Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46810 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Ivan

Australia

#35883 Jan 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Story of Prophet Joseph as given in Bible (Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50)and in Quran (Chapter 12)-
A comparative study- Part-65
Episode:
Jacob Blesses Joseph's sons (Contd)
Biblical Version
And he said,“Please bring them to me, and I will bless them.” 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. Then Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph,“I had not thought to see your face; but in fact, God has also shown me your offspring!”
12 So Joseph brought them from beside his knees, and he bowed down with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim with his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh with his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near him. 14 Then Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand on Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands knowingly, for Manasseh was the firstborn.
15 And he blessed Joseph, and said:“God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, The God who has fed me all my life long to this day, 16 The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads; Let my name be named upon them, And the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; And let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.”
Quranic Version:
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Remarks / Comments
Irrelevant Nonsense as usual,

Topic title

+++++++ Why should Australians fear from Muslims +++++++

The muslim world is a failure, actions speak louder than words,

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspa...

Is this to relevant for you,

This is the true face of islam !

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57561803/...

And we Australians don't like it one bit.

Now waffle on about what happened 20 Century's ago.

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AUSTRALIAN

#35884 Jan 3, 2013
Kaaba black rock facts wrote:
I mentioned this on an earlier comment. More detail as someone asked for it.
Abu Tahir was the ruler of the Qarmatian state in Bahrain and Eastern Arabia, and in 930 led the sacking of Mecca. The Qarmatian army massacred the pilgrims, taunting them with verses of the Koran as they did so.
The bodies of the pilgrims were left to rot in the
streets or thrown down the Well of Zamzam.
The Kaaba was looted and destroyed with care to damage or descrate every component of it.
Abu Tahir took personal possession of the Black
Stone and bringing it back to Al-Hasa.
Attempts by the Abbasids and Fatamids to get him to return the Black Stone were rejected for
18 years.
He used as a urinal for some time and then in ceremony split and fractured the black stone casting the pieces into the desert and toilet outbuildings saying that Islam had become idol worship and he would relieve them of that.
Abu Tahir died of small pox, common at that time. After his death fragments of the black rock were 'supposedly' found and retrieved...
Abu Tahir rejected belief in Mohammed and
Islam in saying: In this world, three individuals have corrupted mankind: a shepherd, a physician
and a camel-driver. And this camel-driver was the worst pickpocket of the three..
A famous play about the three deceivers was then written based in his actions.
Only Fragments of the 'black rock' were ever found and returned. These fragments are am eight inch square 1 inch thick glued together veneer of the original black stone.
There is some doubt that any of it is real, the mission to try and retrieve the black stone having confusion about it as the stone was almost completely destroyed by Abu Tahir so these may
have been fragments just found many years later or not. Testing by the British who controlled Mekka in the early 20th century showed the fragments are common fieldspar and not of meteoric origin.
So not only does Islam worship idols but fake ones at that.
The Kabba (first tent structure 150 ad, first permanent structure 430ad) was completely rebuilt from new foundations.
It's not on the same site but relocated some 14 meters to the west and also re-orientated. So the existing Kabba is only about 1,000 years old.
Plenty of fact, historical and archeolgical evidence to all this.
Was Abu Tahir doing the right thing ?
He was trying to liberate Arabs from the cult idol worship sect it had become, by destroying it's idols and structures.
The Kabba and the possible remnants of the original black stone have been rebuilt and reorganized many times since Abu Tahir.
It perphaps proves that Muslims want and need their cult idols and objects (despite quranic instruction otherwise) even if they are fake.
Did Abu Tahir do anything with the Quran ?
The IDIOT Busters

Tempe, AZ

#35885 Jan 3, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Did Abu Tahir do anything with the Quran ?
He probably provided a "servive" to him.

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Ivan

Australia

#35886 Jan 4, 2013
Muq, I have had a premonition that very soon sunni or shiites are going to Blow Each Other PIECES !!
Abu Tahir etc

Australia

#35887 Jan 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Abu Tahir do anything with the Quran ?
What is recorded is that Abu Tahir destroyed the Kabba and took and destroyed the black rock.
He killed the Muslims and de-consecrated the site.
You must wonder, to what and where did the Muslims pray and do their haj for 18 years...

