'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276625 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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henry

Germany

#289220 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
Bush Sought ‘Way’ To Invade Iraq?
O'Neill Tells '60 Minutes' Iraq Was 'Topic A ' 8 Months Before 9-11
Jan. 11, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/9jqge
CBS) A year ago, Paul O'Neill was fired from his job as George Bush's Treasury Secretary for disagreeing too many times with the president's policy on tax cuts.
In the book, O’Neill says that the president did not make decisions in a methodical way: there was no free-flow of ideas or open debate.
At cabinet meetings, he says the president was "like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people. There is no discernible connection," forcing top officials to act "on little more than hunches about what the president might think."
This is what O'Neill says happened at his first hour-long, one-on-one meeting with Mr. Bush:“I went in with a long list of things to talk about, and I thought to engage on and as the book says, I was surprised that it turned out me talking, and the president just listening … As I recall, it was mostly a monologue.”
He also says that President Bush was disengaged, at least on domestic issues, and that disturbed him. And he says that wasn't his experience when he worked as a top official under Presidents Nixon and Ford, or the way he ran things when he was chairman of Alcoa.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60m...
Alcoa? Is that related with alcohol??
henry

Germany

#289221 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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Very true henry but it does not only apply to the USA.
Throughout history Empires always conquered Nations from
time immemorial.
The world once was destroyed by water and the next could be fire.
Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
henry

Germany

#289222 Jul 26, 2013
ABs wrote:
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BUT IF HE DID, hank, he loves you...
You amuse me like a 3-year-old child.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289223 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Alcoa? Is that related with alcohol??
Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill is the truth teller and Bush / Cheney are the Liars.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289224 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
Absolutely heard of it.

It's in the Bible.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289225 Jul 26, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Fair and balanced?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
According to Richard Clarke who was there, Clinton did much more about al Qaeda, and Bush was asleep at the wheel.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289226 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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After Wall Street stole and robbed in 1929, Glass/Steagall was implemented and prohibited them to some degree, but capitalism flourished and most Americans benefited.
In the 1950s, 1960s and even 1970s primarily only the Husband worked in the family and provided for all the needs.
The Husband retired when 65 with a nice pension and Social Security.
Today all those days are gone.
We have to get back to fairness instead of more greed.
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Can You Afford To Retire? Video / http://tinyurl.com/h8xdx
The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/retir...
Things have changed for the US and for capitalism as a whole. The super rich are on the looser trend and the rest of the "Family" too, which calls itself humanity. There is no way out on the nuclear Age. BTW Forget all These phony religions.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289227 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Things have changed for the US and for capitalism as a whole. The super rich are on the looser trend and the rest of the "Family" too, which calls itself humanity. There is no way out on the nuclear Age. BTW Forget all These phony religions.
The Nuclear Genie has been out of the bottle for many many many years now.

It is no coincidence that the whole Middle East is up in turmoil and Israel is surrounded by it.

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Nuclear Black Markets: Pakistan, A.Q. Khan and the rise of proliferation networks - A net assessment / 02 May 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/mp76j7q
This IISS Strategic Dossier on nuclear black markets provides a comprehensive assessment of the Pakistani nuclear programme from which the Khan network emerged, the network’s proliferation activities, and the illicit trade in fissile materials.
http://www.iiss.org/en/publications/strategic...

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The CIA provided a stream of accurate reports to the Reagan / Bush administration that Pakistan’s Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was making nuclear weapons-grade uranium throughout the 1980’s. Reagan / Bush did absolutely nothing to stop it because Pakistani ISI was helping Usama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and Taliban to oust the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Russians wanted to control Afghanistan for future oil and gas pipelines from the Caspian Sea Oil and Gas Region.

Now fast forward to October 2001, CIA questioned two senior Pakistani scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Chaudry Abdul Majid and they said Pro-Taliban feelings extend beyond the Pakistani Army, the ISI, it is right into Pakistan’s nuclear-weapons laboratories. Dr. A.Q. Khan confessed that he helped with the Pakistani government assistance, to sell nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. These Pakistani nuclear scientists have close ties to radical Islamic terrorists groups.

