Why should Australians fear from Musl...

Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

There are 46759 comments on the Scoop story from Dec 23, 2007, titled Why should Australians fear from Muslims?. In it, Scoop reports that:

About 800 people gathered in Camden, NSW and raised their voice against the plan for an Islamic School to be built in the area.

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Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#34167 Nov 17, 2012
aiesha s wrote:
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The affair between Judah and Tamar was not incest really. Considering she was his daughter-in-law, there was no blood relation and their sons would not become inbreds.
It could only be considered on the nose by tribal laws @ the time, perhaps.
Did I mention incest somewhere in relation to the above post? The point I was making was that Judah did the wrong thing by her in not letting her marry his youngest son, but God's plan for the line happened anyway despite Judah's best laid plans
aiesha s

Ryde, Australia

#34168 Nov 17, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
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Did I mention incest somewhere in relation to the above post? The point I was making was that Judah did the wrong thing by her in not letting her marry his youngest son, but God's plan for the line happened anyway despite Judah's best laid plans
No it wasn't U who mentioned incest. I was having a sly dig @ MUQ.
aiesha s

Ryde, Australia

#34169 Nov 17, 2012
Sheilaa wrote:
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I must be missing something have I stated anything different? Not sure what your point is
Genesis 16:11-13
New International Version (NIV)
11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”
13 She gave this name to the Lord who spoke to her:“You are the God who sees me,” for she said,“I have now seen the One who sees me.”

My point with quoting this text was this: just how accurate it was in describing Ishmael. It's all about Abu Araby, and so many of his descendants.

And it was written millennia ago.

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#34170 Nov 17, 2012
We are now able to see which of these is the original and who has copied who. What says you MUG?

The most famous tale about Zuleika is told in a Jewish legend 2nd century:

Zuleika was mocked by other aristocratic Egyptian ladies, her circle of friends, for being infatuated with a Hebrew slave boy. Inviting her friends to her home, Zuleika gave them all oranges and knives to peel them with. While they engaged in this task, Zuleika had Joseph walk through the room. Distracted by his handsomeness, all the ladies cut themselves with the knives, drawing blood. Zuleika then reminded her friends that she had to see Joseph every day. Following this incident, her contemporaries no longer mocked

Koran 9th Century:

And women in the city said, "The wife of al-'Azeez is seeking to seduce her slave boy; he has impassioned her with love. Indeed, we see her [to be] in clear error."

So when she heard of their scheming, she sent for them and prepared for them a banquet and gave each one of them a knife and said [to Joseph], "Come out before them." And when they saw him, they greatly admired him and cut their hands and said, "Perfect is Allah ! This is not a man; this is none but a noble angel."

Sheilaa

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#34171 Nov 17, 2012
aiesha s wrote:
<quoted text>
Genesis 16:11-13
New International Version (NIV)
11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:
“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”
13 She gave this name to the Lord who spoke to her:“You are the God who sees me,” for she said,“I have now seen the One who sees me.”
My point with quoting this text was this: just how accurate it was in describing Ishmael. It's all about Abu Araby, and so many of his descendants.
And it was written millennia ago.
Agreed, and we can see the stark contrast between the promised seed and the one that wasn't promised. Chalk and cheese.Evil and goodness, light and darkness

