Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46740 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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sid

Chermside, Australia

#34389 Nov 21, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
If you call our Shielaa the Great an intelligent women, it is YOU who should get your IQ tested!!
The problem it seems is with you and not me!!
And who you think you are to ORDER me to answer some post? I answer or I do not answer, depending on whether it is FIT to be answered.
I do not answer all posts addressed to me, I pick and choose. This is another quality of an Intelligent person!!
You don't answer because you can't answer, the points raised in post 34344 are abhorrent to the christian religion, in yours they are condoned and actively encouraged. You rapacious animals think your morally bankrupt behavior is acceptable, well it might be in your 3rd world cesspit but it's not in any civilised country.
You pick and choose what you answer because you are a bloody coward and can't deal with reality. Your filthy murderous, treacherous belief system was born of the sword and shall die of the sword [a bullet through the brain].
Anonymous

Islamabad, Pakistan

#34390 Nov 21, 2012
I think your post is wrong Muslims are not terrorist.Now I have come to realize , what happens to your thinking and reasoning power, once you become this much biased. And it is wastage of time to answer your post and answer your comments on this story.
yeah right

Adelaide, Australia

#34391 Nov 21, 2012
What a wonderful "culture"!

Pack raped while attempting to report on the so-called "Arab Spring" and while a pack of rabid dogs in human skin took photos on their phones, Logan suffers from persistent nightmares.

Is this you Casual Donkey? Hiding from rape crimes against women and/or children in your wonderful muslim country of birth?

"Men in many places are no better than animals and women are less important to them than a camel or a cow. They are abused in many cultures and even in China, a woman was not allowed to birth a female child under threat of law."

"We need to stop thinking that these men are salvageable. They aren't. They should be removed from the planet if caught and convicted. Why should society pay to give these anti-humans room and board and our planets precious oxygen? They should not."

http://cabproreport.typepad.com/weblog/2012/0 ...

You have no respect for this country in which you live, and you have no respect for human life.

You are not salvageable. You are monsters who should be removed from the planet.
Casual Observer

East Maitland, Australia

#34392 Nov 21, 2012
I often wonder why convicts are so obsessed with perverse sex, wether we are discussing politics, religion, social harmony or any subject on earth, a convict like "Yeah Right" will always twist it to sex. Could this be the result of sexual trauma they suffer at the hands of their family members and church bishops?(Honest question no insult intended)

There is ample evidence that western segment of the human race has almost always been the first to be attracted to evil, weapons of mass murder they have already used and are using but are frightened if someone else gets them, stealing other peoples land and pretending all is well is yet another blatant fact, stealing ideas and knowledge of other people and using it for their agenda is again evident, truly promothean civilisation,

As usual these uneducated convicts won't have a clue about what promothean man is, let me try and explain in simplest possible terms for convict minds, otherwise far above is this from their perverted sensibilities, these people who have made industry out of every thing, prostitution=sex workers, dirty movies =porn industry, killing people =collateral damage, killing animals= culling, destroying the insides of this lovely planet=fracking, the list is endless. Anyway we diverge, back to promothean man;

"Quote"

spirituality vs. Western civilization's money-oriented values.

