'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276644 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289863 Sep 25, 2013
The Top Ten Connections Between, NIST and Nano-Thermites, KEVIN R. RYAN, July 2, 2008 Part-

The presence of Pacific Scientific Energetics (PSE) in this list of 1999 NSWC-IH contractors is interesting because PSE was the parent company of Special Devices, Inc (SDI). SDI specializes in explosives for defense, aerospace and mining applications, and was acquired in 1998 by John Lehman, 9/11 Commissioner, member of the Project for a New American Century, and former Secretary of the Navy (SDI 2008). Lehman divested in 2001.

With this in mind, it is worthwhile to reiterate that nano-thermite materials were very likely used in the deceptive demolition of the WTC buildings, but most certainly played only a part in the plan. However, other high-tech explosives were available to those who had access to nano-thermite materials at the time. Like SDI, several other organizations with links to military, space and intelligence programs (e.g. In-Q-Tel, Orbital Science) have access to many types of high-tech explosives to cut high-strength bolts and produce pyrotechnic events (Goldstein 2006). These organizations also have connections to those who could have accessed the buildings, like WTC tenant Marsh & McLennan and former NASA administrator and Securacom director, James Abrahamson.

In any case, it is important for those seeking the truth about 9/11 to consider what organizations and people had access to the technologies that were used to accomplish the deceptive demolition of the WTC buildings. It is also important to recognize the links between those who had access to the technologies, those who had access to the buildings, and those who produced the clearly false official reports.

To that end we should note that NIST had considerable connections to nano-thermites, both before and during the WTC investigation. It is therefore inexplicable why NIST did not consider such materials as an explanation for the fires that burned on 9/11, and long afterward at Ground Zero. This fact would not be inexplicable, of course, if those managing the NIST investigation knew to not look, or test, for such materials.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289864 Sep 25, 2013
The Top Ten Connections Between, NIST and Nano-Thermites, KEVIN R. RYAN, July 2, 2008 Part-
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Army (1999), Summaries of US Army budget activities, FY 1999
http://www.asafm.army.mil/budget/fybm/fy01/rf...
Army (2008), US Army SBIR 08.2 Proposal Submision Instructions
http://www.dodsbir.net/solicitation/sbir082/a...
Battelle (2008), Corporate website for Nanomaterials / Nanotechnology,
http://www.battelle.org/solutions/...
Jordan, JL, Foley JR, Dick, RD, Ferranti L, Thadhani NN, McDowell DL, Austin RA, Benson DJ (2007), Equation of State of Aluminum-Iron Oxide-Epoxy Composite, Air Force Research Lab Eglin AFB FL Munitions Directorate
Chartek (now International Paint) is the maker of Interchar, and they work with NASA
http://www.international-pc.com/pc/pds/963to_...
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2006/ps_3....
Choi HJ, Austin R, Allen JK, McDowell DL, Mistree F, Benson DJ (2005), An Approach for Robust Design of Reactive Power Metal Mixtures Based on Non-deterministic Micro-scale Shock Simulation, Journal of Computer-Aided Materials Design, Volume 12, Number 1 / January, 2005
Clapsaddle BJ, Gash AE, Plantier KB, Pantoya ML, Satcher Jr. JH, Simpson RL (2004), Synthesis and Characterization of Mixed Metal Oxide Nanocomposite Energetic Materials, LLNL Report UCRL-PROC-204118
CNMM (2008), NIST/NASA Center for Nano Manufacturing and Metrology
http://www.enme.umd.edu/cnmm/
CNST (2008), NIST Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology website
http://cnst.nist.gov/
COEM (2004), Advanced Energetic Materials, Committee on Advanced Energetic Materials and Manufacturing Technologies, National Research Council, The National Academies Press, online book available at -- http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php...
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DOD (2005), US Defense Nanotechnology Research and Development Programs, Department of Defense Director, Defense Research and Engineering, Executive Summary, May 2005,
http://www.nano.gov/html/res/DefenseNano2005....
DOD (2007), US Department of Defense, Annual Report on Cooperative Agreements and Other Transactions Entered into during Fiscal Year 2006 Under 10 USC 2371
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/policy/attachment...
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http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200...
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http://www.flcmidatlantic.org/interagency_clu...
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http://www.bfrl.nist.gov/866/HOTWC/HOTWC2006/...
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http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire02/PDF/...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289865 Sep 25, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>you are wrong again. GWB was retired by term limits and will never be a Hitler.
Glad to be of help to GWB the Great. Someday everyone will see the light
Someday people will realize that "they missed the chance, to not give that shoe treatment to GWB the Great, why they did not charge in White House that day and let GWB the Great had it in his face".

