'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.
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UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>It out out! War HAwk Down, as movie goers get the jist, on well educate Americans knows about it and even some our Dumb American, not thing new!!
our US losing trillion USD dollar for wars, US is morally and Financially bankrupted!
A wounded beast is most dangerous.
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Nope, He still Lives.
You live for a myth but not reality.
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According to the whistle blowers Mark Klein, Russell Tice, All Americans are being spied on.
That is true.
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UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>It out out! War HAwk Down, as movie goers get the jist, on well educate Americans knows about it and even some our Dumb American, not thing new!!
our US losing trillion USD dollar for wars, US is morally and Financially bankrupted!
Yes that is true.
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Jul 20, 2013
 
Are All US people do is to BOAST WHAT USA has done, WHILE promoting China to be the second largest economy, without looking at the rest of the world?

US HAD DONE MORE violences and WARS to cause vast number of innocent lives ON EARTH. US had lost more soldiers than China's and Russia's for the past 50 years. TO THIS TIME, AT PRESENT, US had done badly and worse than the Russians did in Afghanistan.

US did not win World War II, but the Russians and Chinese won the wars. They were the Russians' and the Chinese's wars, but not of the US, while US got in very late in Europe. Hitler Nazis were to attack Russia and Japan invaded China when Mao stopped the internal fighting and that was why Japanese were losing with no more soldiers and to join in so were to withdraw, as it was no need to drop atomic bombs to, yet Japan would lose out.

Japan in those days as the world's second in economy with the fantastic high technology, has been the dumbest to make its sorrow today by joining US to focus on North Korea, investing too much and buying Chinese too much, yet China'S military expansion and movement have caused concerns to Japan and some others in the region (but not North Korea to India, Vietnam and others) and to the world.

Japan's biggest failure has been LACKING the proper direction as following Bush's calling Axis-OF-EVIL, BY taking on North Korea

US Ivy League graduates went to work for the CIA, yet had come up with a lot of wrong and false data and information.

BUT the nature of being infinite big mouthing by telling that this world is this and that stable and glory because of it, is purely the fallacy of self-proclaiming as of not true facts, by not viewing the destructive effects done as an International outlaw in modern times.

You people don't get it--USA is exactly tearing down freedom nowadays within a democracy in the example of hacking and spying, but not enhancing freedom and liberty rights, and how the democracy is it when majority of Americans are against NSA snooping, not to mention vast world public also feel that way more than US people?

What freedom USA has given, to whom, with what democracy?
Germany wanted more medals in Olympics and bigger production by tearing down Berlin Wall to be one democratic Germany , as you think it came from US Reagan or Kennedy to send them democracy consultant. Everybody knows how to do democracy without USA and others else,as it has been how has been done in the world.

Gorbachev wanted to get rich while Baltic states,like Estonia , etc, wanted their own cultures,so that USSR was folded up for their own making democracy of Russia, as you think it came from Reagan again.

What freedom was to Vietnam as US was a total disaster since lost more than 56,000 soldiers in Vietnam war?

What freedom and democracy were to Iraq, when today is still the disaster of every day bombing in Iraq after 11 years, generated from Bush lying about WMD to invade Iraq?

You people appear to say that People's grand-father clocks and houses they build, are coming from USA.

You keep telling third world burning villages, without mentioning USA burned more villages globally and inside too in the old time wild west chaos, and by assaulting tens of millions around the world in last 50 years.

WHILE you say the world this and that freedom and democracy are from USA as is not true, but you neglect how great damages it has done, from Vietnam to Iraq to itself.


The democracy of the world and US (would) oppose Obama as the radical Neo-extremist in his doing.

US is facing stiff competition, by just looking at the Obama health care-- being ranked AT 27 POSITION. US enhances China to this point of embarrassing itself, while US is no way it ranks among top 10 in many areas.

