Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

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rightyoh mookie

Melbourne, Australia

#32791 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
There might be or there might be any problem between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the question is that it is an internal problem of Muslims and you do not have any business to be concerned one way or the other in it.
"There might be of there might be" pretty much says it all mookie.

And your 'internal problems of muslims' is everyone's business when your 'might or might be' enemies want to nuke your arse and you want U.S. protection from it.

Don't ever tell me what my concerns are mookie baby. You stick your big fat nose into my f*cking concerns all day long and as long as you keep doing it you're going to get what's coming to you.
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#32792 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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There might be or there might be any problem between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the question is that it is an internal problem of Muslims and you do not have any business to be concerned one way or the other in it.
Hey RM, tell us more about this Sunni, Shea problem that the Muslims are having..

Muslims can't coexist amongst themselves let alone with western countries.

Tell us RM, we want to see how stupid these Muslims are..
rightyoh mookie

Melbourne, Australia

#32793 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.Saudi Arabia and Iran have been co-existing for many centuries and there is no possibility that they or one of them would vanish from the earth.
Don't count on it. Your 'brothers' in Iran, as you well know, are as dangerous a pack of lunatics as you are.

There is every possibility that 'they or one of them'(sic)(meaning YOU) will in fact vanish from the earth. You're so frightened that it will be YOU that you've even committed to an alliance with the U.S., which you clearly hate, because according to YOU it is run by JEWS.

So mookie wookie is in a political alliance with JEWS because according to you, JEWS run the U.S. and somehow this means that none of this is anyone else's concern?

How stupid are you, exactly?

Never mind answering that - it's been aptly and amply demonstrated over and over on this thread.

You must hate your own guts boy.
Leaping Lenny

Australia

#32794 Oct 14, 2012
If the muslim world acted like civilized humans beings good things would follow, for every action has a reaction.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/

Its not just one muslim state, its all of them consumed with greed.

Having a violent religion as the basis of a state the result is violence.
rightyoh mookie

Melbourne, Australia

#32795 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.What we hate is that you people trying to exploit the situation and creating fear and mistrust between the two leaders and selling arms and ammunition to both of them…. In case of any fights or struggle both Saudi Arabia and Iran would be the loser.
The gainers would only be you people!!
And this is truth and no TAQIYYA, there is nothing like TAQAIYYA in Islam.
"...you people"? You mean the JEWS that you claim run the world and that you are allied with in order to provide protection from Iran?

"Nothing like Taqiyya in Islam" is taqiyya in its basest form.
Jake Bradock

Capalaba, Australia

#32796 Oct 14, 2012
MUQ wrote:
The consequences of a strike wouldn't be felt for at least a few weeks—the nightmare scenario is that an oil shock would result in a quadrupling of oil prices, plunging the world into a new Great Depression. Enough time for Obama to sail back into office as a tough foreign-policy president. Given Obama's congenital caution and sobriety, he seems unlikely to follow such a course. But it should not be ruled out. The neocons may be closer to helping bring about an assault on Iran than even they realize.
They've already captured Romney. But they may also be on the verge of capturing Obama. Their sustained campaign of pressure, in other words, may be more effective than anyone has acknowledged.
For the fact is that Obama already has amply demonstrated his ruthlessness when it comes to confronting America's adversaries. If he were able to carry out regime change in Tehran, he might even start referring to himself as the new Decider.
This article was originally published at The National Interest ©2010 The National Interest.
Hmmmm the consequences might be very high fuel prices ? So! enjoying cheaper fuel for a few years then faceing an nuke threat from an unstable regeime like Irans would the least of our worries in the west.

