'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276627 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290660 Jan 24, 2014
ABs wrote:
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You put your faith in non-muslims Dylan and Jones, and disregard muslims KSM and UBL...you heretic...shame on you...where is muhammid when you need him?
Have you any family connection with Goebbels, the chief of Nazi Propaganda?

We see some similarities!!
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290661 Jan 25, 2014
MUQ wrote:
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Have you any family connection with Goebbels, the chief of Nazi Propaganda?
We see some similarities!!
LOL...very nice come back Comrade...touché...

Speaking of very nice, how far into the future can you see? Interesting developments in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen recently...see any of that spilling your way?
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290662 Jan 25, 2014
Thank goodness for GWB and Obumble warm relations with Israel, yes comrade? Had they not foiled Al quedas we would be sending body bags to the embassy in Tel Aviv, yes? Was a good thing they were stopped do you agree comrade?
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290663 Jan 25, 2014
MUQ wrote:
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There would be evidence if FBI and NIST were looking for it.
They wanted to "remove the rubble as fast as they could" and "recycle steel as fast as they could" and remove all forensic evidence from the scene of crime as fast as they could.
And then the propaganda war started brandishing every one who asked questions as being "soft on terrorism and questionable patriotism and doubtful nationalism".
That is how most people were made to keep silence and the same is the case.
The Question is not which Govt supported hijackings, the Question is how those towers fell.
They COULD NOT fall because of jet strike and resulting fire!!
Remove the rubble as fast as they could??? Huh? What are you talking about? How long should rubble remain, not to mention you are still searching for bodies...thank goodness there were no bodies to recover when the moon split in half at 1/6th the gravity of earth while only one lucky muslim noticed...
Pegasus

United States

#290664 Jan 25, 2014
ABs wrote:
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Remove the rubble as fast as they could??? Huh? What are you talking about? How long should rubble remain, not to mention you are still searching for bodies...thank goodness there were no bodies to recover when the moon split in half at 1/6th the gravity of earth while only one lucky muslim noticed...
Go Seahawks!!!!!!!
Patriots........then depression set in.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290665 Jan 25, 2014
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3

MATERIALS AND METHODS

1. Provenance of the Samples Analyzed for this Report

In a paper presented first online in autumn 2006 regarding anomalies observed in the World Trade Center destruction [6], a general request was issued for samples of the WTC dust. The expectation at that time was that a careful examination of the dust might yield evidence to support the hypothesis that explosive materials other than jet fuel caused the extraordinarily rapid and essentially total destruction of the WTC buildings.

It was learned that a number of people had saved samples of the copious, dense dust, which spread and settled across Manhattan. Several of these people sent portions of their samples to members of this research group. This paper discusses four separate dust samples collected on or shortly after 9/11/2001. Each sample was found to contain red/gray chips. All four samples were originally collected by private citizens who lived in New York City at the time of the tragedy.

These citizens came forward and provided samples for analysis in the public interest, allowing study of the 9/11 dust for whatever facts about the day might be learned from the dust. A map showing the locations where the four samples were collected is presented as Fig.(1).

The earliest-collected sample came from Mr. Frank Delessio who, according to his videotaped testimony [17], was on the Manhattan side of the Brooklyn Bridge about the time the second Towers, the North Towers, fell to the ground. He saw the Towers fall and was enveloped by the resulting thick dust which settled throughout the area. He swept a handful of the dust from a rail on the pedestrian walkway near the end of the bridge, about ten minutes after the fall of the North Towers.

He then went to visit his friend, Mr. Tom Breidenbach, carrying the dust in his hand, and the two of them discussed the dust and decided to save it in a plastic bag. On 11/15/2007, Breidenbach sent a portion of this dust to Dr. Jones for analysis. Breidenbach has also recorded his testimony about the collection of this dust sample on videotape [17].

Thus, the Delessio/Breidenbach sample was collected about ten minutes after the second Towers collapsed. It was, therefore, definitely not contaminated by the steel cutting or clean-up operations at Ground Zero, which began later. Furthermore, it is not mixed with dust from WTC 7, which fell hours later.