Most people any way, not dumbwit slaves like you.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

United States

#289866 Sep 26, 2013
LeStrike wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not saying a plane didn't hit it, I'm saying that it was not a commercial plane and it had a strange object underneath it.
Surely you don't believe the planes/fire brought the towers down in 2 hours!!! Its bollox as the Windsor building in Spain burned intensively for 18 hours and didn't collapse or even buckle. 18 hours, not 2!!!
WTC was built to withheld a plane strike, its all lies - 9/11 was an inside job. Your obviously American
if my friend saw an airliner, it was an airliner.

Govt can show you the track of 175 which did not show up anywhere else. An pieces are part of FBI evidence.

Yes I'm American as mom and apple pie,
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#289867 Sep 26, 2013
LeStrike wrote:
What I can't get my head around is why no one questions the pentagon. It was quite clearly a missile strike, I have seen the only footage they released and what I saw was a missile flying into the pentagon, not no passenger jet. Many a pilot has stated that the manoeuvre the plane would of had to do in order to hit the very office that was looking into the missing $3.2 trillion, was a virtually impossible manoeuvre, flying a huge passenger jet at such a low altitude from the angle that it had to come from. An amateur pilot such as the guy who couldn't even fly a Cessna for Christ's sake. Open your eyes those of you who still think some bearded bloke in a cave arranged the whole thing via his mobile phone! How did he charge this phone? Did he have a 230 mile extension cable in his cave, or maybe he used solar panels, the type that can't be seen from above. Solar panels need light to work, so would need to be out side, the spy satellites would of picked it up in an instant, that is of course if you believe that the Americans were looking for him in the first place. Was he a voluntary patsie? He became the worlds most famous terrorist since Guy Faulkes, praised the world over by all those that quite rightly hate the Americans and the pure liberties they take with anyone and everyone. If you don't like it, fcuk it, they'll just invade you and build military bases in your country. Let's hope that China & Russia team up and kick some American ass!
Tower 7 - Barry Jennings the black fella that was told not to look down when walking out of the building after the explosions he witnessed, he stated that he was stepping over dead bodies, even crooked Silverstein mentioned that there had been such a terrible loss of life's already, so the decision was made to 'pull it'. He said it, pull it is a term that is used in demolition. Even someone with an ounce of common knowledge knows exactly what pull it means, especially when that word is used in explaining the collapse of the tower.
The fire department do not carry explosives nor are they trained in planting them and destroying steel structures, only a professional could do such a job, not a fireman. And most certainly not in the time it took from when the first plane hit the first tower and tower 7 collapsing (being destroyed, or being pulled as Mr Silverstein told the whole world) I'm sure he regrets saying that, I'm sure GWB wishes he never told us that he saw the plane hit the tower on TV whilst waiting to go and speak to the children.
No you didn't George, because NO ONE (not even someone with the contacts you have) saw the first plane hit the first tower until the following day.
He lied about WMD's to enable him to rape Iraq of its oil and all of Saddams riches.
He is now raping Afghanistan of its opium, cultivation has risen by around 800% since the Americans moved in!
Its just like the Contra all over again, using the drugs to fund the war.
These are not safe times to live in - times are changing and our lives are worth less.
I wonder what is next. Maybe another false flag shooting to help with the automatic weapon ban in America.
They're so transparent.
Your first sentence is so ludicrous that a missile hit the Pentagon not a plane.

You do realize that the Hundreds and Hundreds and Hundreds of first responders all seen a plane inside the Pentagon.

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9/11 Debunked: 136 Eyewitnesses to Pentagon Attack
http://tinyurl.com/c85b4g


Bush in classroom on 9/11 with his commentary!
http://tinyurl.com/24bep4
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#289868 Sep 26, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>if my friend saw an airliner, it was an airliner.
Govt can show you the track of 175 which did not show up anywhere else. An pieces are part of FBI evidence.
Yes I'm American as mom and apple pie,
And don't forget the Chevrolet.

