Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46749 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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yeah right

Australia

#34452 Nov 22, 2012
Incest is common in the Middle East - actually it is the norm. There is in fact a link between incest and terrorism.

According to DeMause, girls would be subjected to a downpour of incestuous assault along the age gradient. DeMause later[16] draws a parallel between "Islamic terrorism"and sexual socialisation, stating terrorists are "products of a misogynist fundamentalist system".

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
yeah right

Australia

#34453 Nov 22, 2012
More on incest and "baby love" in the Middle East

"The genitals of a baby are stroked by its brothers and sisters to amuse and please it". An Egyptian mother would play with boy's genitals (Ammar, 1954:p105)[29]. The Kazak rub and play with boy's genitals, and allow masturbation (Ford and Beach, 1951:p188)[30]. In Pakistan, Pandjgur women may stroke the genitalia of their little sons, but only when their husbands, brothers or any other man is absent (Pastner, 1984:p224ff)[31].

Among the Turks, infants' "penises were kissed and stroked […] grandparents and parents fondled their genitals and repeated: "You are male, you are male" " (Delaney, 1991:p78-9)

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
yeah right

Australia

#34454 Nov 22, 2012
More on the cult of the penis in the Middle East, along with incestuous behaviour.

"[The boy's] penis, htewta ("little penis"), is the object of a veritable cult on the part of the women rearing him. Little sisters, aunts, maids, and mothers often attract the little boy's attention to his htewta and try to teach him to pronounce the word, which is quite a task given the gutteral initial letter h. Oe of the common games played by adult females with a male child is to get him to understand the connection between sidi (master) and the htwta. Hada sidhum ("This is their master"), say the women, pointing to the child's penis. The kissing of the child's penis is a normal gesture for a female relative who has not seen him since his birth. Tbarkallah 'ala-r-Rajal ("God protect the man"), she may whisper. The child's phallic pride is enhanced systematically, beginning in the first year of life".

Yes it starts early, this love affair that a muslim man has with his penis, which he no doubt confuses with his 'honour'.

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#34455 Nov 22, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
1. Jesus and his Sonship:
a. If Jesus was "One with God" in Purpose, so were every prophet before him, so what is so special about Jesus?
b. What info you have posted, show that he was a Created being, how then he became "Son of God"?
c. You still did not explain, how is Jesus different from Other "Son's of God" mentioned in your Bible. For example, Adam, Jacob, Ephraim. David and Solomon and many other.
d. Your "assumption" that Jesus being the Last and Final prophet, is your "own assumption". Do not say that it is what Jesus's opinion. Jesus did prophesize about coming of "Another Comforter like him" who will guide you into "All Truth"… so Jesus did not say that "He was the Last and Final Comforter"
2. Regarding your "Obiter Dicta"
I let is pass, because it has no "Intelligent Quotient" just rhetorical quips.
No it is not my assumption but that of Jesus and God
The comforter was not Mohammad but the spirit of God.
You are ignorant and are unable to understand the mission of God. Muslims are not able to understand the reasons of God
yeah right

Australia

#34456 Nov 22, 2012
Brother/sister incest

At the Medical Jurisprudence Third Symposium on "The Islamic Vision of Some Medical Practices" held from 18-21 April, 1987 A.D., Sheikh M. Al-Ghazali argued: "I swear to God, girls have come to me, they only played with themselves, and I believe them because their tears were faster than their words […][128]". El Saadawi (1980:p15-8)[129] relates that girls are refrained from masturbation by fear for their hymen; on the other hand, they would be frequently touched by their brothers.

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
yeah right

Australia

#34457 Nov 22, 2012
Sex with animals takes the place of sex with women or other boys.

"Riffian youths who have not yet attained the age of puberty have intercourse with she-asses in order to get sexual capacity and to make the penis grow (Ford, 1945 [1964:p20]).

http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
convict teacher

Parramatta, Australia

#34458 Nov 22, 2012
The traumatic experience &#1086;f The Crusades gave Europe its cultural awareness and its unity; but this same experience was destined henceforth also to provide the false color in which Islam was to &#1072;&#1088;&#10 88;&#1077;&#1072;& #1075; to Western eyes. Not simply because the Crusades meant war and bloodshed. So many wars have been waged between nations and subsequently forgotten, and so many animosities which in their time seemed ineradicable have later turned into friendships.

