Syria is still not our fight

Syria is still not our fight

There are 43 comments on the The Times story from May 5, 2013, titled Syria is still not our fight. In it, The Times reports that:

President Obama is right to resist the mounting pressure for military intervention in Syria.

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william

Worcester, UK

#1 May 5, 2013
keep this piece of theatre's scene going on,USA is in the deep end of the fight in Syria.
How pretentious and devious the play can get,play ignoramus while supporting Israel with the act of intimidation of Syrians,like they haven't suffered enough internally,they want to finish them of with the nod and wink from Obama,while keeping his black face as innocent as ever.
Aztec

Gig Harbor, WA

#2 May 5, 2013
william wrote:
keep this piece of theatre's scene going on,USA is in the deep end of the fight in Syria.
How pretentious and devious the play can get,play ignoramus while supporting Israel with the act of intimidation of Syrians,like they haven't suffered enough internally,they want to finish them of with the nod and wink from Obama,while keeping his black face as innocent as ever.
This US police of supporting Zionist,despite its aggressions, and creating conflicts all around the world and deny any envolment is known for everyone. But to whom is directed this deny?
Falcon

UK

#3 May 5, 2013
Let's be a little creative this time, what if this was all one big conspiracy theory, hypothetically speaking. How bout if America had formed new alliances with other Arab countries under the table, and were getting Israel caught up in a very deep and intense conflict with Russia, Iran, and Syria.. The objective would be to have Israel commit themselves to the point where they are involved in a war with multiple fronts against these nations, its at this moment that america pulls out and demonizes the state of Israel and slaps crippling embargos on them... Worst case scenario, by the way this is not something I want.. Pure embellishment.. Hey, imagine if Israel came under the wing of Russia or China...
Christian

Syria

#4 May 5, 2013
Are you keen to help the islamist radicals ??
William

Worcester, UK

#5 May 5, 2013
Falcon wrote
Let's be a little creative this time, what if this was all one big conspiracy theory, hypothetically speaking. How bout if America had formed new alliances with other Arab countries under the table, and were getting Israel caught up in a very deep and intense conflict with Russia, Iran, and Syria.. The objective would be to have Israel commit themselves to the point where they are involved in a war with multiple fronts against these nations, its at this moment that america pulls out and demonizes the state of Israel and slaps crippling embargos on them... Worst case scenario, by the way this is not something I want.. Pure embellishment.. Hey, imagine if Israel came under the wing of Russia or China...

Everything is possible,every country should follow its interest,especially when the economy is in recession,that scenario would be fun to watch,you certainly have a very creative mind,you are waiting your time on this blog.
Falcon

UK

#6 May 5, 2013
William wrote:
Falcon wrote
Let's be a little creative this time, what if this was all one big conspiracy theory, hypothetically speaking. How bout if America had formed new alliances with other Arab countries under the table, and were getting Israel caught up in a very deep and intense conflict with Russia, Iran, and Syria.. The objective would be to have Israel commit themselves to the point where they are involved in a war with multiple fronts against these nations, its at this moment that america pulls out and demonizes the state of Israel and slaps crippling embargos on them... Worst case scenario, by the way this is not something I want.. Pure embellishment.. Hey, imagine if Israel came under the wing of Russia or China...
Everything is possible,every country should follow its interest,especially when the economy is in recession,that scenario would be fun to watch,you certainly have a very creative mind,you are waiting your time on this blog.
If you mean "waiting your time" by the fact that I spend too much time here, your probably right.. That's why my comments are starting to turn into fictional novels, but I guess anyone who holds a contrary opinion is viewed as writing fiction over here, just look at all the scraps. Its like a war in its self.. Ps you can just click on reply instead of copying and pasting what the other person posted, unless you prefer it this way....

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#7 May 5, 2013
A point to note here from a tactical perspective unlike Libya Syria is a different story US and its allies cant just go in take out Assad form a democracy and confiscate chemical weapons because there r other countries involved in the conflict who will not allow such intervention. There has been talk of surgical strikes but the trouble is that the intel of the location of weapons is not always reliable and not to mention that the Syrian regime has a very robust air defense system which cannot be destroyed without civilian casualties and even if it were to be destroyed that wud only be the first step including sending ground forces and considering they r no safe zones they will have to secure them first and then move on. So it seems like a pretty complicated situation.
William

Worcester, UK

#8 May 5, 2013
Falcon said
If you mean "waiting your time" by the fact that I spend too much time here, your probably right.. That's why my comments are starting to turn into fictional novels, but I guess anyone who holds a contrary opinion is viewed as writing fiction over here, just look at all the scraps. Its like a war in its self.. Ps you can just click on reply instead of copying and pasting what the other person posted, unless you prefer it this way....

