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here to stay

Sydney, Australia

#35360 Dec 12, 2012
On the dawn of the 9/11 attacks George W. Bush pronounced that a big giant had been violated and its wrath would befall anyone who challenged its authority. His lunacy didn’t allow him to think for even a moment that the attack was a sign that an even bigger giant had entered the seen, ISLAM.

To think that the US and her allies will ever defeat Islam is no less lunatic than believing that George Bush’s IQ is higher than that of Osama Bin Laden. Like them or not, Islamists are more successful in recruiting an army of soldiers willing to give their most precious belonging, life. Fighting them is an utter impossibility.

When Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said Hezbollah’s war with Israel was a war for the Muslim nation as a whole he was absolutely right. Had Israel succeeded in defeating Hezbollah we would be in a situation where the next step is taken; Syria would be under fire.

But as fate would have it, Hezbollah stood the ground and now Israel seeks “peace” with Syria. Israel wouldn’t take such a step without consultation with its Godfather’s in Europe and America and if the Godfathers deem peace with Syria as a necessity we can safely conclude that Islamists have managed to get their point across.

“We are here and we are here to stay and we will continue our struggle until you change your approach and until the Muslim nation eventually stand”.
yeah right

Australia

#35361 Dec 12, 2012
here to stay wrote:
On the dawn of the 9/11 attacks George W. Bush pronounced that a big giant had been violated and its wrath would befall anyone who challenged its authority. His lunacy didn’t allow him to think for even a moment that the attack was a sign that an even bigger giant had entered the seen, ISLAM.
To think that the US and her allies will ever defeat Islam is no less lunatic than believing that George Bush’s IQ is higher than that of Osama Bin Laden. Like them or not, Islamists are more successful in recruiting an army of soldiers willing to give their most precious belonging, life. Fighting them is an utter impossibility.
When Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said Hezbollah’s war with Israel was a war for the Muslim nation as a whole he was absolutely right. Had Israel succeeded in defeating Hezbollah we would be in a situation where the next step is taken; Syria would be under fire.
But as fate would have it, Hezbollah stood the ground and now Israel seeks “peace” with Syria. Israel wouldn’t take such a step without consultation with its Godfather’s in Europe and America and if the Godfathers deem peace with Syria as a necessity we can safely conclude that Islamists have managed to get their point across.
“We are here and we are here to stay and we will continue our struggle until you change your approach and until the Muslim nation eventually stand”.
It makes me very happy to know that ASIO now has another terrorist's IP.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35362 Dec 12, 2012
On the dawn of the 9/11 attacks George W. Bush pronounced that a big giant had been violated and its wrath would befall anyone who challenged its authority. His lunacy didn’t allow him to think for even a moment that the attack was a sign that an even bigger giant had entered the seen, ISLAM.

Americas invasion of iraq was perfect opportunity to show the might of islam, what happened, nothing, iraq was smashed in a week.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35363 Dec 12, 2012
Ishaq/Hisham 992:- "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
muq what does this quote mean, please explain it so I can understand your religion of peace love and kindness.
get over it

Australia

#35364 Dec 12, 2012
For real? guys this argument is pointless. Islam needs to be attacked, they are using stealth jihad, and our own method of talking against us, once their numbers are sufficient they will return to the backward. Illiterate life Islam teaches, it uses knowledge ( or rather the lack of ) to control people. It is a cult nothing more or less, and the only ' religion' I oppose. To think, if we had never let them have our technology, they'd still be flinging mid at each other, although, once they are able, they will rewrite history to attribute everything to Islam I am sure. Fact is, we need to get rid of this bullshit communist political correctness, and kick them out of our country. The labor party is socialist, as socialism grows it becomes communism, neither can have patriots, those who say ' fuck you' to ' people' like Muslims, instead of saying ' hey, come into our country, enjoy calling anyone who insults racist and have the mindless masses defend you'. Islam is not allowed to be questioned, anything which cannot be questioned, can do as it wishes, and that's what we are seeing. Time to talk is done, time to act is now. Our government has betrayed us by not looking out for our best interests. claiming people of other nationalities should be able to come here in as large a number as they wish, and enjoy what our forefathers worked for. Everyone who is a patriot is called hateful, and lose their voice. I'm all for immigration, but not mass immigration and multiculturalism, which favours all but the natives. When people say ' Australia was built on multiculturalism ', they're wrong. It was built on one set of values, not many, with minimal non-european immigration ,. on the bright side, when the illuminati decides to start de populating the earth, who will they choose? Intelligent westerners ? Or illiterate, indoctrinated sheep in the middle east?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35366 Dec 12, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
since when "nursing staff" have become "experts" to certify who is suffering from schizophrenia or not?
You also need treatment at the same asylum!!
I nursed enough to be able to recognize someone who is, and you tick all the boxes. I have a specialist qualification in psychiatric nursing. You on the other hand have no qualifications just a big mouth that comes out with rubbish and that has nothing to back the rubbish up with
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#35367 Dec 12, 2012
Is Allah the same god as the Christians? well lets compare there prophets shall we.