Either India or South Korea or JAPAN and Australia GET TOGETHER WITH CHINA, US is in no way that it can get ahead. If Russia joins in, that would be much worse for US.
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As we repeatedly focus on wealth-inequality in the US, just four hundred persons in the US have and own as much in assets and income as the bottom 50% of the rest of us. Worldwide, the richest 300 persons on Earth have more money than poorest 3 Billion! It used to be that European royalty like the Habsburg, the Medici and the Romanov and so on, had all the money while collecting taxes off their subjects wile keeping them poor and uneducated. Countless peasant revolutions and bloody wars have been fought to rid ourselves from under the yoke of the mega wealthy and inbred (Haemophilia) European royalty. Times have changed; someone came up with the concept of capitalism that actually worked quite nicely for a couple of centuries. Unfortunately, the beneficiaries of the system have re-established themselves, by passing laws and regulations that favors them as the new royalty keeping the peasants in check! Supposedly, the truth can set you free, but for today’s mega rich, deceit holds the key to money, fame, revenge and power!
Excellent post frank!

Wealth, Income, and Power
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/we...
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Jul 20, 2013
 
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WOW, how did you find one of my old posts?

Maybe you are part of NSA henry?

LOL

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henry wrote:
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You live for a myth but not reality.
John 3:16

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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If the constitution was written today.
The Constitution was written in a world without industrial mass production or interchangeable parts. It was a world without artificially-powered transportation or automated machines of any kind. It was a world where the means of production were distributed among the many, by necessity; hands were the only means of production, and each person only got one pair.
It was a world where healthcare that could actually save your life did not exist; “healthcare” was largely leeches and Mercury-based cures, surgery without anesthesia or antiseptics. It was a world where most people grew or hunted their own food lived next to somebody who did.
It was a world where the concept of outsourcing labor or importing goods from China en masse was absolutely ridiculous. It was a world where any contact with another continent involved several months of treacherous voyage across an ocean without the benefit of electricity or steam power. There were no flushing toilettes, no power looms, no bicycles, no electric power, no precision laths etc, etc.
There was no such thing as mass production of goods. At the time our Constitution was written, everything was hand-made. A “factory” was a place where a lot of people sat in a room and did hand work. Sewing machines didn’t exist. Neither did cotton gins.
In 1787, even the concept of interchangeable parts was foreign. When Eli Whitney first demonstrated –some fourteen years after the Constitution was written– that it was theoretically possible for unskilled laborers instead of craftsmen to assemble guns from interchangeable parts, his audience was astounded. The audience, including John Adams and then-President Thomas Jefferson, was so astounded by the concept that at first they didn’t believe it was possible.
And rightly so, it turned out: Whitney had rigged his demonstration by covertly marking certain pieces that were meant to go together. This was necessary because technology was not yet good enough in 1801 to make truly interchangeable parts... It would be another 50 years before the steam-engine replaced animal labor. That should tell you something about how late-18th century technology stacked up to ours today. Let’s think for a minute about the pre-Whitney world for which the Constitution was created.

So let’s keep this in mind when we talk about the Founding Fathers’ intentions for our country. The Constitution would doubtless be much different if the same people had written it today. The NRA, with the help of gunloons, has been beating a dead horse to an unrecognizable pulp!! Technology has made the 2nd amendment redundant. Unless one agrees to change the 2nd amendment that will give every man and woman access to the latest in cutting-edge weaponry of mass-destruction.
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Seeing the lift wells are the cornerstone of the building supplying structural support, how was it possible for them to collapse so quickly because they are solid concrete walls from the foundations to the roof ?
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You do not know that WTC buildings were made of steel columns and bars?

Then outer panels were fit, to give it a Multistory look.

It was not made of RCC, that is why the collapse of those Massive Steel columns is the more amazing.

How a jet strike and fuel related fire for 60-90 minutes,“melted” those massive steel columns?

This is the “truth” which NIST and official agencies are trying to avoid.

They just point fingers at “video footage”…saying we do not know how it happened, but it did happen as the video shows!!