On the morning of 9/12/2001, Mr. Stephen White of New York City entered a room in his apartment on the 8th floor of 1 Hudson Street, about five blocks from the WTC. He found a layer of dust about an inch thick on a stack of folded laundry near a window which was open about 4 inches (10 cm).

Evidently the open window had allowed a significant amount of dust from the WTC destruction the day before to enter the room and cover the laundry. He saved some of the dust and, on 2/02/2008, sent a sample directly to Dr. Jones for analysis.

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ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290666 Jan 26, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3
MATERIALS AND METHODS
.... This paper discusses four separate dust samples collected on or shortly after 9/11/2001....On the morning of 9/12/2001, Mr. Stephen White of New York City entered a room in his apartment on the 8th floor of 1 Hudson Street, about five blocks from the WTC. He found a layer of dust about an inch thick on a stack of folded laundry near a window which was open about 4 inches (10 cm).
...He saved some of the dust and, on 2/02/2008, sent a sample directly to Dr. Jones for analysis.
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Comrade, no wonder you believe in split moons for gawds sake...excerpts taken from your own story...ON 9-12-2001...SHORTLY AFTER 9-11-2001...and the split moon part of this fairy tale...SAVED SOME DUST FOR ALMOST 7 YEARS and sent them rush delivery to nonmuslim Jones...for analysis...wonder if chain of custody was maintained and signed for in that short 7 year period, what do you think?
Oscar Meyer hasn't enough bologna in the world for truthers...
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290667 Jan 26, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3
...He then went to visit his friend, Mr. Tom Breidenbach, carrying the dust in his hand, and the two of them discussed the dust and decided to save it in a plastic bag. On 11/15/2007, Breidenbach sent a portion of this dust to Dr. Jones for analysis. Breidenbach has also recorded his testimony about the collection of this dust sample on videotape [17].
Thus, the Delessio/Breidenbach sample was collected about ten minutes after the second Towers collapsed. It was, therefore, definitely not contaminated by the steel cutting or clean-up operations at Ground Zero, which began later. Furthermore, it is not mixed with dust from WTC 7, which fell hours later.
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Saved the dust in a baggie for 6 years...lol...but hey, we have video testimony swearing it is the truth so it must be the truth, yes comrade? You take the video sworn testimony from a couple of white trash non-muslims over the sworn video testimony from devout muslim KSM and that other lying muslim UBL, very interesting...does your emir know? That is punishable by death is it not, taking a word of an infidel over a brother of the faith?
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#290668 Jan 26, 2014
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>Go Seahawks!!!!!!!
Patriots........then depression set in.
Know the depression feeling Pegz...every team I even remotely cared for this year stunk it up...

Speaking of irony couldn't help but think "Spygate" when thong wearer brady and billychick were taking turns castrating Sherman for winning without class and character...where is comrade MUQ when you need someone to get on thong and thing about throwing stones in glass houses...lol

GO BRONCOS...Manning will show class and poise in victory or defeat....
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290669 Jan 26, 2014

Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3A

MATERIALS AND METHODS (Contd.)

Another sample was collected from the apartment building at 16 Hudson Street by Mr. Jody Intermont at about 2 pm on 9/12/2001. Two small samples of this dust were simultaneously sent to Dr. Jones and to Kevin Ryan on 2/02/2008 for analysis. Intermont sent a signed affidavit with each sample verifying that he had personally collected the (now split) sample; he wrote:

“This dust, which came from the ‘collapsed’ World Trade Center Towerss, was collected from my loft at the corner of Reade Street and Hudson Street on September 12, 2001. I give permission to use my name in connection to this evidence”.[Signed 31 January 2008 in the presence of a witness who also signed his name].