The damage caused by the Crusades was not restricted to &#1072; clash of weapons: it was, first and foremost, an intellectual damage-the poisoning of the Western mind against the Muslim world through &#1072; deliberate misrepresentation of the teachings and ideals of Islam. For, if-the &#1089;&#1072;11 for &#1072; crusade was to maintain its validity, the Prophet of the Muslims had, of necessity, to be stamped as the Anti-Christ and his religion depicted in the most lurid terms as &#1072; fount of amorality and perversion. It was at the time of the Crusades that the ludicrous notion that Islam was &#1072; religion of crude sensualism and brutal violence, of &#1072;&#1087; observance of ritual instead of &#1072; purification of the heart, &#1077;&#1087;tered the Western mind and remained there; and it was then that the name of the Prophet Muhammad -the same Muhammad who had insisted that his own followers respect the prophets of other religions was contemptuously transformed by Euro&#1088;&#1077; &#1072;&#1087;s into 'Mahound'. The age when the spirit of independent inquiry could raise its head was as yet far distant in Europe; it was easy for the powers-that-were to sow the dark seeds of hatred for &#1072; religion and civilization that was so different from their religion and civilization of the West.

Thus it was no accident that the fiery Cha&#1087;son de Roland, Which describes the legendary victory of Christendom over the Muslim 'heathen’, in southern F&#1075;&#1072;&#1 087;&#1089;&#1077;, was composed not at the time of those battles but three centuries later -to wit, shortly before the First Crusade – immediately to become a kind of &#1072; national &#1072;&#1087;th&# 1077;m' of Europe; and it is &#1087;&#1086; accident, either, that this warlike epic marks the beginning of &#1072; European literature, as distinct from the earlier, localized literature's: for hostility toward Islam stood over the cradle of European civilization.
yeah right

Australia

#34459 Nov 22, 2012
Iranian sexual practices and subsequent abuse of children.

"Since marriages can be contracted at any point after a girl has reached the age of 9, it is legally feasible for a very little girl to be married to a man of any age, and thus be physically at his mercy. This no doubt constitutes the broadest category of potential sexual abuse of children. One of the strongest arguments made in Iran against the custody of children, particularly girls, being given to the mother, is that on her remarriage, the children will be in danger of sexual abuse from the new husband. Sexual abuse of children, particularly little girls, often occurs at the hands of uncles and cousins staying under the same roof. In such cases, the child's mother is inevitably blamed for leaving her child unguarded, and little outrage is directed at the abuser. Sexual abuse of children in a family setting is not the concern of the police, nor are there any relevant social agencies to which it could be reported. A young servant boy would be withdrawn from the household by his parents if he were the victim of abuse. Only in the case of a young servant girl could the police be implicated, and then only if her virginity had been certified prior to employment" (Guljick and Guljick, 1978 [1979:p513-4])[248].
http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...

And finally, another excuse to violate a young girl with a 'virginity test' aka digital rape.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#34460 Nov 22, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
1. Jesus and his Sonship:
a. If Jesus was "One with God" in Purpose, so were every prophet before him, so what is so special about Jesus?
b. What info you have posted, show that he was a Created being, how then he became "Son of God"?
c. You still did not explain, how is Jesus different from Other "Son's of God" mentioned in your Bible. For example, Adam, Jacob, Ephraim. David and Solomon and many other.
d. Your "assumption" that Jesus being the Last and Final prophet, is your "own assumption". Do not say that it is what Jesus's opinion. Jesus did prophesize about coming of "Another Comforter like him" who will guide you into "All Truth"… so Jesus did not say that "He was the Last and Final Comforter"
2. Regarding your "Obiter Dicta"
I let is pass, because it has no "Intelligent Quotient" just rhetorical quips.
You are so stupid it is embarrassing to read your posts

Muhammad was not one with God he was against God

Jesus documented that any prophets after him were false

You ignore the scriptures were he teaches this

It is a waste of time trying to explain this to you because you are so brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!
yeah right

Australia

#34461 Nov 22, 2012
In the Arab world...
"The family in general, including the parents, will masturbate the infant boy to "increase its size and strengthen it". This can go on for hours (Edwardes, Masters, 1963). In boyhood there is mutual masturbation, fellatio, and anal intercourse.[…] Little girls are taught to stay in a very protected, segregated environment. They often become child brides before puberty (Omran, 1976; Standley, 1981)[[257]
http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
Scum Fixer

