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American from California arrested on terrorism charges appears in court

There are 19 comments on the Examiner.com story from Oct 22, 2013, titled American from California arrested on terrorism charges appears in court. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

A California man was arrested at a bus stop on his way to Mexico on Friday and charged with attempting to provide material support to al Qaeda and making a false statement on a passport application, the FBI said.

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Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#1 Oct 22, 2013
"FBI agents say Sinh Vinh Ngo Nguyen of Garden Grove, California had plane tickets to fly from Mexico City to Pakistan, his final destination. The undercover FBI agent escorted him to the bus and told him they would be meeting "his sheik" in Peshawar, the prosecutor said on Monday."

I think that's a Vietnamese name, see? Islam is a religion and both Muslims and Islamists can be of any ethnicity.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#2 Oct 22, 2013
Nguyen is a very dignified name, shared by the greatest General of the 20th Century (Vo Nguyen Giap), that has just past.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5_Nguy%C3%...

I think that Muslims should return to an ancient tradition in which they were more akin to science and modernity... I think that Iran and Malaysia are not doing so bad regarding that.

I think is strange to see a Vietnamese Muslim. It will not be surprising to find a Filipino, since they have an ancient Muslim tradition there, but not in Vietnam.
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#3 Oct 22, 2013
But why are you interested in the case of this Asian-American pseudo-terrorist, Eduardo?

Is it to remark that Mexicans have very rarely been accused of Terrorism?

To me is indiferent if 100% of "Americans" believe, convinced by their liar media we Mexicans are terrorist (and many "Americans" actually do).

And they feel free to spy us as we were an enemy nation.

What we should do, is to do much bigger exercises with live ammunition in the northern deserts avery year. And immitate Brasil in what they have done in response to that spying.

What they think about us is less important, that what we do to keep us safe and sound.
Eduardo

Durango, Mexico

#4 Oct 22, 2013
Sirius wrote:
But why are you interested in the case of this Asian-American pseudo-terrorist, Eduardo?
Is it to remark that Mexicans have very rarely been accused of Terrorism?
To me is indiferent if 100% of "Americans" believe, convinced by their liar media we Mexicans are terrorist (and many "Americans" actually do).
And they feel free to spy us as we were an enemy nation.
What we should do, is to do much bigger exercises with live ammunition in the northern deserts avery year. And immitate Brasil in what they have done in response to that spying.
What they think about us is less important, that what we do to keep us safe and sound.
I'll tell you the truth, I posted because I knew some American would just read the headline that the terrorist was from California and trying to enter Mexico and post that the "terrorist wannabe" was a Mexican illegal without even reading the article.
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#5 Oct 22, 2013
Eduardo wrote:
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I'll tell you the truth, I posted because I knew some American would just read the headline that the terrorist was from California and trying to enter Mexico and post that the "terrorist wannabe" was a Mexican illegal without even reading the article.
Yes, but as I told you I think that what they say is unimportant,. What we do to defend us from that kind of US terrorists is all that matters.
Mesa Program

Long Beach, CA

#7 Nov 1, 2013
Sirius wrote:
Nguyen is a very dignified name, shared by the greatest General of the 20th Century (Vo Nguyen Giap), that has just past.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5_Nguy%C3%...
I think that Muslims should return to an ancient tradition in which they were more akin to science and modernity... I think that Iran and Malaysia are not doing so bad regarding that.
I think is strange to see a Vietnamese Muslim. It will not be surprising to find a Filipino, since they have an ancient Muslim tradition there, but not in Vietnam.
Mexicans and Muslims are inferior because of history. Read the history books on these two types of people and you will understand the truth.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#9 Nov 2, 2013
GITMO.
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#10 Nov 2, 2013
Mesa Program wrote:
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Mexicans and Muslims are inferior because of history. Read the history books on these two types of people and you will understand the truth.
Inferior to whom?

Look... Islam is a religion that began in the year 700 or so. In 1300 years they have more history and civilization that your gringo pea brain saturated with fat and toxic substances will be able to understand. So don't even try.

Regarding Mexicans.... well, it took us 5000 years to bring korn to its current state.