George “Ignorant Iraqi Oil” Bush did not do anything about Pakistan’s government selling nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. The CIA had 100% proof of this and George “Incompetent” Bush came out publicly with the truth on October 16, 2002, only 5 days after the Congress voted for Military Force against Iraq. Ignorant Bush also sold F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.

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Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289228 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
How the Bush administration let North Korea get nukes.
On Oct. 4, 2002, officials from the U.S. State Department flew to Pyongyang, the capital of North Korea, and confronted Kim Jong-il's foreign ministry with evidence that Kim had acquired centrifuges for processing highly enriched uranium, which could be used for building nuclear weapons. To the Americans' surprise, the North Koreans conceded. It was an unsettling revelation, coming just as the Bush administration was gearing up for a confrontation with Iraq. This new threat wasn't imminent; processing uranium is a tedious task; Kim Jong-il was almost certainly years away from grinding enough of the stuff to make an atomic bomb.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/200...
henry

Rosa, Germany

#289230 Jul 26, 2013
ABs wrote:
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This is no way to treat a billionaire...
Not so fast with that cash, Lefty...
According to a report by Forbes magazine, Phil Mickelson will sacrifice 61% of his earnings for winning both the 2013 British Open Championship and the Scottish Open, all of which will go in taxes to the British and U.S. governments and to the State of California.
Great Britain still collects taxes in Scotland, where the Open Championship was held this year.(Scotland will start collecting its own taxes in 2016.)
The explanation for how Mickelson’s tax rate can get to 61% is decently long and involved, including parts on escalating tax rates and also the fact that the “UK is one of few countries that collects taxes on endorsement income for non-resident athletes that compete in Britain.” Forty five percent of Mickelson’s winnings will go to Great Britain, with 13% going to California and the remaining going to the United States government.
The long and short is that 61% will go to taxes, and that’s before Mickelson pays his caddie, pays for his hotel and expenses, pays his agent, etc. All in, Mickelson will probably walk away with about 30% of the money he earned.
Doubling the pain? Mickelson also won the Scottish Open the week before the Open Championship, which will be taxed at the same rate. For winning both tournaments, Mickelson earned £1,445,000, or about $2,167,500. After taxes, he’ll take home $842,700, with a bit over $1.3 million going to taxes. We assume all of the money taxed by Britain will go directly to the Royal Baby’s Binkie Fund.
Now, it’s tough to feel any sort of sympathy at all for Mickelson, who just won the Open Championship, makes a boatload of money in endorsements and such (he was ranked as Forbes’#7 highest-paid athlete), and all-in-all seems to have a pretty good life. This is also the guy who said he might move away from California because of the state taxes there. No tears shall be shed for him. But man. Sixty-one percent is a lot of percent...
So question Hank...where would the poor people be if it weren't for the Millionaires and Billionaires tax dollars? Capitalism is the key to trickle down economics, yes?
Capitalism is on the side of the looser. Only in the nuclear Age it is the whole humanity. We are on this way like it or not.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#289231 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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I agree the silence is deafening.
The silence after more than one atomic incidence will be deadly. Believe it or not. Natural calamities force will have the utmost death toll all over the world. These Forces are under way: silent Killers.
henry

Bad Tennstedt, Germany

#289232 Jul 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
Tell me it’s a sick joke: Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, the mofo who tops the list of those responsible for sabotaging the world’s economy, is lobbying to be the next chairman of the Federal Reserve. Summers was one of the key players during the Clinton years in creating the mortgage derivative bubble that ended up costing tens of millions of Americans their homes and life savings. This is the friggen genius who pushed the banking lobby’s successful effort to make the sale of unregulated bundles of mortgage securities and the phony insurance swaps, which backed them, perfectly legal and totally unmonitored. Those are the toxic bundles that the Federal Reserve is still unloading from the banks at a cost of trillions of dollars.
Summers is the very guy who should have been tarred and feathered and hang from a lamp post in the village square.
This is silly: It is not a man but the capitalist System. In the nuclear Age ... and the power of nature... What else really is the end effect. Perhaps additional a cosmic catastrophe ... to the atomic Desasters.
henry