East Maitland, Australia

#34462 Nov 22, 2012
convict teacher wrote:
The traumatic experience &#1086;f The Crusades gave Europe its cultural awareness and its unity; but this same experience was destined henceforth also to provide the false color in which Islam was to &#1072;&#1088;&#10 88;&#1077;&#1072;& #1075; to Western eyes. Not simply because the Crusades meant war and bloodshed. So many wars have been waged between nations and subsequently forgotten, and so many animosities which in their time seemed ineradicable have later turned into friendships.
The damage caused by the Crusades was not restricted to &#1072; clash of weapons: it was, first and foremost, an intellectual damage-the poisoning of the Western mind against the Muslim world through &#1072; deliberate misrepresentation of the teachings and ideals of Islam. For, if-the &#1089;&#1072;11 for &#1072; crusade was to maintain its validity, the Prophet of the Muslims had, of necessity, to be stamped as the Anti-Christ and his religion depicted in the most lurid terms as &#1072; fount of amorality and perversion. It was at the time of the Crusades that the ludicrous notion that Islam was &#1072; religion of crude sensualism and brutal violence, of &#1072;&#1087; observance of ritual instead of &#1072; purification of the heart, &#1077;&#1087;tered the Western mind and remained there; and it was then that the name of the Prophet Muhammad -the same Muhammad who had insisted that his own followers respect the prophets of other religions was contemptuously transformed by Euro&#1088;&#1077; &#1072;&#1087;s into 'Mahound'. The age when the spirit of independent inquiry could raise its head was as yet far distant in Europe; it was easy for the powers-that-were to sow the dark seeds of hatred for &#1072; religion and civilization that was so different from their religion and civilization of the West.
Thus it was no accident that the fiery Cha&#1087;son de Roland, Which describes the legendary victory of Christendom over the Muslim 'heathen’, in southern F&#1075;&#1072;&#1 087;&#1089;&#1077;, was composed not at the time of those battles but three centuries later -to wit, shortly before the First Crusade – immediately to become a kind of &#1072; national &#1072;&#1087;th&# 1077;m' of Europe; and it is &#1087;&#1086; accident, either, that this warlike epic marks the beginning of &#1072; European literature, as distinct from the earlier, localized literature's: for hostility toward Islam stood over the cradle of European civilization.
Shut Up, you Miserable Uneducated Immigrant , Go back to your Slumland You Angry Embittered Fool..... Drive your stinking taxi into the sea.... F OFF
sid

Chermside, Australia

#34463 Nov 22, 2012
yeah right wrote:
In the Arab world...
"The family in general, including the parents, will masturbate the infant boy to "increase its size and strengthen it". This can go on for hours (Edwardes, Masters, 1963). In boyhood there is mutual masturbation, fellatio, and anal intercourse.[…] Little girls are taught to stay in a very protected, segregated environment. They often become child brides before puberty (Omran, 1976; Standley, 1981)[[257]
http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/A...
I wonder if muq would care to address any of this, noooooooooooooooooo.
yeah right

Australia

#34464 Nov 22, 2012
"A study by Nicolai Sennels, a Danish psychologist, has revealed that about 70 percent of all Pakistanis are inbred and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 “More stillbirths among immigrants“). A rough estimate reveals that close to half of everybody living in the Arab world is inbred. A large percentage of the parents that are blood related come from families where intermarriage has been a tradition for generations.[2] The Table-1 below shows the results of the investigation.
Table – 1
Country Percentage of incestuous marriages
World 50
Pakistan 70
England 50 of Muslim immigrants Pakistan
Denmark 40 of Muslim immigrants Pakistan
Saudi Arabia 67
Jordan & Kuwait 64
Iraq 60
UAR & Qatar 54
Sudan 63
http://www.actforaustralia.com/articles/inbre...
yeah right

Australia

#34465 Nov 22, 2012
sid wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder if muq would care to address any of this, noooooooooooooooooo.
LOL sigh.

Any sort of rational dialogue is not possible I'm afraid.
convict teacher

Parramatta, Australia

#34466 Nov 22, 2012
Natty Bumppo wrote:
<quoted text>
I never saw such cowards as I did in Afghanistan. I enjoyed taking
here dog, shove this up your arse after you are done, fortunately for Afghans, next time around they will keep you as their dancing boy, llol,llol,llol,llol,