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#34172 Nov 18, 2012
Convict fixers wrote:
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By your own reasoning, Does that mean you convict thrives will leave this desolate land and return it to is good people the wise aboriginals? you do know you stole it? Oh and murdered those poor people as well. Hahahaha , Difficult question huh, caught you with your thumbs up your arse huh, duh no answer
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The Jew had a war with the people (England)who were controlling a large landmass that everyone called Palestine, and the Jews won.
The rest of the land they could not conquer from the British they bought from the Palestinians.
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With the Aboriginals is slightly different.
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January 1606 A Dutchman Willem Janszoon first landed here and saw the locals indigenous people, The Dutchman looked around and ask the locals in Dutch heb je goud (do you have any Gold) the local man who could not understand Dutch must of shook his head in a negative way and told the guy standing next to him while he was shaking his head in disbelief, what a silly man all dressed up in this heat.
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Janszoon mistook what was said as no we have no gold.
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Than JansZoon asked again Heb je spijzen (do you have spices,)
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Again the Aboriginal talking to the man standing next to him while still shaking his head these men are going to die from the heat if they do not get out of those clothes. Captain JansZoon left, maybe he was related to Jan.
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A few years later:
The British were looking for land not gold or spices, that was the Dutch who were looking for Gold and spices.
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In 1770 The British landed here with guns and drawn sabers the British found a weaker opponent (aboriginals) the British asked the local Indigenous people who lived here.
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Do you own this land, the only answer the British got back was we own nothing, this land you are standing own us.
The British in their wisdom what a stupid people.
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We will show them what ownership mean and that is how come the man in Charge of the first Ship Captain Cook, plunged the flag his boats man was holding and said very loud so that the Indigenous people could hear him.
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I claim all this land in the name of King George the 111
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With out firing 1 bullet The British won the war against the Local Indigenous people.
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Read very carefully Australians never stole anything
It was the British who took advantage of the weaker people who lived here.
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Now come 131 years later the People who lived on this massive land started to call them selves Australian and they felt that they could run this continent better than the British ever could.
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So off they went a few Australian men to see King George 111 for he was the one who owned it all.
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When they arrived in England to make George 111 an offer they were told he was dead,(in those days news traveled slow )they were told but all is not lost for George V owns it now.
That is when these smart men came up with a brilliant plan.
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When they met with Georgie the V , they said look here Georgie we come to make you a peaceful offer with out going to war look what the Yankees did to your great grandfather do not make the same mistake, your Great grandfather made, If you think what the Yankees did was awful to your great grandfather Georgie the 111 we can do the same and worse.
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But no we will make you an offer you can not refuse.
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You give us Australia and we will make you king of Australia we will even put your face on all of our money we will have an image of yours in every public building, and whenever you come for a visit we will carry all the cost.
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As you can see we Australians stole nothing, we inherited all the land.
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If you have any beef take it up with Elizabeth the second.
Get your facts right before you accuse us.
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Than may I ask what the fcuck are you doing in Australia if you feel so strong about stolen land.
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You who are getting the social security cheques we were paying the locals indigenous people we are now giving it to you.
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Shame on you, go back home, we can pay more to the indigenous people.
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34173 Nov 18, 2012
aiesha s wrote:
<quoted text>

You shall name him Ham head,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”
Sounds like casual donkey!
yeah right

Australia

#34174 Nov 18, 2012
aiesha s wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Sheilaa. And yet I remember when this lady was murdered, all the Topix Muslims were crying crocodile tears.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TGS...
Ah well, I guess the most dangerous place for some women is in the home - esp Muslim ones. RIP Shaima Alawadi.
And you wonder how all those apologists are feeling now, eh? Ashamed of themselves? Are sociopaths and congenital liars ashamed of themselves? Are they capable of it?

MURDERED BY HER HUSBAND who then BLAMED THE WEST on his sociopathic criminally violent behaviour.

SOUND FAMILIAR?

You see these muslims doing this time and time again and on a daily basis. All of the abuse they can spew, commit, spread; all of the violence and who's fault is it? Theirs? OH NO.... It's YOURS.

What a hypocritical crew of bleeding morons.
Peter Hall

Australia

#34178 Nov 18, 2012
yeah right wrote:
<quoted text>
And you wonder how all those apologists are feeling now, eh? Ashamed of themselves? Are sociopaths and congenital liars ashamed of themselves? Are they capable of it?
MURDERED BY HER HUSBAND who then BLAMED THE WEST on his sociopathic criminally violent behaviour.
SOUND FAMILIAR?
You see these muslims doing this time and time again and on a daily basis. All of the abuse they can spew, commit, spread; all of the violence and who's fault is it? Theirs? OH NO.... It's YOURS.
What a hypocritical crew of bleeding morons.
Actually her Husband was running a Charity for Palestinian Children, but was actually stealing all the money.

So he was scamming his fellow Muslims as well as murdering his wife.
yeah right

Australia

#34179 Nov 18, 2012
Peter Hall wrote:
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Actually her Husband was running a Charity for Palestinian Children, but was actually stealing all the money.
So he was scamming his fellow Muslims as well as murdering his wife.
Sick bastard. I wonder how many other of them are doing the same thing. And I hope he rots in prison forever and is all the boys' favourite little dolly.