On the morning of 9/11/2001, Ms. Janette MacKinlay was in her fourth-floor apartment at 113 Cedar St./110 Liberty St. in New York City, across the street from the WTC plaza. As the South Towers collapsed, the flowing cloud of dust and debris caused windows of her apartment to break inward and dust filled her apartment. She escaped by quickly wrapping a wet towel around her head and exiting the building.

The building was closed for entry for about a week. As soon as Ms. MacKinlay was allowed to re-enter her apartment, she did so and began cleaning up. There was a thick layer of dust on the floor. She collected some of it into a large sealable plastic bag for possible later use in an art piece.

Ms. MacKinlay responded to the request in the 2006 paper by Dr. Jones by sending him a dust sample. In November 2006, Dr. Jones traveled to California to visit Ms. MacKinlay at her new location, and in the company of several witnesses collected a second sample of the WTC dust directly from her large plastic bag where the dust was stored.

She has also sent samples directly to Dr. Jeffrey Farrer and Kevin Ryan. Results from their studies form part of this report. Another dust sample was collected by an individual from a window sill of a building on Potter Street in NYC. He has not given permission for his name to be disclosed, therefore his material is not included in this study. That sample, however, contained red/gray chips of the same general composition as the samples described here.

6. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200...

17. http://video.google.com/videoplay...

Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...

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uidiotracemakewo rldpeace

United States

#290670 Jan 26, 2014
ABs wrote:
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Yes...war continues and KSA supplies French weapons to Lebanon to keep Syrian refugees at bay...while obumble watches...and muslim nations do nothing to stop the killing fields...what a perfect system they have in the lands of islam, yes/
The Logic of Imperial Insanity and the Road to World War III
by Andrew Gavin Marshall (foreign policy strategist)
www.globalresearch.ca/ , January 14, 2011

When [Barack] Obama became President, America and its Western allies were engaged in a number of wars, occupations and covert destabilizations, from Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, to the Congo, and Obama took office in the midst of Israel’s brutal assault against Gaza. From the beginning of his presidency, Obama immediately justified Israel’s vicious attack against innocent Palestinians, rapidly accelerated the war and occupation of Afghanistan, expanded the war into Pakistan, started a new war in Yemen, and supported a military coup in Honduras, which removed a popular democratic government in favour of a brutal dictatorship. Obama’s administration has expanded covert special operations throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and the Horn of Africa, and is paving the way for a war against Iran.[5] In fact, the Obama administration has expanded Special Operations forces into 75 countries around the world (compared with a height of 60 during the Bush regime). Among the many countries with expanded operations are Yemen, Colombia, the Philippines, Somalia, Pakistan, among many others.
John Marteny

Lincoln, NE

#290671 Jan 27, 2014
YAWN! Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.

http://www.911myths.com/html/where_s_the_bari...
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3A
MATERIALS AND METHODS (Contd.)
Another sample was collected from the apartment building at 16 Hudson Street by Mr. Jody Intermont at about 2 pm on 9/12/2001. Two small samples of this dust were simultaneously sent to Dr. Jones and to Kevin Ryan on 2/02/2008 for analysis. Intermont sent a signed affidavit with each sample verifying that he had personally collected the (now split) sample; he wrote:
“This dust, which came from the ‘collapsed’ World Trade Center Towerss, was collected from my loft at the corner of Reade Street and Hudson Street on September 12, 2001. I give permission to use my name in connection to this evidence”.[Signed 31 January 2008 in the presence of a witness who also signed his name].
On the morning of 9/11/2001, Ms. Janette MacKinlay was in her fourth-floor apartment at 113 Cedar St./110 Liberty St. in New York City, across the street from the WTC plaza. As the South Towers collapsed, the flowing cloud of dust and debris caused windows of her apartment to break inward and dust filled her apartment. She escaped by quickly wrapping a wet towel around her head and exiting the building.
The building was closed for entry for about a week. As soon as Ms. MacKinlay was allowed to re-enter her apartment, she did so and began cleaning up. There was a thick layer of dust on the floor. She collected some of it into a large sealable plastic bag for possible later use in an art piece.
Ms. MacKinlay responded to the request in the 2006 paper by Dr. Jones by sending him a dust sample. In November 2006, Dr. Jones traveled to California to visit Ms. MacKinlay at her new location, and in the company of several witnesses collected a second sample of the WTC dust directly from her large plastic bag where the dust was stored.
She has also sent samples directly to Dr. Jeffrey Farrer and Kevin Ryan. Results from their studies form part of this report. Another dust sample was collected by an individual from a window sill of a building on Potter Street in NYC. He has not given permission for his name to be disclosed, therefore his material is not included in this study. That sample, however, contained red/gray chips of the same general composition as the samples described here.
6. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200...
17. http://video.google.com/videoplay...
Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...
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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#290672 Jan 27, 2014
YAWN! Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
ABs

