'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Aug 30, 2013
 
ABs wrote:
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Go it alone says UK in SNUB to OBUMBLE...
If the US intends to move forward with a military strike against Syria, it will have to do so without its usual partner: The British Parliament today rejected any use of force, a vote that the AP describes as a "stunning defeat" for Prime Minister David Cameron. The vote may not deter the White House, however: The New York Times says President Obama is prepared to act alone, even if he lacks the support of the UN Security Council and the US Congress as well. The White House, which continues to stress that no decision has been made, is set to make its case for potential military action to Congress tonight.
The British vote surely stings in the West Wing. The Guardian notes that Britain has joined the US "in every significant military outing" since the 1989 Panama invasion.
Change you can count on for sure francis...our prestigious administration snubbed by more allies across the globe than an administration across the globe...
The land of the wingunz where thinking does not exist. Democrats have said this for years, Gdub & Co poisoned the well with the Iraq war deception and it will be a long time before our allies will trust us again! You rightwing retards have to come up with a better lie ... how about the GOPers blaming Obama for the slow and largely ineffective response to Hurricane Katrina, which hit the Gulf Coast, Aug. 31, 2005. Barack Obama did not become president until more than three years later.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
Angels Flight wrote:
Some wars are never over.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23...
Kashmir clash:'Five militants' killed
Kashmir, claimed by both India and Pakistan, has seen an armed insurgency against Indian rule since 1989.
In recent years violence in Kashmir has abated from its peak in the 1990s, but the causes of the insurgency are still far from resolved.
And the hanging earlier this year of a Kashmiri man, Afzal Guru, on charges of plotting the 2001 attack on India's parliament, has triggered a fresh spate of violence in Kashmir.
Capitalism and war is the biggest Profit. They will always be twin Brothers. Throw capitalism on the heap of history and humanity will get very slowly towards peace. No? Right you are! The behest of the nuclear deadly Radiation will haunt us for a very Long period to come.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
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Hey francis, still trying to figure out what that racist bigot piece of shi'ite mayor meant by chocolate city?
One other question, why does Obama use drones to murder perceived threats while violating other nations sovereignity? Seems ....so.....evil riechwingish, yes...but here we are...the most proficient assassin the world has ever known is a half white bahstahd pretending to be a liberal and getting a free pass from you clueless leftists...what gives? When are you going to call a spade a spade?
Obama like former US presidents are puppets of big Business. They would be no longer live without the oks of the billionairs.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
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Yeah man now Putin will destroy the USA
What a silly character! Putin has enough work to bring back Russia to normalcy.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Good luck in Syria President Obama
No, president Assad good luck together with Putin!
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#289567
Aug 30, 2013
 
Worker Ant wrote:
Will the world ever see peace?
No, it's not in their nature.
Just Forget the capitalist world and we will get nearer to a world peace. 99% of the People want peace and not the 1% billionaires! Without the overwhelming majority of the humanity at power we would have Long ago a prosperous world. Capitalism is bringing in the nuclear Age People nearer to the end of life.
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Aug 30, 2013
 
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I am still on topic, I wish you taste of real freedom, my friend....what topic is more important than that?
To answer your question...same group responsible for 7-7 in London and the first round of attacks on wtc...same group as Mumbai, same group as...you get the drift...but back to topic...how do you suppose buildings were stripped of insulation and firefilm and set up with thermite and nanos and shape cutters and demolition explosive and the incredible part.... no one noticed?
Capitalism without end means war for reasons of super Profit. In the nuclear Age (look at Japan!)this means the Inferno at the beginning.
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Aug 31, 2013
 
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Since when is a jet liner with a lot of fuel "tiny"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Compared to mighty 110 story WTC-1 and WTC-2, the jetliner was really "Tiny".

It caused damage to only one of its 110 stories....how dumb you people are?

Cannot ever see the video!!

But when brain is controlled by CNN and Fox News....eyes do not notice much!!
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Aug 31, 2013
 
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I am still on topic, I wish you taste of real freedom, my friend....what topic is more important than that?
To answer your question...same group responsible for 7-7 in London and the first round of attacks on wtc...same group as Mumbai, same group as...you get the drift...but back to topic...how do you suppose buildings were stripped of insulation and firefilm and set up with thermite and nanos and shape cutters and demolition explosive and the incredible part.... no one noticed?
Do not "pretend" that you have answered my posts.