Mohammed Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)
Jesus Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

mohummed said"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)
Jesus said "He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

mohummed Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)
Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

mohummed Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Jesus said "Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

mohummed Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
Jesus said "Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

mohummed Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus Neither owned nor traded slaves.

mohummed Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)
Jesus Beheaded no one.

mohummedMurdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Jesus Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

mohummed said"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)
Jesus said "If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

mohummed said Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)
Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

mohummed Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
Jesus Was celibate.

mohummed Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Jesus Did not have sex with children.

mohummed Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
Jesus Never harmed a woman.

mohummed said"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)
Jesus said"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

mohummed Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
Jesus Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

mohummed Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)
Jesus Never took captives.Never killed anyone.

mohummed Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)
Jesus Never encouraged rape.Never enslaved women.

mohummed Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)
Jesus"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

mohummed Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

mohummed said"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)
Jesus said "Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

mohummed Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)
Jesus Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28)

mohummed Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

mohummed said What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)
Jesus said What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

mohummed Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute.
Jesus Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

mohummed Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Jesus Was crucified himself.

mohummed According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)
Jesus According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35368 Dec 12, 2012
http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_02_D...

Want proof? From Bukhari's, Book of Jihad, Chapter 1, number 1204: "A man came to Allah’s Messenger and said,'Guide me to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.' He said,'I do not find such a deed.'" Bukhari:V4B52N50 "The Prophet said,'A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'" As we move into the Medina war surahs I will share scores of these with you.

Returning to the 7th surah, Allah’s miffed men aren't thankful. Qur'an 7:10 "It is We who have placed you [Adam] with authority on earth, and provided you with means for the fulfillment of your life: small are the thanks that you give! Little give you thanks!"

"It is We who created you and gave you shape; then We ordered the angels to fall and prostrate themselves to Adam. And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who made prostration." Iblis was Lucifer, a fallen angel better known as Satan. The Qur'an says that he was a jinn, or demonic spirit. Both the Qur'an and Bible agree that Lucifer rebelled against God.

According to the Bible, as an angel, Lucifer was merely a tool. His relationship with Yahweh was like that of a private to a general. Without choice angels cannot love. And they are incapable of creativity, which may explain why so much of the Qur'an was plagiarized. Lucifer's existence was defined by the same terms that gave Islam its name and authority: "submit and obey." The Bible says, when Lucifer rebelled, a third of the angels were cast out of heaven and became demons. They lashed out at Yahweh by deceiving man, separating us from God, just as they had been.

This all led to the most infamous meal in human history. I share this Biblical perspective because once again, Muhammad, lacking imagination, plagiarized it, albeit with his own unique embellishments. Qur'an 7:12 "'What prevented you [Iblis/Lucifer] from prostrating when I commanded you?' He said:'I am better than Adam: You created me from fire and him from clay.' So Allah said:'Get down from this place: it is not for you to be arrogant here: get out, you are degraded, for you are of the meanest of creatures.'" The request is odd, yet the Qur'an never explains why Allah wanted his angels to humble themselves before man.

In the Qur'an, Satan protests. Qur'an 7:14 "'Give me a reprieve until the time they are raised.' Allah said:'You have your reprieve.' He said:'Because you have thrown me out, I will lie in wait, lurking in ambush for them on Your Right Path. I will assault them from behind, from their right and left. You will find them ungrateful.' Allah said:'Get out of here. You are disgraced and expelled. If any follow, I will fill Hell with all of you.'" The Qur'an has clearly said that Satan is deceptive, and that he's going to hell. This is important because, from this point on, Allah will claim to be deceitful and we will find him in hell, tormenting men.