The author puts forward his concept that there are basically two kinds of
people on the planet: "Reverential Man" and "Promethean Man".
Reverential Man, he explains, is the person who reveres nature and
realises the importance of preserving it. Promethean Man feels an
empty longing inside himself because he has lost his connection to,
and closeness with, nature. He seeks to relieve his inner hunger and
longing by consuming the world around him. Western civilization, he
proposes, is basically a civilization of Promethean Man, destroying
nature in its path as it spreads, thereby ensuring its own eventual
self-destruction, unless it can reverse its outlook and learn to
revere and preserve the natural aspects of the planet.
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34393 Nov 21, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
He was one in purpose you dingbat. Carrying out the will of God!!!!!
This is what Jesus said:
1. Jesus Never Said "I am God" in an un-equivocal, direct way. Whenever he seems to be saying this, when you read in context it is always about being one 'in purpose'.
2. Jesus Never Said "Worship me". He always directed worship towards the father, and always submitted to the will of his father. Luke 18:19 "Jesus answered him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." If Jesus is God why would he say this?
3. God cannot be born. Jesus was born.
4. God cannot die. He is from everlasting to everlasting. Jesus died. This is so simple!
5. Nobody has ever seen God. People saw Jesus.
6. Jesus never taught the trinity. The word trinity doesn't appear in the Bible, and is man-made.
7. God cannot be constrained into a box of any kind. He doesn't have a physical body i.e. You cannot put Him inside a human form and say "there is God". The Almighty Creator is much bigger than this. He makes his abode outside time and physical contraints.
8. Jesus ate, slept and prayed. God has no need for any of these (He is self-sufficient), and a God that needs to pray is not God at all. God doesn't have human needs. He cannot become a human, just the same way He cannot die, and cannot be beaten (this would go against the very fabric of His being). God did not become a human. The Bible tells us He would manifest to us a Son that would reveal His character to us. Jesus Christ is Immanuel, "God with us". Since we have already established that God cannot be constrained to any human form, this cannot mean that God came down to Earth as a human, so we must think outside the square. In a spiritual sense, Jesus was "God with us" in every possible way. As a representative of God, his purpose was to show us who God is and what He is about.
9. God doesn't change. His attributes are the same today, tomorrow and forever. eg. God is truthful, so He is not going to lie (ever!) or for anyone!
10. The Old Testament is very EXPLICIT with respect to who God is. There is ONE God. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me." God doesn't change his mind and all of a sudden there is 2 (or 3) Gods.
God is complete on his own. Jesus was sent to fulfill the mission that God gave him just as all other prophets before him were. There were no further prophets after Jesus. Mohammad is a false prophet.
DO YOU GET IT NOW DINGBAT?
So why do you worship Jesus than????? Do you believe Jesus was perfect? God threwed all his sins on that one man Jesus and he became perfect afterwards? Then he was allowed to be God's wing man?

All this elaborate and symbolic sin atonement. I don't buy it. It is easier to envision the in my opinion crueller Allah than this Jesus God system.

The main difference between Islam and Christianity is God elevated Jesus to his right hand side and allowed him to be worshipped.

Whereas Allah can be worshipped. Fullstop.
sid

Chermside, Australia

#34394 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Christmas is a pagan ritual and has nothing to do with Christianity? As true Muslims it is our moral duty to bring the message of truth to you idol worshiping pagans, lest you deny on the day of recompense that the truth did not reach you. This way we will be absolved of blame as we did pass on the truth but you criminals were heedless.
Secondly, how idiotic of you to expect others to respect your convict culture when you have the audacity to non-stop manufacture lies and spew hate and disrespect what is sacred to those from whom you expect respect?
Are you for real idiot? Is that the norm in that stupid village you live in. Learn to respect what is dear to others and you will get respect in return, you criminals have been spewing your hate for Islam for years and not a single muslim has been convinced or has even acknowledged your stupid idiotic ideas and lies.
That says a lot about convict power of reasoning, LLOL,LLOL,LLOL
If I am having christmas lunch in the park with my family and a muslim comes up to me and tells me that our lunch affronts his religion then I will do my moral duty and cave his ugly head in, if he wants to mind his own business and not interfere with me I will not interfere with him.
yeah right

Adelaide, Australia

#34395 Nov 21, 2012
tahir_ilyas wrote:
I think your post is wrong Muslims are not terrorist.Now I have come to realize , what happens to your thinking and reasoning power, once you become this much biased. And it is wastage of time to answer your post and answer your comments on this story.
Your post is irrelevant and responds to nothing in particular so why bother to write it.

