'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276627 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#290382 Dec 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Why WTC Collapsed on 9/11? Part-27
The other shill operation that the newcomer must not fall for is when the shill poses as a "9/11 truther", yet postulates a hypothesis that is even more preposterous and devoid of evidence than the "suicidal Arab hijackers" hoax. For example, many disinformation agents peddle the notion that "no planes hit the WTC Towers". They propose the use of "holograms", "CGI scripts", "TV fakery", etc.
They would really need to allege that the silhouettes approximating that of a Boeing 767 in the Towers prior to collapse were made by "cleverly placed charges", the witnesses were delusional or part of the plot, the seismic evidence and oscillation of the Towers was "faked" or made up, the wreckage was "planted", etc. Or maybe they don't provide such explanations, well aware that some will still be duped by their sophistry. In any case, the goal of the "no-planers" is not to convince anyone that no planes hit the WTC; it is to tarnish the 9/11 truth movement by associating it with loopy ideas.
Of course, "no planes hit the WTC" is not to be confused with the debate over whatever projectile(s) struck the Pentagon. The jury is still out on that. And the planes that hit the WTC were not necessarily the alleged Flights AA11 and UA175.
It is clear that anyone who really believes that no planes hit the WTC on 9/11 must be so incredibly stupid that they would have problems even feeding themselves, let alone booting up a computer or posting to internet forums. And sure enough, the "no planes" disinformation is linked to intelligence agencies.'Ex'-CIA John Lear is one who promotes it; another is the aforementioned 'ex'-MI5 David Shayler.
Then there is 'ex'-Bush administration member Morgan Reynolds, who was soon debunked. Another no-planer was a former poster at WakeUpFromYourSlumber.Com with the handle Quasimodo, who was peddling his spiel back in August 2006 and quickly identified as a shill by astute posters. Quasimodo, an American and possible CIA agent with Photoshopping skills, is a member of a disinformation team operating out of FugaziQuo.Com who pose as "Christians" and "critics" of Judaism, yet devote most of their time to sabotaging the truth movement with their attacks on genuine truth seekers.
Quasimodo posts at Stormfront under the handle Lintonshstein, where he has evolved into a supporter of Brendon O'Connell who was charged under "racial vilification" laws for posting a video on YouTube. Quasimodo used to attack him, e.g. here where he claimed Brendon O'Connell is a "woman" and a member of "Team Poz", whatever that is supposed to be. From the Lintonshstein / Quasimodo / Mingus, aka Andy writing style which may observed at his blog at the top of that page, and at this one, it may be seen that Quasimodo is Lintonshstein.
The Hufschmid disinformation gang post under multiple handles, which they can then use as a means of attacking genuine opponents of Jewish supremacism, terrorism and corruption.
still waiting for Atta to show up on TV to proclaim his innocence. One thing I saw on TV before all the made up "truther " stuff was that the firemen knew 7 was going to fall down on 9-11 before it fell down. And 7 was badly damaged wAs the reason. Guess you weren't watching TV that day.
Citizen org

Oakdale, NY

#290383 Dec 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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The culprits become the Judge....they decide themselves on their own conspiracy.
That is called "being economical with the truth"!!
That is ludicrous because 9/11/01 would have to involve many different people and many different organizations and everyone knows if more than two or three people know about something it is extremely hard to keep a secret.

MUQ, many people came forward about Iraq but where are all the whistleblowers in regard to 9/11?

You are confusing the two.

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CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat / July 25, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/ljbsh9v
half-dozen former CIA agents investigating prewar intelligence have found that a secret Pentagon committee, set up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in October 2001, manipulated reams of intelligence information prepared by the spy agency on the so-called Iraqi threat and then delivered it to top White House officials who used it to win support for a war in Iraq.

The former CIA agents were asked to examine prewar intelligence last year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and CIA Director George Tenet. The former agents will present a final report on their findings to the Pentagon, the CIA and possibly the Senate and/or Congress later this year.

More than a dozen calls to the White House, the CIA, the National Security Council and the Pentagon for comment were not returned.