Honestly how do these people even GET IN to countries like this? Don't we have enough of our own troubles?
Peter Hall

Australia

#34180 Nov 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
So as per our Shielaa the Great our prophet "inserted" the story about Zulaikah into Quran from the 2nd century Jewish fable.
Please keep on adding all the books from which our prophet collected these bits and pieces and then put them together into one coherent story which is much superior in every way to the original.
The question is, if our prophet who did not do how to read or how to write, could do it, what can't anyone else do the job in a better way?
What prevents Millions of Arabic speaking Jews and Christians to being a new Version of Story of Joseph and meet the Quranic challenge?
Our poor Shielaa the Great has an excuse, she does not understand a word of Arabic, but what about these millions of Arabic Speaking Jews and Christians, who are following their religion since generations?
OMG, have you not worked it out yet?

The Quran was not written by Mohammed, it was written 200 years later in Babylon. They used the stories of the bandit, warlord and sex pervert Mohammed, and worked in a few badly copied stories from the Jews and the Christians to make him seem Holy.

They needed an easy way to control stupid people using a mixture of fear, ignorance and greed. Hence, the Qu'ran. A made up religion, a favourite of dictators and tyrants for 1400 years.

All to control the populous, collect taxes and recruit warriors to steal more stuff.

Isn't it obvious?
convict fixer

Leichhardt, Australia

#34181 Nov 18, 2012
Dear Convicts, because you are the most ignorant of the lot? Sulking in your primitive minds and completely unaware of mighty historical events that are transpiring in important parts of the world, I am delighted to be the harbinger of truth and honourable news as described by your own kind. Author of the following report is your American Master, so weep on your knees and pray for your beloved Jew lovers because all you crook’s are on the wrong side of history? I am sure this will ignite convicts arses and keep me amused for a day or so, Although I would like to ask in all honesty, Why are you convicts so averse to truth and goodness, is it genetic or just plain convict descendants don’t know any better. LLOL,

'No place left in world for anachronism of wars, Israel’
Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:58PM GMT

By Gordon Duff
•‘Situation in Gaza, very very grave’
•'Israel defence systems not working well'
Israel is partying like they believe this were still 1982. 75,000 young reservists, schooled in apartheid and racism, a generation of young Israeli’s who know little of physical labor, nearly one million “guest workers” do the “heavy lifting now,” are physically and mentally unfit for combat.

There is a difference this time, though the military advances Hamas has made over the past few months, smuggled MANPAD air defense weapons from Libya, rockets with advanced guidance systems and double the range of anything Israel had imagined are not the telling factor.

The issue is political. Even as the words left President Obama’s mouth, his statement of eternal support for Israel and their right of self-defense, he faces Israel as an enemy, perhaps more so than the people of Gaza do.

It is not just Netanyahu’s continual attempts to rig America’s presidential election and his colossal failure. Netanyahu is clueless as to what is heading his way.

Polls during the recent election showed that American Jews care little or nothing about Israel. In fact, Israel is looked on as a nation of “free loaders” and increasingly is seen as “not worth the bother.”

Only so much whining is paid attention to. The photographs of dead Palestinian children are far more common now and the continual flow of stories about Palestinian terrorists the Israel lobby foists on the American public are no longer being accepted.

It has, at least during the past two years, become increasingly distasteful to peddle Islamophobia and racism. Political awareness has grown in America. Romney and Netanyahu made sure the election was very much about Israel.

Israel lost as much as Romney lost.

Then there is the reality “on the ground.” Israel can invade, they have the weapons, they have the manpower. What they do not have is the power of the press behind them.

Oh, the press is still there but few take the “pop culture media” as seriously as they had before. CNN and Fox, the American networks most inclined toward obedience to Tel Aviv, now only preach to a minority of disaffected and broken supporters of a failed political movement in total disarray.

The GOP, the “true red” friends of Israel are now “eating their own young” in a “blame fest” looking for scapegoats to explain why billions of dollars in drug money couldn’t buy an election in a nation long assumed to be filled with the ignorant and “unwashed.”

America turned out to be something different, a nation sick of being lied to. Time changes things. During my childhood, I watched America go from hating those of African descent along with Jews and Catholics to a nation where, at least in states that support Obama, where the vast majority of Americans live, race and religion are no longer the judge of character.

Israel’s “holocaust victimization card” is now worn and stained, one cannot claim “moral high ground,” and murder children, steal human organs, and operate nearly a third of the world’s crime cartels.
convict fixer

Leichhardt, Australia

#34182 Nov 18, 2012
People notice.
Things have changed “on the ground.” Though Morsi, in Egypt, has sworn to keep to the Camp David Accords, the people of Egypt will not allow an invasion of Egypt to go unanswered. If Morsi fails to act, it will seal his doom and bring an end to the accords.

Israel will have an enemy on her southern border.