...and in spite of your concern for others' "reasoning power" you people riot in the tens of THOUSANDS globally about a ridiculous film you haven't even bothered to watch. Sheep, you're just baaaing sheep.
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34396 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Observer wrote:
I often wonder why convicts are so obsessed with perverse sex, wether we are discussing politics, religion, social harmony or any subject on earth, a convict like "Yeah Right" will always twist it to sex. Could this be the result of sexual trauma they suffer at the hands of their family members and church bishops?(Honest question no insult intended)
There is ample evidence that western segment of the human race has almost always been the first to be attracted to evil, weapons of mass murder they have already used and are using but are frightened if someone else gets them, stealing other peoples land and pretending all is well is yet another blatant fact, stealing ideas and knowledge of other people and using it for their agenda is again evident, truly promothean civilisation,
As usual these uneducated convicts won't have a clue about what promothean man is, let me try and explain in simplest possible terms for convict minds, otherwise far above is this from their perverted sensibilities, these people who have made industry out of every thing, prostitution=sex workers, dirty movies =porn industry, killing people =collateral damage, killing animals= culling, destroying the insides of this lovely planet=fracking, the list is endless. Anyway we diverge, back to promothean man;
"Quote"
spirituality vs. Western civilization's money-oriented values.
The author puts forward his concept that there are basically two kinds of
people on the planet: "Reverential Man" and "Promethean Man".
Reverential Man, he explains, is the person who reveres nature and
realises the importance of preserving it. Promethean Man feels an
empty longing inside himself because he has lost his connection to,
and closeness with, nature. He seeks to relieve his inner hunger and
longing by consuming the world around him. Western civilization, he
proposes, is basically a civilization of Promethean Man, destroying
nature in its path as it spreads, thereby ensuring its own eventual
self-destruction, unless it can reverse its outlook and learn to
revere and preserve the natural aspects of the planet.
lol! What a feisty inbred! Keep neighing!
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34397 Nov 21, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
He was one in purpose you dingbat. Carrying out the will of God!!!!!
This is what Jesus said:
1. Jesus Never Said "I am God" in an un-equivocal, direct way. Whenever he seems to be saying this, when you read in context it is always about being one 'in purpose'.
2. Jesus Never Said "Worship me". He always directed worship towards the father, and always submitted to the will of his father. Luke 18:19 "Jesus answered him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." If Jesus is God why would he say this?
3. God cannot be born. Jesus was born.
4. God cannot die. He is from everlasting to everlasting. Jesus died. This is so simple!
5. Nobody has ever seen God. People saw Jesus.
6. Jesus never taught the trinity. The word trinity doesn't appear in the Bible, and is man-made.
7. God cannot be constrained into a box of any kind. He doesn't have a physical body i.e. You cannot put Him inside a human form and say "there is God". The Almighty Creator is much bigger than this. He makes his abode outside time and physical contraints.
8. Jesus ate, slept and prayed. God has no need for any of these (He is self-sufficient), and a God that needs to pray is not God at all. God doesn't have human needs. He cannot become a human, just the same way He cannot die, and cannot be beaten (this would go against the very fabric of His being). God did not become a human. The Bible tells us He would manifest to us a Son that would reveal His character to us. Jesus Christ is Immanuel, "God with us". Since we have already established that God cannot be constrained to any human form, this cannot mean that God came down to Earth as a human, so we must think outside the square. In a spiritual sense, Jesus was "God with us" in every possible way. As a representative of God, his purpose was to show us who God is and what He is about.
9. God doesn't change. His attributes are the same today, tomorrow and forever. eg. God is truthful, so He is not going to lie (ever!) or for anyone!
10. The Old Testament is very EXPLICIT with respect to who God is. There is ONE God. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me." God doesn't change his mind and all of a sudden there is 2 (or 3) Gods.
God is complete on his own. Jesus was sent to fulfill the mission that God gave him just as all other prophets before him were. There were no further prophets after Jesus. Mohammad is a false prophet.
DO YOU GET IT NOW DINGBAT?
From your definition and generally I have always wondered why Jesus could not have come during lets say the 21st century digital age... The entire world will get to see and hear Jesus's message.

I get that there can't be multiple Jesus's because the sin atonement argument. Makes no sense to me.

And it annoys me that if God is going to pull of something like this that has created so much confusion among the now splintered 70 denominations. Why didn't he explain the mechanism he used clearly! Why must Jesus talk in circles even when outside the context of parables?
yeah right

Adelaide, Australia

#34398 Nov 21, 2012
As if any further proof was needed, Casual Donkey's post above illustrates that muslims will forever confuse "sex" with "violence". They don't understand that these are different in practice as well as conceptually.

This is why they don't and can't understand that rape, female genital mutilation and violence against women and children are human rights abuses and this is why they will always be rabid, violent, slavering dogs.
Casual Observer

East Maitland, Australia

#34399 Nov 21, 2012
Here convicts, feel proud of murdering children and women, your favourite activity,

A prominent international affairs expert says the recent Israeli attack on the Gaza Strip is part of a “long pattern” of strategic folly by the Tel Aviv regime.

In an article posted on the website of Foreign Policy on Tuesday, Stephen M. Walt described Israel’s war against the Gaza Strip in December 2008 as "worse than a crime” and “a blunder" and said the regime’s new offensive against Gaza was the continuation of Tel Aviv’s folly.

“The latest pummeling of Gaza seems equally foolish... But it's part of a long pattern rather than an isolated incident,” he noted.

The senior expert said that Israeli officials “had frequently engaged in acts of strategic folly.”

He advised US leaders not to allow Israel to influence Washington’s Middle East policy.