Bad Tennstedt, Germany

#289234 Jul 27, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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Absolutely heard of it.
It's in the Bible.
The bible is just a fake nothing else.
henry

Bischofferode, Germany

#289235 Jul 27, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Now there is an oxymoron if I ever heard one, there is nothing honest, noble or good about capitalism. As the history of every successful nation clearly shows – remove the regulations and capitalism turns into a greedy, abusive and avaricious corporate mess! Much of the world’s population goes hungry, without the basic necessities of life, simply because there's no profit to be gained in supplying the poor with these essentials. Capitalists cannot make a buck out of it so much of the world lives in absolute poverty.“There is more money to be had in destroying food than it is to give it to starving people.”
To overcome capitalism is to late in the nuclear Age. The end of mankind is on the march. The AKWs prepare the next gaus. May be some natural calamities add to the fast end. Forget the religions at all.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289238 Jul 27, 2013
OSO wrote:
MUQ, of course the 9/11 Commission was a political document and was not allowed to dig deeper because of Philip Zelikow who Cheney hand picked to lead the investigation.

But your accusations are very far fetched and way out there.

The warnings came in from all over the world 8 months before September 11, 2001 and the Bush administration dropped the ball.

Even the outgoing Clinton administration warned the incoming Bush administration about al Qaeda.

They came in office hell bent on Iraq and not al Qaeda.

Plain and Simple Verbiage.
Ans.

I am not talking about the 9/11 commission and its report which was a “Political Report”…. and made to accommodate “both parties”.

I am asking about the “full scale investigation report” on fall of WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 which was conducted by NIST and other federal agencies.

These were done by experts and they should have analyzed in depth about the actual factors that lead to the “spectacular collapse” of these towers.

But they also provided a “lop sided” report not doing their job and “misleading people” by saying that “Single jet strikes and fuel generated fires” were the “sole reason” for collapse of these towers.

They told a lie and people are not coming forward to challenge their lies, they do not want to hear the truth about 9/11 and that is the “prevaling mood” on this and every media outlet of western countries.

PS:

Do not give weightage to the “routine warnings” which CIA / FBI and outgoing presidents issue regarding “danger” to USA from groups like Al Qaeda , Taliban etc.

By doing so, they have “fulfilled their salaries”… no one asks why their 99 warnings were false and when 100th proves true, they jump “We warned you so, we warned you”“We did warn you”!!

What I am saying that 9/11 was “too big” a thing to be arranged by Al Qaeda acting alone.

These plain strikes were not the “real reason” why WTC-1 and WTC-2 collapsed and why WTC-7 “Had” to collapse.

It was a much deeper conspiracy and stakes were much higher than “poor” Al Qaeda could handle.!!
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

United States

#289239 Jul 27, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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According to Richard Clarke who was there, Clinton did much more about al Qaeda, and Bush was asleep at the wheel.
clinton did squat and who is Richard Clarke to say
Hot doggie

United States

#289241 Jul 27, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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According to Richard Clarke who was there, Clinton did much more about al Qaeda, and Bush was asleep at the wheel.
al-Aqaeda was on the run while Clinton was chasing skirts around the Oval Office
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289242 Jul 27, 2013
In the Bush White House, Paul O'Neill was the bespectacled swot in a class of ideological bullies who eventually kicked him out for raising too many uncomfortable questions. Now, 13 months later at a critical moment for the president, the nerd is having his revenge. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/12/u...
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289243 Jul 27, 2013
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#289244 Jul 27, 2013
The Constitution In Crisis (PBS 1987)

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