Israel has depended on Jordan to act as a “hand puppet.” We are now seeing the first moves to eliminate Jordan as an Israeli pawn.

That will put the issue of West Bank settlements in a new light as they are built on land stolen from the people of Jordan. There will be a new government in Jordan, an Islamic government, it will come and it will no longer be able to suppress its two million Palestinians, nearly a quarter of who still live in refugee camps.

The roots of radicalization are there and it may not be in a month or two months but Jordan will fall and the desire to settle issues of “right of return” are less likely to be put to verbal or written negotiation.

Though the Western press has long suppressed the stories, the Saudi monarchy is weakening, Israel’s primary surrogate in the Middle East, though, depending on how the “wind is blowing,” Erdogan of Turkey can no long be seen as weak or complicit in Israel’s acts.

His rhetoric and failure to do anything but join Israel in moves on Syria, joined by the French, joined by Israel and serving as lapdog to his NATO masters, is not unnoticed.

Iran

It is believed by many that an American offer to lift sanctions in trade for stringent nuclear inspections has already reached the preliminary agreement stage between the United States and Iran. Israel has, we are told, indicated it will not oppose such an accord.

They will not because they cannot.

Without the issue of Iran as their “bloody flag,” Israel is likely to be forgotten, their nuclear weapons useful only as an assurance of the impotence of a minor nuclear power. Iran understands this issue well.

The Zionist “Sampson Option” has now become a badge of hypocrisy and has assured the people of Israel that they are watched and targeted by more than one nation that has sworn them “eternal friendship.”

American Enmity

There are now solid and verified reports that a coalition of rogue extremist groups within the American military and veteran community, generously funded by monies from the Gulf Cartel in Mexico, laundered through what Dr. Webster Tarpley describes as the “Mormon Mafia” and Israeli Likudists had planned to overthrow the US government by force after the election.

Sources at the highest levels have indicated that General Petraeus was to be offered the “presidency” after an iconic act of terrorism would cost the lives of top American leaders including but not limited to the President and Vice President.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe General Petraeus knew anything of this and were he to have been aware, would have moved to block such an effort.

However, during a “national emergency,” different decisions for criteria would have applied. Jeb Bush was to have been his Vice President.

Very knowledgeable official sources surmise that a potential fallback could involve, not that General Petraeus is not available, a scenario where a weakened Secretary of State Clinton would assume the presidency, mired in a war with Iran, based on a series of assassinations and terror attacks,“pristine Iranian passports” would fall from the heavens like perfect snowflakes from a grey sky.

Moves Noted

In order to secure Mrs. Clinton in place, Senator’s McCain and Lindsay Graham have worked to block the nomination of Susan Rice over the Benghazi affair.
What is now being noted is that all those who gravitate toward wild conspiracy theories involving the murder of Ambassador Stephens are likely complicit in a plot against the United States.
convict fixer

Leichhardt, Australia

#34183 Nov 18, 2012
Notes on Benghazi

In a recent discussion with a senior counter-intelligence official, I was reminded that the key issues of the Benghazi attack are twofold:
Who gains from the attack? That answer is clear, Romney and Israel.
How convenient is the timing. We strike the same tune again, timing serves Romney and Israel.

Thus, we see Dr. Webster Tarpley’s “Mormon Mafia” at work.
I am also told we see the hands of State Department employees who, without their cooperation, the movements of the ambassador and his party would have been impossible to trace as well as coordinating the overwhelming attack of September 11, 2012, timed to coincide with the Terry Jones/Google/YouTube telethon meant to provide cover through purposefully staged violence.

Behind the telethon, we find the hands of the CATO Institute, their “Tea Party” through “P.J. Media and, as reported by Wayne Madsen, up to 50 senior Pentagon officers. It was not the White House that sent the rescue force to Tripoli, four hours’ drive away while the Benghazi airport was open.

Pentagon officials had circulated a long disproven Al Jazeera story that the Benghazi airport was still unserviceable though four airlines land their daily.

Though we won’t see them testify in front of a congressional enquiry, if the real planners of the Benghazi attack were brought to justice, not those who actually carried out the attack themselves, the majority could be found living and working near Washington D.C. and closely aligned with right wing politics and Zionist causes.

Conclusion

Israel will attack and may invade but they are only digging a hole to bury themselves. What could have been a détente that may have brought generations of peace will more likely be a coalition of nations, not pledged to destroy Israel but destined to move through a world where Israel will no longer have a place.