“One obvious lesson is that US leaders shouldn't allow US Middle East policy to be overly influenced by an ally whose strategic judgment is often even worse than our own,” Walt said.

Israel launched a massive 22-day attack against Gaza in December 2008 that killed more than 1,400 Palestinians.

At least 139 Gazans, including many women and children, have been killed and more than 1,100 others have been injured in over 1,450 Israeli attacks on the besieged Gaza Strip since November 14.

AR/PKH/HJL
sid

Chermside, Australia

#34400 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Observer wrote:
I often wonder why convicts are so obsessed with perverse sex, wether we are discussing politics, religion, social harmony or any subject on earth, a convict like "Yeah Right" will always twist it to sex. Could this be the result of sexual trauma they suffer at the hands of their family members and church bishops?(Honest question no insult intended)
There is ample evidence that western segment of the human race has almost always been the first to be attracted to evil, weapons of mass murder they have already used and are using but are frightened if someone else gets them, stealing other peoples land and pretending all is well is yet another blatant fact, stealing ideas and knowledge of other people and using it for their agenda is again evident, truly promothean civilisation,
As usual these uneducated convicts won't have a clue about what promothean man is, let me try and explain in simplest possible terms for convict minds, otherwise far above is this from their perverted sensibilities, these people who have made industry out of every thing, prostitution=sex workers, dirty movies =porn industry, killing people =collateral damage, killing animals= culling, destroying the insides of this lovely planet=fracking, the list is endless. Anyway we diverge, back to promothean man;
"Quote"
spirituality vs. Western civilization's money-oriented values.
The author puts forward his concept that there are basically two kinds of
people on the planet: "Reverential Man" and "Promethean Man".
Reverential Man, he explains, is the person who reveres nature and
realises the importance of preserving it. Promethean Man feels an
empty longing inside himself because he has lost his connection to,
and closeness with, nature. He seeks to relieve his inner hunger and
longing by consuming the world around him. Western civilization, he
proposes, is basically a civilization of Promethean Man, destroying
nature in its path as it spreads, thereby ensuring its own eventual
self-destruction, unless it can reverse its outlook and learn to
revere and preserve the natural aspects of the planet.
No doubt you would consider yourself to be a shining example of "Reverential Man", so why did you leave paradise and all your reverential brothers and sisters and come here.
NO to 3rd world stupidity

Australia

#34401 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Observer wrote:
I often wonder why convicts are so obsessed with perverse sex, wether we are discussing politics, religion, social harmony or any subject on earth, a convict like "Yeah Right" will always twist it to sex. Could this be the result of sexual trauma they suffer at the hands of their family members and church bishops?(Honest question no insult intended)
There is ample evidence that western segment of the human race has almost always been the first to be attracted to evil, weapons of mass murder they have already used and are using but are frightened if someone else gets them, stealing other peoples land and pretending all is well is yet another blatant fact, stealing ideas and knowledge of other people and using it for their agenda is again evident, truly promothean civilisation,
As usual these uneducated convicts won't have a clue about what promothean man is, let me try and explain in simplest possible terms for convict minds, otherwise far above is this from their perverted sensibilities, these people who have made industry out of every thing, prostitution=sex workers, dirty movies =porn industry, killing people =collateral damage, killing animals= culling, destroying the insides of this lovely planet=fracking, the list is endless. Anyway we diverge, back to promothean man;
"Quote"
spirituality vs. Western civilization's money-oriented values.
The author puts forward his concept that there are basically two kinds of
people on the planet: "Reverential Man" and "Promethean Man".
Reverential Man, he explains, is the person who reveres nature and
realises the importance of preserving it. Promethean Man feels an
empty longing inside himself because he has lost his connection to,
and closeness with, nature. He seeks to relieve his inner hunger and
longing by consuming the world around him. Western civilization, he
proposes, is basically a civilization of Promethean Man, destroying
nature in its path as it spreads, thereby ensuring its own eventual
self-destruction, unless it can reverse its outlook and learn to
revere and preserve the natural aspects of the planet.
I am curious, if Western Culture is so bad, why are so many Muslims running from Islamic dominated regimes?

If porn is a symptom of evil, why are 9 of the top 10 countries that consume online pornography all Muslim Majority countries? The exception is Vietnam?

If sexual perversions are indicators of evil, why do you follow a Prophet who received inspiration dressed in women's clothes, had sex with children, raped numerous women and had multiple sexual partners each night?

How do you explain following a sexual predator who recommended young girls because they are better to fondle?