Fayetteville, GA

#290673 Jan 27, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-3A
MATERIALS AND METHODS (Contd.)
Another sample was collected from the apartment building at 16 Hudson Street by Mr. Jody Intermont at about 2 pm on 9/12/2001. Two small samples of this dust were simultaneously sent to Dr. Jones and to Kevin Ryan on 2/02/2008 for analysis. Intermont sent a signed affidavit with each sample verifying that he had personally collected the (now split) sample; he wrote:
“This dust, which came from the ‘collapsed’ World Trade Center Towerss, was collected from my loft at the corner of Reade Street and Hudson Street on September 12, 2001. I give permission to use my name in connection to this evidence”.[Signed 31 January 2008 in the presence of a witness who also signed his name].
On the morning of 9/11/2001, Ms. Janette MacKinlay was in her fourth-floor apartment at 113 Cedar St./110 Liberty St. in New York City, across the street from the WTC plaza. As the South Towers collapsed, the flowing cloud of dust and debris caused windows of her apartment to break inward and dust filled her apartment. She escaped by quickly wrapping a wet towel around her head and exiting the building.
The building was closed for entry for about a week. As soon as Ms. MacKinlay was allowed to re-enter her apartment, she did so and began cleaning up. There was a thick layer of dust on the floor. She collected some of it into a large sealable plastic bag for possible later use in an art piece.
Ms. MacKinlay responded to the request in the 2006 paper by Dr. Jones by sending him a dust sample. In November 2006, Dr. Jones traveled to California to visit Ms. MacKinlay at her new location, and in the company of several witnesses collected a second sample of the WTC dust directly from her large plastic bag where the dust was stored.
She has also sent samples directly to Dr. Jeffrey Farrer and Kevin Ryan. Results from their studies form part of this report. Another dust sample was collected by an individual from a window sill of a building on Potter Street in NYC. He has not given permission for his name to be disclosed, therefore his material is not included in this study. That sample, however, contained red/gray chips of the same general composition as the samples described here.
6. http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200...
17. http://video.google.com/videoplay...
Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...
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So comrade MUQ...you no talk to your good buddy ABsolutely ABsurd aka ABs anymore? Wow, you must be the one pissed off eh comrade...why you pissed off at me comrade? Don't have an answer for why ALL THESE PEOPLE waited 6 to 7 years to have their samples tested? I have an answer for it, it is called holding out and cutting a good deal with Doktor Jones for percentages of "DONATE NOW" contributions...but seriously...saved the dust in a baggie for 6 years...lol...but hey, you do have that video testimony swearing it is the truth so it must be the truth, yes comrade? You never answered ...why you take the video sworn testimony from a few non-muslims yet you easily dismiss the sworn video testimony from devout muslim KSM and UBL, very interesting...why is that comrade? Be careful comrade, you start doubting sworn muslim testimony and before you know it you start to have doubts about the moon actually splitting...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290674 Jan 27, 2014
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-4

2. Chip Size, Isolation, and Examination

For clarification, the dust samples collected and sent to the authors by Ms. Janette MacKinlay will be sample 1; the sample collected by Mr. Frank Delassio, or the Delassio/ Breidenbach sample, will be sample 2; the sample collected by Mr. Jody Intermont will be sample 3; and the sample collected by Mr. Stephen White will be sample 4.

