'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276632 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Los Angeles Times.

John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290687 Feb 1, 2014
Thank Goodness for Capitalism. Run Jeb run
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290688 Feb 1, 2014
JBH wrote:
Russia symbolizes the rise of surging in the upclimb of excelling to shine during this new era period.
Since cold war is over, the new world makes no difference when Olympics are held, whether it was communism that China held Beijing Olympics, but if human rights violation in China would be the issue so as to make the games to be held by keeping on talking about communism instead, that would be counter-productive and make the Olympics lacking the vital value because this is a different new world today that should serve global audiences and consumers pertinently by not having other improper issues getting into Olympics.
Olympics shows and games are the only core importance and agenda as these are all about sports games only.
Sochi Olympics can make consumers' world happy by vesting on putting on great Olympic shows with primary focus on the athletic games ONLY, with no bearing and regard to other subjects like gay matter.
US by using gay issue to inject into the Olympic games, is really showing the diversion by falsehood.
US is accounted for nothing these days, as all it has done are too wrong to start with, from Iraq, Syria, Asia perimeters and elsewhere when people all over the planet become antagonistic toward US because of its wrongful acts.
US does not count much in the new times ahead when cold war is over, as it has been doing the old-past-back-time of backward direction by committing against Universal doctrine and rules.
To the world nowadays, US does not matter much in its doing that would only make matters worse for the world and itself.
Obama conducts the unlawfulness of Bush in the continuance of telling that he supports the mission of liberation of Iraq by having committed genocides of more than a few hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives.
Obama seems to be impregnated in the high anxiety of operating in illegality of unlawfulness, that Obama is another global outlaw, just as Bush.
US lacking concern to global laws to International people's ways of lives and the value of legal ramification is simply out of touch in the reality REGARDING THE COMPLEX REAL WORLD TODAY.
Obama, THUS HAS CONDUCTED IMPROPERLY BUT STILL builds more wrongdoing in his false endeavor, that everything Bush did, is laid upon Obama and charged as consequential responsibility, that Obama has become another terrible outlaw terror.
US would build more rejected image and go down on world stage by having these negative Obama's standpoints and policies.
To the people of the world, they see Russia glowing and upclimbing as International people want Russia to make the world work for them in their needy positions.
As the Russian people are going to celebrate Sochi Olympics with worldwide audiences, people see US would make poor account of itself.
Russia symbolizes the rise of surging in the upclimb of excelling to shine during this new era period as the new world evolvement while viewing US is nothing.
All the people all over the planet know all these are true and real.
How long do you think it will be before the media releases pictures of putin and young men?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290689 Feb 1, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold your peace and read the full report
Got anything on top down demolition yet?

No evidence of thermite on the moon...

Still pissed?

Since: Nov 09

Piketon, OH

#290690 Feb 1, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold your peace and read the full report
Are you crying onemale, where is the most prevalent component of thermite, Barium Nitrate?
DCF and other Monsters

Matthews, NC

#290691 Feb 1, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-5A
RESULTS (Contd.)
The chemical signatures found in the red layers are also quite consistent (Fig. 7), each showing the presence of aluminum (Al), silicon (Si), iron (Fe) and oxygen (O), and a significant carbon (C) peak as well. At still higher magnifications, BSE imaging of the red layer illustrates the similarity between the different dust samples. BSE images of small but representative portions of each red-layer cross section are shown in Fig.(8).
Still not seeing the main ingredient (though I am seeing all the ingredients of OIL BASED EPOXY!)

Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290692 Feb 1, 2014
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-6

2. Test Using Methyl Ethyl Ketone Solvent

By employing some means to separate the different components of the material, the chemical compositions of the different particles in the red layer were more accurately determined. The initial objective was to compare the behavior of the red layer with paint when soaked in a strong organic solvent known to soften and dissolve paint. Red/gray chips were soaked in methyl ethyl Ketone (MEK) for 55 hours with frequent agitation and subsequently dried in air over several days. The chips showed significant swelling of the red layer, but with no apparent dissolution. In marked contrast, paint chips softened and partly dissolved when similarly soaked in MEK
.

