are ridiculous. Martyrdom is madness. Eat, drink, and be merry, for a backrub sealed our fate.
Tabari I:306 "The Messenger said, "Allah created Adam and then rubbed Adam's back with his right hand and brought forth his progeny. Then He said,'I have created these as the inhabitants of Paradise.' Then he rubbed his back with His left hand and said,'I have created those for the Fire, and they will act as the inhabitants of the Fire.' A man asked,'O Messenger, how is that? Muhammad replied,'When Allah creates a human being for Paradise, He employs him to act as the inhabitants of Paradise, and he will enter Paradise. And when Allah creates a human being for the Fire, He will employ him to act as the inhabitants of the Fire, and will thus make him enter the Fire.'" In other words, he didn't have a clue, although he gives us a clue as to what he is like, a peek into his soul, into his religion, at his deity. His god directs the actions of men - good and bad. If we are to believe Muhammad, Allah is the employer of evil. And that's not good. Worse, he directs men to act badly so that he can punish them for acting as he decreed.
Islam confirmed this fatalistic right and left hand stuff in a Bukhari Hadith and then again in the Qur'an's 56th surah. Bukhari:V6B60N473 "Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him." The Qur'an says: Qur'an 56:8 "Those of the right hand - how happy will be those of the right hand! Those of the left hand - how unhappy will be those of the left hand!...Who will be honored in the Garden of Bliss; a number of the earlier peoples, and a few of the later ages, on couches wrought of gold reclining face to face. Youth of never-ending bloom [perpetual virgins] will pass round. Cups and decanters full of sparkling wine, they shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted [Allah’s Viagra?]. And such fruits as they fancy, bird meats that they relish and companions pure and beautiful with big eyes like pearls within their shells as a reward." A drunken orgy is the reward for being a "right hander." It’s no wonder they find boys willing to die for the cause.
To be continued

Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.

[Neville Thompson]

Sheilaa wrote:

<quoted text>
Sunnis, they keep killing the shiites

Would that order have come from their Caliph that they chose to follow instead of the bloodline ?

[Sheilaa]

Neville Thompson wrote:

<quoted text>Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.

Neville no offense but are you for real??????????

[Sheilaa]

Neville Thompson wrote:

<quoted text>Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.

Where do you think he got his information from Neville? It seems you are clueless in relation to his works. No offense meant!!!!!!!!

[Sheilaa]

Neville Thompson wrote:

<quoted text>
Would that order have come from their Caliph that they chose to follow instead of the bloodline ?

At the end of the day Neville does it matter??????????

They are killing innocent people.

[sid]

peter wrote:

Hey Kakaslumpig you back from you Holy Muslim Brothel creep in Thailand ? Yuck, those poor girls putting up with your breath and body odor.... Filth !! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/36c6NGZQM3c/0.jpg FiltH !!

First and second class must be inside the train, third claas is hanging on to the outside, fourth class is hanging on to the undercarriage. I wonder how many of the silly buggers fall off.

[Sunni Shia]

Neville Thompson wrote:

Who are there more of ,Shiite or Sunni ?

90% of Muslims are Sunni and heretics according to the 9% Shiite.
The remaining 1% are allawite or Salifi or other sub sects.
Shia are concentrated in the old Persian boundaries (Iran, parts of Iraq, but there are also 30 million Shia in pakistan which will lead to a major religious war along sect lines at some point).
The Sunni appear to be the vast majority but the fact is most Sunni eg the ones in india, south east Asia, Africa etc or non Arabic are not considered 'real Muslims' by Arab Sunni.
They are only Sunni by accident or imposition (via Mongol then Mughal empire top down dictates) so the true cornerstone of Arab sunni.
However of those 90% sunni, about 60% do not lead a faithful or true Islamic lifestyle -and 70% are not Arab so according to the Arab Sunni there is a subdivision with Sunni also as to being Arab or not, then being a true believer or not.

[Neville Thompson]

Sheilaa wrote:

<quoted text>
Neville no offense but are you for real??????????

What would his followers think as being their wildest dream come true ?

[Neville Thompson]

Sheilaa wrote:

<quoted text>
At the end of the day Neville does it matter??????????
They are killing innocent people.

The point being,they must know their own history to judge their actions that they have been fed the wrong information.

[Neville Thompson]

Sheilaa wrote:

<quoted text>
Where do you think he got his information from Neville? It seems you are clueless in relation to his works. No offense meant!!!!!!!!

Try and put your mind into the minds of those of the day that followed the mindset of their parents who followed orders or else.