'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276629 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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henry

Zwickau, Germany

#289208 Jul 25, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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100% correct and TRUE!
God saved them also!
God is never late and never wrong!
Salvation was in God's plan from the beginning!
All the thousands of gods are just phantoms no more.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289209 Jul 25, 2013
henry wrote:
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In capitalism "Fairness" what foolish word!
UNFIT TO LEAD THE WORLD
http://tinyurl.com/noobn / 30 June 2006
http://www.walter-c-uhler.com/Reviews/one%20p...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289210 Jul 25, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. Specialty materials will find their place at appropriate position in the report. Have some patience.
02. And get your mind "unglued" from discussing my religion. That is not part of this discussion.
03. You need scale model, if things do not add up. But if you have "closed your mind" you do not need any models, that is what happened in 9/11 investigation so far.
PS:
Your last part is "hypothetical" and need not be answered.
If I was Incharge of investigating some thing as big as 9/11, I will tell my team, to check for all angles and do not destroy any part of evidence from the site and "do not recycle" any part unless the report is ready and been verified.
01...Sorry COMRADE..I get so excited when someone wants to talk about specialty materials as that is in line with one of my previous works. Please hurry up and get to that part. Anticipation is killing me...

02 and "If I were in charge" part...You would also tell your team not to question the GREATEST UNSOLVED MYSTERY FACT of all time...that there is no way a large moon can split in half physically and, wait, we are not finished with this great unsolved mystery yet, only one person out of one billion was looking at the most magnificant full moon that night as it mysteriously split in half...now that is a conspiracy worth investigating, don't you think?

03...Comrade MUQ, do you think it is feasible to make a scale sized exact replica of the moon down to the craters, rock and sand and perform a physical seperation experiment to validate the possibility of it physically splitting in half and rejoining...of course you know we will need to have more than one observer this time...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289211 Jul 25, 2013
My most esteemed colleagues COMRADE MUQ of Islam and Tinyearl of Christianity...a religion we can all get into perhaps? Maybe even Hank and Frankie would enjoy...I know John eagerly awaits conversion...

http://www.peterrussell.com/Odds/WorldClock.p...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#289212 Jul 25, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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UNFIT TO LEAD THE WORLD
http://tinyurl.com/noobn / 30 June 2006
http://www.walter-c-uhler.com/Reviews/one%20p...
FYI...he is no longer leading...let it go!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289214 Jul 25, 2013
911 Reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job. PART-: 6

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-12/911-reason-...

The presence of molten metal

37. According to numerous witnesses, molten metal was clearly visible on the salvaged steel girders, as well as at Ground Zero. These claims are supported by video footage of the burning towers on 9/11, which clearly shows images of white-hot metal oozing out of the towers like volcanic lava shortly before catastrophic collapse occurs.
38. In the weeks and months after 9/11, there were many reports of “pools of molten metal” in the remains of the World Trade Center. In fact, the presence of these intensely hot pockets hampered the cleanup efforts until December 20 – over three months after the collapses!
39.“As of 21 days after the attack,” said Leslie Robertson, structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, speaking at the National Conference of Structural Engineers on Oct. 5, 2001,“the fires were still burning and the molten steel was still running.”

“The fires got very intense down there,” Richard Riggs, a debris removal specialist, told the History Channel.“It was actually melted beams, molten steel that was being dug up.”

40. Ken Holden, who was involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at Ground Zero told the 9/11 Investigative Committee,“Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the walls from the (WTC) buildings.”

41. To the uninitiated in the murky field of chemistry, such phenomena (intensely burning fires that continue to burn for weeks and months) may seem somehow plausible given the extent of the damage at Ground Zero. But for (some) trained chemists and engineers, such physical phenomena are nothing short of a scientific impossibility without some degree of human trifling. Why? Because steel must be heated to 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit before it will melt, simple as that. Not even the planet Venus gets that hot. Yet researchers are practically unanimous in their belief that the temperatures inside of the buildings never got above 800 degrees.
So what was responsible for slicing through the steel columns like a hot knife through butter?
42. One of the unforgettable images of 9/11 was the amount of white soot that covered everything, making the stunned survivors resemble a menagerie of lost ghosts walking down the streets of New York City in the middle of a snowstorm.
43. Thousands of pounds of this dust clogged every nook and cranny of the Big Apple for weeks. And for the residents of New York, who were forced to cope with tiny mountains of white ash throughout their downtown apartments, this dust became a morbid keepsake, a grim souvenir of the day that shook the world. New Yorkers scooped up the fine powder and saved it, not knowing how important this act would turn out to be, because what researchers discovered in that dust has proven to be the single most disturbing discovery to date about 9/11.