Only supposed slivers of the black rock were
ever found, bit like the relics of the holy cross, this was expediency as something had to subsistute...

But the british tested the small remaining glued together veneer of fragments in 1922 at Mekka and found it was only fieldspar or common rock..

Abu Tahir motivation was that a new majid or zorastorian god had arrived and all the 'fake' idol worships had to be destroyed.

The Quran and its many hadeeths is of course silent on this chapter in Islamic history.
The implication is that Muslims today workship some fragments of rock that in all probability are not original, stuck into the side of a rebuilt
(circa 970ad) vedic (Sabian Hubal ) ablutions block modeled off an original built in 450 ad.
Abraham never went to Mecca, nor hagar or Ishmael - as mecca as a place never existed in their time.
Once that's understood, then the muhammadean apostasy ( of Tuba'h's original proto judastic quickly becomes clear ).
Black rock

Australia

#35888 Jan 4, 2013
On the black Rock itself - that has quite a story.
Every town had a Kaaba or storage and ablutions area for the black rock ritual originally in pre Muhammad times.
The Rocks (plural, there were many in different towns) were gathered from an area of the desert that did have meteriotes exposed in the sand.
The iron and nickel content even then was known to be unusual.
The Arabs worshipped the venus god of fertility (the islams still call Venus a star) and the moon god of blood shedding (female menstruation).
The Vedic based haj ritual celebrates the conduction of the moon and Venus for fertility.
The actual ritual was that the Arabs would gather and circumlocate the Kaaba and the woman would touch and daub their menses onto the rock. The men would touch, smell and taste the menses on the rock and then select a partner.
Muslims were originally naked and then later naked under a cotton (Muslim) shift.
It's a Vedic ritual tailored to Arab stone object.
The Kaaba itself was a washing up area.
All around the Kaaba were hovels or tents used for the sex ritual. Photos up until 1850 show Mecca and the Kabba in this way as well as extensive evidence from adventurers or participants who sneaked into the ritual and then later wrote about it.
Arabs were very inbred. The haj ritual was a ritualized way of aggrerating & interspersing genes across nomadic people. Like goats or camels, it was a breeding ritual adapted to their needs and environment.
Muhammad was a big follower of the Sabian or sex ritual and thus incorporated it into Tuba'h's earlier works.
The moon and venus star (planet) conjunction is an indicator of timing to breed etc and still today remains as the dominant symbols of Islam.
Today all Muslims are compelled to do the haj ie share and breed with others even if it's in a ritualistic form. You will see on video the Muslims will sniff, touch, lick and taste the black rock if they can get close enough to it (well millions only ever get to go around just pointing at it).
Muhammad destroyed the other kaaba's and black rocks to centralize & control it from Mekka.
Jerusalem was still the holier place and the earth heaven portal,,, but after the fallout with the Jews and that Jerusalem was not under their control, Mekka was reluctantly made the earth/ heaven portal.
Abu Tahir then stole and destroyed the Rock...

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#35889 Jan 4, 2013
Grand Mufti’s agenda not very unifying

Miranda Devine
Wednesday, January 02, 2013 (6:45am)

AUSTRALIA’S Grand Mufti, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, presents himself as a moderate, with the unity of Muslims and non-Muslims as his priority.

But his Christmas vist to the Gaza strip, which he called “the land of jihad”, and his support for Hamas, suggest unity may not be the first thing on his mind.

The visit reportedly was hailed as a publicity “coup” by Hamas, whose militant wing has been listed as a terrorist entity by Australia since 2001.

Mohamed met Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, who is on record praising Osama Bin Laden as a “Muslim and Arabic warrior”

“We came here in order to learn from Gaza,” Mohamed said.

Learn what?

Read more at:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/miran...