They should have been “first” to investigate it fully, so that same thing does not happen to other buildings.
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Mr. AB s have you "No Comment on my last post"? Should I proceed with next page?
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Linktv org wrote:
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John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Was not the God' love a "Li'le" late? What about generations from Adam to the Son of God? Did not God love them?
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Was not the God' love a "Li'le" late? What about generations from Adam to the Son of God? Did not God love them?
100% correct and TRUE!

God saved them also!

God is never late and never wrong!

Salvation was in God's plan from the beginning!

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spocko wrote:
If the constitution was written today.
The Constitution was written in a world without industrial mass production or interchangeable parts. It was a world without artificially-powered transportation or automated machines of any kind. It was a world where the means of production were distributed among the many, by necessity; hands were the only means of production, and each person only got one pair.
It was a world where healthcare that could actually save your life did not exist; “healthcare” was largely leeches and Mercury-based cures, surgery without anesthesia or antiseptics. It was a world where most people grew or hunted their own food lived next to somebody who did.
It was a world where the concept of outsourcing labor or importing goods from China en masse was absolutely ridiculous. It was a world where any contact with another continent involved several months of treacherous voyage across an ocean without the benefit of electricity or steam power. There were no flushing toilettes, no power looms, no bicycles, no electric power, no precision laths etc, etc.
There was no such thing as mass production of goods. At the time our Constitution was written, everything was hand-made. A “factory” was a place where a lot of people sat in a room and did hand work. Sewing machines didn’t exist. Neither did cotton gins.
In 1787, even the concept of interchangeable parts was foreign. When Eli Whitney first demonstrated –some fourteen years after the Constitution was written– that it was theoretically possible for unskilled laborers instead of craftsmen to assemble guns from interchangeable parts, his audience was astounded. The audience, including John Adams and then-President Thomas Jefferson, was so astounded by the concept that at first they didn’t believe it was possible.
And rightly so, it turned out: Whitney had rigged his demonstration by covertly marking certain pieces that were meant to go together. This was necessary because technology was not yet good enough in 1801 to make truly interchangeable parts... It would be another 50 years before the steam-engine replaced animal labor. That should tell you something about how late-18th century technology stacked up to ours today. Let’s think for a minute about the pre-Whitney world for which the Constitution was created.
So let’s keep this in mind when we talk about the Founding Fathers’ intentions for our country. The Constitution would doubtless be much different if the same people had written it today. The NRA, with the help of gunloons, has been beating a dead horse to an unrecognizable pulp!! Technology has made the 2nd amendment redundant. Unless one agrees to change the 2nd amendment that will give every man and woman access to the latest in cutting-edge weaponry of mass-destruction.
The principles enshrined in the Constitution do not change over time. But the application of those principles must evolve as society changes and as experience informs our understanding.
I.e. as technological means of surveillance became more sophisticated, for example, the meaning of “search” in the Fourth Amendment came to include invasions of privacy that do not involve a physical trespass. Equally, as fire arms technology changes the meaning of “to bear arms” takes on a whole new dimension. Constitutional interpretation is not a mechanical enterprise. It calls upon the public and the courts to consider text, history, precedent, values, changing social, economic, technological, and cultural conditions, and the practical realities of the times.
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Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.

If they did, they would have impeached:

LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.

Nixon for Watergate.

Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.

Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
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Linktv org wrote:
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100% correct and TRUE!
God saved them also!
God is never late and never wrong!
Salvation was in God's plan from the beginning!
How did God save them?

By toiling hard?

Was not God partial towards Post jesus and Pre Jesus humans?

PS:

I do not say "believers"? Humans!!
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Mr. AB s, here I post next page...!!

911 Reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job. PART-: 4

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-12/911-reason-...