Your comments Mr. AB s?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#289215 Jul 25, 2013
ABs wrote:
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01...Sorry COMRADE..I get so excited when someone wants to talk about specialty materials as that is in line with one of my previous works. Please hurry up and get to that part. Anticipation is killing me...
02 and "If I were in charge" part...You would also tell your team not to question the GREATEST UNSOLVED MYSTERY FACT of all time...that there is no way a large moon can split in half physically and, wait, we are not finished with this great unsolved mystery yet, only one person out of one billion was looking at the most magnificant full moon that night as it mysteriously split in half...now that is a conspiracy worth investigating, don't you think?
03...Comrade MUQ, do you think it is feasible to make a scale sized exact replica of the moon down to the craters, rock and sand and perform a physical seperation experiment to validate the possibility of it physically splitting in half and rejoining...of course you know we will need to have more than one observer this time...
It seems you will do ANYTHING to get out of that noose becoming tight around your neck.

You will use every technique known in the book to change the subject, would you?
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#289216 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
Bush Sought ‘Way’ To Invade Iraq?
O'Neill Tells '60 Minutes' Iraq Was 'Topic A ' 8 Months Before 9-11
Jan. 11, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/9jqge
CBS) A year ago, Paul O'Neill was fired from his job as George Bush's Treasury Secretary for disagreeing too many times with the president's policy on tax cuts.
In the book, O’Neill says that the president did not make decisions in a methodical way: there was no free-flow of ideas or open debate.
At cabinet meetings, he says the president was "like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people. There is no discernible connection," forcing top officials to act "on little more than hunches about what the president might think."
This is what O'Neill says happened at his first hour-long, one-on-one meeting with Mr. Bush:“I went in with a long list of things to talk about, and I thought to engage on and as the book says, I was surprised that it turned out me talking, and the president just listening … As I recall, it was mostly a monologue.”
He also says that President Bush was disengaged, at least on domestic issues, and that disturbed him. And he says that wasn't his experience when he worked as a top official under Presidents Nixon and Ford, or the way he ran things when he was chairman of Alcoa.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60m...
Fair and balanced?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
henry

Germany

#289218 Jul 26, 2013
MUQ wrote:
PS:
So the case that planes were actually hijacked is not proven.
And why the none of the 4 pilots reported hijacking?
What KSM says about that? Because he is the "know all" guy now.
And what about those Crew Members in all four jetliners? Why NONE of them reported hijacking?
While every one in the plane was calling their family members, why none of the crew got the idea and contacted their employers or 911?
Some strange hijacking this. I think there never was any plane hijacking in US before and there were no rules or procedures as to what to do in such cases?
God did save USA all these years!!
Amusing: gOD WHICH NEVER EXISTED.
henry

Germany

#289219 Jul 26, 2013
spocko wrote:
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Yeah right, George Zimmerman is the poster-boy for additional training, he ignored every single thing his instructor taught him!!!
And that with such a "legendary" School System?
henry

Germany

#289220 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
Bush Sought ‘Way’ To Invade Iraq?
O'Neill Tells '60 Minutes' Iraq Was 'Topic A ' 8 Months Before 9-11
Jan. 11, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/9jqge
CBS) A year ago, Paul O'Neill was fired from his job as George Bush's Treasury Secretary for disagreeing too many times with the president's policy on tax cuts.
In the book, O’Neill says that the president did not make decisions in a methodical way: there was no free-flow of ideas or open debate.
At cabinet meetings, he says the president was "like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people. There is no discernible connection," forcing top officials to act "on little more than hunches about what the president might think."
This is what O'Neill says happened at his first hour-long, one-on-one meeting with Mr. Bush:“I went in with a long list of things to talk about, and I thought to engage on and as the book says, I was surprised that it turned out me talking, and the president just listening … As I recall, it was mostly a monologue.”
He also says that President Bush was disengaged, at least on domestic issues, and that disturbed him. And he says that wasn't his experience when he worked as a top official under Presidents Nixon and Ford, or the way he ran things when he was chairman of Alcoa.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60m...
Alcoa? Is that related with alcohol??
henry

Germany

#289221 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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Very true henry but it does not only apply to the USA.
Throughout history Empires always conquered Nations from
time immemorial.
The world once was destroyed by water and the next could be fire.
Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
henry

Germany

#289222 Jul 26, 2013
ABs wrote:
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BUT IF HE DID, hank, he loves you...
You amuse me like a 3-year-old child.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289223 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Alcoa? Is that related with alcohol??
Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill is the truth teller and Bush / Cheney are the Liars.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289224 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
Absolutely heard of it.

It's in the Bible.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289225 Jul 26, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Fair and balanced?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
According to Richard Clarke who was there, Clinton did much more about al Qaeda, and Bush was asleep at the wheel.
henry

Chemnitz, Germany

#289226 Jul 26, 2013
Opensecrets org wrote:
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After Wall Street stole and robbed in 1929, Glass/Steagall was implemented and prohibited them to some degree, but capitalism flourished and most Americans benefited.
In the 1950s, 1960s and even 1970s primarily only the Husband worked in the family and provided for all the needs.
The Husband retired when 65 with a nice pension and Social Security.
Today all those days are gone.
We have to get back to fairness instead of more greed.
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The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/retir...
Things have changed for the US and for capitalism as a whole. The super rich are on the looser trend and the rest of the "Family" too, which calls itself humanity. There is no way out on the nuclear Age. BTW Forget all These phony religions.
Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289227 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Things have changed for the US and for capitalism as a whole. The super rich are on the looser trend and the rest of the "Family" too, which calls itself humanity. There is no way out on the nuclear Age. BTW Forget all These phony religions.
The Nuclear Genie has been out of the bottle for many many many years now.