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#35890 Jan 4, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
Grand Mufti’s agenda not very unifying
Miranda Devine
Wednesday, January 02, 2013 (6:45am)
AUSTRALIA’S Grand Mufti, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, presents himself as a moderate, with the unity of Muslims and non-Muslims as his priority.
But his Christmas vist to the Gaza strip, which he called “the land of jihad”, and his support for Hamas, suggest unity may not be the first thing on his mind.
The visit reportedly was hailed as a publicity “coup” by Hamas, whose militant wing has been listed as a terrorist entity by Australia since 2001.
Mohamed met Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, who is on record praising Osama Bin Laden as a “Muslim and Arabic warrior”
“We came here in order to learn from Gaza,” Mohamed said.
Learn what?
Read more at:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/miran...
Learn what from Gaza that has already been explained in blood

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#35891 Jan 4, 2013
Black rock wrote:
On the black Rock itself - that has quite a story.
Every town had a Kaaba or storage and ablutions area for the black rock ritual originally in pre Muhammad times.
The Rocks (plural, there were many in different towns) were gathered from an area of the desert that did have meteriotes exposed in the sand.
The iron and nickel content even then was known to be unusual.
The Arabs worshipped the venus god of fertility (the islams still call Venus a star) and the moon god of blood shedding (female menstruation).
The Vedic based haj ritual celebrates the conduction of the moon and Venus for fertility.
The actual ritual was that the Arabs would gather and circumlocate the Kaaba and the woman would touch and daub their menses onto the rock. The men would touch, smell and taste the menses on the rock and then select a partner.
Muslims were originally naked and then later naked under a cotton (Muslim) shift.
It's a Vedic ritual tailored to Arab stone object.
The Kaaba itself was a washing up area.
All around the Kaaba were hovels or tents used for the sex ritual. Photos up until 1850 show Mecca and the Kabba in this way as well as extensive evidence from adventurers or participants who sneaked into the ritual and then later wrote about it.
Arabs were very inbred. The haj ritual was a ritualized way of aggrerating & interspersing genes across nomadic people. Like goats or camels, it was a breeding ritual adapted to their needs and environment.
Muhammad was a big follower of the Sabian or sex ritual and thus incorporated it into Tuba'h's earlier works.
The moon and venus star (planet) conjunction is an indicator of timing to breed etc and still today remains as the dominant symbols of Islam.
Today all Muslims are compelled to do the haj ie share and breed with others even if it's in a ritualistic form. You will see on video the Muslims will sniff, touch, lick and taste the black rock if they can get close enough to it (well millions only ever get to go around just pointing at it).
Muhammad destroyed the other kaaba's and black rocks to centralize & control it from Mekka.
Jerusalem was still the holier place and the earth heaven portal,,, but after the fallout with the Jews and that Jerusalem was not under their control, Mekka was reluctantly made the earth/ heaven portal.
Abu Tahir then stole and destroyed the Rock...
I would like MUQ's understanding of this
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Tempe, AZ

#35892 Jan 4, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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#35893 Jan 4, 2013
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#35895 Jan 4, 2013
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#35899 Jan 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Story of Prophet Joseph as given in Bible (Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50)and in Quran (Chapter 12)-
A comparative study- Part-65
Episode:
Jacob Blesses Joseph's sons (Contd)
Biblical Version
And he said,“Please bring them to me, and I will bless them.” 10 Now the eyes of Israel were dim with age, so that he could not see. Then Joseph brought them near him, and he kissed them and embraced them. 11 And Israel said to Joseph,“I had not thought to see your face; but in fact, God has also shown me your offspring!”
12 So Joseph brought them from beside his knees, and he bowed down with his face to the earth. 13 And Joseph took them both, Ephraim with his right hand toward Israel’s left hand, and Manasseh with his left hand toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near him. 14 Then Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and his left hand on Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands knowingly, for Manasseh was the firstborn.
15 And he blessed Joseph, and said:“God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, The God who has fed me all my life long to this day, 16 The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads; Let my name be named upon them, And the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; And let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.”
Quranic Version:
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Remarks / Comments
There is no want of power in God to cast wicked men into hell at any moment. Men's hands cannot be strong when God rises up. The strongest have no power to resist him, nor can any deliver out of his hands.-- He is not only able to cast wicked men into hell, but he can most easily do it. Sometimes an earthly prince meets with a great deal of difficulty to subdue a rebel, who has found means to fortify himself, and has made himself strong by the numbers of his followers. But it is not so with God. There is no fortress that is any defence from the power of God. Though hand join in hand, and vast multitudes of God's enemies combine and associate themselves, they are easily broken in pieces. They are as great heaps of light chaff before the whirlwind; or large quantities of dry stubble before devouring flames. We find it easy to tread on and crush a worm that we see crawling on the earth; so it is easy for us to cut or singe a slender thread that any thing hangs by: thus easy is it for God, when he pleases, to cast his enemies down to hell. What are we, that we should think to stand before him, at whose rebuke the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down?

