'The War Is Not Over'

There are 20 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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ABs

Decatur, GA

#289165 Jul 22, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Mr. AB s, here I post next page...!!
...24. The horrifying images of two commercial jets slamming into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center largely dominate our memories of 9/11. Yet many people forget about, or never heard of, World Trade Center 7, which was a 47-storey, 200-meter-high skyscraper that was never hit by a jet, yet crumpled to the ground like a house of cards a full 7 hours after the collapse of the North Tower. So let us reiterate: there were three destroyed skyscrapers on 9/11, but just two commercial jets.
25. And just like the first two towers, WTC 7 dropped at almost free-fall speed...
Your comments Mr. AB s?
Couldn't resist these two gems...actually 8 buildings collapsed or partially collapsed...and almost does not equal freefall does it? For example, your sister was almost pregnant...does not equal your sister is pregnant does it?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#289167 Jul 22, 2013
Ab s wrote:
1.

Are you saying that there were demolition explosives on every floor below where the plane hit? Now that was some really good planning and secret keeping by those few experts that were involved, and not only one building but 8...I am very impressed with their ability to keep secrets...very impressed indeed...
Does near freefall equal freefall in your expert opinion as a sanitation engineer?
Did moonrocks fall at freefall when moon split you think?

2.

But comrade MUQ you never did answer my three questions and here you are up to 26 of yours...that is hardly fair is it?
Again, here we go...

First question you DID NOT answer...how much manpower would be required to prep 3 to 8 buildings for demolition while concealing this from the public?

Second question you did not answer...what impact did a 800 Foot per second 30 foot diameter aluminum sphere loaded with jet fuel have on structural failure?

Third question you did not answer...?

3.

No worry about other buildings...if you take out the perpetrators of such allah designated jihad before they strike again, yes? This seems to have been much more successful...go after the serpent's head to eliminate the serpent's strike again...

4.

I concede to my most esteemed conservatively moderate liberally independent colleague from New York...
9/11 Model Backs Up Tower Collapse Theory
http://tinyurl.com/ywthn4 Jun 20, 2007
A two-year study of the World Trade Center Towers’ collapse by Purdue University has reaffirmed the findings of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which suggested that the buildings crashed under their own weight after crucial support columns and fireproofing were damaged or destroyed. The research team released an animation of the first plane’s collision to visualize their research.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/2 ...

What say you comrade?
Ans.

1. It is a job for those who are in "demolition business". It was the job for NIST and investigating agencies.

But if they do such "major investigation" based on TV and Video footage, what else we can say?

2. First question: It does not need all that manpower to rig buildings "marked for demolition" using specialty material.

3 Second Question: Whatever Impact was caused by the Jetliners, the buildings were "designed" to withstand it! That is the statement from WTC Tower designers!!

4. Third Question: Does not need any answer.

5. I know all about these "computer model simulations" of WTC…

These are gimmicks, you do not know what parameters they set in the computer software!!

That is how they inserted those 10,000 pages of "useless info" in the NIST report.

It seems you are just a novice in these matters and your mind is "permanently stuck" in the splitting of moon.

The ONLY way to demonstrate the fall of WTC towers is to make a scale model (1:50, 1:100) and show how it falls to ground with a single impact of Jet and fuel related fire in an "official building" not an explosive warehouse!!

PS:

Meanwhile it is fun to watch you making every trick in the book and not saying "Yes NIST and CNN and FOX news made a mistake"
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289168 Jul 23, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why give a peace treaty to a defeated nation? I do have two agreements to throw your way though hank...what are Potsdam and the Two plus 4 agreements? By all means the floor is yours, educate me...
Germany is not a free Country. Germany has no peace treaty. For Germany for the UN it is a hostile Country. At any time Germany can be attacked by the Allied for whatever reason. Germany "lives" at the mercy of the Allied.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289169 Jul 23, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Honest Capitalism is noble and good.
Pay To Play system is corrupt with Wall Street and the prostitutes in Congress.
Of course it is silly to speak of a "noble capitalism". There was never such a Thing at all. Superprofits was the sole purpose in all its historic times. That means capitalism is a suicide System especially in the nuclear Age.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289170 Jul 23, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For the xtime: god never existed.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289171 Jul 23, 2013
frank wrote:
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The principles enshrined in the Constitution do not change over time. But the application of those principles must evolve as society changes and as experience informs our understanding.
I.e. as technological means of surveillance became more sophisticated, for example, the meaning of “search” in the Fourth Amendment came to include invasions of privacy that do not involve a physical trespass. Equally, as fire arms technology changes the meaning of “to bear arms” takes on a whole new dimension. Constitutional interpretation is not a mechanical enterprise. It calls upon the public and the courts to consider text, history, precedent, values, changing social, economic, technological, and cultural conditions, and the practical realities of the times.
There is only one constitution for the US: the might of the billionairs.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289173 Jul 23, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
...2. First question: It does not need all that manpower to rig buildings "marked for demolition" using specialty material.

