Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35920 Jan 5, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
http://prophetofdoom.net/Proph et_of_Doom_02_Devils_Deception s_and_Backrubs.Islam
What you're going to hear next is one of the most diabolical doctrines of Islam: men and women are born to be tormented. They have no choice in the matter. Eternal damnation is god's doing, not ours.
Tabari I:305 "Then Allah rubbed Adam's back and brought forth his progeny. And every living being to be created by Allah to the Day of Resurrection came forth at Na'm.n. He scattered them in front of him like tiny ants. He made covenants with them.... He took two handfuls and said to those on the right,'Enter Paradise! And He said to the others,'Enter the Fire! I do not care.'" A loving and merciful god if there ever was one. But beyond demented, this is further evidence that Allah and Yahweh are opposites. Yahweh wants us to choose to love him; Allah chose for us and he doesn't care, much less love.
A moment's reflection on this doctrine renders an undeniable verdict: Islam is irrelevant. If all men and women are predestined to heaven or hell, faith is folly. Good works are no more valuable than bad ones. Rituals are ridiculous. Martyrdom is madness. Eat, drink, and be merry, for a backrub sealed our fate.
Tabari I:306 "The Messenger said, "Allah created Adam and then rubbed Adam's back with his right hand and brought forth his progeny. Then He said,'I have created these as the inhabitants of Paradise.' Then he rubbed his back with His left hand and said,'I have created those for the Fire, and they will act as the inhabitants of the Fire.' A man asked,'O Messenger, how is that? Muhammad replied,'When Allah creates a human being for Paradise, He employs him to act as the inhabitants of Paradise, and he will enter Paradise. And when Allah creates a human being for the Fire, He will employ him to act as the inhabitants of the Fire, and will thus make him enter the Fire.'" In other words, he didn't have a clue, although he gives us a clue as to what he is like, a peek into his soul, into his religion, at his deity. His god directs the actions of men - good and bad. If we are to believe Muhammad, Allah is the employer of evil. And that's not good. Worse, he directs men to act badly so that he can punish them for acting as he decreed.
Islam confirmed this fatalistic right and left hand stuff in a Bukhari Hadith and then again in the Qur'an's 56th surah. Bukhari:V6B60N473 "Every created soul has his place written for him either in Paradise or in the Hell Fire. His happy or miserable fate is predetermined for him." The Qur'an says: Qur'an 56:8 "Those of the right hand - how happy will be those of the right hand! Those of the left hand - how unhappy will be those of the left hand!...Who will be honored in the Garden of Bliss; a number of the earlier peoples, and a few of the later ages, on couches wrought of gold reclining face to face. Youth of never-ending bloom [perpetual virgins] will pass round. Cups and decanters full of sparkling wine, they shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted [Allah’s Viagra?]. And such fruits as they fancy, bird meats that they relish and companions pure and beautiful with big eyes like pearls within their shells as a reward." A drunken orgy is the reward for being a "right hander." It’s no wonder they find boys willing to die for the cause.
To be continued
Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35921 Jan 5, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Sunnis, they keep killing the shiites
Would that order have come from their Caliph that they chose to follow instead of the bloodline ?

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#35922 Jan 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.
Neville no offense but are you for real??????????

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35923 Jan 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>Muhammad would have needed something to compare with to have made the promise of what awaits those who are martyred.
I notice he did not offer wealth as in gold or camels.
Where do you think he got his information from Neville? It seems you are clueless in relation to his works. No offense meant!!!!!!!!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35924 Jan 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Would that order have come from their Caliph that they chose to follow instead of the bloodline ?
At the end of the day Neville does it matter??????????