REPENT TO THE CHRIST OR BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR WICKEDNESS !!
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#35900 Jan 4, 2013
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#35901 Jan 4, 2013
Yerachmiel wrote:
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There is no want of power in God to cast wicked men into hell at any moment. Men's hands cannot be strong when God rises up. The strongest have no power to resist him, nor can any deliver out of his hands.-- He is not only able to cast wicked men into hell, but he can most easily do it. Sometimes an earthly prince meets with a great deal of difficulty to subdue a rebel, who has found means to fortify himself, and has made himself strong by the numbers of his followers. But it is not so with God. There is no fortress that is any defence from the power of God. Though hand join in hand, and vast multitudes of God's enemies combine and associate themselves, they are easily broken in pieces. They are as great heaps of light chaff before the whirlwind; or large quantities of dry stubble before devouring flames. We find it easy to tread on and crush a worm that we see crawling on the earth; so it is easy for us to cut or singe a slender thread that any thing hangs by: thus easy is it for God, when he pleases, to cast his enemies down to hell. What are we, that we should think to stand before him, at whose rebuke the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down?
REPENT TO THE CHRIST OR BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR WICKEDNESS !!
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#35902 Jan 4, 2013
To be continuedhttp://prophetofdoom. net/Prophet_of_Doom_02_Devils_ Deceptions_and_Backrubs.Islam

"I shall make it the first House founded as a blessing for mankind in the valley of Mecca. They will come to it disheveled and covered with dust upon all kinds of emaciated mounts from every ravine, shouting:'At Your service.' shedding copious tears and noisily proclaiming 'Allahu Akbar!'" These are the words Islamic terrorists say before they commit murder.

"You shall dwell there, Adam, for as long as you live. Then the nations, generations, and prophets of your children shall live there, one nation after the other." Outright deceit is another way to tell if someone is worthy of being the founder of a religion. There is no trace of a permanent settlement in Mecca, much less a nation, prior to the sixth century. Depending on whether you believe Moses or Muhammad, Adam left the Garden 6,000 to 7,500 years ago. That's a 4,500-year error. The harder Muhammad tries to make Mecca and the Ka'aba appear credible and religious, the less credible and religious they appear.

"He commanded Adam to go to the Sacred House which was cast down to earth for him,[What happened to building it and the rocks from four mountains?] and to circumambulate it, just as he used to see the angels circumambulate Allah’s Throne. The Sacred House was a single jewel [the Black Stone] I was told. The House was cast down being a single jewel." Those last two lines confirm something that Muslims vociferously deny. A "house" is a place in which people live. It is unlike a temple, which is a place people go to worship. Allah’s house was the stone. Most pagan gods were thought by their creators to embody the idol that represented them. Allah was no different.

Tabari I:302 "Eventually, when Allah drowned the people of Noah, He lifted it up, but its foundation remained. Allah established it as a residence for Abraham who (re)built its later form." That's where all of this was going all along. Muhammad had to introduce Noah and then connect Mecca and Islam to Abraham. Allah’s Messenger turns both Noah and Abraham into prophets that are indistinguishable from himself. Allah, we are told, drowned everybody because they mocked Noah's message - just as he will burn those who mock Muhammad’s. Then he remade Abraham in his image, as a Muslim who was tormented and tested. These things were needed to justify his reliance on the Bible and make himself and the Ka'aba appear worthy.