What would we say to future generations when trying to explain why we allowed iran a nuke capability ? we had a few years of cheaper fuel ?
I`d rather pay 10 bucks a liter than allow them nukes.
aiesha s

Sydney, Australia

#32797 Oct 14, 2012
TeenActivist wrote:
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Hey rightyo mookie:
What was the name of your buddy that was a paedophile rapist Christian brother that got jailed for 14 years in Australia?
Who Cares?
aiesha s

Sydney, Australia

#32798 Oct 14, 2012
Jake Bradock wrote:
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Hmmmm the consequences might be very high fuel prices ? So! enjoying cheaper fuel for a few years then faceing an nuke threat from an unstable regeime like Irans would the least of our worries in the west.
What would we say to future generations when trying to explain why we allowed iran a nuke capability ? we had a few years of cheaper fuel ?
I`d rather pay 10 bucks a liter than allow them nukes.
Very true, Jake. Those Ayatollahs are stark raving loonies.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#32799 Oct 14, 2012
TeenActivist wrote:
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Hey rightyo mookie:
What was the name of your buddy that was a paedophile rapist Christian brother that got jailed for 14 years in Australia?
There were photos from this never released, showing at least one of the poor guys being stripped while being carried away to be burned alive.

Stripped naked and burnt alive.
Nevill

Australia

#32800 Oct 14, 2012
The Little Things wrote:
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There were photos from this never released, showing at least one of the poor guys being stripped while being carried away to be burned alive.
Stripped naked and burnt alive.
Thats the life ey?
Frantelle

Australia

#32801 Oct 14, 2012
TeenActivist wrote:
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Hey rightyo mookie:
What was the name of your buddy that was a paedophile rapist Christian brother that got jailed for 14 years in Australia?
Mohammad was his name,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_paci...

“He doesn’t have a father, so there is no one to stop this.”

What's your point blacee, we jail them in safe decent Australia, whereas in the middle east ..... NOTHING HAPPENS except the raping goes on Night after Night....... you clown
aiesha s

Sydney, Australia

#32802 Oct 14, 2012
The Little Things wrote:
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There were photos from this never released, showing at least one of the poor guys being stripped while being carried away to be burned alive.
Stripped naked and burnt alive.
SHOCKING! Do you have any news links?
Leaping Lenny

Australia

#32803 Oct 15, 2012
They demanded veils for women, beards for men and a ban on music and television. They allowed boys' schools to operate but closed those for girls.

But young Malala defied the Taliban edict, demanding an education.

For that, she got a bullet to the head -- and the attention of much of the world.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/15/world/asia/...

You mussa's are so backward, even a 14 year old can see it, but you lot on this site can't.
I think you should concentrate less on cutting off the genitals of children and protests about this and that and educate the young on peace and education.

Oh !! Dear..... More educated people, that means, freedom of thought. That will mean more educated people leaving that violent religion of yours.

NO No no that will not do, we will lose all the POWER AND MONEY.
Scumbags Holier Than Thou

Australia

#32804 Oct 15, 2012
Remember that unkempt disheveled fool that kept taking the moral high ground for the muslim world a few weeks ago.
http://www.7daysindubai.com/Runaway-maid-save...
“They beat me up daily and one of the defendants raped me.”
http://www.7daysindubai.com/Men-accused-rapin...
The men are charged with rape as the girl was under the age of consent.
http://www.7daysindubai.com/Manakish-home-del...
He said in court records that he became aroused.

Don't give us that high and mighty moral shite, because we know what liars you are.
Abraham