They are killing innocent people.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35925 Jan 6, 2013
peter wrote:
Hey Kakaslumpig you back from you Holy Muslim Brothel creep in Thailand ? Yuck, those poor girls putting up with your breath and body odor.... Filth !! http://i.ytimg.com/vi/36c6NGZQM3c/0.jpg FiltH !!
First and second class must be inside the train, third claas is hanging on to the outside, fourth class is hanging on to the undercarriage. I wonder how many of the silly buggers fall off.
Sunni Shia

Australia

#35926 Jan 6, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
Who are there more of ,Shiite or Sunni ?
90% of Muslims are Sunni and heretics according to the 9% Shiite.
The remaining 1% are allawite or Salifi or other sub sects.
Shia are concentrated in the old Persian boundaries (Iran, parts of Iraq, but there are also 30 million Shia in pakistan which will lead to a major religious war along sect lines at some point).
The Sunni appear to be the vast majority but the fact is most Sunni eg the ones in india, south east Asia, Africa etc or non Arabic are not considered 'real Muslims' by Arab Sunni.
They are only Sunni by accident or imposition (via Mongol then Mughal empire top down dictates) so the true cornerstone of Arab sunni.
However of those 90% sunni, about 60% do not lead a faithful or true Islamic lifestyle -and 70% are not Arab so according to the Arab Sunni there is a subdivision with Sunni also as to being Arab or not, then being a true believer or not.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35927 Jan 6, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Neville no offense but are you for real??????????
What would his followers think as being their wildest dream come true ?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35928 Jan 6, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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At the end of the day Neville does it matter??????????
They are killing innocent people.
The point being,they must know their own history to judge their actions that they have been fed the wrong information.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35929 Jan 6, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Where do you think he got his information from Neville? It seems you are clueless in relation to his works. No offense meant!!!!!!!!
Try and put your mind into the minds of those of the day that followed the mindset of their parents who followed orders or else.
peter

Australia

#35930 Jan 6, 2013
sid wrote:
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First and second class must be inside the train, third claas is hanging on to the outside, fourth class is hanging on to the undercarriage. I wonder how many of the silly buggers fall off.
Your right Sid I thought the same thing,

Muq would a muslim soul falling off the train even be reported to the appropriate authority's.

I guess not.

Any way back to 20 Century's ago,

And the bezan shall be huge and black, and the eyes there of red with the blood of living creatures, and the whore of Babylon shall ride forth on a three-headed serpent, and throughout the lands, there'll be a great rubbing of parts. Yeeah...

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

AUSTRALIAN

#35932 Jan 6, 2013
peter wrote:
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Your right Sid I thought the same thing,
Muq would a muslim soul falling off the train even be reported to the appropriate authority's.
I guess not.
Any way back to 20 Century's ago,
And the bezan shall be huge and black, and the eyes there of red with the blood of living creatures, and the whore of Babylon shall ride forth on a three-headed serpent, and throughout the lands, there'll be a great rubbing of parts. Yeeah...
There must have been a lot of serpents back in history as in China,England and a few other places.
KakaSlumpigHoly Brothel

Australia

#35933 Jan 6, 2013
rocksolid wrote:
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Don’t be embarrassed you gay dog, this guy is smart and he has caught on to you, your probable screwing underage boys in manila, that’s why you live there, why would any sane man live in a slum city? You criminal dog, you’re afraid to come to Australia because the federal police have a warrant against you., By the way I told those Saudi cousins of yours that your mum is still in the hooking business and would be honoured to get drilled anytime…. LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL
Where are you now foul mouth DOG.
Bubba

Australia

#35934 Jan 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ask 1500 Millions living in all nations of the world....ask hundreds and thousands that are converting to Islam every day in every part of the world.
I do not know how many were killed in Islam's 1400 years old history for leaving Islam...
However we have data for Peaceful Christians who murdered millions not for leaving Christianity but belonging in a different sect!
And now your reverted to blah blah blah nonsense......
Bubba

Australia

#35935 Jan 6, 2013
MUQ wrote:
It seems my "sensible advice" has few takers!!
This always happens with people that their minds are clouded and they take the route which is to their most disadvantages.
I suggested that these people leave Muslims alone and let Islam grow by its natural growth. But these people will have nothing of it.
They say that Islam is only growing beacsue of higher birth rates, I have testimonies from hundreds of new Muslims from all over the world.
There would be hundreds of thousands of others, whose names I do not even know.
They all embraced Islam, when they studied it.
If Muslim' reproduction rate is high, what stops Australians Whites to match it? They have all the facilities available with them. Why they have to import manpower from outside, year after year?
Live and let others live is the simple and time tested formula for peaceful co-existence.
Ha ha ha