Tabari I:303 "When we were sitting in the mosque, Mujhid said,'Do you see this.' I replied, you mean the Stone.' He said,'You call it a stone.' I said,'Is it not a stone.' He said,'I was told by Abdallah bin Abbas that it was a white jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears - tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said,'Why and how did it turn black.' He replied,'Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance - i.e. pre-Islam]'" Muhammad valued the Allah stone as much as he despised menstruating women. His faithful managed to tie these things together.

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#35903 Jan 5, 2013
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#35904 Jan 5, 2013
Black rock wrote:
On the black Rock itself - that has quite a story.
Every town had a Kaaba or storage and ablutions area for the black rock ritual originally in pre Muhammad times.
The Rocks (plural, there were many in different towns) were gathered from an area of the desert that did have meteriotes exposed in the sand.
The iron and nickel content even then was known to be unusual.
The Arabs worshipped the venus god of fertility (the islams still call Venus a star) and the moon
god of blood shedding (female menstruation).
The Vedic based haj ritual celebrates the conduction of the moon and Venus for fertility.
The actual ritual was that the Arabs would gather and circumlocate the Kaaba and the woman
would touch and daub their menses onto the rock.
The men would touch, smell and taste the
menses on the rock and then select a partner.
Muslims were originally naked and then later naked under a cotton (Muslim) shift.
It's a Vedic ritual tailored to Arab stone object.
The Kaaba itself was a washing up area.
All around the Kaaba were hovels or tents used
for the sex ritual. Photos up until 1850 show Mecca and the Kabba in this way as well as extensive evidence from adventurers or participants who sneaked into the ritual and then later wrote about it.
Arabs were very inbred. The haj ritual was a ritualized way of aggrerating & interspersing
genes across nomadic people.
Like goats or camels, it was a breeding ritual adapted to their needs and environment.
Muhammad was a big follower of the Sabian or
sex ritual and thus incorporated it into Tuba'h's earlier works.
The moon and venus star (planet) conjunction is
an indicator of timing to breed etc and still today remains as the dominant symbols of Islam.
Today all Muslims are compelled to do the haj ie
share and breed with others even if it's in a ritualistic form.
You will see on video the Muslims will sniff,
touch, lick and taste the black rock if they can
get close enough to it (well millions only ever get to go around just pointing at it).
Muhammad destroyed the other kaaba's and
black rocks to centralize & control it from Mecca..
Jerusalem was still the holier place and the earth heaven portal,,, but after the fallout with the Jews and that Jerusalem was not under their control, Mekka was reluctantly made the earth/
heaven portal.
Abu Tahir then stole and destroyed the Rock...
So you can see how the black rock object worship ties together.
Muhammad centalised the black rock worship to Mecca only (previously there were many such kabbas and black rocks. The Sabian moon god cult is one of blood shedding & worship.
The circumlocation of the black rock (haj) is
based on a fertility ritual. That the woman daubed their menses or genital body fluids on the rock, and that the men sniffed, licked and tasted the woman's fluids is without doubt.
In the Quran itself.
Tabari I:303 " it was a white
jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears - tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said,'Why and how did it turn black.'
He replied,'Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance - i.e. pre-Islam]'"
Muhammad incoroprated the sabian moon god black rock ritual into Tuba'hs earlier work on the 'book of rules' to create the apostacy of Islam.
Today Muslims slaver to taste or touch the
black rock, The haj is a highly sexually charged pagan fertility rite.
At Mekka are thousands of prostitutes servicing the needs of the 'pilgrims'.
Shia make " temporary marriages " with the prostitute to legitimize this.
Sunni as heretics say this is a sin is ok as Allah knew Muhammad did it and even Muhammads
wife's knew that Muhammad was having sex with strange woman in the black rock ritual (many Quran references to this..).
This is how fake and duplicitous Islam is.