LOL
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

United States

#289869 Sep 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Someday people will realize that "they missed the chance, to not give that shoe treatment to GWB the Great, why they did not charge in White House that day and let GWB the Great had it in his face".
Most people any way, not dumbwit slaves like you.
the shoe thrower missed and so did every skunk that disliked Bush. Ha ha ha
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

United States

#289870 Sep 26, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
And don't forget the Chevrolet.
LOL
never owned a Chevy but another American car. I tell the truth. Muq can 't stand the truth
spOko

Oakland, CA

#289871 Sep 26, 2013
History shows, every time the Republicans gain a majority in the house they shut down the Gov’t so far it has happened 17 times.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289872 Sep 26, 2013
spOko wrote:
History shows, every time the Republicans gain a majority in the house they shut down the Gov’t so far it has happened 17 times.
Who cares? Where are your bloody cries for more regulation on knives, for christsake...BAN KNIVES NOW!!!

SAN FRANCISCO (AP)- A man was stabbed to death after a fight broke out near San Francisco's AT&T Park, where the Giants were playing the Los Angeles Dodgers, authorities said.

Police were releasing few details about the stabbing other than to say it occurred shortly after 11:30 p.m. Wednesday at Third and Harrison streets during a confrontation between two groups of men. Police have detained three people in the area and are interviewing witnesses, but have not made any arrests, Sgt. Danielle Newman said.

She said police were not disclosing additional information, including whether the fight involved rival fans. Giants spokeswoman Staci Slaughter said she did not have additional information about the incident, but wanted to emphasize that the stabbing took place several blocks away from the stadium.

The violence comes just three days after a teenage football fan was attacked at San Francisco's Candlestick Park during the San Francisco 49ers 27-7 loss to the Indianapolis Colts. Other violence broke out at the game on Sunday despite an increase in security. The stadium was also the site of two shootings, beatings and fights during a preseason game two years ago.

Stadium security and fan behavior also came under scrutiny when another Dodgers-Giants matchup saw a Northern California paramedic severely beaten. Bryan Stow, a Giants fan, suffered a traumatic brain injury after a beating by two men dressed in Dodgers gear following the March 31, 2012, home opener between the teams.

I bet you were all (pardon the pun) UP IN ARMS when the shootings took place, why so silent now? Don't know about you, francis, but if I were a betting man had that man that got hisself stabbed dead, I bet if he had been packing a gun he would be alive to tell you about it today, what do you think?Oh never mind, another oxymoron, you thinking...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289873 Sep 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Concentrate on topic of discussion, and do not diverge.
I guess that is a yes, you calling KSM a liar...so what is the punishment for a muslim calling another muslim a liar with no proof? And even more importantly, what is the penalty for a muslim killing 150 christians for...being.....christian?

So how much nano-thermite did muhammid use on the moon? and even more impressinve, how did he get it to un-nano and return to a full moon that only he could see out of one billion people? Now that is a conspiracy even an idiot wouldn't argue...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289874 Sep 26, 2013
spOko wrote:
History shows, every time the Republicans gain a majority in the house they shut down the Gov’t so far it has happened 17 times.
Hey arseplug...if obumble had lived up to his campaign promise why would they need to vote to increase the debt?
spOko