The inexplicable (and ignored) collapse of WTC 7:

23. If the destruction of the World Trade Center’s North and South towers was nothing more than magicians pulling fluffy white rabbits out of silk black hats, World Trade Center 7 is where the cards tumbled out of their sleeves, revealing the invisible strings that brought this great illusion to life.
24. The horrifying images of two commercial jets slamming into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center largely dominate our memories of 9/11. Yet many people forget about, or never heard of, World Trade Center 7, which was a 47-storey, 200-meter-high skyscraper that was never hit by a jet, yet crumpled to the ground like a house of cards a full 7 hours after the collapse of the North Tower. So let us reiterate: there were three destroyed skyscrapers on 9/11, but just two commercial jets.

25. And just like the first two towers, WTC 7 dropped at almost free-fall speed. Although this building was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of WTC North tower (a large gash was visible on the building’s exposed side), and was on fire in isolated sections for several hours, the extent of the physical damage seems entirely inconsistent with the final catastrophic result.
26. An increasing number of researchers are arriving at the conclusion that Building 7, like the towers, was brought down with thermitic material. Indeed, at the base of the WTC 7 towers, as was the case with the North and South towers, the presence of molten metal in large quantities was found. But more on that "theory" later.
27. David Chandler, a humble physics teacher armed with nothing more than inexpensive software and a zero budget, provided a far more realistic analysis of the collapse of the WTC 7 building than NIST did with its multimillion-dollar government budget.
Basically, Chandler accuses NIST of not only doing a “sloppy job” in its analysis of the collapse of WTC 7, but goes so far as calling it “beyond incompetence; it is a… blatant lie.”

28.“NIST’s method tells us nothing about the nature of the motion itself,” says the physicist.“They merely assume uniform acceleration over a time interval in which it is clear that the acceleration is not uniform. Mislabeling their assumption to be constant speed indicates sloppy work. But asserting uniform acceleration for an interval where the building sits nearly motionless for several seconds and then drops for several seconds in free fall is beyond incompetence, it is a… blatant lie.”

29.“The average acceleration is a meaningless quantity,” Chandler explains.“It is the instantaneous acceleration that is significant because the acceleration at any moment is an indication of the forces at work. To measure and publish a meaningless average acceleration, when sufficient data and a multimillion dollar budget are available… constitutes either gross incompetence or an attempt to obfuscate the issue.”

Your comments Mr. AB s?
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MUQ wrote:
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How did God save them?
By toiling hard?
Was not God partial towards Post jesus and Pre Jesus humans?
PS:
I do not say "believers"? Humans!!
MUQ my friend I hope this answers your question.

JESUS said:

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Matthew 22:37-40

37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
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MUQ wrote:
Mr. AB s, here I post next page...!!
911 Reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job. PART-: 4
http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-12/911-reason-...
The inexplicable (and ignored) collapse of WTC 7:
23. If the destruction of the World Trade Center’s North and South towers was nothing more than magicians pulling fluffy white rabbits out of silk black hats, World Trade Center 7 is where the cards tumbled out of their sleeves, revealing the invisible strings that brought this great illusion to life.
24. The horrifying images of two commercial jets slamming into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center largely dominate our memories of 9/11. Yet many people forget about, or never heard of, World Trade Center 7, which was a 47-storey, 200-meter-high skyscraper that was never hit by a jet, yet crumpled to the ground like a house of cards a full 7 hours after the collapse of the North Tower. So let us reiterate: there were three destroyed skyscrapers on 9/11, but just two commercial jets.
25. And just like the first two towers, WTC 7 dropped at almost free-fall speed. Although this building was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of WTC North tower (a large gash was visible on the building’s exposed side), and was on fire in isolated sections for several hours, the extent of the physical damage seems entirely inconsistent with the final catastrophic result.
26. An increasing number of researchers are arriving at the conclusion that Building 7, like the towers, was brought down with thermitic material. Indeed, at the base of the WTC 7 towers, as was the case with the North and South towers, the presence of molten metal in large quantities was found. But more on that "theory" later.
27. David Chandler, a humble physics teacher armed with nothing more than inexpensive software and a zero budget, provided a far more realistic analysis of the collapse of the WTC 7 building than NIST did with its multimillion-dollar government budget.
Basically, Chandler accuses NIST of not only doing a “sloppy job” in its analysis of the collapse of WTC 7, but goes so far as calling it “beyond incompetence; it is a… blatant lie.”
28.“NIST’s method tells us nothing about the nature of the motion itself,” says the physicist.“They merely assume uniform acceleration over a time interval in which it is clear that the acceleration is not uniform. Mislabeling their assumption to be constant speed indicates sloppy work. But asserting uniform acceleration for an interval where the building sits nearly motionless for several seconds and then drops for several seconds in free fall is beyond incompetence, it is a… blatant lie.”
29.“The average acceleration is a meaningless quantity,” Chandler explains.“It is the instantaneous acceleration that is significant because the acceleration at any moment is an indication of the forces at work. To measure and publish a meaningless average acceleration, when sufficient data and a multimillion dollar budget are available… constitutes either gross incompetence or an attempt to obfuscate the issue.”
Your comments Mr. AB s?
You need to update your links.