NOVEMBER 22, 2012

Another Lost War to A bunch of dudes in bed sheets and flip-flops
Defeated in Afghanistan
by BRIAN CLOUGHLEY
“We must demonstrate to the people and to the Taliban that Afghan and International Security Assistance Forces are here to safeguard the Afghan people and that we are in this to win. That is our clear objective.”
– General (‘Embedded’) Petraeus, July 4, 2010
“Clearly, the security situation is improving, the number of enemy initiated attacks is decreasing and the vast majority of the Afghan population lives in areas where peace and stability has already been established.”
– Spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), Brigadier General Gunter Katz, November 5, 2012
Nearly half of Afghans think their country is not moving the right direction, fear for their family’s safety, or are frightened to run into a member of their police or army, according to a nationwide poll.
Guardian (UK) November 14, 2012
Voutenay sur Cure, France
A week after the spokesman for foreign forces in Afghanistan made his ridiculous pronouncement about peace and stability four rockets were fired into Kabul city, home to one of the world’s most corrupt governments. Mercifully, only one person was killed, and there wasn’t much damage, but the militants had made the point that they can continue attacks whenever and wherever they want. The amazing hi-tech gadgets of all the foreign forces can do a bit to reduce the number and effectiveness of attacks all over the country, but the fact that a few thousand raggy baggy Taliban (or call the insurgents what you will) can even begin to take on such a massive war machine is astonishing. So far this month they have killed twelve US and British soldiers, who — all of them — have died for nothing. And the politicians and generals continue to feed us upbeat garbage about their lost war.
Almost everyone has forgotten the Davis Report of January this year in which one of the few honorable professional military commentators on the Afghanistan shambles made it clear that “Senior ranking US military leaders have so distorted the truth when communicating with the US Congress and American people in regards to conditions on the ground in Afghanistan that the truth has become unrecognizable. This deception has damaged America’s credibility among both our allies and enemies, severely limiting our ability to reach a political solution to the war in Afghanistan.”
The writer of this well-researched exposure of inefficiency was Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis, who is decidedly not of the West Point upper crust like Petraeus and his embedded Broadwell. Predictably, his analysis was smothered in a hazy maze of media-savvy pronouncements by military mouthpieces. And journalists whom you would think might support the cause and carry on his fight to influence government and public opinion seemed to wither away after the first (unavoidable) necessity to report his revelations. The Pentagon and the army were clever in avoiding direct criticism of Davis because this would have resulted in public exposure of inefficiency and misrepresentation on the part of many senior military officers. The Pentagon has learned a lot about manipulating the media, but it’s a pity it hasn’t devoted comparable energy to examining the terrible leadership blunders in Iraq and Afghanistan. And for the current situation there are few people more to blame than the bright shining liar Petraeus.

convict teacher

Parramatta, Australia

#34467 Nov 22, 2012
In March last year Petraeus testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Taliban’s momentum “has been arrested in much of the country and reversed in a number of important areas”. He claimed that progress was “significant,” though “fragile,” but “on the right azimuth to accomplish the objective” of having Afghan troops take over from western forces by the end of 2014.
Don’t you just love the word “azimuth”? It’s a classic quasi-intellectual confection that is meant to impress audiences without conveying anything of meaning. No Senator could ask the bright and shiny Petraeus exactly what he meant by “on the right azimuth”. They wouldn’t have dared to do so. And ignorance is bliss. He might have meant “in the right direction”, but using such a simple term tends to pin the speaker down to having to explain unintended precision.
Webster’s Dictionary defines ‘azimuth’ in terms of astronomy — although astrology might have been a better choice in this case — and also notes that the word has a military connotation in that it describes “the movement of a bomb or missile on its downward course.” Maybe that’s what Petraeus intended. But when he delivered his upbeat astrological gobbledygook, intriguing things were happening in Afghanistan, on a downward course.
***
As I wrote in the Pakistan paper The News last week:
The publication Defence News comments expertly on military topics and recently described the performance of the US Air Force in supplying troops in Afghanistan with vital stores. It noted that last year “43 forward operating bases were supplied solely by air, with 27,000 troops receiving all of their food, water, ammunition and fuel from the sky, dropped primarily by the US Air Force ... The necessity to resupply troops by air comes from several factors, not the least of which is the skyrocketing number of roadside bombs US, NATO and Afghan troops face, making travel by road a risky bet.”
This is a factual, down to earth (literally) record of proficiency. It is admirable that the US Air Force is capable of such expertise. But it is also an admission of total strategic and tactical failure, because the very reliance on airdrop resupply shows that the vast hi-tech military machines of the West are incapable of controlling roads in a country where they have been fighting a futile war for ten wretched years in which so many thousands of soldiers and civilians have been killed or wounded.
Lt-Colonel Davis described the fiasco in detail, in that
The United States, along with over 40 NATO and other allied nations, possesses the most sophisticated, powerful, and technologically advanced military force that has ever hit the field of combat. We have the finest and most well trained soldiers that exist anywhere; we have armored vehicles of every type, to include MIA2 Main Battle Tanks; artillery, mortars, advanced rockets, precision guided missiles, and hand-held rocket launchers; we have a wholly uncontested air force composed of NATO’s most advanced ground attack fighter jets, bombers, AWACS controllers, spy planes, signals-interception aircraft, B 1 bombers, attack helicopters, and massive transport jets to ferry our troops and critical supplies where they are needed; we have thousands of unmanned aerial drones both for intelligence collection and missile-launching; we have a helicopter fleet for personnel transport and attack support; we have an enormous constellation of spy satellites; logistics that are as limitless as the combined weight of the industrial world; we have every technological device known to the profession of arms; we are able to intercept virtually every form of insurgent communication to include cell phones, walkie-talkies, satellite phones, email, and even some ability to eavesdrop on otherwise private conversations; a remarkably capable cohort of intelligence analysts that are as educated, well trained and equipped to a degree that used to exist only in science fiction;
convict teacher