It was discovered in this process that a significant migration and segregation of aluminum had occurred in the red-chip material. This allowed us to assess whether some of the aluminum was in elemental form. The chip that was used for this experiment was extracted from dust sample 2 and is shown in the images below. Fig.(12a) shows an SE image of the chip prior to the MEK treatment. It is positioned with the interface between the red and gray layers nearly parallel to the plane of the image. Fig.(12b) shows a BSE image of the chip after the MEK soak.

Note that the chip fractured during the MEK treatment and handling. In this image the red layer and gray layer are side by side so that the interface between the layers is edge-on (perpendicular to the plane of the image) with the gray layer on the right. The red layer of the chip was found, by visual inspection, to have swelled out from the gray layer by a factor of roughly 5 times its original thickness. The photomicrograph shown in Fig.(13) also shows the chip after the MEK soak. The red layer can be seen extending out from the gray layer.

XEDS maps were acquired from the swollen red material at a beam energy of 10 kV, in order to determine the locations of various elements following the MEK treatment. The data shown in Fig.(15) illustrate regions where iron, aluminum and silicon are concentrated. Furthermore, the data indicate that wherever silicon or iron is concentrated, oxygen is also concentrated. On the other hand, there also exist regions where the aluminum is concentrated but where the oxygen may not accompany it commensurately. To confirm and to quantify these observations, XEDS spectra (subsequent plots) were acquired from specific regions of high Si, Al and Fe concentrations.

Focusing the electron beam on a region rich in silicon, located in Fig.(15e), we find silicon and oxygen and very little else (Fig. 16). Evidently the solvent has disrupted the matrix holding the various particles, allowing some migration and separation of the components. This is a significant result for it means that the aluminum and silicon are not bound chemically.

The next XEDS spectrum (Fig. 17) was acquired from a region that showed a high concentration of aluminum. Using a conventional quantification routine, it was found that the aluminum significantly exceeded the oxygen present (approximately a 3:1 ratio). Thus, while some of the aluminum may be oxidized, there is insufficient oxygen present to account for all of the aluminum; some of the aluminum must therefore exist in elemental form in the red material.

This is an important result. Aluminum particles are covered with a layer of aluminum oxide irrespective of size, thus it is reasonable to find a significant oxygen content with the aluminum, given the very high surface area to volume ratio of these very fine particles.


(Contd.)
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290693 Feb 2, 2014
Obama's MYRA sounds like a George Bush idea! Did Obama plagiarize George Bush's 2007 speech?
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290694 Feb 2, 2014
Sounds like they both wanted to keep the stock markets afloat. Would the markets have fallen off if people put their retirement money in the markets under Bush?
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290695 Feb 2, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-6
2. Test Using Methyl Ethyl Ketone Solvent
By employing some means to separate the different components of the material, the chemical compositions of the different particles in the red layer were more accurately determined. The initial objective was to compare the behavior of the red layer with paint when soaked in a strong organic solvent known to soften and dissolve paint. Red/gray chips were soaked in methyl ethyl Ketone (MEK) for 55 hours with frequent agitation and subsequently dried in air over several days. The chips showed significant swelling of the red layer, but with no apparent dissolution. In marked contrast, paint chips softened and partly dissolved when similarly soaked in MEK
.
It was discovered in this process that a significant migration and segregation of aluminum had occurred in the red-chip material. This allowed us to assess whether some of the aluminum was in elemental form. The chip that was used for this experiment was extracted from dust sample 2 and is shown in the images below. Fig.(12a) shows an SE image of the chip prior to the MEK treatment. It is positioned with the interface between the red and gray layers nearly parallel to the plane of the image. Fig.(12b) shows a BSE image of the chip after the MEK soak.
Note that the chip fractured during the MEK treatment and handling. In this image the red layer and gray layer are side by side so that the interface between the layers is edge-on (perpendicular to the plane of the image) with the gray layer on the right. The red layer of the chip was found, by visual inspection, to have swelled out from the gray layer by a factor of roughly 5 times its original thickness. The photomicrograph shown in Fig.(13) also shows the chip after the MEK soak. The red layer can be seen extending out from the gray layer.
XEDS maps were acquired from the swollen red material at a beam energy of 10 kV, in order to determine the locations of various elements following the MEK treatment. The data shown in Fig.(15) illustrate regions where iron, aluminum and silicon are concentrated. Furthermore, the data indicate that wherever silicon or iron is concentrated, oxygen is also concentrated. On the other hand, there also exist regions where the aluminum is concentrated but where the oxygen may not accompany it commensurately. To confirm and to quantify these observations, XEDS spectra (subsequent plots) were acquired from specific regions of high Si, Al and Fe concentrations.
Focusing the electron beam on a region rich in silicon, located in Fig.(15e), we find silicon and oxygen and very little else (Fig. 16). Evidently the solvent has disrupted the matrix holding the various particles, allowing some migration and separation of the components. This is a significant result for it means that the aluminum and silicon are not bound chemically.
The next XEDS spectrum (Fig. 17) was acquired from a region that showed a high concentration of aluminum. Using a conventional quantification routine, it was found that the aluminum significantly exceeded the oxygen present (approximately a 3:1 ratio). Thus, while some of the aluminum may be oxidized, there is insufficient oxygen present to account for all of the aluminum; some of the aluminum must therefore exist in elemental form in the red material.
This is an important result. Aluminum particles are covered with a layer of aluminum oxide irrespective of size, thus it is reasonable to find a significant oxygen content with the aluminum, given the very high surface area to volume ratio of these very fine particles.
(Contd.)
didn't the airplanes contain aluminum?
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290696 Feb 2, 2014
If the markets tank is Obama in the tank.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290697 Feb 2, 2014

Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-6A

2. Test Using Methyl Ethyl Ketone Solvent (Contd.)

Next a region of particularly high iron concentration was analyzed, yielding the XEDS spectrum shown in Fig.(18). Fig.(18). XEDS spectrum obtained from a probe of the region of high iron concentration on the MEK-soaked red chip, acquired with a 15 kV beam. Oxygen is very consistently found in high concentration with the iron in the red material even after soaking in MEK solvent (Fig. 15), and in Fig.(18) an abundance of oxygen is found relative to iron. Based on quantification of the XEDS spectra, and after accounting for oxygen fractions to trace elements, it is found that the Fe: O ratio for the spectrum in Fig.(18) is approximately 2:3. This indicates that the iron is oxidized and apparently in oxidation state III, indicating that Fe2O3, or perhaps an iron (III) oxo-bridged polymer, is present.

To check the quantification method, tests were performed with the known chemical, iron (III) oxide, and the elemental quantification was found to yield consistent and repeatable results for iron and oxygen. In particular we made eight 50- second measurements on Fe2O3 samples and found consistency for iron (± 6.2%, 1 sigma) and for oxygen (± 3.4%, 1 sigma) with the O/Fe ratio consistently near 1.5 as expected.

The existence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide leads to the obvious hypothesis that the material may contain thermite. However, before concluding that the red material found in the WTC dust is thermitic, further testing would be required. For example, how does the material behave when heated in a sensitive calorimeter? If the material does not react vigorously it may be argued that although ingredients of thermite are present, the material may not really be thermitic.

Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...

(Contd.)
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#290698 Feb 3, 2014
NO BARIUM NITRATE = NO THEMITE

Still not seeing the main ingredient (though I am seeing all the ingredients of OIL BASED EPOXY!)

Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-6A
2. Test Using Methyl Ethyl Ketone Solvent (Contd.)
Next a region of particularly high iron concentration was analyzed, yielding the XEDS spectrum shown in Fig.(18). Fig.(18). XEDS spectrum obtained from a probe of the region of high iron concentration on the MEK-soaked red chip, acquired with a 15 kV beam. Oxygen is very consistently found in high concentration with the iron in the red material even after soaking in MEK solvent (Fig. 15), and in Fig.(18) an abundance of oxygen is found relative to iron. Based on quantification of the XEDS spectra, and after accounting for oxygen fractions to trace elements, it is found that the Fe: O ratio for the spectrum in Fig.(18) is approximately 2:3. This indicates that the iron is oxidized and apparently in oxidation state III, indicating that Fe2O3, or perhaps an iron (III) oxo-bridged polymer, is present.
To check the quantification method, tests were performed with the known chemical, iron (III) oxide, and the elemental quantification was found to yield consistent and repeatable results for iron and oxygen. In particular we made eight 50- second measurements on Fe2O3 samples and found consistency for iron (± 6.2%, 1 sigma) and for oxygen (± 3.4%, 1 sigma) with the O/Fe ratio consistently near 1.5 as expected.
The existence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide leads to the obvious hypothesis that the material may contain thermite. However, before concluding that the red material found in the WTC dust is thermitic, further testing would be required. For example, how does the material behave when heated in a sensitive calorimeter? If the material does not react vigorously it may be argued that although ingredients of thermite are present, the material may not really be thermitic.
Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...
(Contd.)
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#290699 Feb 3, 2014
Which countries would allow Ukraine protesters to do volatile rioting?
US has arrested lots of people before in their protests against environmental , nuclear power, issues etc., including arresting famous movies stars.
If Ukraine protesters were to protest in countries with that sort of rioting, they might have been in prisons by now in any countries or even shot in US.
US police had killed innocents of hundreds while Russia police rarely do that.
US police had beaten up hundreds of thousands and too many were also tortured ion US jails.
Russia police rarely do that torture, especially when people are already put in prisons, why torture them as they can't go anywhere?

US had put people doing no crimes on prisons and even convicted them to sentence.
If people do no crimes, why would Russia police put them in jails with no data, evidences and facts, simply crimes happen all the time everywhere?
There is more justice in Russia than in US.

Just US or Russia would puts many and more others in jail.
US has put more people in prisons and executed them than Russia.
THAT Environmentalists protesting in Russia being put in prison, is not because THEY protest THE ENVIRONMENT matter, but making lewdness or disorderly conduct or damaging properties.
The penalties are just 2 weeks in jail or so and often they don't even charge them.
They including gays, who demonstrated against society, Putin and many are in prison because they are violent , commit serous acts of danger, obstruction of justice, etc. and not because they protest against Olympics or Putin, and so on.

US has beaten up and arrested more protesters in very big number than Russia, from ordinary demonstrations, APEC,G-20 conferences and so on.
There is no question US has done lots of torture around the world and used CIA to corrupt people to assail against their countries and people.
Many CIA are jail or deported or put away when they are found from Iran, Japan, and elsewhere.

There are more than 12,000 dying under shooting each year in US and US police pose danger to kill innocents and yet many in US just don't know.
US is fake, unreal and dangerous, but not Russia.
ABs

Eastaboga, AL

#290700 Feb 3, 2014
JBH wrote:
Which countries would allow Ukraine protesters to do volatile rioting?
US has arrested lots of people before in their protests against environmental , nuclear power, issues etc., including arresting famous movies stars.
If Ukraine protesters were to protest in countries with that sort of rioting, they might have been in prisons by now in any countries or even shot in US.
US police had killed innocents of hundreds while Russia police rarely do that.
US police had beaten up hundreds of thousands and too many were also tortured ion US jails.
Russia police rarely do that torture, especially when people are already put in prisons, why torture them as they can't go anywhere?
US had put people doing no crimes on prisons and even convicted them to sentence.
If people do no crimes, why would Russia police put them in jails with no data, evidences and facts, simply crimes happen all the time everywhere?
There is more justice in Russia than in US.
Just US or Russia would puts many and more others in jail.
US has put more people in prisons and executed them than Russia.
THAT Environmentalists protesting in Russia being put in prison, is not because THEY protest THE ENVIRONMENT matter, but making lewdness or disorderly conduct or damaging properties.
The penalties are just 2 weeks in jail or so and often they don't even charge them.
They including gays, who demonstrated against society, Putin and many are in prison because they are violent , commit serous acts of danger, obstruction of justice, etc. and not because they protest against Olympics or Putin, and so on.
US has beaten up and arrested more protesters in very big number than Russia, from ordinary demonstrations, APEC,G-20 conferences and so on.
There is no question US has done lots of torture around the world and used CIA to corrupt people to assail against their countries and people.
Many CIA are jail or deported or put away when they are found from Iran, Japan, and elsewhere.
There are more than 12,000 dying under shooting each year in US and US police pose danger to kill innocents and yet many in US just don't know.
US is fake, unreal and dangerous, but not Russia.
Why do they have so many gay bars in Moscow? The Russian mafia has pix of putin and little boys....