London Bombing is not the issue here, the issue is "free fall of WTC Towers due to Single Jet strike on the eve of 9/11".

I am yet to see any relevant comment from you so far.
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Aug 31, 2013
 
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-4

2. Chip Size, Isolation, and Examination

For clarification, the dust samples collected and sent to the authors by Ms. Janette MacKinlay will be sample 1; the sample collected by Mr. Frank Delassio, or the Delassio/ Breidenbach sample, will be sample 2; the sample collected by Mr. Jody Intermont will be sample 3; and the sample collected by Mr. Stephen White will be sample 4.

The red/gray chips are attracted by a magnet, which facilitates collection and separation of the chips from the bulk of the dust. A small permanent magnet in its own plastic bag was used to attract and collect the chips from dust samples. The chips are typically small but readily discernible by eye due to their distinctive color. They are of variable size with major dimensions of roughly 0.2 to 3 mm. Thicknesses vary from roughly 10 to 100 microns for each layer (red and gray).

Samples of WTC dust from these and other collectors have been sent directly from collectors to various scientists (including some not on this research team) who have also found such red/gray chips in the dust from the World Trade Center destruction.

An FEI XL30-SFEG scanning electron microscope (SEM) was used to perform secondary-electron (SE) imaging and backscattered electron (BSE) imaging. The SE imaging was used to look at the surface topography and porosity of the red/gray chips, while the BSE imaging was used to distinguish variations in average atomic number, Z.

The microscope was also equipped with an EDAX X-ray energy dispersive spectrometry (XEDS) system. The XEDS system uses a silicon detector (SiLi) with resolution better than 135 eV. The spectrum resolution was set to 10 eV per channel. Operating conditions for the acquired XEDS spectra were 20 keV beam energy (unless otherwise specified) and 40-120 second acquisition time (livetime). XEDS maps were acquired using the same system at a beam energy of 10 keV.

For general surface analysis in the SEM, dust samples were mounted to carbon conductive tabs. The samples were left unwashed and uncoated unless otherwise specified. In order to more closely observe the characteristics of the red and gray layers, and to eliminate the possibility of surface contamination from other dust particles, several red/gray chips from each of the four WTC dust samples were fractured. The clean, cross-section surfaces were then studied by BSE imaging and XEDS.

Some samples were also tested in a differential scanning calorimeter (Netzsch DSC 404C) to measure heat flow into or out of the red/gray chips. The DSC tests were conducted with a linear heating rate of 10 °C per minute up to a temperature of 700 °C. During heating, the samples were contained in alumina pans and air was allowed to flow at 55 milliliters per minute during the heating. The plots were generated by acquiring data points at a rate of 20 points per °C or 200 points per minute. The equipment was calibrated to display the data in watts per gram. The plots were set to display positive heat flow out of the sample such that exothermic behavior of the sample would yield a peak and endothermic behavior a trough.

The dust samples were also examined by visible-light microscopy (VLM) through a Nikon Epiphot 200 stereomicroscope, an Olympus BX60 stereomicroscope and a Nikon Labophot microscope and camera.

Contd. http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php...

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Aug 31, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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Do not "pretend" that you have answered my posts.
London Bombing is not the issue here, the issue is "free fall of WTC Towers due to Single Jet strike on the eve of 9/11".
I am yet to see any relevant comment from you so far.
Hate to tell you. WTC towers did not free fall. You visiting those brainless truther sites, I rather watch them make chocolate covered bacon on FOX
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Good luck in Syria President Obama
Obama should return the Nobel peace Price. He never earned it.
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Aug 31, 2013
 
Angels Flight wrote:
Some wars are never over.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-23...
Kashmir clash:'Five militants' killed
Kashmir, claimed by both India and Pakistan, has seen an armed insurgency against Indian rule since 1989.
In recent years violence in Kashmir has abated from its peak in the 1990s, but the causes of the insurgency are still far from resolved.
And the hanging earlier this year of a Kashmiri man, Afzal Guru, on charges of plotting the 2001 attack on India's parliament, has triggered a fresh spate of violence in Kashmir.
In capitalism war can never stop. War means super profits.
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Aug 31, 2013
 