Continuing to steal from Genesis, the Islamic scriptures say: Qur'an 7:19 "We said:'Adam, dwell with your wife in the Garden and enjoy: but approach not this tree or you will run into harm and become wrong-doers.' Then Satan began to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them. He said:'Your Lord only forbid you this tree, lest you should become angels, immortal, living forever.'" In the Garden, Adam was immortal. Seducing Adam with a promise of immortality would be like seducing Arabs with a promise of more sand. Besides, why would Adam want to become an angel if the angels were bowing to him?

To be continued
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35369 Dec 12, 2012
Sid wrote:
Everyone of your threats can be found in the Koran which you actively support, condone and promote. You have stated many times that the Koran is the worl of God and therefore infallible so make up your mind, do you wholeheartedly believe and support every word of the Koran or not.

I didn't write the Koran, I have simply listed what the Koran says. When you write a post here you are not talking to the breeze you are directing your words at fellow human beings.

I am an infidel you are a muslim, when the Koran specifically states to kill infidels it is referring to me, if you support and endorse the Koran you have just threatened to kill me. I take your words personally. Call me schizo, call me psycho if you will but muslim action speaks louder than words.
Refute the following but be careful if you do, your brothers might separate your head from your body, or will you take refuge in taqyia.

Quran (5:33)- "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12)- "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (9:5)- "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (33:60-62)- "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."



Ans.

Quran has 6666 verses, it is strange that you quoted these five or six verses and forgot about the rest 6650 + verses.

This is the common problem with “experts” like you, who do not study Quran to take guidance from it.

They just look for verses which describe as to how to conduct war with those who are bent upon rooting out Islam from its land and then try to give impression that this is allw what Quran teaches.

If you collect all the “fighting verses” in Bible, you will find that they are more than 10 times than what you see in Quran and they are much harsher.

But I never saw you people taking out a compaign against Bible that it promotes hate and violence.

Quran mentions about war and how it is to be conducted, because war is also a part of human life and for any book to provide complete guidance about life, war is also to be mentioned.

This is my “short answer” to your long post.

The ideal solution for your case is to go and see a good mental doctor and tell him that you are suffering from Islam Phobia.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35370 Dec 12, 2012
Story of Prophet Joseph as given in Bible (Gen Chapter 37 to Chapter 50)and in Quran (Chapter 12)-
A comparative study- Part-44

Episode:

Benjamin comes to Egypt

Biblical Version

43.15 So the men took that present and Benjamin, and they took double money in their hand, and arose and went down to Egypt; and they stood before Joseph. 16 When Joseph saw Benjamin with them, he said to the steward of his house,“Take these men to my home, and slaughter an animal and make ready; for these men will dine with me at noon.” 17 Then the man did as Joseph ordered, and the man brought the men into Joseph’s house.

18 Now the men were afraid because they were brought into Joseph’s house; and they said,“It is because of the money, which was returned in our sacks the first time, that we are brought in, so that he may make a case against us and seize us, to take us as slaves with our donkeys.”

19 When they drew near to the steward of Joseph’s house, they talked with him at the door of the house, 20 and said,“O sir, we indeed came down the first time to buy food; 21 but it happened, when we came to the encampment, that we opened our sacks, and there, each man’s money was in the mouth of his sack, our money in full weight; so we have brought it back in our hand. 22 And we have brought down other money in our hands to buy food. We do not know who put our money in our

Quranic Version:

69 Now when they came into Joseph’s presence, he received his (full) brother to stay with him. He said (to him):“Behold! I am your (own) brother; so grieve not at aught of their doings.”

Remarks / Comments

1 Can any thing be shorter and more precise than the Quranic statement?

2. Compare it with the confused statements and ramblings of Bible.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35371 Dec 12, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
I think you are a strong mental case suffering from schizophrenia , accusing me of these crimes.
I suggest that you consult a good mental doctor, and till your cure is complete, you stay away form this thread and any other public media.
He's more welcome here than you will ever be. He posts the truth and you can't stand that so you attack him personally like most muslims do.