...12. It seems you are just a novice in these matters and your mind is "permanently stuck" in the splitting of moon.

...17. The ONLY way to demonstrate the fall of WTC towers is to make a scale model (1:50, 1:100) and show how it falls to ground with a single impact of Jet and fuel related fire in an "official building" not an explosive warehouse!!
...2. Must admit you got my attention with this answer, please explain this specialty material...what kind of specialty material? And how did NO ONE notice the prep crews?

...12. It intrigues me that the entire philosophy of the world's largest religion is based on something even MORE impossible than 9-11, yet just because you were born by muslims, you are chicken to dispute this fabrication of a moon splitting in half, why is that? Afraid for your life? The religion of fear perhaps? Mighty white of you people to free that woman for getting herself RAPED and jailed by the way...

...17. No need for a scale model, it has all ready been repeated...two jets, two buildings, two identical collapses...now perhaps a scale of wtc7, wtc6, wtc5, wtc4, wtc3 and 1/5th of the pentagon would make you happy, yes?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289174 Jul 23, 2013
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
For the xtime: god never existed.
BUT IF HE DID, hank, he loves you...
who

Basingstoke, UK

#289175 Jul 23, 2013
ABs wrote:
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BUT IF HE DID, hank, he loves you...
Hello ABs...long time no see.
How you been?
Opensecrets org

West Sayville, NY

#289176 Jul 23, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
I concede to my most esteemed conservatively moderate liberally independent colleague from New York...
9/11 Model Backs Up Tower Collapse Theory
http://tinyurl.com/ywthn4 Jun 20, 2007
A two-year study of the World Trade Center Towers’ collapse by Purdue University has reaffirmed the findings of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which suggested that the buildings crashed under their own weight after crucial support columns and fireproofing were damaged or destroyed. The research team released an animation of the first plane’s collision to visualize their research.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/2...
What say you comrade?
Thanks for your kind words ABs.

I think our friend is taking too much Middle Eastern Sun!

LOL
Opensecrets org

West Sayville, NY

#289177 Jul 23, 2013
henry wrote:
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Of course it is silly to speak of a "noble capitalism". There was never such a Thing at all. Superprofits was the sole purpose in all its historic times. That means capitalism is a suicide System especially in the nuclear Age.
After Wall Street stole and robbed in 1929, Glass/Steagall was implemented and prohibited them to some degree, but capitalism flourished and most Americans benefited.

In the 1950s, 1960s and even 1970s primarily only the Husband worked in the family and provided for all the needs.

The Husband retired when 65 with a nice pension and Social Security.

Today all those days are gone.

We have to get back to fairness instead of more greed.

=========

Can You Afford To Retire? Video / http://tinyurl.com/h8xdx
The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/retir...

Opensecrets org

West Sayville, NY

#289178 Jul 23, 2013
ABs, On second thought I think our friend does have some merit.

I never believed the 9/11 Commission Report but I still never believed it was an inside job.

Listen to Lee Hamilton answers.

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Lee Hamilton: "We do not claim in this report to have written the final truth"

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-09-01/lee-ham...
ABs

Fruithurst, AL

#289179 Jul 23, 2013
who wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello ABs...long time no see.
How you been?
Well looky hear, if it isn't my favorite poncy toff wanker from across the pond..so great to hear from you old friend and hope life is treating you well. Great show last weekend at historic if not secular racist Muirfield was it not? Great to see the lefty wank from our west coast bring home the jug...

Sowhat have you been up to, mee palley?
ABs

Fruithurst, AL

#289180 Jul 23, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
ABs, On second thought I think our friend does have some merit.
I never believed the 9/11 Commission Report but I still never believed it was an inside job.
Listen to Lee Hamilton answers.
----------
Lee Hamilton: "We do not claim in this report to have written the final truth"
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-09-01/lee-ham...
I have no doubt that comrade MUQ has merit...but eventually the truth will come out and once again...so far...nothing has come out, not even about the inside job of wtc7 demo...not a peep...nada, zip, zilda...
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#289181 Jul 23, 2013
911 Reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job. PART-: 5

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-12/911-reason-...

Collapse of WTC (Contd.)

31. But even if we accept the official version, which says that WTC 7 was “compromised by falling debris” from the North and South Towers, as Popular Mechanics mechanically argued, how is it possible that the building came down in “elegant”(as one demolition expert put it to me) controlled-demolition fashion?
32. Demolishing a building is a veritable science that requires the precise placement of explosive charges at carefully selected points so that the targeted structure drops into its own footprint without damaging any other buildings in the vicinity. This is exactly what WTC 7, as well as the monstrous North and South towers, politely did with tremendous respect for their surroundings.
33. Having a large building drop in textbook fashion without the assistance of professionals must be to demolitionists what a monkey that sat down to a typewriter and hammered out perfect Shakespeare in a fortnight would be to literary agents. In other words, highly unlikely.
34. Compounding the mystery behind the inexplicable collapse of the 47-storey WTC 7 building, which housed Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management, this major event (the collapse) is never mentioned once in the government’s 9/11 Commission report.