Sydney, Australia

#32805 Oct 15, 2012
MUQ wrote:
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Abe: No problem with the delay. I understand perfectly. In the lapse I've been enjoying my children's progress in science and critical thinking whilst gazing at my beauteous wife's hair and face as she emerges from swimming in the sparking blue sea.
In response to your first statement - I am beginning to understand the Christian phrase "As on Earth, so it is in Heaven"!!!! Who would have
thought that I would begin to understand the
people I believed were infidels only worthy of
death or conversion! Truly, I am amazed.
I suppose it is no surprise that the Christians
would be desperate enough to want to move to
the Mormon Quarter just to get away from the
muslims. Have you thought about checking to
see who is funding the mormons' campaign,
which I'm sure is intended to make their quarter
appear more attractive than any given
alternative? I suggest this as it is an old muslim
technique with which I am familiar.
I will do some research on the use of taqiyya to
further my interests here as a 'practicing non
practicing' atheist. Nothing but NOTHING is worth
going back to a hairy god-awful (pardon the
term) wahabist's hell as I'm sure you well know.
When you have time please let me know how
Tariq (if you have that information available) and
Buddha are faring and again my regards to you
from me and the family.
Well done my Son, religion is a banquet enjoy what you need of it and leave the rest to others.
TAQIYYA is the device of duplicity in self interest also, after god is within your soul isn't it.
Sheik Abdullah is probably your role model as jack philbly he created Saudi for aramco and the emir robber king to deny the Hashemites (something Mo was not happy about but then Allah knows Akbhar as they say) sheik jack slave of Allah lived as a king and Muslim as well as
enjoying the pleasures of the greatest imperialist conquest for the least effort ever known..
Tariq Ali - well he hasn't arrived yet, he is still among you but serves as an example of the agnostic who can still repent. Basically an Indian trapped as a musselman who by his silence and omission wants to be a Semite child of Zion if only they would allow him..
Buddha is not happy. We put him in the nihilist section but he likes to want and believe in everything not just nothing only.
Mormon mmm they are not of earth you know but from another universive so the ones here are only the original white skinned american ones.
We all miss earthly pleasures you know, there
are no animals or trees or grass. No young women in short Tight skirts and high heels dancing to the ganman style or fast cars or ocean swells or desert winds. No pokies, no cigarettes (man do we miss that) no booze and no good solid greasy food.
Nope it's all bearded men and women, no shavers either... floating around, boriinggzzz.
Enjoy earth as you would heaven my son.
Follow jack the sheik philby or other role models that polish the TAQIYYA like the black stone to reveal not what is in the object but is in you.
God willing and blessed be thou by thee, Abe
Bekko

Australia

#32807 Oct 15, 2012
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-...

Not seen 'anit-Islam' film

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breakin...

'vulnerable' to extremists

WHAT,

Pathetic muslims
Xingo

Australia

#32808 Oct 15, 2012
Oh Hear Ye !! Oh Hear Ye
Who ever drinks The Sacred Camel Urine enters paradise.
&fe ature=related

Ok Right, This will be drank in a orderly fashion, No Pushing, Shoving, Heaving ,Raping , Slapping , Yelling ,Screaming ,Bad Breath, Arousal etc etc
1st MUQ
2nd KakaSlumpig
3rd Beady
4th TeenActivist
5th Rothstein
6th BaboonHunter
7th Aamir
8th Smeliroger
9th Rocksolid
10th Balacker Cloaca
Serpent

Calgary, Canada

#32809 Oct 15, 2012
Did Muhammad Exist?- Robert Spencer lays out his argument..

Letter to a Young Muslim

Hawthorn, Australia

#32810 Oct 15, 2012
April 25, 2002

Letter to a Young Muslim
by Tariq Ali

Dear friend

Remember when you approached me after the big antiwar meeting in November 2001 (I think it was Glasgow) and asked whether I was a believer? I have not forgotten the shock you registered when I replied "no", or the comment of your friend ("our parents warned us against you"), or the angry questions which the pair of you then began to hurl at me like darts. All of that made me think, and this is my reply for you and all the others like you who asked similar questions elsewhere in Europe and North America.

When we spoke, I told you that my criticism of religion and those who use it for political ends was not a case of being diplomatic in public. Exploiters and manipulators have always used religion self-righteously to further their own selfish ends. It’s true that this is not the whole story. There are, of course, deeply sincere people of religion in different parts of the world who genuinely fight on the side of the poor, but they are usually in conflict with organised religion themselves.

The Catholic Church victimised worker or peasant priests who organised against oppression. The Iranian ayatollahs dealt severely with Muslims who preached in favour of a social radicalism. If I genuinely believed that this radical Islam was the way forward for humanity, I would not hesitate to say so in public, whatever the consequences. I know that many of your friends love chanting the name "Osama" and I know that they cheered on September 11, 2001. They were not alone. It happened all over the world, but had nothing to do with religion. I know of Argentine students who walked out when a teacher criticised Osama. I know a Russian teenager who emailed a one-word message – "Congratulations" – to his Russian friends whose parents had settled outside New York, and they replied: "Thanks. It was great." We talked, I remember, of the Greek crowds at football matches who refused to mourn for the two minutes the government had imposed and instead broke the silence with anti-American chants.