The red/gray chips are attracted by a magnet, which facilitates collection and separation of the chips from the bulk of the dust. A small permanent magnet in its own plastic bag was used to attract and collect the chips from dust samples. The chips are typically small but readily discernible by eye due to their distinctive color. They are of variable size with major dimensions of roughly 0.2 to 3 mm. Thicknesses vary from roughly 10 to 100 microns for each layer (red and gray).

Samples of WTC dust from these and other collectors have been sent directly from collectors to various scientists (including some not on this research team) who have also found such red/gray chips in the dust from the World Trade Center destruction.

An FEI XL30-SFEG scanning electron microscope (SEM) was used to perform secondary-electron (SE) imaging and backscattered electron (BSE) imaging. The SE imaging was used to look at the surface topography and porosity of the red/gray chips, while the BSE imaging was used to distinguish variations in average atomic number, Z.

The microscope was also equipped with an EDAX X-ray energy dispersive spectrometry (XEDS) system. The XEDS system uses a silicon detector (SiLi) with resolution better than 135 eV. The spectrum resolution was set to 10 eV per channel. Operating conditions for the acquired XEDS spectra were 20 keV beam energy (unless otherwise specified) and 40-120 second acquisition time (livetime). XEDS maps were acquired using the same system at a beam energy of 10 keV.

For general surface analysis in the SEM, dust samples were mounted to carbon conductive tabs. The samples were left unwashed and uncoated unless otherwise specified. In order to more closely observe the characteristics of the red and gray layers, and to eliminate the possibility of surface contamination from other dust particles, several red/gray chips from each of the four WTC dust samples were fractured. The clean, cross-section surfaces were then studied by BSE imaging and XEDS.

Some samples were also tested in a differential scanning calorimeter (Netzsch DSC 404C) to measure heat flow into or out of the red/gray chips. The DSC tests were conducted with a linear heating rate of 10 °C per minute up to a temperature of 700 °C. During heating, the samples were contained in alumina pans and air was allowed to flow at 55 milliliters per minute during the heating. The plots were generated by acquiring data points at a rate of 20 points per °C or 200 points per minute. The equipment was calibrated to display the data in watts per gram. The plots were set to display positive heat flow out of the sample such that exothermic behavior of the sample would yield a peak and endothermic behavior a trough.

The dust samples were also examined by visible-light microscopy (VLM) through a Nikon Epiphot 200 stereomicroscope, an Olympus BX60 stereomicroscope and a Nikon Labophot microscope and camera.

Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#290675 Jan 28, 2014
Where is the one of the most significant components in thermite? Barium Nitrate!

6. Do the chemicals discovered provide a complete thermite signature?

And second, there are other elements that are left out almost entirely. Professor Jones finds Sulfur on his metal samples, for instance, but doesn’t report any Barium Nitrate, even though that’s a much more significant part of the thermate mix. If that cannot be satisfactorily explained, then surely that means no thermate, at least of the type Professor Jones is describing?