Mar 29, 2010
page 181

Now you can only talk in riddles..........
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#35936 Jan 6, 2013
Story of Prophet Joseph as given in Bible (Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50)and in Quran (Chapter 12)-
A comparative study- Part-67

Episode:

Jacob's Prophecies for future

Biblical Version

49.1 And Jacob called his sons and said,“Gather together, that I may tell you what shall
befall you in the last days: 2 “Gather together and hear, you sons of Jacob, And listen to Israel your father. 3 “Reuben, you are my firstborn, My might and the beginning of my strength, The excellency of dignity and the excellency of power. 4 Unstable as water, you shall not excel, Because you went up to your father’s bed; Then you defiled it—He went up to my couch.

5 “Simeon and Levi are brothers; Instruments of cruelty are in their dwelling place. 6 Let not my soul enter their council; Let not my honor be united to their assembly; For in their anger they slew a man, And in their self-will they hamstrung an ox. 7 Cursed be their anger, for it is fierce; And their wrath, for it is cruel! I will divide them in Jacob And scatter them in Israel.

8 “Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise; Your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; Your father’s children shall bow down before you. 9 Judah is a lion’s whelp; From the prey, my son, you have gone up. He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him? 10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, Nor a lawgiver from between his feet, Until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people. 11 Binding his donkey to the vine, And his donkey’s colt to the choice vine, He washed his garments in wine, And his clothes in the blood of grapes. 12 His eyes are darker than wine, And his teeth whiter than milk.

13 “ Zebulun shall dwell by the haven of the sea; He shall become a haven for ships, And his border shall adjoin Sidon

14 “ Issachar is a strong donkey, Lying down between two burdens; 15 He saw that rest was good, And that the land was pleasant; He bowed his shoulder to bear a burden, And became a band of slaves.

16 “Dan shall judge his people As one of the tribes of Israel. 17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way
A viper by the path, That bites the horse’s heels So that its rider shall fall backward. 8 I have waited for your salvation, O LORD! 19 “Gad, a troop shall tramp upon him, But he shall triumph at last.

20 “Bread from Asher shall be rich, And he shall yield royal dainties.

21 “ Naphtali is a deer let loose; He uses beautiful words.

22 “ Joseph is a fruitful bough, A fruitful bough by a well; His branches run over the wall.23 The archers have bitterly grieved him, Shot at him and hated him. 24 But his bow remained in strength, And the arms of his hands were made strong By the hands of the Mighty God of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel), 25 By the God of your father who will help you, And by the Almighty who will bless you
With blessings of heaven above, Blessings of the deep that lies beneath, Blessings of the breasts and of the womb. 26 The blessings of your father Have excelled the blessings of my ancestors, Up to the utmost bound of the everlasting hills. They shall be on the head of Joseph, And on the crown of the head of him who was separate from his brothers.

27 “ Benjamin is a ravenous wolf; In the morning he shall devour the prey, And at night he shall divide the spoil.”28 All these are the twelve tribes of Israel, and this is what their father spoke to them. And he blessed them; he blessed each one according to his own blessing.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#35937 Jan 6, 2013
Quranic Version:

NIL

Remarks / Comments

1. Now how many of these blessings were from God and how many from a father’s wish, how much does the history proves its truthfulness is the work of Historians

2. It looks like a father's blessings to his sons while dying

3. God does not has special relationship with any particular tribe or nation. He is Creator and Sustainer of whole universe. All mankind is from one parent, Adam & Eve.

4. He gives his blessings according to His will and merits of individual
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#35938 Jan 6, 2013
Q for MUQ wrote:
List of questions for MUQ then.
Point form so each can be dealt with.

• Did Tuba'h write the original 'book of rules' for the Arabs with Jewish collaboration ?



This should do a starters.
Ans.

Since I "know" our friend does not have patience to ask one question at a time, I have taken the matter is my hand so to say and split his questions into six parts of three questions each. Which I shall cover in my replies, In-sha-Allah i.e. Allah willing

Q1. Did Tuba'h write the original 'book of rules' for the Arabs with Jewish collaboration ?