I always use reply but the first line has to be personalised.
Back to Syria,do you hate Israel as much as you wish the best for Syrians?
Someone said that Diplomacy is when you hold 2 opposite ideas while being able to deliver an objective speech without being exposed,it is lying elegantly.
Falcon

UK

#9 May 5, 2013
Hitty wrote:
A point to note here from a tactical perspective unlike Libya Syria is a different story US and its allies cant just go in take out Assad form a democracy and confiscate chemical weapons because there r other countries involved in the conflict who will not allow such intervention. There has been talk of surgical strikes but the trouble is that the intel of the location of weapons is not always reliable and not to mention that the Syrian regime has a very robust air defense system which cannot be destroyed without civilian casualties and even if it were to be destroyed that wud only be the first step including sending ground forces and considering they r no safe zones they will have to secure them first and then move on. So it seems like a pretty complicated situation.
Yes its layered with complications, its not like Iraq and Afghanistan where the US just marched in backed by an angry and brainwashed society... Its not only a war against real military powers, but also convincing their own citizens who are more aware and have felt the sting of their government's greed through the recession and economic perils.. If Russia and Iran are determined to fight to the bitter end, then there's no point to this conflict... It would be better to clean out these filthy FSA terrorists and resume as things were...
William

Worcester, UK

#10 May 5, 2013
Hitty wrote
A point to note here from a tactical perspective unlike Libya Syria is a different story US and its allies cant just go in take out Assad form a democracy and confiscate chemical weapons because there r other countries involved in the conflict who will not allow such intervention. There has been talk of surgical strikes but the trouble is that the intel of the location of weapons is not always reliable and not to mention that the Syrian regime has a very robust air defense system which cannot be destroyed without civilian casualties and even if it were to be destroyed that wud only be the first step including sending ground forces and considering they r no safe zones they will have to secure them first and then move on. So it seems like a pretty complicated situation.

If I was Syrian,I wouldn't let any one interfere in my country,and looking at the complexity of geopolitics combined with the deviousness of Israel, the greed of the west and corruptin of Turkey plus the stupidity of the GCC,who would blame Assad for fighting back like hell.
Red East

Guam

#11 May 5, 2013
Hitty wrote:
A point to note here from a tactical perspective unlike Libya Syria is a different story US and its allies cant just go in take out Assad form a democracy and confiscate chemical weapons because there r other countries involved in the conflict who will not allow such intervention. There has been talk of surgical strikes but the trouble is that the intel of the location of weapons is not always reliable and not to mention that the Syrian regime has a very robust air defense system which cannot be destroyed without civilian casualties and even if it were to be destroyed that wud only be the first step including sending ground forces and considering they r no safe zones they will have to secure them first and then move on. So it seems like a pretty complicated situation.
Good assessment there Hitty...but I thought you were anti-Assad, and pro-Israel.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#12 May 5, 2013
Christian wrote:
Are you keen to help the islamist radicals ??
Are you keen to help Assad give his wife a new Visa and credit line?
Red East

Guam

#13 May 5, 2013
The purported civil war is a war the US does not or need to get into. Even if the West bombs Assad and overthrows Assad, what is the West going to do next? To prevent Syria from being a Somalia, that will take a tremendous amount of troops to stop the fighting, but no one is willing to put their troops there bc just like in Iraq, they will be killed by all the warring parties. And Israel certainly does not want a failed state next door.

A negotiated peace is necessary.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#14 May 5, 2013
Red East wrote:
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Good assessment there Hitty...but I thought you were anti-Assad, and pro-Israel.
I am Anti-Assad and I am against the state the Israel. I beg people again to look at Assad and his history before jumping to conclusions.

Since: Apr 13

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#15 May 5, 2013
Falcon wrote:
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Yes its layered with complications, its not like Iraq and Afghanistan where the US just marched in backed by an angry and brainwashed society... Its not only a war against real military powers, but also convincing their own citizens who are more aware and have felt the sting of their government's greed through the recession and economic perils.. If Russia and Iran are determined to fight to the bitter end, then there's no point to this conflict... It would be better to clean out these filthy FSA terrorists and resume as things were...
FSA r not filthy terrorist who might be a group or two or even more amongst them they do have a lot of normal Syrians fighting to oust Assad and his brutal methods of control.
Red East

Guam

#16 May 5, 2013
Falcon wrote:
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Yes its layered with complications, its not like Iraq and Afghanistan where the US just marched in backed by an angry and brainwashed society... Its not only a war against real military powers, but also convincing their own citizens who are more aware and have felt the sting of their government's greed through the recession and economic perils.. If Russia and Iran are determined to fight to the bitter end, then there's no point to this conflict... It would be better to clean out these filthy FSA terrorists and resume as things were...
Exactly. I don't see this conflict ending with one side prevailing over. Keeping the arms flow only results in more deaths - but the West don't care, so long as Assad falls.
Carlos

New York, NY

#17 May 6, 2013
How much Iranian and Russian propaganda are frustrated Americans willing to swallow up, seriously?

A friend of Tehran is NOT our friend, neither is Assad a man worthy of our trust. The Syrian government has killed thousands of civilians, I can't believe some people actually try to defend the Alawite, for God's sake...

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#18 May 6, 2013
Carlos wrote:
How much Iranian and Russian propaganda are frustrated Americans willing to swallow up, seriously?
A friend of Tehran is NOT our friend, neither is Assad a man worthy of our trust. The Syrian government has killed thousands of civilians, I can't believe some people actually try to defend the Alawite, for God's sake...
I ask myself the same question how do people still support Assad after what he and his regime has done now and when they were ruling the country. I understand why Alawites support him but the rest I really dont get it.
Jude

United States

#19 May 6, 2013
Carlos wrote:
A friend of Tehran is NOT our friend, neither is Assad a man worthy of our trust. The Syrian government has killed thousands of civilians, I can't believe some people actually try to defend the Alawite, for God's sake...
Stick to checkers.
Jude

United States

#20 May 6, 2013
Better still, tac-tac-toe.

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