Putin and Mother Teresa should both be put up for sainthood...
ABs

Eastaboga, AL

#290701 Feb 3, 2014
Got anything on TOP DOWN demolition? You aren't still pissed are you comrade?
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-6A
2. Test Using Methyl Ethyl Ketone Solvent (Contd.)
Next a region of particularly high iron concentration was analyzed, yielding the XEDS spectrum shown in Fig.(18). Fig.(18). XEDS spectrum obtained from a probe of the region of high iron concentration on the MEK-soaked red chip, acquired with a 15 kV beam. Oxygen is very consistently found in high concentration with the iron in the red material even after soaking in MEK solvent (Fig. 15), and in Fig.(18) an abundance of oxygen is found relative to iron. Based on quantification of the XEDS spectra, and after accounting for oxygen fractions to trace elements, it is found that the Fe: O ratio for the spectrum in Fig.(18) is approximately 2:3. This indicates that the iron is oxidized and apparently in oxidation state III, indicating that Fe2O3, or perhaps an iron (III) oxo-bridged polymer, is present.
To check the quantification method, tests were performed with the known chemical, iron (III) oxide, and the elemental quantification was found to yield consistent and repeatable results for iron and oxygen. In particular we made eight 50- second measurements on Fe2O3 samples and found consistency for iron (± 6.2%, 1 sigma) and for oxygen (± 3.4%, 1 sigma) with the O/Fe ratio consistently near 1.5 as expected.
The existence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide leads to the obvious hypothesis that the material may contain thermite. However, before concluding that the red material found in the WTC dust is thermitic, further testing would be required. For example, how does the material behave when heated in a sensitive calorimeter? If the material does not react vigorously it may be argued that although ingredients of thermite are present, the material may not really be thermitic.
Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...
(Contd.)
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290702 Feb 3, 2014
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-7

3. Thermal Analysis using Differential Scanning Calorimeters

Red/gray chips were subjected to heating using a differential scanning calorimeter (DSC). The data shown in Fig.(19) demonstrate that the red/gray chips from different WTC samples all ignited in the range 415-435 °C. The energy release for each exotherm can be estimated by integrating with respect to time under the narrow peak. Proceeding from the smallest to largest peaks, the yields are estimated to be approximately 1.5, 3, 6 and 7.5 kJ/g respectively. Variations in peak height as well as yield estimates are not surprising, since the mass used to determine the scale of the signal, shown in the DSC traces, included the mass of the gray layer. The gray layer was found to consist mostly of iron oxide so that it probably does not contribute to the exotherm, and yet this layer varies greatly in mass from chip to chip.

4. Observation of Iron-Rich Sphere Formation Upon Ignition of Chips in a Differential Scanning Calorimeter

In the post-DSC residue, charred-porous material and numerous micro-spheres and spheroids were observed. Many of these were analyzed, and it was found that some were iron-rich, which appear shiny and silvery in the optical microscope, and some were silicon-rich, which appear transparent or translucent when viewed with white light; see photographs taken using a Nikon microscope (Fig. 20).


The abundant iron-rich spheres are of particular interest in this study; none were observed in these particular chips prior to DSC-heating. Spheres rich in iron already demonstrate the occurrence of very high temperatures, well above the 700 °C temperature reached in the DSC, in view of the high melting point of iron and iron oxide [5]. Such high temperatures indicate that a chemical reaction occurred. Using back-scattered electron (BSE) imaging, spheres were selected in the post-DSC residue which appeared to be rich in iron. An example is shown in Fig.(21) along with the corresponding XEDS spectrum for this sphere.

