'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276617 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288848 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>they weren't fair and balanced. Plenty of Democrats lied about WMD so why should I believe them
Any one who believed them was dumfolded nothing else.

Since: Feb 08

Kagoshima, Japan

#288849 Jul 13, 2013
Tamil Tigers Were Probably Japan's Puppets

http://book.geocities.jp/japan_conspiracy/010...

Japan's conspiracy is artful but atrocious and insidious.
Sunlight Foundation com

Oakdale, NY

#288850 Jul 13, 2013
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
The US is worse on myths than religions, but it is a paradise for the minority of the billionairs.
I would think Myths are worldwide and not just in the USA.
Sunlight Foundation com

Oakdale, NY

#288851 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>lock and keys only keep honest people out. The key to stopping a terrorists attack is intelligence.
The people are the eyes and ears of government.
Yes intel is the key but why spy on everyone?

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Everyone is corrupt, I’ve come to learn
Imprisoned CIA whistle-blower John Kiriakou has advice for Snowden -- and a warning for the rest of us / Jul 11, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/p5xjyl9
John Kiriakou, the former CIA officer who blew the whistle on Bush’s torture program and is now in prison, sent an open letter to Edward Snowden last week warning him not to trust the FBI.
“DO NOT,” Kiriakou wrote,“under any circumstances, cooperate with the FBI. FBI agents will lie, trick, and deceive you. They will twist your words and play on your patriotism to entrap you. They will pretend to be people they are not – supporters, well-wishers, and friends – all the while wearing wires to record your out-of-context statements to use against you. The FBI is the enemy; it’s part of the problem, not the solution.”
These are the words of a registered Republican who voted for Gary Johnson, whom the Rosenberg Fund for Children denied a grant, informing him that he wasn’t “liberal enough,” Kiriakou says, for the award — and who last year received a birthday card from Jerry Falwell Jr.
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/11/%E2%80%9Cever...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#288852 Jul 14, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America's War on Islam 2.0

By Stephen Lendman

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - Waging war at home or abroad requires enemies. America creates them when none exist.

Post-9/11, Muslims were targeted for political advantage. Post-Boston bombings, America’s war on Islam continues.

Muslims are “war on terror” scapegoats. Washington’s Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia wars rage.

It’s the wrong time to be Muslims in America. They’re persecuted for their faith and ethnicity. At times it’s for their activism, prominence, and/or charity.

They’re dehumanized, spied on, set up as patsies, hunted down, rounded up, held in detention, kept in isolation, denied bail, restricted in their right to counsel, tried on secret evidence, convicted on bogus charges, given long sentences, and treated harshly as political prisoners.

The term “Islamofascism” was popularized. Some call it Islamic radicalism or jihadism. The New Oxford American Dictionary calls it “a controversial term equating some modern Islamic movements with the European fascist movements of the early twentieth century.”

The Urban Dictionary says it “refers to the notion that Islam is not so much a religion as it is a political ideology that in many ways resembles ‘fascism.’”

“An Islamofascist can either be an Islamic fundamentalist, or someone who uses violence or bullying tactics to impose Islamic principles on others….”

It’s used to describe groups like Al Qaeda. In 2008, Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) headlined “The Dirty Dozen – Who’s who among America’s leading Islamophobes.”

FAIR called David Horowitz its “premier promoter.” His 2007 “Islamofascism Awareness Week” attracted leading Muslim haters.

Author Robert Spencer was called a prominent Islam-basher. He publishes the “notoriously Islamophobic website”“Jihad Watch.”

Daniel Pipes founded the Middle East Forum think tank. He defends racially profiling Arab Americans. He calls their presence a “true danger” for Jews.

Michael Savage hosts “The Savage Nation.” It’s a nationally syndicated radio talk show. He relentlessly uses hateful language. He once endorsed killing a hundred million Muslims. He did so on air.

Pat Robertson calls Islam violent and irrational. It’s “not a religion,” he says. It’s a “worldwide political movement.” It’s “meant to subjugate all people under Islamic law.” It’s a “bloody, brutal type of religion.”

Others on FAIR’s list included Fox News’ Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, conservative political commentator Mark Steyn, self-styled Islamic terrorist expert Steven Emerson, conservative blogger/commentator Michelle Malkin, former Fox News host Glenn Beck, and political commentator Debbie Schlussel.
Connect the dots. The Boston bombings connect eerily to 9/11. Muslims were blamed both times. America’s war on terror targets them. It continues at home and abroad.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s a naturalized US citizen. Senators Lindsey Graham (R. SC), John McCain (R. AZ) and Kelly Ayotte (R. NH), as well as Rep. Peter King (R. NY) want him held as an “enemy combatant.” They want him denied fundamental rights.