The ad-hoc committee, called the Office of Special Plans, headed by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and other Pentagon hawks, described the worst-case scenarios in terms of Iraq's alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and claimed the country was close to acquiring nuclear weapons, according to four of the CIA agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the information is still classified, who conducted a preliminary view of the intelligence. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB254...
Citizen org

Oakdale, NY

#290384 Dec 5, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Thanks for sharing Tinyearl...and a recent story at that...but you left the best part out for our comrade Muq...
Con Ed had claimed negligence resulted in part because Tower 7's tenants were allowed to install diesel backup generators.
The fuel burned for hours in the building after hijacked planes struck the two nearby towers, flinging debris into the smaller skyscraper. Con Edison had maintained that fuel from the diesel tanks heightened the fire's intensity.
The fire department decided to let Tower 7 burn because it was unable to reach adequate water supplies, there were no people in the building and 343 firefighters had already been killed that day, the appeals court noted.
What say yee MUQ
Very true ABs, I have to update my arsenal. LOL

We live in the digital electronic age and after 12 years something would have come out by now, even though most know that the 9/11 investigation did not go far enough.

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The 9/11 Ommission Commission / Lee Hamilton’s own words
Lee Hamilton: "We do not claim in this report to have written the final truth"
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-09-01/lee-ham...
ABs

Conyers, GA

#290385 Dec 5, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>not intentional? The guy is running down the sideline right at him and he couldn't step back sooner?
Just like a candy arsed raven to swerve and avoid him instead of just running the idiot over, lol...of course it had to be unintentional, otherwise the ref would have thrown a flag...even MUQ understands that! No flag no foul...
ABs

Conyers, GA

#290386 Dec 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Do not try to change the subject. Find out How WTC -7 crashed to ground when no plane had hit it!!
It was a "bigger miracle" than splitting of moon. The whole world was fooled by the "Logical explanation" provided by GWB the Great and his cronies!!
Not trying to change the subject, just curious where you get all your hate from, that's all...I mean, one would think if your spend a quarter of every day praying and submitting to allah's will, one would think this would make you passive, lovng and caring yet here you are so full of hate for jews and non-muslims...help me understand will you comrade? Certainly allah can't be whispering hatred into your ears can he or she? Which leads me to another curiosity...when you speak to your allah do you address him as a he, or her as a she? Is your allah male or female...please advise, thanks comrade...

By the way, what impact do you think all those diesel fuel storage tanks had on wtc7, along with the pummeling of two of its three primary supporting columns by 220 stories of "near freefall" debris? And when can we talk mock up of the moon? I propose bondo and grout as the substrates...
ABs

Conyers, GA

#290387 Dec 5, 2013
For my good buddy Henry...
government panel proposed additional measures to lessen the radioactive water crisis at Japan’s crippled nuclear power plant, saying Tuesday that current plans are not enough to prevent the risk of a disaster.

Officials on the Industry Ministry’s contaminated water panel also said that the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant could run out of storage space for contaminated water within two years if current plans are not fully workable.

A draft report, made available to reporters after the panel’s experts and officials met, proposes covering the ground with asphalt to reduce rain inflow, building giant tanks and other steps. A final report is expected later this month.

The proposal incorporates ideas from some of 780 sets of proposals sent from around the world at the request of the ministry to seek international expertise in tackling the problem of massive amounts of radioactive water, which experts say is hampering the plant’s decommissioning process. The first step of the process began last month.

Radioactive water has been leaking from the damaged reactors and mixing with groundwater since an earthquake and tsunami in 2011 destroyed the plant’s power and cooling systems, causing three reactors to melt and damaging a fourth reactor building.

Experts say that the underground water that flows into the reactor and turbine basements is mostly rainwater, which can be reduced by covering most exposed dirt with asphalt in the plant compound. Details, including the extent of asphalt coverage, still need to be discussed, panel official Yoshiyuki Toyoguchi said.

Experts also cautioned that decreasing the amount of groundwater could cause the ground to sink in some areas with soft structure. Such vulnerable locations include the area where hundreds of tanks have been built to contain highly radioactive water, said Hitoshi Tsukamoto, a geologist at the National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology. He said measures to increase stability underneath the tanks should be taken.
Sandy

Marquette, MI

#290388 Dec 6, 2013
SYMS ... my boy.
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John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#290389 Dec 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Just like a candy arsed raven to swerve and avoid him instead of just running the idiot over, lol...of course it had to be unintentional, otherwise the ref would have thrown a flag...even MUQ understands that! No flag no foul...
Like refs call every holding call
Citizen org