It is no coincidence that the whole Middle East is up in turmoil and Israel is surrounded by it.

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Nuclear Black Markets: Pakistan, A.Q. Khan and the rise of proliferation networks - A net assessment / 02 May 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/mp76j7q
This IISS Strategic Dossier on nuclear black markets provides a comprehensive assessment of the Pakistani nuclear programme from which the Khan network emerged, the network’s proliferation activities, and the illicit trade in fissile materials.
http://www.iiss.org/en/publications/strategic...

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The CIA provided a stream of accurate reports to the Reagan / Bush administration that Pakistan’s Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was making nuclear weapons-grade uranium throughout the 1980’s. Reagan / Bush did absolutely nothing to stop it because Pakistani ISI was helping Usama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and Taliban to oust the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Russians wanted to control Afghanistan for future oil and gas pipelines from the Caspian Sea Oil and Gas Region.

Now fast forward to October 2001, CIA questioned two senior Pakistani scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Chaudry Abdul Majid and they said Pro-Taliban feelings extend beyond the Pakistani Army, the ISI, it is right into Pakistan’s nuclear-weapons laboratories. Dr. A.Q. Khan confessed that he helped with the Pakistani government assistance, to sell nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. These Pakistani nuclear scientists have close ties to radical Islamic terrorists groups.

George “Ignorant Iraqi Oil” Bush did not do anything about Pakistan’s government selling nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. The CIA had 100% proof of this and George “Incompetent” Bush came out publicly with the truth on October 16, 2002, only 5 days after the Congress voted for Military Force against Iraq. Ignorant Bush also sold F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.

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Opensecrets org

Oakdale, NY

#289228 Jul 26, 2013
henry wrote:
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Ever heard of the nuclear end of mankind?
How the Bush administration let North Korea get nukes.
On Oct. 4, 2002, officials from the U.S. State Department flew to Pyongyang, the capital of North Korea, and confronted Kim Jong-il's foreign ministry with evidence that Kim had acquired centrifuges for processing highly enriched uranium, which could be used for building nuclear weapons. To the Americans' surprise, the North Koreans conceded. It was an unsettling revelation, coming just as the Bush administration was gearing up for a confrontation with Iraq. This new threat wasn't imminent; processing uranium is a tedious task; Kim Jong-il was almost certainly years away from grinding enough of the stuff to make an atomic bomb.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/200...
henry

Rosa, Germany

#289230 Jul 26, 2013
ABs wrote:
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This is no way to treat a billionaire...
Not so fast with that cash, Lefty...
According to a report by Forbes magazine, Phil Mickelson will sacrifice 61% of his earnings for winning both the 2013 British Open Championship and the Scottish Open, all of which will go in taxes to the British and U.S. governments and to the State of California.
Great Britain still collects taxes in Scotland, where the Open Championship was held this year.(Scotland will start collecting its own taxes in 2016.)
The explanation for how Mickelson’s tax rate can get to 61% is decently long and involved, including parts on escalating tax rates and also the fact that the “UK is one of few countries that collects taxes on endorsement income for non-resident athletes that compete in Britain.” Forty five percent of Mickelson’s winnings will go to Great Britain, with 13% going to California and the remaining going to the United States government.
The long and short is that 61% will go to taxes, and that’s before Mickelson pays his caddie, pays for his hotel and expenses, pays his agent, etc. All in, Mickelson will probably walk away with about 30% of the money he earned.
Doubling the pain? Mickelson also won the Scottish Open the week before the Open Championship, which will be taxed at the same rate. For winning both tournaments, Mickelson earned £1,445,000, or about $2,167,500. After taxes, he’ll take home $842,700, with a bit over $1.3 million going to taxes. We assume all of the money taxed by Britain will go directly to the Royal Baby’s Binkie Fund.
Now, it’s tough to feel any sort of sympathy at all for Mickelson, who just won the Open Championship, makes a boatload of money in endorsements and such (he was ranked as Forbes’#7 highest-paid athlete), and all-in-all seems to have a pretty good life. This is also the guy who said he might move away from California because of the state taxes there. No tears shall be shed for him. But man. Sixty-one percent is a lot of percent...
So question Hank...where would the poor people be if it weren't for the Millionaires and Billionaires tax dollars? Capitalism is the key to trickle down economics, yes?
Capitalism is on the side of the looser. Only in the nuclear Age it is the whole humanity. We are on this way like it or not.

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