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
If the American people could vote now. They would vote for George Bush and $2 per gallon of gas. That would grow the economy.
So easy is it such a "lucky" state like the US to make to a savior of the world (irony).
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Try to imagine all the lives, careers, hopes, and families that Bush has destroyed. Try to imagine the fate of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees, the departure of educated and skilled Iraqis from Iraq, the ultimate horror of civil war that, to this day, is ravaging the country. The cost of Bush's aggression in Iraq is covered in red ink and foreign borrowing, which is financially punishing every American for a long time to come by not only pushing down the value of the dollar and pushing up the tax burden to service the war debt. Bush/Cheney are war criminals, having committed a massive crime against Iraqis, against the Middle East, against American citizens and military families, and against America's reputation. Bush/Cheney have poisoned the well, it will be a long, long time before our allies will trust the US Gov’t again!
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Aug 31, 2013
 
Who Benefits From A War Between The United States And Syria?

Someone wants to get the United States into a war with Syria very, very badly. Cui bono is an old Latin phrase that is still commonly used, and it roughly means "to whose benefit?" The key to figuring out who is really behind the push for war is to look at who will benefit from that war. If a full-blown war erupts between the United States and Syria, it will not be good for the United States, it will not be good for Israel, it will not be good for Syria, it will not be good for Iran and it will not be good for Hezbollah. The party that stands to benefit the most is Saudi Arabia, and they won't even be doing any of the fighting.

They have been pouring billions of dollars into the conflict in Syria, but so far they have not been successful in their attempts to overthrow the Assad regime. Now the Saudis are trying to play their trump card - the U.S. military. If the Saudis are successful, they will get to pit the two greatest long-term strategic enemies of Sunni Islam against each other - the U.S. and Israel on one side and Shia Islam on the other. In such a scenario, the more damage that both sides do to each other the happier the Sunnis will be.

There would be other winners from a U.S. war with Syria as well. For example, it is well-known that Qatar wants to run a natural gas pipeline out of the Persian Gulf, through Syria and into Europe. That is why Qatar has also been pouring billions of dollars into the civil war in Syria...

Read more at http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/who-benef...

I understand Obama's Harvard education was paid by a Saudi Prince...
MUQ

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Aug 31, 2013
 
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Hate to tell you. WTC towers did not free fall. You visiting those brainless truther sites, I rather watch them make chocolate covered bacon on FOX
If you drop a brick from top of WTC towers, it takes 14 seconds to fall to ground...

On 9/11 it took between 14.7 to 15 seconds for WTC to fall to the ground?

Which is the "closest term" to this Phenomenon? Is it not "free fall".

Just look back at the video and calculate time of fall from your watch..

Do the same same for WTC-7!!

Why you people do not want to know the Truth?

I am giving you evidence and all you have to do is raise stupid comments!!
MUQ

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Aug 31, 2013
 
Patriot wrote:
Who Benefits From A War Between The United States And Syria?

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Here is my answer to this query.
Serpent wrote:
MUQ, you sure like reading American articles.

I know that Americans are very smart and in America everybody is free to express their opinions without any fear of any retribution.

But in Muslim countries, you can not do that because harm could easily come to you..

Yeah for great Western people!!! We know how to build great societies!!

MUQ, why don't you post us some articles written by Muslims in Muslim countries?
We would like to compare the intelligence of these articles with Western articles that you like so much..

PS I know you are really jealous and envious of the West but try and give us a sample of middle eastern writings !!!

Just tell me a single country that got really benefited from events of 9/11 and resulting 12 years war?

Which is the name of that country?

USA?(The country which lost most and gained very little almost NOTHING, Three WTC Towers, Four jets, 3000 + dead in NY and 250 + army officers dead in Pentagon ….plus 4500 dead in Iraq war, 2000 + dead in Afghanistan, more than 100,000 injured, Trillions spent in the war, its economy suffering for past 12 years…and what they gained?)