Error 404 again.
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MUQ wrote:
Mr. AB s, here I post next page...!!
911 Reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job. PART-: 4
http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-12/911-reason-...
The inexplicable (and ignored) collapse of WTC 7:
23. If the destruction of the World Trade Center’s North and South towers was nothing more than magicians pulling fluffy white rabbits out of silk black hats, World Trade Center 7 is where the cards tumbled out of their sleeves, revealing the invisible strings that brought this great illusion to life.
24. The horrifying images of two commercial jets slamming into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center largely dominate our memories of 9/11. Yet many people forget about, or never heard of, World Trade Center 7, which was a 47-storey, 200-meter-high skyscraper that was never hit by a jet, yet crumpled to the ground like a house of cards a full 7 hours after the collapse of the North Tower. So let us reiterate: there were three destroyed skyscrapers on 9/11, but just two commercial jets.
25. And just like the first two towers, WTC 7 dropped at almost free-fall speed. Although this building was damaged by falling debris from the collapse of WTC North tower (a large gash was visible on the building’s exposed side), and was on fire in isolated sections for several hours, the extent of the physical damage seems entirely inconsistent with the final catastrophic result.
26. An increasing number of researchers are arriving at the conclusion that Building 7, like the towers, was brought down with thermitic material. Indeed, at the base of the WTC 7 towers, as was the case with the North and South towers, the presence of molten metal in large quantities was found. But more on that "theory" later.
27. David Chandler, a humble physics teacher armed with nothing more than inexpensive software and a zero budget, provided a far more realistic analysis of the collapse of the WTC 7 building than NIST did with its multimillion-dollar government budget.
Basically, Chandler accuses NIST of not only doing a “sloppy job” in its analysis of the collapse of WTC 7, but goes so far as calling it “beyond incompetence; it is a… blatant lie.”
28.“NIST’s method tells us nothing about the nature of the motion itself,” says the physicist.“They merely assume uniform acceleration over a time interval in which it is clear that the acceleration is not uniform. Mislabeling their assumption to be constant speed indicates sloppy work. But asserting uniform acceleration for an interval where the building sits nearly motionless for several seconds and then drops for several seconds in free fall is beyond incompetence, it is a… blatant lie.”
29.“The average acceleration is a meaningless quantity,” Chandler explains.“It is the instantaneous acceleration that is significant because the acceleration at any moment is an indication of the forces at work. To measure and publish a meaningless average acceleration, when sufficient data and a multimillion dollar budget are available… constitutes either gross incompetence or an attempt to obfuscate the issue.”
Your comments Mr. AB s?
9/11 Model Backs Up Tower Collapse Theory
http://tinyurl.com/ywthn4 Jun 20, 2007
A two-year study of the World Trade Center Towers’ collapse by Purdue University has reaffirmed the findings of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which suggested that the buildings crashed under their own weight after crucial support columns and fireproofing were damaged or destroyed. The research team released an animation of the first plane’s collision to visualize their research.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/2...

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