A conventional quantitative analysis routine was used to estimate the elemental contents. In the case of this iron-rich spheroid, the iron content exceeds the oxygen content by approximately a factor of two, so substantial elemental iron must be present. This result was repeated in other iron-rich spheroids in the post-DSC sample as well as in spots in the residue which did not form into spheres. Spheroids were observed with Fe :O ratios up to approximately 4:1. Other iron-rich spheres were found in the post-DSC residue which contained iron along with aluminum and oxygen (see Discussion section).

That thermitic reactions from the red/gray chips have indeed occurred in the DSC (rising temperature method of ignition) is confirmed by the combined observation of 1) highly energetic reactions occurring at approximately 430 °C, 2) iron-rich sphere formation so that the product must have been sufficiently hot to be molten (over 1400 °C for iron and iron oxide), 3) spheres, spheroids and non-spheroidal residues in which the iron content exceeds the oxygen content. Significant elemental iron is now present as expected from the thermitic reduction-oxidation reaction of aluminum and iron oxide. The evidence for active, highly energetic thermitic material in the WTC dust is compelling.

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(Contd.)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#290703 Feb 4, 2014
MUQ wrote:
That thermitic reactions from the red/gray chips have indeed occurred in the DSC (rising temperature method of ignition) is confirmed by the combined observation of 1) highly energetic reactions occurring at approximately 430 °C, 2) iron-rich sphere formation so that the product must have been sufficiently hot to be molten (over 1400 °C for iron and iron oxide), 3) spheres, spheroids and non-spheroidal residues in which the iron content exceeds the oxygen content. Significant elemental iron is now present as expected from the thermitic reduction-oxidation reaction of aluminum and iron oxide. The evidence for active, highly energetic thermitic material in the WTC dust is compelling.
AND STILL NO BARIUM NITRATE = NO THERMITE

Still not seeing the main ingredient (though I am seeing all the ingredients of OIL BASED EPOXY!)

Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
ABs

Eastaboga, AL

#290704 Feb 4, 2014
Mullah King Abdullah limiting you to just one post per internet day now I see...in the immortal words of Braveheart....."FREEDOM! "...

Hey comrade, got anything on top down demolition yet? Still no evidence of thermite on the moon...peace be upon you
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-7
3. Thermal Analysis using Differential Scanning Calorimeters
Red/gray chips were subjected to heating using a differential scanning calorimeter (DSC). The data shown in Fig.(19) demonstrate that the red/gray chips from different WTC samples all ignited in the range 415-435 °C. The energy release for each exotherm can be estimated by integrating with respect to time under the narrow peak. Proceeding from the smallest to largest peaks, the yields are estimated to be approximately 1.5, 3, 6 and 7.5 kJ/g respectively. Variations in peak height as well as yield estimates are not surprising, since the mass used to determine the scale of the signal, shown in the DSC traces, included the mass of the gray layer. The gray layer was found to consist mostly of iron oxide so that it probably does not contribute to the exotherm, and yet this layer varies greatly in mass from chip to chip.
4. Observation of Iron-Rich Sphere Formation Upon Ignition of Chips in a Differential Scanning Calorimeter
In the post-DSC residue, charred-porous material and numerous micro-spheres and spheroids were observed. Many of these were analyzed, and it was found that some were iron-rich, which appear shiny and silvery in the optical microscope, and some were silicon-rich, which appear transparent or translucent when viewed with white light; see photographs taken using a Nikon microscope (Fig. 20).
The abundant iron-rich spheres are of particular interest in this study; none were observed in these particular chips prior to DSC-heating. Spheres rich in iron already demonstrate the occurrence of very high temperatures, well above the 700 °C temperature reached in the DSC, in view of the high melting point of iron and iron oxide [5]. Such high temperatures indicate that a chemical reaction occurred. Using back-scattered electron (BSE) imaging, spheres were selected in the post-DSC residue which appeared to be rich in iron. An example is shown in Fig.(21) along with the corresponding XEDS spectrum for this sphere.
A conventional quantitative analysis routine was used to estimate the elemental contents. In the case of this iron-rich spheroid, the iron content exceeds the oxygen content by approximately a factor of two, so substantial elemental iron must be present. This result was repeated in other iron-rich spheroids in the post-DSC sample as well as in spots in the residue which did not form into spheres. Spheroids were observed with Fe :O ratios up to approximately 4:1. Other iron-rich spheres were found in the post-DSC residue which contained iron along with aluminum and oxygen (see Discussion section).
That thermitic reactions from the red/gray chips have indeed occurred in the DSC (rising temperature method of ignition) is confirmed by the combined observation of 1) highly energetic reactions occurring at approximately 430 °C, 2) iron-rich sphere formation so that the product must have been sufficiently hot to be molten (over 1400 °C for iron and iron oxide), 3) spheres, spheroids and non-spheroidal residues in which the iron content exceeds the oxygen content. Significant elemental iron is now present as expected from the thermitic reduction-oxidation reaction of aluminum and iron oxide. The evidence for active, highly energetic thermitic material in the WTC dust is compelling.
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(Contd.)
ABs