Israel is a “dinosaur,” an anachronism of wars and conflicts that are fading memories. Israel is not alone, others will fall and Israel may well survive as a “homeland of the Jews” but either as a pariah nation or one willing to embrace a multicultural Christian, Muslim and Jewish heritage.

GD/HGH

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic representative for UN humanitarian and economic development efforts. Gordon Duff has traveled to over 80 nations. His articles are published around the world and translated into a number of languages. He is regularly on TV and radio, a popular and sometimes controversial guest. More Press TV articles by Gordon Duff
Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#34184 Nov 18, 2012
Nothing to fear at all.

(as long as you want to live under SHARIA law.)
Peter Hall

Australia

#34185 Nov 18, 2012
Well Convict Fixer

Firstly, we are not uneducated, we are actually ranked No1 according to the UN Education world rankings 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

We do this in spite of having ignorant morons like you bludging off we highly educated Aussies.

Now how many times have we heard how the Arab world will rise up and wipe Israel off the map?

Now according to the same UN education survey, these Arab nations are not too educated, so we guess they have not learnt the lessons of history.

So, considering how Muslims are currently marking up a larger proportion of our prison population per capita than non Muslims in Australia, are you claiming to be "fixing" your convict Muslim Brothers?

Or are you just another loud mouth Muslim, large on rhetoric, nil on action.
Typical Islam

Kellyville, Australia

#34186 Nov 18, 2012
Peter Hall wrote:
Well Convict Fixer
Now how many times have we heard how the Arab world will rise up and wipe Israel off the map?
The muslims are a thick headed bunch; must be all the goats and camels they hang out with. And the persistent inbreeding and lack of condemnation from their religious scholars and their own doctors.

The west has long ago put on the ear muffs when the arabs start wailing again; calling for Israel's conquest, rape and killing.

Obviously too much quran growing up to have heard of the "The boy who cried wolf."

Nightchalker

Lansing, MI

#34187 Nov 18, 2012
Dee wrote:
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I asked the pro-multicultural posters here whether the UK, America, Australia or any European nation have become stonger and more united countries due to 'diversity'.
Strangely, nobody has responded with a list of countries that have been improved and made stronger and more united because of multiculturalism and diversity.
How odd, one would have thought they would come up with dozens of countries ...
LOL

You will only get yourself called a racist.
convict fixer

Sydney, Australia

#34188 Nov 18, 2012
Peter Hall wrote:
Well Convict Fixer
Firstly, we are not uneducated, we are actually ranked No1 according to the UN Education world rankings 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index
We do this in spite of having ignorant morons like you bludging off we highly educated Aussies.
Now how many times have we heard how the Arab world will rise up and wipe Israel off the map?
Now according to the same UN education survey, these Arab nations are not too educated, so we guess they have not learnt the lessons of history.
So, considering how Muslims are currently marking up a larger proportion of our prison population per capita than non Muslims in Australia, are you claiming to be "fixing" your convict Muslim Brothers?
Or are you just another loud mouth Muslim, large on rhetoric, nil on action.
you sure your boy is not getting his advanced education behind the church Hammond organ,LLOLLLOLLLOL. is the UN looking at those statistics as well or just your shrill barking LLOL,

you still haven't answered why you don't like the truth. oh by the way I have been to one of your so called premium universities, LLOL, nothing to write home about, probably OK for china-man, that's about it, LLOL
NO to 3rd world stupidity

Australia

#34189 Nov 18, 2012
convict fixer wrote:
<quoted text>
you sure your boy is not getting his advanced education behind the church Hammond organ,LLOLLLOLLLOL. is the UN looking at those statistics as well or just your shrill barking LLOL,
you still haven't answered why you don't like the truth. oh by the way I have been to one of your so called premium universities, LLOL, nothing to write home about, probably OK for china-man, that's about it, LLOL
Sure you have been to one of our Universities, probably to try and steal purses from students.

You seem obsessed with under age sex don't you? OMG I forgot you are a Muslim, like good old Mohammed.

I bet you get all turned on by the thought of a young boy, just like Mohammed

"The Prophet told an Ansar,'Choose one of your slave boys to serve me in my expedition to Khaybar.' So, he chose me, even though I was just nearing puberty. I served Muhammad when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly,'Allah! I seek refuge with you from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men.'"
Bukhari:V4B52N143

Are you dreaming of your black eyed pearl faced boys in heaven like your Homo Mohammed promised you?

Did you Mullah give you a good going over or was it your dad n uncles?

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