Oakdale, NY

#290390 Dec 7, 2013
Radioactive Fukushima Water Headed for US West Coast
As nuclear industry and allies in government play down risk, scientists warn there is no such thing as safe radiation / December 6, 2013 /
Radioactive water contaminated by Japan's ravaged Fukushima nuclear plant will soon reach the west coast of the United States, according to Chairwoman of U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Allison Macfarlane, Bloomberg reports.
As the nuclear industry and its allies in government attempt to play down the danger of the contaminated ocean waters, scientists warn there is no such thing as safe radiation.
“The highest amount of radiation that will reach the U.S. is two orders of magnitude — 100 times — less than the drinking water standard," Macfarlane told Bloomberg. "So, if you could drink the salt water, which you won’t be able to do, it’s still fairly low.”
Her claims of safety come on the heels of repeated efforts by TEPCO, the nuclear industry and the Japanese government to cover up and play down the spiraling Fukushima nuclear crisis./ http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/12/...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290392 Dec 8, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Not trying to change the subject, just curious where you get all your hate from, that's all...I mean, one would think if your spend a quarter of every day praying and submitting to allah's will, one would think this would make you passive, lovng and caring yet here you are so full of hate for jews and non-muslims...help me understand will you comrade? Certainly allah can't be whispering hatred into your ears can he or she? Which leads me to another curiosity...when you speak to your allah do you address him as a he, or her as a she? Is your allah male or female...please advise, thanks comrade...
By the way, what impact do you think all those diesel fuel storage tanks had on wtc7, along with the pummeling of two of its three primary supporting columns by 220 stories of "near freefall" debris? And when can we talk mock up of the moon? I propose bondo and grout as the substrates...
I think you are in your day dream mode.
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290393 Dec 8, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Like refs call every holding call
Don't know what to say ol boy...no flag, no foul. Don't know why they are fining him when it wasn't even a penalty...as stupid as targeting rule...candy arssed liberals screwing up football now
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290394 Dec 8, 2013
henry wrote:
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Well you would have to Change a system. In a nuclear Age things are no more able to rectify.
Be aware hank...in Belgium the nuclear age is upon you...Half the 9,770 vats of low nuclear waste are expected to show gel formation.

Several months ago a suspicious-looking gel was found to be leaking from several dozen vats stored at the Belgoprocess plant in Dessel. A chemical reaction in the vats that contain a mixture of nuclear waste and concrete is the cause. The gel is seeping out of the vats under the rim of the lid. When it comes into contact with the air it dries up.

Half of all vats of nuclear waste expected to leak

The official was unable to provide definitive figures because the matter is still being followed up but Wim Van Rompay expects half of all vats eventually to show the seepage. The gel is being formed as a result of an alkali-silica chemical reaction following the use of gravel.

A spokesman for the electricity generator Electrabel refused to be drawn on the numbers as the investigation is ongoing.

Doel nuclear power plant expects to obtain a new licence for the nuclear waste packaging process within two years. Waste is being stored in large reservoirs for the time being. The permanent storage of the vats was supposed to start in 2019, but a solution for the gel seepage will have to be found before then...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290395 Dec 8, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>still waiting for Atta to show up on TV to proclaim his innocence. One thing I saw on TV before all the made up "truther " stuff was that the firemen knew 7 was going to fall down on 9-11 before it fell down. And 7 was badly damaged wAs the reason. Guess you weren't watching TV that day.
Have seen any "badly damaged" sky scrapper to fall on its feet lately?

Why WTC-7 was the exception? And why it was not even mentioned in 9-11 commission report?
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#290396 Dec 8, 2013
Citizen org wrote:
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That is ludicrous because 9/11/01 would have to involve many different people and many different organizations and everyone knows if more than two or three people know about something it is extremely hard to keep a secret.
MUQ, many people came forward about Iraq but where are all the whistleblowers in regard to 9/11?
You are confusing the two.
Not "so many" people would have to know about the "real conspiracy". This was being hatched and planned for years, with key people being placed at strategic positions.

Every one might not have known the full details. And do you think that any "petty criminal" would have planned something 9/11?

As for the people "defending" Govt. story, have not so many "patriotic and nationalist" US citizens have blind support in what Govt. says and not listening to the big holes in that explanation?

Mulitudes behave like sheep, one following the other.
Citizen org

Brooklyn, NY

#290398 Dec 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "so many" people would have to know about the "real conspiracy". This was being hatched and planned for years, with key people being placed at strategic positions.
Every one might not have known the full details. And do you think that any "petty criminal" would have planned something 9/11?
As for the people "defending" Govt. story, have not so many "patriotic and nationalist" US citizens have blind support in what Govt. says and not listening to the big holes in that explanation?
Mulitudes behave like sheep, one following the other.
The absolute truth still remains MUQ my friend.

The 19 Muslim hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia.

Why didn't Usama bin Laden come forward and proclaim his innocence?