Eastaboga, AL

#290705 Feb 4, 2014
Lots of evidence of Carboline CZ-11 and aluminum office partitions in the dust samples...how does one maintain indubitable chain of custody for six year old samples of dust by the way?
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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AND STILL NO BARIUM NITRATE = NO THERMITE
Still not seeing the main ingredient (though I am seeing all the ingredients of OIL BASED EPOXY!)
Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!
6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?
And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?
First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#290706 Feb 4, 2014
January 16, 2014 12:00 am JST
The paradox of America's fading empire
EMMANUEL TODD
The most important event of 2013 was the change in the relationship between the U.S. and Iran (through the nuclear talks). I have always said that a new kind of civil society has emerged in Iran, so there is nothing new as far as that country is concerned. The new American policy is a dramatic shift.
My prediction of a decline in American power turned out to be absolutely correct. But what we are seeing is that this reduction in power is producing, at last, a more reasonable attitude toward the outside world. In the days of President George W. Bush, there was something unbearable about the U.S., about the idea that there is just one form of democracy with a specific type of financial capitalism, and that this must be extended all over the world. Perhaps the emergence of a new, more reasonable American foreign policy is important in terms of geopolitical balance. It means the risk of war and the risk of conflict, or hysterical conflict, is lower or nil.

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What the author says as above has a lot of basis to it.
This is a changing world of the changing time when cold war is over, which makes no difference regarding systems of governments, ideologies, beliefs for the world change of showing that people no longer hold hardline views in the backward stereotype thinking anymore.
This is the emerging and uprising world in the current time --That is, all is relative and arbitrary, to say that beauty is in the eye of beholder, but what really the beauty is in the eyes of world beholders become ambiguous, which signifies change is necessary to move onward to the future.
As to some people, the west is all that good with human rights and liberty privacy freedom, but not knowing all those are unreal -- such as innocents are even killed by police and convicted in US that it has become a tyrant hypocrisy fascist police state, while the west has much more human rights violation, internal violences and terrors than North Korea, Iran and Russia.
So the true facts, value of truth, justice and the real beauty do not CONFIRM such in THE WEST on this new age planet.
This is the uprising world by the evolvement on the planet -- since the west reflects no truths of any that it symbolizes, what the world sees is that the west is no beauty but demonstrates no ethics but evils, that the world is making change in the moving forward direction, that the west is not just declining, it is obscured, ineffective and not wanted .
Real facts do show US military is wrongful, loser rand failure as its military has been suffering losses in warfares that it started on the planet, that US military is of no military power.
Economically, US has been caught up by many emerging economies, especially China and Russia, that US is no financial big or strong power, that it can negotiate trade deals or has trade wars as how it likes.
US does not represent the free world but hampers it instead, as it is a stereotype backward world in global people 's eyes as no beauty, as it never deals with the modern civilization truths and real facts.
When China aligns with Russia on global matters that Russia becomes the leader for the diversity new world, Russia is on the rise, to deal with global affairs as the new forward frontier that shines.

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