I really like some American things. But we have to be aware most of the things it creates are pretty... ephimeral.
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#11 Nov 2, 2013
Eduardo wrote:
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I'll tell you the truth, I posted because I knew some American would just read the headline that the terrorist was from California and trying to enter Mexico and post that the "terrorist wannabe" was a Mexican illegal without even reading the article.
Visual effects, just today and here in topix... all the evening, the face of a "Mexican" and the word "gunman" in theupper left corner of the site. Only it was the face of the Latino officer murdered by a gringo with a face of Bilbo Baggings, the actual perpetrator of a shooting today in the Los Angeles airport LAX, today.

But as you said, they blame Mexicans for what a couple of crazy Chechen brothers did.

Regards
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#12 Nov 2, 2013
I mean, no surprises. They actually live with the implicit idea than half of the terrorist attacks in the USA come from 'Mexicans'.

I think that in a chapter of South Park many many years ago they showed Saddam Hussein dressed as a charro. OK... are just 'jokes'.... but it is suposedly funny, because those are things that actually happening in the confused mind of many Americans that cannot find Europe or Africa on a map.
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#14 Nov 3, 2013
Mesa Program wrote:
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Mexicans and Muslims are inferior because of history. Read the history books on these two types of people and you will understand the truth.
Try to break your habits and explain us our Mexican inferiority.

Certaily in this issue, I think that is fair to remember the Mexican saying "se junto el hambre con las ganas de comer"... to your trend of want to see everybody else as inferior with the inferiority complex of many ignorant Mexicans... no suprise you say something like almost as a truism.

I am sure that if you actually see how well the Mexican middle classes do live, how oblivious to your hate they live, you will be even more unhappy, and probably will hate us even more.

To your consolation: yes, they are many ignorant Mexicans that share your views. Probably some of these live next to you.

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I'll tell you what I think:

First, the more I know about other countries and other peoples, the more I am convinced that we Mexicans possess a very specific and rare set of traits that make us unique and worthy of self respect.

But even if our defects are great my answer continues to be 'Viva Mexico!!,.... firstly, because this is the only path to goodness and rightfulness that i know. And seconly, at the very least, frstrates people like you.
sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#16 Nov 3, 2013
Zanonii wrote:
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People here in the United States don't see that part of Mexico. It's not in the US's interest to portray Mexico in a good way, at least not in terms of having a middle or elite class.
The typical Gringo is completely oblivious to that.
The majority of Mexicans who have been immigrating into the US have been the poor and uneducated. So for the most part, this is how many Gringos see Mexicans, poor and uneducated.
Gringos are unaware that Mexico does have a middle-class and an elite class. But it's not these classes who immigrate to the US, at least not in significant numbers. So Gringos are unaware of Mexico's the wealthy and educated.
If they see poor Mexicans there is partly our fault. But this aspect is commented enough and of course not only in this forum.
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The second part - not showing the purposedly the modern part of Mexico is what could be potentialy interesting.... I mean, iteresting to us, Mexicans.

I think it is unconfortable to them to change their mental patterns. I guess it is more easy for the average gringo to think of Mexico as they present it in their chilhood... as a superbackward country with dirt roads where people in traditional garb moves arround riding donkeys. And, if you live in Kansas or something... do you really need something else?

we Mexicans are both traditional and changing. Some of our mental patterns remain through decades and centuries. I dont know if you or Eduardo eventually get angry to see that for gringos like @mesa_program we are the beaners/greaser of always..I don't... and if we do, is because we do not make our homework in reviewing history... which for a Mexican is a mortal sin.

But at least, with a couple of slaps on the face a Mexican could be waken up and regain its knowledge... while most gringos are beyond help.... no matter how much they think they read about History or reenacting what they think were historical events. Regarding History we have something they lack: Intellectual honesty.

Regards
Mesa Program

Long Beach, CA

#17 Nov 3, 2013
Listen Sirius,

Zanoni is a really hard person to speak coherently with.

I know that you are educated and lover your country.

Just know that not all people are bad.