First, there’s very little information about how the levels of each chemical relate to a typical thermate mix, or what you might expect to find in a post-reaction thermate residue. For example, Professor Jones reports that his “previously molten metal” sample “has (in spots) Aluminum (Al, possibly Al203) Sulfur (S) and Potassium”, along with “abundant Manganese”. Despite thermate having far more aluminum than sulfur, though, Jones sample seems to show more sulfur than aluminum. Perhaps we’re misreading that, maybe the aluminum is consumed in the reaction while most sulfur survives: we don’t know. But it seems to us that figuring out what the relative levels of these elements ought to be, after a thermite reaction, would be useful in proving (or disproving) the theory.
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290676 Jan 28, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-4
2. Chip Size, Isolation, and Examination
For clarification, the dust samples collected and sent to the authors by Ms. Janette MacKinlay will be sample 1; the sample collected by Mr. Frank Delassio, or the Delassio/ Breidenbach sample, will be sample 2; the sample collected by Mr. Jody Intermont will be sample 3; and the sample collected by Mr. Stephen White will be sample 4.
The red/gray chips are attracted by a magnet, which facilitates collection and separation of the chips from the bulk of the dust. A small permanent magnet in its own plastic bag was used to attract and collect the chips from dust samples. The chips are typically small but readily discernible by eye due to their distinctive color. They are of variable size with major dimensions of roughly 0.2 to 3 mm. Thicknesses vary from roughly 10 to 100 microns for each layer (red and gray).
Samples of WTC dust from these and other collectors have been sent directly from collectors to various scientists (including some not on this research team) who have also found such red/gray chips in the dust from the World Trade Center destruction.
An FEI XL30-SFEG scanning electron microscope (SEM) was used to perform secondary-electron (SE) imaging and backscattered electron (BSE) imaging. The SE imaging was used to look at the surface topography and porosity of the red/gray chips, while the BSE imaging was used to distinguish variations in average atomic number, Z.
The microscope was also equipped with an EDAX X-ray energy dispersive spectrometry (XEDS) system. The XEDS system uses a silicon detector (SiLi) with resolution better than 135 eV. The spectrum resolution was set to 10 eV per channel. Operating conditions for the acquired XEDS spectra were 20 keV beam energy (unless otherwise specified) and 40-120 second acquisition time (livetime). XEDS maps were acquired using the same system at a beam energy of 10 keV.
For general surface analysis in the SEM, dust samples were mounted to carbon conductive tabs. The samples were left unwashed and uncoated unless otherwise specified. In order to more closely observe the characteristics of the red and gray layers, and to eliminate the possibility of surface contamination from other dust particles, several red/gray chips from each of the four WTC dust samples were fractured. The clean, cross-section surfaces were then studied by BSE imaging and XEDS.
Some samples were also tested in a differential scanning calorimeter (Netzsch DSC 404C) to measure heat flow into or out of the red/gray chips. The DSC tests were conducted with a linear heating rate of 10 °C per minute up to a temperature of 700 °C. During heating, the samples were contained in alumina pans and air was allowed to flow at 55 milliliters per minute during the heating. The plots were generated by acquiring data points at a rate of 20 points per °C or 200 points per minute. The equipment was calibrated to display the data in watts per gram. The plots were set to display positive heat flow out of the sample such that exothermic behavior of the sample would yield a peak and endothermic behavior a trough.
The dust samples were also examined by visible-light microscopy (VLM) through a Nikon Epiphot 200 stereomicroscope, an Olympus BX60 stereomicroscope and a Nikon Labophot microscope and camera.
Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...
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Gat anything for Top down demolition?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290677 Jan 28, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-4
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Why MOON SPLIT? No evidence of thermite...

Note that the verses of the Quran and several hadiths that narrate this story do not claim that this so called miracle was performed by Muhammad. They simply state that people saw the Moon in two sides of the mount Hira and Muhammad said this is a sign from Allah to convince you that I am a prophet. Many Muslims are convinced that this phenomenon has indeed happened. They are shown close-up pictures of the Moon taken by NASA as the evidence and as gullible as they naturally are, they believe without any hesitation...
Sound familiar comrade MUQ...believe with hesitation??? But moving along....
The photos show gorges across the face of the moon...they are called Lunar Rilles. Rilles are long and deep gorges resembling canyons. A rille is typically several kilometers wide and hundreds of kilometers in length. Similar formations are found on a number of planets in the solar system, including Mars, Venus, and on a number of moons. See bellow

How these rilles are formed is still not known with certainty. Theories include erosion at some point in the stellar body's history, collapsed lava tubes, and tectonic activity/stresses.