I suggest you take your own advice and seek help urgently before you do something that you may regret.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35372 Dec 12, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Quran has 6666 verses, it is strange that you quoted these five or six verses and forgot about the rest 6650 + verses.
This is the common problem with “experts” like you, who do not study Quran to take guidance from it.
They just look for verses which describe as to how to conduct war with those who are bent upon rooting out Islam from its land and then try to give impression that this is allw what Quran teaches.
If you collect all the “fighting verses” in Bible, you will find that they are more than 10 times than what you see in Quran and they are much harsher.
But I never saw you people taking out a compaign against Bible that it promotes hate and violence.
Quran mentions about war and how it is to be conducted, because war is also a part of human life and for any book to provide complete guidance about life, war is also to be mentioned.
This is my “short answer” to your long post.
The ideal solution for your case is to go and see a good mental doctor and tell him that you are suffering from Islam Phobia.
There are many more violent verses in the koran but who's counting-not you. You are also unable to defend them in the present because Islamists use those very same verses to defend what they doing now. What happened in the past as opposed to what is happening now is irrelevant

Muslims are the ones who are DAILY killing innocent people around the world and you as an ostrich have your head in the sand. The bible teaches that people will kill in the name of satan and think that they are doing the work of god. This is what is happening in Islam. It is a malignant cancer that needs to be cut out of society. When Jesus comes he will do that and all muslims will weep and bend their knee to the Christian Jesus

You are in total denial of the fact that Islam is a political ideology and NOT a religion. Mohammad fancied himself as a bit of a prophet but he was an evil sinner who God will deal with at the right time

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#35373 Dec 13, 2012
1 Zaid and two others who were ordered by Abu Bakr to 'collect' the Quran, missed a complete verse and did not even remember it at the time.

The supposed 'word of Allah'

2 Hafsa's Quran was not a complete and 'authentic' one

3 The same verse was missed again by the same Zaid and others when they 'harmonised' the 'canonised' version under Uthman

4 All the copies that were sent out had this verse missing from them

5 When the Quran was completed, it was supposed to have been recited by the memorizers to make sure that all of it was accounted for by those who supposedly 'knew' the Quran well.

All of them missed this verse completely.
6 For some reason or other, Zaid remembered having heard it from Muhammad and needed to search for it again and make sure that he was right when Khuzaima corroborated its existence

7 Of course, also missing from the 'perfect' Quran, are all the verses and 'revelations' that DIED with the memorizers or were eaten by some domestic animal.

8 This asserts that no one at the time of Uthman had memorised the Quran in its entirity***

Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 2286 Narrated byAbuMusa al-Ash'ari
AbuHarb ibn AbulAswad reported on the authority of his father that AbuMusa al-Ash'ari sent for the reciters of Basrah. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur'an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basrah, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it.(But take care) that your lengthy recitals may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you.

We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity the (Surah) al-Bara'ah. I have however forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember from it: "If there were two valleys full of riches for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust."
And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat,
and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) from it: "O people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise"?(61:2.) And "That is recorded on your necks as a witness (against you) and you will be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection" (xvii.13).

All the above are only a small part of a greater sea of such abrogations, missing verses, missing Suras, added verses and interloped Suras that can never be attributed to any Divinity.

Contrary to all the allegations and dogma of the followers of Muhammad, the Quran that we have today is not the same that was allegedly 'revealed' to Muhammad but has been repeatedly and deliberately tampered with to fulfill sectarian agendas.
sausi

Melbourne, Australia

#35375 Dec 13, 2012
why one should be fear of any body this is
multi culture country" we all human
should respect all the religion.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35376 Dec 13, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Quran has 6666 verses, it is strange that you quoted these five or six verses and forgot about the rest 6650 + verses.
This is the common problem with “experts” like you, who do not study Quran to take guidance from it.
They just look for verses which describe as to how to conduct war with those who are bent upon rooting out Islam from its land and then try to give impression that this is allw what Quran teaches.
If you collect all the “fighting verses” in Bible, you will find that they are more than 10 times than what you see in Quran and they are much harsher.
But I never saw you people taking out a compaign against Bible that it promotes hate and violence.
Quran mentions about war and how it is to be conducted, because war is also a part of human life and for any book to provide complete guidance about life, war is also to be mentioned.
This is my “short answer” to your long post.
The ideal solution for your case is to go and see a good mental doctor and tell him that you are suffering from Islam Phobia.
I quoted 9 verses in post 35355 I'll interpret them on by one.
1. In acts of war against islam prisoners are be murdered, crucified or tortured by cutting off hands and feet.
2. Disbeliever are to have their fingertips and heads cut off.
3. If idolaters repent [convert] let them go free.
4. Hypocrites and alarmists [non believers] are to be killed.
5. Instructions to kill jews.
6. Kill any Jew who falls under your power.
7. Killing non believers is of no consequence to muslims.
8. In war most must be killed before taking prisoners, keep their goods.“But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.” Islam is manifested through killing it's enemies.
9. No need to interpret this one, Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.