MUQ: I have no clear knowledge about TUBBA (the rulers of Yemen) and what they wrote. They Might Have written some book, with Jewish or without Jewish collaboration, I do not know for sure
Q2. Was Tuba'hs scripture and belief system established in south Yemen to Mecca where Muhammad was exposed to these scripts and belief systems. In fact Muhammad being a jewish missionary supported by the medina Jews to promote these beliefs as part of the control the red sea Jews were trying to establish with the pagan Arabs for the caravan trade?

MUQ:

Our prophet "migrated to Madina" after 13 years of propagating his message in Makkah. He being a "Jewish supported missionary" is an imagination of your "fertile mind" and nothing else.
Q3. Is this book of rules by Tuba'h almost exactly the same as large parts of the 'original' Quran ?

MUQ: Quran did not "copy" anything from any previous books. Nothing from OT and Nothing from NT and nothing from the so called book of wisdom of TUBBA.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35939 Jan 6, 2013
peter wrote:
Thank the Lord Jesus we are an Island nation otherwise this would be coming instead of boats
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mfEvoS1hmxc/TJcfL1b...
First stop CENTRELINK.
Brahmin 1st class inside, dalit class outside.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35940 Jan 6, 2013
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_02_D...

Qur'an 56:33 "Unending and unforbidden, exalted beds, and maidens incomparable. We have formed them in a distinctive fashion and made them virgins, loving companions matched in age, for the sake of those of the right hand." This view of Paradise is so vulgar, demeaning, sexist, and immoral, I find it repulsive. The next time you hear a Muslim say that the god of the Qur'an and the God of the Bible are the same remind them of their god's idea of a good time. The next time you hear Muslims condemn the West for its sexual decadence and perversion, ask them to read their Qur'an.

This is the fate the sadistic god of Islam selected and then predestined for the "lefties:" Qur'an 56:41 "But those of the left hand - how unhappy those of the left hand. They will be in the scorching hot wind and boiling water, under the shadow of thick black smoke, neither cool nor agreeable....They will be gathered together on a certain day which [like their fate] is predetermined. Then you, the erring and the deniers will eat Zaqqoom [a thorn tree]. Fill your bellies with it, and drink scalding water, lapping it up like female camels raging of thirst and diseased. Such will be their entertainment, their welcome on the Day of Doom...the welcome of boiling water and the entertainment of roasting in Hell. This is indeed the ultimate truth." According to the "ultimate truth" only 1 in 1,000 people will avoid "the entertainment of roasting while lapping up thorns and scalding water."

Allah is fixated on tormenting his creation. He speaks of pain and punishment more frequently than any other subject - a thousand times in the Qur'an. And if "God" thinks this is entertaining, we've got a problem.

Fortunately for mankind, Allah isn't God. He's just a warped figment of Muhammad’s sadistic imagination. And while that's good, it's also bad. Over a billion people claim to be subservient to Allah. Sixty percent are young, and many of them are willing to die for their virginal reward.

The story of Adam's boys is next. What do you bet Muhammad twists this Bible account for his benefit? Tabari I:308 "The story of Cain and Abel was told by Allah to Muhammad in the Qur'an saying,'Recite to them - meaning the people of the Book - the story of the two sons of Adam truthfully...to the end of the story.'"

So here we go: "Eventually, two boys, called Cain and Abel, were born to Adam. Cain was a farmer and Abel was a herdsman. Cain was the older of the two." Thus far, this is from the Bible, but there is an Islamic twist. "Cain had a sister who was more beautiful than Abel's sister.[How could that be if they were brothers?] Abel sought to marry Cain's sister, but Cain refused and said,'She is my sister born together with me and she is more beautiful than your sister. I deserve to marry her more than you do. Adam ordered Cain to marry her to Abel. However, he refused." Muhammad’s preoccupation with sex was second only to his sadism. And Islam’s prophet, like his version of Abel, murdered and indulged in incest to satisfy his cravings. Muhammad married his son's wife simply because she was more beautiful than any of his.

To be continued

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