Oakland, CA

#289875 Sep 26, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey arseplug...if obumble had lived up to his campaign promise why would they need to vote to increase the debt?
Because, Forrest, THEY already spent it so unless THEY increase the debt ceiling the interest rate on the debt goes up! The President does not spend -- congress does!
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#289876 Sep 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
The Top Ten Connections Between, NIST and Nano-Thermites, KEVIN R. RYAN, July 2, 2008 Part-
References
Amptiac (2002), Amptiac Quarterly Volume 6, No 1, Special Issue: A Look Inside Nanotechnology, http://www.p2pays.org/ref/15/14610.pdf
Army (1999), Summaries of US Army budget activities, FY 1999
http://www.asafm.army.mil/budget/fybm/fy01/rf...
Army (2008), US Army SBIR 08.2 Proposal Submision Instructions
http://www.dodsbir.net/solicitation/sbir082/a...
Battelle (2008), Corporate website for Nanomaterials / Nanotechnology,
http://www.battelle.org/solutions/...
Jordan, JL, Foley JR, Dick, RD, Ferranti L, Thadhani NN, McDowell DL, Austin RA, Benson DJ (2007), Equation of State of Aluminum-Iron Oxide-Epoxy Composite, Air Force Research Lab Eglin AFB FL Munitions Directorate
Chartek (now International Paint) is the maker of Interchar, and they work with NASA
http://www.international-pc.com/pc/pds/963to_...
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2006/ps_3....
Choi HJ, Austin R, Allen JK, McDowell DL, Mistree F, Benson DJ (2005), An Approach for Robust Design of Reactive Power Metal Mixtures Based on Non-deterministic Micro-scale Shock Simulation, Journal of Computer-Aided Materials Design, Volume 12, Number 1 / January, 2005
Clapsaddle BJ, Gash AE, Plantier KB, Pantoya ML, Satcher Jr. JH, Simpson RL (2004), Synthesis and Characterization of Mixed Metal Oxide Nanocomposite Energetic Materials, LLNL Report UCRL-PROC-204118
CNMM (2008), NIST/NASA Center for Nano Manufacturing and Metrology
http://www.enme.umd.edu/cnmm/
CNST (2008), NIST Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology website
http://cnst.nist.gov/
COEM (2004), Advanced Energetic Materials, Committee on Advanced Energetic Materials and Manufacturing Technologies, National Research Council, The National Academies Press, online book available at -- http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php...
CRHC (1986), Cooperative Research History Commons, Context of '(Mid-1986): Report Rates Vulnerability of Public Areas of WTC to Terrorist Attack as ‘Very High’' http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.js...
Diaz E, Brousseau P, Ampleman G, Prudhomme RE (2003), Polymer Nanocomposites from Energetic Thermoplastic Elastomers and Alex&#61666;, Propellants, Explosives, Pyrotechnics 28, No.4
DOD (2005), US Defense Nanotechnology Research and Development Programs, Department of Defense Director, Defense Research and Engineering, Executive Summary, May 2005,
http://www.nano.gov/html/res/DefenseNano2005....
DOD (2007), US Department of Defense, Annual Report on Cooperative Agreements and Other Transactions Entered into during Fiscal Year 2006 Under 10 USC 2371
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/policy/attachment...
Douglas, Eric (2006), The NIST WTC Investigation--How Real Was The Simulation?: A review of NIST NCSTAR 1, J 9/11 Studies, December 2006
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200...
FLCTT (2008), Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer website
http://www.flcmidatlantic.org/interagency_clu...
Gann RG (1997), Next-Generation Fire Suppression Technology Program (NGP): A Status Report, Halon Options Technical Working Conference, 6-8 May 1997
http://www.bfrl.nist.gov/866/HOTWC/HOTWC2006/...
Gann RG (2002), FY2001 Annual Report Next Generation Fire Suppression Technology Program (NGP), NIST Technical Note 1445, Building and Fire Research Laboratory
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire02/PDF/...
MUQ I have been researching some of your USA sites and still cannot make any connections that the Towers had to be wired and tampered with before September 11, 2001.

Then again, I am not a scientist.
MUQ

Delhi, India

#289877 Sep 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ I have been researching some of your USA sites and still cannot make any connections that the Towers had to be wired and tampered with before September 11, 2001.
Then again, I am not a scientist.
You have more faith in CNN, FOX, GWB the Great.....than any of them have themselves.

Pray God to help you!!
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#289878 Sep 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You have more faith in CNN, FOX, GWB the Great.....than any of them have themselves.
Pray God to help you!!
CNN is corrupt corporate news with half-truths and parrots the lies of both parties.

Fox News is corrupt corporate rightwing propaganda mixed in with half-truths and parrots the lies of both parties.

GWB will be remembered as the worst president for giving tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans in a time of two wars, one of whom Iraq was no threat, and after the worst attack on American soil, September 11, 2001 since Pearl Harbor 1941.