Now what is it you don't understand here, 7 out of the 9 are direct instructions to kill non believers whether in war or not. Did these verses come from the koran or not, are you defending the koran as the infallible word of god or not can any of these verses be interpreted differently to my interpretation. I am sure there are some truly inspiring verses in the koran however the topic under discussion is “death threats” so I have quoted verses relevant to that topic, if we were talking about eating habits I would quote relevant verses.
I am not defending the bible in fact I have stated that in my opinion it is a seriously flawed document as is the koran. I am sure you know that most christian doctrine is now based on the words of Jesus not on the old testament. Quoting bible atrocities does not negate koranic atrocities, both contain gross absurdities, contradictions and straight up madness.
Make no mistake, I am only one of the vast majority of australians that have no fear of islam or muslims.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#35377 Dec 13, 2012
one by one
Syapes Checkers

UK

#35378 Dec 13, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
1 Zaid and two others who were ordered by Abu Bakr to 'collect' the Quran, missed a complete verse and did not even remember it at the time.
The supposed 'word of Allah'
2 Hafsa's Quran was not a complete and 'authentic' one
3 The same verse was missed again by the same Zaid and others when they 'harmonised' the 'canonised' version under Uthman
4 All the copies that were sent out had this verse missing from them
5 When the Quran was completed, it was supposed to have been recited by the memorizers to make sure that all of it was accounted for by those who supposedly 'knew' the Quran well.
All of them missed this verse completely.
6 For some reason or other, Zaid remembered having heard it from Muhammad and needed to search for it again and make sure that he was right when Khuzaima corroborated its existence
7 Of course, also missing from the 'perfect' Quran, are all the verses and 'revelations' that DIED with the memorizers or were eaten by some domestic animal.
8 This asserts that no one at the time of Uthman had memorised the Quran in its entirity***
Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 2286 Narrated byAbuMusa al-Ash'ari
AbuHarb ibn AbulAswad reported on the authority of his father that AbuMusa al-Ash'ari sent for the reciters of Basrah. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur'an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basrah, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it.(But take care) that your lengthy recitals may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you.
We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity the (Surah) al-Bara'ah. I have however forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember from it: "If there were two valleys full of riches for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust."
And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat,
and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) from it: "O people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise"?(61:2.) And "That is recorded on your necks as a witness (against you) and you will be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection" (xvii.13).
All the above are only a small part of a greater sea of such abrogations, missing verses, missing Suras, added verses and interloped Suras that can never be attributed to any Divinity.
Contrary to all the allegations and dogma of the followers of Muhammad, the Quran that we have today is not the same that was allegedly 'revealed' to Muhammad but has been repeatedly and deliberately tampered with to fulfill sectarian agendas.
Are you that DIRTY PERVERTED DEVIATE FILTH plagiarizing Nurse Redheart RATchett?
Nikki

Perth, Australia

#35379 Dec 13, 2012
You are sooo smart...Thanks for the enlightenment.
Dalia

Bronx, NY

#35380 Dec 13, 2012
For anyone who has ever been there, do you agree with the review of Australia on the Travel Explosion website?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35381 Dec 13, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many more violent verses in the koran but who's counting-not you. You are also unable to defend them in the present because Islamists use those very same verses to defend what they doing now. What happened in the past as opposed to what is happening now is irrelevant
Muslims are the ones who are DAILY killing innocent people around the world and you as an ostrich have your head in the sand. The bible teaches that people will kill in the name of satan and think that they are doing the work of god. This is what is happening in Islam. It is a malignant cancer that needs to be cut out of society. When Jesus comes he will do that and all muslims will weep and bend their knee to the Christian Jesus
You are in total denial of the fact that Islam is a political ideology and NOT a religion. Mohammad fancied himself as a bit of a prophet but he was an evil sinner who God will deal with at the right time
Count all the "fighting verses" in Quran and then compare it with how many you have in Bible. Still it would be at least 10 times more in Bible!!

We do not DEFEND Quran, we accept what is revealed from Creator of the Universe.

If Muslims are killing innocent people, the fault lies with Muslims and not Islam.

You criticise these Muslims and leave Islam. That is the technique you use for your own criminals and mischief makers. You do not say that Christianity is to be blamed for their actions.

But in case of Muslims you forget this rule.... and it is this double standard which is root cause of all this hate and hatred filled atmosphere.

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