But none of this justifies what took place. What lies behind the vicarious pleasure is not a feeling of strength, but a terrible weakness. The people of Indo-China suffered more than any Muslim country at the hands of the US government. They were bombed for 15 whole years and lost millions of their people. Did they even think of bombing America? Nor did the Cubans or the Chileans or the Brazilians. The last two fought against the US-imposed military regimes at home and finally triumphed.

Today, people feel powerless. And so when America is hit they celebrate. They don’t ask what such an act will achieve, what its consequences will be and who will benefit. Their response, like the event itself, is purely symbolic.

I think that Osama and his group have reached a political dead-end. It was a grand spectacle, but nothing more. The US, in responding with a war, has enhanced the importance of the action, but I doubt if even that will rescue it from obscurity in the future. It will be a footnote in the history of this century. In political, economic or military terms it was barely a pinprick.

What do the Islamists offer? A route to a past which, mercifully for the people of the seventh century, never existed. If the "Emirate of Afghanistan" is the model for what they want to impose on the world then the bulk of Muslims would rise up in arms against them. Don’t imagine that either Osama or Mullah Omar represent the future of Islam. It would be a major disaster for the culture we both share if that turned out to be the case. Would you want to live under those conditions? Would you tolerate your sister, your mother or the woman you love being hidden from public view and only allowed out shrouded like a corpse?
(cont)
Letter to a Young Muslim

Hawthorn, Australia

#32811 Oct 15, 2012
I want to be honest with you. I opposed this latest Afghan war. I do not accept the right of big powers to change governments as and when it affects their interests. But I did not shed any tears for the Taliban as they shaved their beards and ran back home. This does not mean that those who have been captured should be treated like animals or denied their elementary rights according to the Geneva convention, but as I’ve argued elsewhere, the fundamentalism of the American Empire has no equal today. They can disregard all conventions and laws at will. The reason they are openly mistreating prisoners they captured after waging an illegal war in Afghanistan is to assert their power before the world – hence they humiliate Cuba by doing their dirty work on its soil – and warn others who attempt to twist the lion’s tail that the punishment will be severe.

I remember how, during the cold war, the CIA and its indigenous recruits tortured political prisoners and raped them in many parts of Latin America. During the Vietnam war the US violated most of the Geneva conventions. They tortured and executed prisoners, raped women, threw prisoners out of helicopters to die on the ground or drown in the sea, and all this, of course, in the name of freedom.

Because many people in the west believe the nonsense about "humanitarian interventions", they are shocked by these acts, but this is relatively mild compared with the crimes committed in the last century by the Empire. I’ve met many of our people in different parts of the world since September 11. One question is always repeated: "Do you think we Muslims are clever enough to have done this?" I always answer "Yes". Then I ask who they think is responsible, and the answer is invariably "Israel". Why? "To discredit us and make the Americans attack our countries." I gently expose their wishful illusions, but the conversation saddens me. Why are so many Muslims sunk in this torpor? Why do they wallow in so much self-pity? Why is their sky always overcast? Why is it always someone else who is to blame?

Sometimes when we talk I get the impression that there is not a single Muslim country of which they can feel really proud. Those who have migrated from South Asia are much better treated in Britain than in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf States. It is here that something has to happen. The Arab world is desperate for a change. Over the years, in every discussion with Iraqis, Syrians, Saudis, Egyptians, Jordanians and Palestinians, the same questions are raised, the same problems recur. We are suffocating. Why can’t we breathe? Everything seems static: our economy, our politics, our intellectuals and, most of all, our religion.

Palestine suffers every day. The west does nothing. Our governments are dead. Our politicians are corrupt. Our people are ignored. Is it surprising that some are responsive to the Islamists? Who else offers anything these days? The US? It doesn’t even want democracy, not even in little Qatar, and for a very simple reason. If we elected our own governments they might demand that the US close down its bases. Would it? They already resent al-Jazeera television because it has different priorities from them. It was fine when al-Jazeera attacked corruption within the Arab elite. Thomas Friedman even devoted a whole column to praise of al-Jazeera in the New York Times. He saw it as a sign of democracy coming to the Arab world. No longer. Because democracy means the right to think differently, and al-Jazeera showed pictures of the Afghan war that were not shown on the US networks, so Bush and Blair put pressure on Qatar to stop unfriendly broadcasts.
(cont)

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