P.S. MUQ I think you have me confused with some of our other friends on Topix. LOL
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289880 Sep 27, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they did...lol!
So francis, how did you like the way that lilly white cold war era Russian president played our half white president like a fiddle during the latest rounds of Syrian does and dont's? Community organizer never had a chance...dumarse never saw it coming...lol
He who laughs last laughs best
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289881 Sep 27, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
CNN is corrupt corporate news with half-truths and parrots the lies of both parties.
Fox News is corrupt corporate rightwing propaganda mixed in with half-truths and parrots the lies of both parties.
GWB will be remembered as the worst president for giving tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans in a time of two wars, one of whom Iraq was no threat, and after the worst attack on American soil, September 11, 2001 since Pearl Harbor 1941.
P.S. MUQ I think you have me confused with some of our other friends on Topix. LOL
There’s a confused and confusing debate going on over whether President Obama has presided over a “spending binge,” as Republicans claim, or whether, under Obama,“federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.”

The key is fiscal year 2009 -- and who you blame for it. By any measure, spending popped that year. If you’re looking at raw dollars, it rose by $535 billion. And “the 2009 fiscal year,” writes Market Watch’s Rex Nutting,“which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House.”

That’s true: The federal fiscal year stretches, somewhat weirdly, from October to September. So fiscal year 2009 began in October 2008.

And that’s the point of Nutting’s analysis: if you attribute most of fiscal year 2009 to George W. Bush then, after adjusting for inflation, federal spending under Obama has actually dropped by 0.1 percent. Politifact checked the numbers and agreed:“Using raw dollars, Obama did oversee the lowest annual increases in spending of any president in 60 years,” they write.“Using inflation-adjusted dollars, Obama had the second-lowest increase -- in fact, he actually presided over a decrease.” Here’s Nutting’s graph
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289883 Sep 27, 2013
On September 22, 2005 Jones presented his views on the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and World Trade Center 7 at a BYU seminar attended by approximately 60 people. Jones claimed that a variety of evidence defies the mainstream collapse theory and favors controlled demolition, using nanothermite. The evidence Jones cited included the speed and symmetry of the collapses, characteristics of dust jets, eyewitness reports of explosions in the lower levels of the buildings, partially corroded beams, molten metal in the basements that remained red hot for weeks following the event, and that no modern high rise had ever collapsed from fire. Additionally, Jones claims that he has identified grey/red flakes found in the dust as nanothermite traces. He has also claimed that the thermite reaction products (aluminium oxide and tiny iron spheres) were also found in the dust.[12] He called for further scientific investigation to test the controlled demolition theory and the release of all relevant data by the government.[13] Shortly after the seminar, Jones placed a research paper entitled "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" on his page in the Physics department website, noting that BYU had no responsibility for the paper.[14]

Jones subsequently defended the WTC research in lectures at Idaho State University, Utah Valley State College, University of Colorado at Boulder and University of Denver, the Utah Academy of Science, Sonoma State University, University of California at Berkeley, and the University of Texas at Austin.[15][16][17][18][19][20 ][21]

On September 7, 2006, Jones removed his paper from BYU's website at the request of administrators and was placed on paid leave.[22] The university cited its concern about the "increasingly speculative and accusatory nature" of Jones' work and that perhaps Jones' research had "not been published in appropriate scientific venues" as reasons for putting him under review. The review was to have been conducted at three levels: BYU administration, the College of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, and the Physics Department.[23] Jones' colleagues also defended Jones' 9/11 work to varying degrees,[24] and Project Censored lists his 9/11 research among the top mainstream media censored stories of 2007.[25]

Jones' placement on paid leave drew criticism from the American Association of University Professors and the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Both organizations have long been critics of BYU's record on academic freedom.[26] Jones "welcomed the review" because he hoped it would "encourage people to read his paper for themselves," however the review was abandoned (contrary to Jones' request) when Jones elected to retire, effective January 1, 2007.[27]

Jones has been interviewed by mainstream news sources and has made a number of public appearances. Although Jones has urged caution in drawing conclusions,[28] some believe that his public comments have indicated a significant degree of certainty on the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center and the culpability of elements within the U.S. government.[29] In one interview, Jones asserted that the attacks were "an 'inside job', puppeteered by the neoconservatives in the White House to justify the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries, inflate military spending, and expand Israel."[30] His name is often mentioned in reporting about 9/11 conspiracy theories.[31]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289884 Sep 27, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey arseplug...if obumble had lived up to his campaign promise why would they need to vote to increase the debt?
Maybe because the increase in debt is what will go for paying for Bush's unpaid for wars. remember, tax cuts to fund two wars, ever hear of such a thing! Stupid is what Stupid does.(Bush)

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