King chairs the House Homeland Security Committee. He’s also an Intelligence Committee member. He wants more surveillance.“It keeps us ahead of the terrorists who are constantly trying to kill us,” he said.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#288853 Jul 14, 2013
Contd.

Big Brother no longer is fiction. Total surveillance is possible. New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, Boston, and other cities use growing numbers of video cameras.

They monitor streets, commercial areas, airports, highways, public and private transportation, shopping malls, government and business buildings, as well as other places where people congregate, work, reside, recreate, or inhabit for any reason.
King and others want more. Drone surveillance may be expedited. Legislation authorized eye in the sky spying. Civil libertarians call all forms of surveillance an unregulated privacy threat.

In his April 20 weekly address, Obama suggested perhaps what’s coming. He called Monday’s incident “an act of terror….But in the days since….Americans refuse to be terrorized.”

“….Boston’s spirit remains undaunted. America’s spirit remains undimmed….(T)hat’s what makes us strong. That’s why we endure.”
“In the days to come, we will remain vigilant as a nation.” Expect the worst to follow.

henry

Germany

#288854 Jul 14, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
<quoted text>
I would think Myths are worldwide and not just in the USA.
But myths are not reality!
Pdamerica org

Brooklyn, NY

#288855 Jul 14, 2013
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
But myths are not reality!
True.

Very true.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#288858 Jul 14, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes intel is the key but why spy on everyone?
==========
Everyone is corrupt, I’ve come to learn
Imprisoned CIA whistle-blower John Kiriakou has advice for Snowden -- and a warning for the rest of us / Jul 11, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/p5xjyl9
John Kiriakou, the former CIA officer who blew the whistle on Bush’s torture program and is now in prison, sent an open letter to Edward Snowden last week warning him not to trust the FBI.
“DO NOT,” Kiriakou wrote,“under any circumstances, cooperate with the FBI. FBI agents will lie, trick, and deceive you. They will twist your words and play on your patriotism to entrap you. They will pretend to be people they are not – supporters, well-wishers, and friends – all the while wearing wires to record your out-of-context statements to use against you. The FBI is the enemy; it’s part of the problem, not the solution.”
These are the words of a registered Republican who voted for Gary Johnson, whom the Rosenberg Fund for Children denied a grant, informing him that he wasn’t “liberal enough,” Kiriakou says, for the award — and who last year received a birthday card from Jerry Falwell Jr.
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/11/%E2%80%9Cever...
Do they really spy on everyone? You know they have algorithms to just capture poachers.
UidiotRacemakeWO RLDPEACE

United States

#288859 Jul 14, 2013
look what i found .
prime Minister Ariel Sharon said to minister of Foreign Affairs Shimon Peres on October 3, 2001, according to Israeli radio Kol Yisrael
"We, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.

Whoa no 1984 came up, use to enter my Post
UidiotRacemakeWO RLDPEACE

United States

#288860 Jul 14, 2013
Old news that came true

General Wesley Clark has testified that one month after September 11th, 2001 a general from the Pentagon showed him a memo from neoconservative strategists that describes how:

The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives
by Laurent Guyénot

We’re gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan and finishing off with Iran.
Pdamerica org

Brooklyn, NY

#288861 Jul 14, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Do they really spy on everyone? You know they have algorithms to just capture poachers.
According to the whistle blowers Mark Klein, Russell Tice, All Americans are being spied on.
Pdamerica org

Brooklyn, NY

#288862 Jul 14, 2013
UidiotRacemakeWORLDPEACE wrote:
Old news that came true
General Wesley Clark has testified that one month after September 11th, 2001 a general from the Pentagon showed him a memo from neoconservative strategists that describes how:
The machiavelian threefold game of the neoconservatives
by Laurent Guyénot
We’re gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan and finishing off with Iran.
Hush, nobody is supposed to know that.

Even Tommy Franks wanted to invade Somalia after Afghanistan.