Why did the Pakistani government hide him for all those years?

Why is Ayman al-Zawahiri still on the Lam and in hiding?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290399 Dec 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Have seen any "badly damaged" sky scrapper to fall on its feet lately?
Why WTC-7 was the exception? And why it was not even mentioned in 9-11 commission report?
Why we not talk about number 1 conspiracy of all time, one that has 1.5 trillion sheeple fooled?

For sake of discussion comrade I am curious...Have you seen any hi-rise skyscraper fall and NOT fall into its own footprint regardless of the reason it came down....ever? It is amazing how gravity works, comrade...except of course how gravity failed to work during that one miraculous exception that full moon night in the desert many many centuries ago...you know the one, that great gravity exception that fortunately for you muslims was witnessed by one in one billion that eventful night when law of physics and gravity took the night off...I am so thankful muhammid was there to see it otherwise we may never have known of such a ....gravity defying....miracle....
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#290400 Dec 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Have seen any "badly damaged" sky scrapper to fall on its feet lately?
Why WTC-7 was the exception? And why it was not even mentioned in 9-11 commission report?
7 was badly damaged . Ride your bike around NYC and you see lots of beautiful sky scrapers that were not badly damaged.

9-11 report did not mention 7 because it wasn't germane. Just like Bin Laden wearing a robe wasn't germane
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290401 Dec 9, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "so many" people would have to know about the "real conspiracy". This was being hatched and planned for years, with key people being placed at strategic positions.
Every one might not have known the full details. And do you think that any "petty criminal" would have planned something 9/11?
As for the people "defending" Govt. story, have not so many "patriotic and nationalist" US citizens have blind support in what Govt. says and not listening to the big holes in that explanation?
Mulitudes behave like sheep, one following the other.
One following the other...kind of like moon splitting believers and followers of muhammid? I know what you mean comrade...how stupid and blind can people be?

Still I can't help but wonder why not a single planner or plot hatcher has come forward to collect the millions of dollars in rewards awaiting the person with proof of an inside job on 9-11...not a single one. Even you must admit that is pretty amazing, yes? I mean let's face it, if I had a chance for millions I would be tempted...how about you?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290402 Dec 9, 2013
Sandy wrote:
SYMS ... my boy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q3PiLsLgqyEXX&feature=sha re
Just curious your thoughts on this one...depending on who is doing the telling it appears that somewhere between 600 and 700 MILLION DOLLARS WAS SPENT ON OBUMBLECARE website...I repeat...between 600 and 700 MILLION DOLLARS...that equals TWO MILLION DOLLARS for every person enrolling...I reapeat...2 MILLION DOLLARS PER PERSON...I don't know about you but....2 MILLION DOLLARS can pay for quite a bit of healthcare...yes?

P.S...this just in....GM bailout cost taxpayers 10 BILLION dollars to save how many jobs?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#290403 Dec 9, 2013
More news for Frankie...here's a shocker...obumble lied...

President Obama lied about the chemical weapons attack that killed hundreds of Syrians in August—or at least spoke way out of school, writes Seymour Hersh in the London Review of Books. "In some instances, he omitted important intelligence, and in others he presented assumptions as facts," writes Hersh. "Most significant, he failed to acknowledge something known to the US intelligence community: that the Syrian army is not the only party in the country’s civil war with access to sarin," which the UN says was used in the attack. What Hersh found out:

• The Obama administration talked as if it had monitored Assad's movements to organize the sarin strike in real time. In fact, they knew nothing in real time and never proved it later.
• "The immediate assumption was that Assad had done it," a former senior intelligence official told Hersh. "There was a lot of political pressure to bring Obama to the table to help the rebels, and there was wishful thinking that this [tying Assad to the sarin attack] would force Obama’s hand."
• Highly classified US intelligence reports had already stated that al-Nusra, a powerful jihadist group linked to al-Qaeda, knew how to produce sarin. But the Obama administration never admitted that al-Nusra may have gassed innocent Syrians.
• Al-Nusra is the most influential among 1,200 Syrian opposition groups, and the Free Syrian Army has been complaining about their attacks. In other words, the FSA is "more worried about the crazies than it is about Assad," said a senior intelligence consultant.
So did Obama back away from military strikes—and agree to Russia's proposal to dismantle chemical weapons—because he realized al-Nusra might be to blame? "It appears possible that at some point he was directly confronted with contradictory information: evidence strong enough to persuade him to cancel his attack plan, and take the criticism sure to come from Republicans," writes Hersh...

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