I congratulate Sirius on his dialogue and historical correctness.
Unregistered Troll

Oakland, CA

#19 Nov 3, 2013
Mesa Program wrote:
Listen Sirius,
Zanoni is a really hard person to speak coherently with...
Maybe it's because Zanonii doesn't sugar-coat the truth.
Q-Branch

Long Beach, CA

#20 Nov 16, 2013
sirius wrote:
<quoted text>
Try to break your habits and explain us our Mexican inferiority.
Certaily in this issue, I think that is fair to remember the Mexican saying "se junto el hambre con las ganas de comer"... to your trend of want to see everybody else as inferior with the inferiority complex of many ignorant Mexicans... no suprise you say something like almost as a truism.
I am sure that if you actually see how well the Mexican middle classes do live, how oblivious to your hate they live, you will be even more unhappy, and probably will hate us even more.
To your consolation: yes, they are many ignorant Mexicans that share your views. Probably some of these live next to you.
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I'll tell you what I think:
First, the more I know about other countries and other peoples, the more I am convinced that we Mexicans possess a very specific and rare set of traits that make us unique and worthy of self respect.
But even if our defects are great my answer continues to be 'Viva Mexico!!,.... firstly, because this is the only path to goodness and rightfulness that i know. And seconly, at the very least, frstrates people like you.
You say viva mexico because you are proud of your country and because you don't know any better. You have not lived in other non-latin countries. Try it sometime. That is where you learn how other races live.
Q-Branch

Long Beach, CA

#21 Nov 16, 2013
Zanonii wrote:
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I agree with you on that. I also think that the main reason they focus on us in negative ways is because they're really mad that Latinos/Hispanics are already the second largest ethnic group in the US, second only to the Gringos. We already passed blacks as the largest minority in the nation. In California, we're the majority.
You sound so proud of your race. You may have a hard time to catch up with the Chinese. They overpopulate everyone else. You are racist towards the Chinese. Where are your Chinese friends at?
Sirius

Querétaro, Mexico

#24 Nov 16, 2013
Q-Branch wrote:
<quoted text>
You say viva mexico because you are proud of your country and because you don't know any better. You have not lived in other non-latin countries. Try it sometime. That is where you learn how other races live.
I lived in Eastern Europe, in places where I was the only dark haired person in several miles around.

I lived in the USA for a few months (mostly in Chicago and Phoenix).

I have visited Belize (a Central American country), where people are of other races and speak English (officially).

Why do you claim which such confidence that I have never seen any other thing than "Latino countries"?.

This asserting "facts" that you really don't know and couldn't know, portray you like and idiot - like anything else that you write in this forum.

What is more: That a sorry excuse of a human, like you, dedicate its time to insult us, maybe speaks better of us that anything I could say.

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Short Bitch Ranger

Oakland, CA

#29 Nov 17, 2013
Sirius wrote:
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I lived in Eastern Europe, in places where I was the only dark haired person in several miles around.
I lived in the USA for a few months (mostly in Chicago and Phoenix).
I have visited Belize (a Central American country), where people are of other races and speak English (officially).
Why do you claim which such confidence that I have never seen any other thing than "Latino countries"?.
This asserting "facts" that you really don't know and couldn't know, portray you like and idiot - like anything else that you write in this forum.
What is more: That a sorry excuse of a human, like you, dedicate its time to insult us, maybe speaks better of us that anything I could say.
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Don't waste your time with the Q-bitch. It's not worth your time.
Short Bitch Ranger

Oakland, CA

#30 Nov 17, 2013
sirius wrote:
<quoted text>
Try to break your habits and explain us our Mexican inferiority.
Certaily in this issue, I think that is fair to remember the Mexican saying "se junto el hambre con las ganas de comer"... to your trend of want to see everybody else as inferior with the inferiority complex of many ignorant Mexicans... no suprise you say something like almost as a truism.
I am sure that if you actually see how well the Mexican middle classes do live, how oblivious to your hate they live, you will be even more unhappy, and probably will hate us even more.
To your consolation: yes, they are many ignorant Mexicans that share your views. Probably some of these live next to you.
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I'll tell you what I think:
First, the more I know about other countries and other peoples, the more I am convinced that we Mexicans possess a very specific and rare set of traits that make us unique and worthy of self respect.
But even if our defects are great my answer continues to be 'Viva Mexico!!,.... firstly, because this is the only path to goodness and rightfulness that i know. And seconly, at the very least, frstrates people like you.
Do we really know who Mesa_Program is? Most likely no. As far as I'm concerned it's just a troll.

Not registered. Nationality/Race unknown. Don't waste too much time explaining anything to it.

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