Not Iraq.
UidiotraceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#288863 Jul 14, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Hush, nobody is supposed to know that.
Even Tommy Franks wanted to invade Somalia after Afghanistan.
Not Iraq.
It out out! War HAwk Down, as movie goers get the jist, on well educate Americans knows about it and even some our Dumb American, not thing new!!

our US losing trillion USD dollar for wars, US is morally and Financially bankrupted!
UidiotraceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#288864 Jul 14, 2013
Thomas Carlyle
"
War is a quarrel between two thieves too cowardly to fight their own battle; therefore they take boys from one village and another village, stick them into uniforms, equip them with guns, and let them loose like wild beasts against each other.
UidiotraceMAKEWO RLDPEACE

Astoria, NY

#288865 Jul 14, 2013
Emma Goldman, America feminist
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The people are urged to be patriotic ... by sacrificing their own children. Patriotism requires allegience to the flag, which means obedience and readiness to kill father, mother, brother, sister.
tertty

Pittsburgh, PA

#288866 Jul 14, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ………… About Time Playdo
but which war is you talkin about?
Pdamerica org

Brooklyn, NY

#288867 Jul 14, 2013
UidiotraceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>It out out! War HAwk Down, as movie goers get the jist, on well educate Americans knows about it and even some our Dumb American, not thing new!!
our US losing trillion USD dollar for wars, US is morally and Financially bankrupted!
I agree.

19 terrorist with box cutters.

$Trillions and $Trillions spent in return.

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Why We Fight
http://tinyurl.com/bn73v
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/main.h...

We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. Today the real test of power is not capacity to make war but capacity to prevent it. The guns and the bombs, the rockets and the warships, are all symbols of human failure. History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Iraq/Military-Industrial Complex/The Ruling Class
http://tinyurl.com/28ubsjy
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#288868 Jul 14, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

America's War on Islam 2.0

By Stephen Lendman

(Contd)
Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev are called Islamic terrorists.

Round-the-clock coverage pronounced guilt by accusation. What’s most important to know is suppressed. Managed news misinformation substitutes.

Both brothers were set up as patsies. One’s dead. The other’s seriously wounded. He remains hospitalized. He’s at Boston’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center. He’s under heavy guard.

He’ll be interrogated when able to respond. He won’t be read his Miranda rights. On April 20, the ACLU headlined a “Statement on Miranda Rights of Boston Bombings Suspect,” saying:

“The American Civil Liberties Union reacted to the apprehension of the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing and statements from federal officials that he would be questioned without being read his Miranda rights.”

“Every criminal defendant is entitled to be read Miranda rights. The public safety exception should be read narrowly. It applies only when there is a continued threat to public safety and is not an open-ended exception to the Miranda rule.”

“Additionally, every criminal defendant has a right to be brought before a judge and to have access to counsel. We must not waver from our tried-and-true justice system, even in the most difficult of times. Denial of rights is un-American and will only make it harder to obtain fair convictions.”

The Center for Constitutional Rights headlined “CCR Condemns Miranda Exception in Boston Marathon Suspect Case,” saying:
“The Miranda warnings were put in place because police officers were beating and torturing ‘confessions’ out of people who hadn’t even been formally accused of a crime.”

“We cannot afford to repeat our mistakes. If officials require suspects to incriminate themselves, they are making fair trials and due process merely option and not a requirement. To venture down that road again will make law enforcement accountable to no one.”

“Like Obama’s expanded killing program and his perpetuation of indefinite detention without trial at Guantanamo, this is yet another erosion of the Constitution to lay directly at the President’s feet.”

“Obama’s Justice Department unilaterally expanded the ‘public safety exception’ to Miranda in 2010 beyond anything the Supreme Court ever authorized.”

“Each time the administration use this exception, it stretches wider and longer. However horrific the crime, continuing to erode constitutional rights invites continued abuse by law enforcement, and walks us down a dangerous path that becomes nearly impossible to reverse.”
Media straightaway convicted both brothers. They did so in the court of public opinion. Misreporting continues. FAIR’s Peter Hart calls it a “rush to misjudgment,” saying:

“We’ve seen reporting and commentary that talked about the Muslim or jihadist character of the bombs themselves: pressure cookers, ball bearings or nails used.”

“These are things that are not unique to al-Qaeda or al-Qaeda-inspired terror attacks.”

“We saw references to the Times Square bombing, trying to put this in the context of Islamic terror or previous instances of what the media like to refer to as Islamic terror.”

“We even saw references to the fact that two bombs were there. It must have been a follow-up attack trying to hit the rescue workers when they show up – again, a Middle Eastern trait, we’re told.”

“This is actually what the United States government has done in places like Iraq and in drone strikes in Pakistan.”

“So we have seen this rush to characterize this bombing, without necessarily saying precisely that we know who the perpetrators are, but to put it in this context.”
“And I think that creates a climate of fear and suspicion, particularly directed toward certain communities.”

MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#288869 Jul 14, 2013
I wonder what happened to our friend ABs? Who was going to discuss events of 9/11 leading to the collapse of WTC-1, 2 and WTC-7.

I hope, he has not lost interest in the topic, they usually do after a couple of exchanges.

They do not want to face the truth of 9/11, well most of them any way.

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