There are three types of rilles on the lunar surface:
•Sinuous rilles meander in a curved path like a river, and are commonly thought to be the remains of collapsed lava tubes or extinct lava flows. They usually begin at an extinct volcano, then meander and sometimes split as they are followed across the surface.
•Arcuate rilles have a smooth curve and are found on the edges of the dark lunar maria. They are believed to form when the lava flows that created a mare cools, contracts, and sinks.
•Straight rilles follow long, linear paths and are believed to be grabens. That is, a section of the crust that has sunk between two parallel faults. These can be readily identified when they pass through craters or mountain ranges.

Rilles can be found all over the lunar surface and they do not form a belt and therefore do not in anyway support the claim of Muslims that the Moon had been split asunder...
Moon splitting, the greatest conspiracy theory of all time...one that has resulted in the deaths of millions of people based on religious ideology that was built on false premises...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290678 Jan 28, 2014
Why Moon split theory...no evidence of thermite...continued

Apollo mission photographs of the Rima Ariadaeus revealed a rift line across the surface of the moon. In 2007, Dr. Zaghloul El Najjar used these photos further propagated by news services such as Jafariya News to claim to the muslim world that NASA had proven that the Moon had split.
NASA scientists state that no evidence exists that the Moon was split into two or more parts any time in the past. NASA scientist Brad Bailey commented, "My recommendation is to not believe everything you read about split moon confirmation. Peer-reviewed papers are the only scientifically valid sources of information out there. No current scientific evidence reports that the Moon was split into two (or more) parts and then reassembled at any point in the past...and dust samples taken from the moon during the time that man was there were put in baggies for 7 years and then sent to Doktor Jones to test for thermite...no red chips found...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290679 Jan 28, 2014
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-5

RESULTS

1. Characterization of the Red/Gray Chips

Red/gray chips were found in all of the dust samples collected. An analysis of the chips was performed to assess the similarity of the chips and to determine the chemistry and materials that make up the chips. Fig.(2) displays photomicrographs of red/gray chips from each of the four WTC dust samples. Note the scale marker in each image as they were acquired at different magnifications. At approximately 2.5 mm in length, the chip in Fig.(2a) was one of the larger chips collected. The mass of this chip was approximately 0.7 mg.

All of the chips used in the study had a gray layer and a red layer and were attracted by a magnet. The inset image in Fig.(2d) shows the chip in cross section, which reveals the gray layer. The gray layer is also partially visible in Fig.(2b). Similarities between the samples are already evident from these photographs.

Fig.(3) shows three images for comparison of views of the same set of chips using different methods. Fig.(3a) is a VLM photomicrograph of a group of particles, which shows the red material and in some cases the adhering gray material. Fig.(3b, c) are, respectively, a secondary electron (SE) image and a backscattered electron (BSE) image of the same group of particles, using a scanning electron microscope (SEM) without a conductive coating over the sample.

It can be seen in the SE image that the red layer of the particles has very bright regions caused by a slight accumulation of charge under the electron beam, owing to the relatively poor conductivity of the red layer (see Discussion section).

The BSE image shows the red layer darker than the gray layer, indicating that the red layer is composed of material that has a relatively lower average atomic number than the gray layer.

A higher-magnification BSE image of the corner of one of the chips, shown in Fig.(4), allows for closer examination of the difference in grayscale intensity of the two layers and confirms the higher average atomic number of the gray layer. The red material also shows specks and other heterogeneities, in marked contrast to the smooth gray layer.

Newly fractured cross sections of red/gray chips from the four different dust samples are shown by BSE imaging in Fig.(5). These four cross sections are representative of all the red/gray chips studied from the dust samples. The BSE images illustrate the finding that all of the red layers studied contained small bright particles or grains characterized by a high average atomic number.

The size and presence of the particles was found to be consistent throughout the layers, but the concentration of the particles was found to vary locally, as can be seen from the images.

X-ray energy-dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS) analyses of both the red and gray layers from cross sections prepared from the four dust samples were performed and representative spectra are shown in Figs.(6, 7). The four spectra in Fig.(6) indicate that the gray layers are consistently characterized by high iron and oxygen content including a smaller amount of carbon.

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