Saudi Arabia?
Palestine?
Jordan?
Kuwait?
Qatar?
UAE?
Egypt?
Syria?
Yemen?
Afghanistan?
Pakistan?
India?
China?
UK?
France?
Germany?
Russia?
Australia?
Japan?
Turkey?
Libya?
Morocco?
Tunisia?
Algeria?





Any other country of Asia, Africa or Oceania ?

6. ONLY country which really benefited from events of 9/11 and ongoing wars in ME and Afghanistan was Israel!!

How dumb you people are, if you fail to realize this simple fact!!

7. How can I believe that you people are so intelligent and so mighty to create this mighty civlization?

May be you are a giant controlled by a little gnat that is controlling your brain and that gnat is that Zionist state of Isreal!!

8. Think what would have happened if US / Europe had not created that Zionist state in Palestine in 1917?

There would have been peace in ME, no more PLO, HAMAS, Al Qaeda, HIZBOLLAH and such organizations.

Nothing like 9/11 and so many acts of violence in all parts of world.

When would you people wake up as to find out who are your real enemies?

PS:

I do realize what great people you are, super intelligent, hard working, industrious, like fair play, want to bring peace to the world….

If it was not for you excessive and one sided love affair with Jews and Zionists, you would have achieved much more….

But one sided love affairs and one sided infatuations bring nothing but loss and sorrow and destructions, to individuals as well as to nations.
MUQ

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Aug 31, 2013
 
Why WTC Towers Collapsed?… Thermite Materials found in WTC Dust Part-5

RESULTS

1. Characterization of the Red/Gray Chips

Red/gray chips were found in all of the dust samples collected. An analysis of the chips was performed to assess the similarity of the chips and to determine the chemistry and materials that make up the chips. Fig.(2) displays photomicrographs of red/gray chips from each of the four WTC dust samples. Note the scale marker in each image as they were acquired at different magnifications. At approximately 2.5 mm in length, the chip in Fig.(2a) was one of the larger chips collected. The mass of this chip was approximately 0.7 mg.

All of the chips used in the study had a gray layer and a red layer and were attracted by a magnet. The inset image in Fig.(2d) shows the chip in cross section, which reveals the gray layer. The gray layer is also partially visible in Fig.(2b). Similarities between the samples are already evident from these photographs.

Fig.(3) shows three images for comparison of views of the same set of chips using different methods. Fig.(3a) is a VLM photomicrograph of a group of particles, which shows the red material and in some cases the adhering gray material. Fig.(3b, c) are, respectively, a secondary electron (SE) image and a backscattered electron (BSE) image of the same group of particles, using a scanning electron microscope (SEM) without a conductive coating over the sample.

It can be seen in the SE image that the red layer of the particles has very bright regions caused by a slight accumulation of charge under the electron beam, owing to the relatively poor conductivity of the red layer (see Discussion section).

The BSE image shows the red layer darker than the gray layer, indicating that the red layer is composed of material that has a relatively lower average atomic number than the gray layer.

A higher-magnification BSE image of the corner of one of the chips, shown in Fig.(4), allows for closer examination of the difference in grayscale intensity of the two layers and confirms the higher average atomic number of the gray layer. The red material also shows specks and other heterogeneities, in marked contrast to the smooth gray layer.

Newly fractured cross sections of red/gray chips from the four different dust samples are shown by BSE imaging in Fig.(5). These four cross sections are representative of all the red/gray chips studied from the dust samples. The BSE images illustrate the finding that all of the red layers studied contained small bright particles or grains characterized by a high average atomic number.

The size and presence of the particles was found to be consistent throughout the layers, but the concentration of the particles was found to vary locally, as can be seen from the images.

X-ray energy-dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS) analyses of both the red and gray layers from cross sections prepared from the four dust samples were performed and representative spectra are shown in Figs.(6, 7). The four spectra in Fig.(6) indicate that the gray layers are consistently characterized by high iron and oxygen content including a smaller amount of carbon.

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henry wrote:
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Obama should return the Nobel peace Price. He never earned it.
Europeans wanted him. they got him. Support him!

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