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#35907 Jan 5, 2013
Black Rock continued wrote:
<quoted text>
So you can see how the black rock object worship ties together.
Muhammad centalised the black rock worship to Mecca only (previously there were many such kabbas and black rocks. The Sabian moon god cult is one of blood shedding & worship.
The circumlocation of the black rock (haj) is
based on a fertility ritual. That the woman daubed their menses or genital body fluids on the rock, and that the men sniffed, licked and tasted the woman's fluids is without doubt.
In the Quran itself.
Tabari I:303 " it was a white
jewel that Adam took out of Paradise to wipe his tears - tears that did not stop for 2,000 years. I said,'Why and how did it turn black.'
He replied,'Menstruating women were touching it in the Jahiliyyah [the Time of Ignorance - i.e. pre-Islam]'"
Muhammad incoroprated the sabian moon god black rock ritual into Tuba'hs earlier work on the 'book of rules' to create the apostacy of Islam.
Today Muslims slaver to taste or touch the
black rock, The haj is a highly sexually charged pagan fertility rite.
At Mekka are thousands of prostitutes servicing the needs of the 'pilgrims'.
Shia make " temporary marriages " with the prostitute to legitimize this.
Sunni as heretics say this is a sin is ok as Allah knew Muhammad did it and even Muhammads
wife's knew that Muhammad was having sex with strange woman in the black rock ritual (many Quran references to this..).
This is how fake and duplicitous Islam is.
Seeing MUQ is our inhouse authority on all things Islam I can't understand why we haven't read this before.
MUQ,if you are reading this I would like your input,and that we may all look upon this as a learning experience.
Q for MUQ

Australia

#35908 Jan 5, 2013
List of questions for MUQ then.
Point form so each can be dealt with.
• Did Tuba'h write the original 'book of rules' for the Arabs with Jewish collaboration ?
• Was Tuba'hs scripture and belief system established in south yemmen to Mecca where Muhammad was exposed to these scripts and belief systems. In fact Muhammad being a jewish missionary supported by the medina Jews to promote these beliefs as part of the control the red sea Jews were trying to establish with the pagan Arabs for the caravan trade?
• Is this book of rules by Tuba'h almost exactly the same as large parts of the 'original' Quran ?
• Did Muhammad decide in 624 ad to unilaterally promote Allah to be the supreme god replacing yahweh. Based on the rejection by the Jews of
Muhammads unsubstantiated claim to be a
prophet.
• Was Khadija (Muhammad's first wife) his half sister/aunt who owned a lot of camels but no son heirs thus force married to muhammad to protect her inheritance.
Wasn't khadija and her family the major
beneficiary of Muhhamads betrayal of the medina Jews as they then took over control of the caravan trade ?
Doesn't this point to Khadija and her tribe 'using' Muhammad (a known religious nutter) to invent a religion to their tawdry purposes of stealing the Jewish position of control of trade in medina ?

• Isn't the entire Quran as a book a confused and apologitic justification by Muhammad as to how he was 'forced' into creating Allah and
attacking the Jews - because they would not recginise his claim as a jewish prophet equal to Moses ?

• How did Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael visit Mecca when it was not established until 150ad.

• What historical or geological evidence exists of
Mecca prior to 150 ad ?

Wasn't the first Kabba at Mecca a tent
established in 340 ad. And that no permanent
structure was built until 450ad ?

Did Abu Tahir destroy the Kabba in 930 ad and take away and destroy the black rock ?

• Isn't the black rock today at Mecca some fragments glued together as a veneer approx 8" x
8" by 2" thick, ie the size of an iPad mini ?

• Is there considerable doubt this is the true
black rock - as Abu Tahir had used the black rock as an urinal and latrine thus defiling it and then he publicly destroyed it ?

• Did the British test the black rock in the 1920's and find it was common fiekdspar, ie not of
meteoric origin ?

•Does the haj ritual (which predates
muhhammad) come from Sabian and way back
originally Vedic origins ?

Why did Muhammad and other eminent Muslims insist on ascending via jerusalem even tho the earth heaven portal had moved to Mecca.

Why does the Quran read that Muhammad died wanting the Jews to forgive him and for him to be accepted into god (Yahweh)'s heaven?

•Why do Shia regard Sunni as heretics ?

This should do a starters.

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