It Islam is the way, why does it ALWAYS result in discrimination, war, poverty and sexual inequality?

It God likes Muslims, why do they always end up living and acting like animals?

I noticed you asked how God could also be Jesus. My answer is God can do anything he damn well wants, he is God you moron.
yeah right

Adelaide, Australia

#34402 Nov 21, 2012
Muslims have problems with the concepts of sex and perversion. They don't understand that these are different concepts, as Casual Donkey clearly indicates. He is probably Pakistani.

"With over 20 million internet users and growing fast, Pakistan has managed to secure the number one slot for searching the term ‘sex’ globally for ALL YEARS.

According to a 2010 Fox News report, Pakistan had outranked all countries in Google searches for pornographic terms last year."

They like to use words in their searches such as "rape", "goats", and anything filthy they can think of. Following Pakistan's lead in google searches for SEX is India and Egypt.
Casual Observer

Australia

#34403 Nov 21, 2012
sid wrote:
<quoted text>
If I am having christmas lunch in the park with my family and a muslim comes up to me and tells me that our lunch affronts his religion then I will do my moral duty and cave his ugly head in, if he wants to mind his own business and not interfere with me I will not interfere with him.
It is no concern of mine if you eat pigs or follow pagan rituals, I just don't want to be part of such paganism. And as far as caving heads in I guarantee you if any pagan tried that with me then I also have the moral duty o to break his neck. If a pagan minds hs own business I have no quarrell with him.
yeah right

Australia

#34404 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Donkey states that he has "no problem" with what he refers to as "pagans"... but Logan, the reporter who was pack raped nearly to death by the donkey rapists' comrades in Egypt during the so-called "Arab Spring" would probably say different.

As would the tens of millions of muslim women with their genitals forcibly cut off and removed.
yeah right

Australia

#34405 Nov 21, 2012
Pakistan is really an evolved community

... between 70 and 90 percent of women in Pakistan have suffered some form of abuse.[1]

An estimated 5000 women are killed per year from domestic violence, with thousands of others maimed or disabled.[2]

The majority of victims of violence have no legal recourse. Law enforcement authorities do not view domestic violence as a crime and usually refuse to register any cases brought to them.

Given the very few women's shelters in the country, victims have limited ability to escape from violent situations.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violen ...
yeah right

Australia

#34406 Nov 21, 2012
Iran looks like a swell place to live too.

66% married women in Iran are subjected to some kind of domestic violence in the first year of their marriage, either by their husbands or by their in-laws.

All married women who were participants in this study in Iran have experienced 7.4% of the 9 categories of abuse (killing, abuse, legal, financial, sexual etc).

The more children in a family, the more likely domestic violence will occur towards women.

9.63% of women in the study reported wishing their husbands would die, as a result of the abuse they have experienced.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violen ...

I wonder if Donkey's wife, or future wife (god help her) will wish him dead?
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34407 Nov 21, 2012
yeah right wrote:
Iran looks like a swell place to live too.
66% married women in Iran are subjected to some kind of domestic violence in the first year of their marriage, either by their husbands or by their in-laws.
All married women who were participants in this study in Iran have experienced 7.4% of the 9 categories of abuse (killing, abuse, legal, financial, sexual etc).
The more children in a family, the more likely domestic violence will occur towards women.
9.63% of women in the study reported wishing their husbands would die, as a result of the abuse they have experienced.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violen ...
I wonder if Donkey's wife, or future wife (god help her) will wish him dead?
Well, it will take a few year before the young 'un will be able to conceptualise the notion of death.

Give it a year (turns 10) before she would wish he would fall over and hurt himself. And another year where she wishes the donkey would drown in his own piss.
Peter Hall

Australia

#34408 Nov 21, 2012
Casual Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
It is no concern of mine if you eat pigs or follow pagan rituals, I just don't want to be part of such paganism. And as far as caving heads in I guarantee you if any pagan tried that with me then I also have the moral duty o to break his neck. If a pagan minds hs own business I have no quarrell with him.
MUQ, lets get real here, Muslims are not known for their warrior ability, and frankly they have proved time and time again to be cowards when ever confronted.

The Jews have kicked Muslim ass since 1947. It has actually been over 400 years since an Islamic majority army won a war, that is a 400 year losing streak.

The Indians have Kicked Muslim ass, and lets not forget Baghdad Ali taking about how he would drive the US into the sea in the "Mother of all Battles".

So threats of Muslim aggression is very laughable. Wake up to yourself you loser.

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