Parramatta, Australia

#34468 Nov 22, 2012
and our various nations have the economic wherewithal to spend $10s of billions each month to fund it all. And for almost 10 years we have pitted this unbelievable and unprecedented capability against:
A bunch of dudes in bed sheets and flip-flops.
He is so right.
We shouldn’t be surprised about the Afghanistan shambles, because generals have been lying for years. Does anyone remember Pat Tillman? He was killed in a bungled shooting in Afghanistan by some of his comrades in an episode of panic and gross incompetence. The US army tried to cover up the tragedy by telling lies. The generals decided they needed a hero (which Pat undoubtedly was) and Generals McChrystal, Abizaid and Kensinger — and many others — told majestic lies to try to make things look good.(Although Kensinger’s filthy deceit was so blatant that he could not escape censure, minor as it was.) So should we be surprised about the lies that Petraeus tells to his wife — and to who else and about what?
In 2005 I wrote that
The insurgency in Afghanistan will continue until foreign troops leave, whenever that might be. After a while, the government in Kabul will collapse, and there will be anarchy until a brutal, ruthless, drug-rich warlord achieves power. He will rule the country as it has always been ruled by Afghans: by threats, religious ferocity, deceit, bribery, and outright savagery, when the latter can be practiced without retribution. And the latest foreign occupation will become just another memory.
But Petraeus told the world that “we are in this to win. That is our clear objective,” and all the toadying puppets in Washington believed him. Just as his wife did.
It is wonderfully ironic that some of the most forceful criticism of the Afghanistan debacle came last week from a British Lord, one Paddy Ashdown, known by the UK’s merciless tabloid press as ‘Paddy Pantsdown’ following his affair with his secretary. His wife of thirty years forgave him his dalliance, just as the long-suffering spouse of Petraeus seems to have done. But at least Paddy has more of a grip (no double entendre intended) on the Afghanistan situation than Petraeus. He made it clear on November 16 that “We cannot pretend there is any more to do in Afghanistan. The urgent priority is to get out ... It is not worth wasting one more life in Afghanistan. All that we can achieve has now been achieved ... All that we might have achieved if we had done things differently has been lost. The only rational policy now is to leave quickly, in good order and in the company of our allies. This is the only cause for which further lives should be risked.”
But the Petraeus legacy of “in this to win” will remain under Obama, sentencing who knows how many more soldiers to death for a cause that has never been defined in terms other than “to safeguard the Afghan people.” But how do you ‘safeguard’ people?
Well, perhaps by embedding them.
Brian Cloughley’s website is www.beecluff.com
convict teacher

Parramatta, Australia

#34469 Nov 22, 2012
Scum Fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
Shut Up, you Miserable Uneducated Immigrant , Go back to your Slumland You Angry Embittered Fool..... Drive your stinking taxi into the sea.... F OFF
What’s the matter dear? you sound a bit edgy, didn’t you get it up your arse by your negro lover last night. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha h
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34470 Nov 22, 2012
convict teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
What’s the matter dear? you sound a bit edgy, didn’t you get it up your arse by your negro lover last night. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha h
lol, what a feisty inbred! Keep neighing!
yeah right

Australia

#34471 Nov 22, 2012
This is only one of Donkey's troubles. His infantile narcissism precludes any ability to have a normal relationship with a woman. The following describes it well.

There is a "...psychosexual pathology that is intensified in a setting of increased male infantile narcissism, devaluation of women, and abuse. The boys tend to grow up to be insecure men, fearful of women (who retain the infantile omnipotent core inherited form the earliest relationship to the mother) and disdainful of women specifically because of their power."

And with respect to his deviancy and muslim deviancy in general, "It is no surprise that the highest per capita frequency of internet searches for porn are found in Arab countries. As a young Saudi man once told me in a personal communication, "everyone I know surfs the net for porn all day long." "

http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/the_arab_...

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