35. If anybody holds out hope that somebody someday will analyze the steel columns from the collapse for evidence of explosives, better not hold your breath: the wreckage was quickly whisked out of the United States to Asia where it was melted down. Indeed, we are probably buying Chinese-made toys made out of WTC evidence without even knowing it. Thus, NIST’s threadbare investigative efforts have been compared to “conducting an autopsy without the corpse.”
36.“Anyone serious about solving a crime,” comments Chandler,“knows the importance of physical evidence. Yet here (at Ground Zero), the crime scene has been scrubbed, the evidence destroyed, and the investigation delayed for years.”

“Destroying a crime scene is itself a criminal act,” Chandler concludes.

“Destroying the steel has absolutely no justification except to cover up the cause of the collapse.”

Your comments Mr. AB s?
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#289182 Jul 24, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
<quoted text>
After Wall Street stole and robbed in 1929, Glass/Steagall was implemented and prohibited them to some degree, but capitalism flourished and most Americans benefited.
In the 1950s, 1960s and even 1970s primarily only the Husband worked in the family and provided for all the needs.
The Husband retired when 65 with a nice pension and Social Security.
Today all those days are gone.
We have to get back to fairness instead of more greed.
=========
Can You Afford To Retire? Video / http://tinyurl.com/h8xdx
The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/retir...
For the xtime: Capitalism means war and this means superprofit and this means finally suicide of the System. In the nuclear Age of course the end of humanity.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#289183 Jul 24, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
Most in Congress DO NOT BELIEVE in the US Constitution.
If they did, they would have impeached:
LBJ for lying about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Nixon for Watergate.
Reagan/Bush for Iran/Contra.
Bush/Cheney for WMD in Iraq.
Since the beginning of the USA they made war against the native Indian Population and finally destroyed them almost. War was the final logic of this capitalist Nation. In the nuclear Age this means the end of the human race.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#289184 Jul 24, 2013
spocko wrote:
As we repeatedly focus on wealth-inequality in the US, just four hundred persons in the US have and own as much in assets and income as the bottom 50% of the rest of us. Worldwide, the richest 300 persons on Earth have more money than poorest 3 Billion! It used to be that European royalty like the Habsburg, the Medici and the Romanov and so on, had all the money while collecting taxes off their subjects wile keeping them poor and uneducated. Countless peasant revolutions and bloody wars have been fought to rid ourselves from under the yoke of the mega wealthy and inbred (Haemophilia) European royalty. Times have changed; someone came up with the concept of capitalism that actually worked quite nicely for a couple of centuries. Unfortunately, the beneficiaries of the system have re-established themselves, by passing laws and regulations that favors them as the new royalty keeping the peasants in check! Supposedly, the truth can set you free, but for today’s mega rich, deceit holds the key to money, fame, revenge and power!
With the nuclear Age the humanity is on its end. The AKWs are deadly and we don`t even Need a nuclear war but we will have one!
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#289185 Jul 24, 2013
ABs wrote:
Please stop the muslim on muslim violence and murder NOW...how can Islam principle based on a split moon take over the world if your peoples can't get along, comrade MUQ?
An average of 6,000 Syrians are fleeing their war-ravaged country every day, causing the world's worst refugee crisis since the Rwandan genocide, the United Nations warns. The UN's refugee chief says the outflow of refugees has escalated at "a frightening rate" since the beginning of this year, causing a "crushing impact" on neighboring countries including Turkey and Lebanon, the BBC reports. A Security Council meeting was also told that the conflict is claiming some 5,000 lives a month.
The world is "not only watching the destruction of a country but also of its people," the UN's aid chief said, warning that 6.8 million Syrians—half of them children—are in urgent need of humanitarian aid. "The security, economic, political, social, development, and humanitarian consequences of this crisis are extremely grave and its human impact immeasurable in terms of the long-term trauma and emotional impact on this and future generations of Syrians," she said. Syria's ambassador to the UN, meanwhile, claimed the regime was doing "everything possible to shoulder its responsibility and its duty to its people."
In the nuclear Age the beginning of the end of humanity is now a fact.
Opensecrets org

West Sayville, NY

#289186 Jul 24, 2013
ABs wrote:
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I have no doubt that comrade MUQ has merit...but eventually the truth will come out and once again...so far...nothing has come out, not even about the inside job of wtc7 demo...not a peep...nada, zip, zilda...
I agree the silence is deafening.

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