'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276635 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#288831 Jul 12, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

US Gives Green Light For Israeli Attack On Iran
Israeli Strike Capability Just Got Real

By Marc Goldberg

April 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"Times Of Israel" - The importance of the new arms deal between Israel and the United States cannot be overstated.

The arrival of an as yet undisclosed number of KC-135 aerial refuelling aircraft will give the Israeli Air Force (IAF) the range to attack any target in Iran that it deems necessary in order to suppress the Iranian nuclear program.
This is quite simply a game changer.

Up until now just about every expert and pundit, not to mention former chief of staff of the IDF has known that Israel simply couldnít launch an attack against Iran on itís own and that all talk to the contrary was more bluster than threat. That is no longer the case or rather it will no longer be the case once the tankers arrive and our pilots have been trained in their use.

Many of the challenges of attacking Iran remain, but distance is no longer one of them. The aerial refueling capability means that from now on when the Prime Minister of Israel talks about attacking Iran he needs to be taken seriously.

In absolute terms the tankers on their own ensure that the IAF can reach every target in Iran that they need to, everything is in range. What they donít do is increase the destructive power of the ordnance that their F-15s and F-16s can carry. Any strike that would be launched is likely to be launched at targets that were built with defense in mind. Essentially meaning that a large part of them is underground.

Although the much vaunted BLU-109 bunker buster bombs are on their way into the inventory of the IAF they are able to penetrate six feet of reinforced concrete whereas, for example, the Natanz nuclear plant is built under 22 meters of dirt as well as eight meters of reinforced concrete and in a facility that is about 100,000 square meters in size. Now multiply those problems by at least another 20 facilities that need to be attacked, probably more and the scale of the challenge still involved in destroying the Iranian program becomes clear.

These challenges are not insurmountable but it does mean that no attack on Iran can take place without Israeli boots on the ground, that fact is so important that Iím going to say it again;
No attack on Iran can take place without Israeli boots on the ground!

Whatís really interesting is that the announcement of the imminent arrival of the V-22 Osprey into the inventory of the IAF came almost as an aside to the news of the KC-135s. These aircraft are a feat of design that compares with no other. They look like a regular propeller aircraft albeit with unusually large props on each wing. The wings can then be tilted 90 degrees while the plane is in the air giving it all of the hover capability of a helicopter. It has already performed exceptionally well in combat zones in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere. It is perfect for the deployment of Special Operations Forces.

With the Osprey the IDF will gain the capability to transport troops and their equipment to the target zone in sufficient numbers not merely to conduct the reconnaissance that they are already carrying out but to launch direct action attacks.

Although itís unlikely that the IDF has the power to stop the Iranian nuclear programme dead in its tracks, it does have the power to set it back a long way.

Tehran, are you listening?
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#288832 Jul 13, 2013
Fox News Makes You Stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
The Cole happened on October 12 2000.
Clinton wanted the wiretaps in 1998.
Seems like Bush implemented it even before September 11, 2001 and it still did not stop it.
Sincerely,
Benghazi September 11, 2012
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Spy Agency Sought U.S. Call Records Before 9/11, Lawyers Say
http://tinyurl.com/egle8 June 30 2006
(Bloomberg)-- The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court.
The allegation is part of a court filing adding AT&T, the nation's largest telephone company, as a defendant in a breach of privacy case filed earlier this month on behalf of Verizon Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp. customers. The suit alleges that the three carriers, the NSA and President George W. Bush violated the Telecommunications Act of 1934 and the U.S. Constitution, and seeks money damages.
``The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,'' plaintiff's lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview.``This undermines that assertion.''
The lawsuit is related to an alleged NSA program to record and store data on calls placed by subscribers. More than 30 suits have been filed over claims that the carriers, the three biggest U.S. telephone companies, violated the privacy rights of their customers by cooperating with the NSA in an effort to track alleged terrorists.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...
This exonerates George Bush when people said that he knew in August of 2001 that Bin Ladin and Al-Qaeda were planning to attack inside the US. This is what he was up against. Listening program might have identified the how and when.

It became obvious to everyone that NSA programs were necessary in October 2001. There were no further attacks during Bush's final 7 years
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#288833 Jul 13, 2013
Fox News will always be right by pointing out liberal-do-gooders. They tried to make George Bush's life miserable.

George Bush was always on top
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#288834 Jul 13, 2013
spocko wrote:
What do you call an Imam with 6 goats?
maaa
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#288835 Jul 13, 2013
DOJ should be targeting "truthers" not James Rosen
Sunlight Foundation com

Oakdale, NY

#288836 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>This exonerates George Bush when people said that he knew in August of 2001 that Bin Ladin and Al-Qaeda were planning to attack inside the US. This is what he was up against. Listening program might have identified the how and when.
It became obvious to everyone that NSA programs were necessary in October 2001. There were no further attacks during Bush's final 7 years
Your premise is totally false John.

Government cannot protect its citizenry.

Do you lock your car?

Do you lock your house?

Do you lock your windows?

Where are the cops when you really need them?

After the fact.

Aren't there terrorists attacks in Russia? Israel? France? England? Boston USA? and all over the Middle East?

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Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
Benjamin Franklin

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"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
-- Thomas Jefferson
spocko

Oakland, CA

#288837 Jul 13, 2013
spocko wrote:
What do you call an Imam with 6 goats?
A pimp ...
Sunlight Foundation com

Oakdale, NY

#288838 Jul 13, 2013
spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
A pimp ...
I was reading some of those jokes.

Funny stuff.
henry

Schneeberg, Germany

#288839 Jul 13, 2013
spocko wrote:
A revolt by the world's middle class has begun!
Thereís always been a fight between the rich and the working man. The wealthy have an insatiable gluttonous greed and the working man wants a decent living. When the rich are victorious and accumulate too much of the wealth and the workers have too little the rich end up dead and history repeats itself. There has never been such a huge disparity between what the rich have now and the working man. They ďone percentĒ own 60 percent of America and gets 30 percent of all income. Donít tell me bribery of congress and the Supreme Court doesn't pay. We need to leave our jobs for weeks and protest key govít. properties. Shut down businesses by not buying, or visiting. Make Walmart a deserted area, stay 50 ft. away from Starbucks, hold all money from going to any bank.
http://qz.com/97102/why-the-revolt-of-the-glo...
Only the Proletariat can overcome the bourgeosy. The bourgeosy is in the nuclear Age in any way a suicide System for the whole System.
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288840 Jul 13, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
How about the Quran?
All religions are fakes.
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288841 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>they weren't fair and balanced. Plenty of Democrats lied about WMD so why should I believe them
Of course the US are a babaric state from the beginning of statehood.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#288842 Jul 13, 2013
Sunlight Foundation com wrote:
<quoted text>
Your premise is totally false John.
Government cannot protect its citizenry.
Do you lock your car?
Do you lock your house?
Do you lock your windows?
Where are the cops when you really need them?
After the fact.
Aren't there terrorists attacks in Russia? Israel? France? England? Boston USA? and all over the Middle East?
=========
Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
Benjamin Franklin
---------
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
-- Thomas Jefferson
lock and keys only keep honest people out. The key to stopping a terrorists attack is intelligence.

The people are the eyes and ears of government.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Chalfont, PA

#288843 Jul 13, 2013
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course the US are a babaric state from the beginning of statehood.
hope you are in Russia
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288844 Jul 13, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
Myth #1. The US government is involved in class warfare attacking the rich to lift up the poor.
There is a class war going on all right. But it is the rich against the rest of us and the rich are winning. The gap between the rich and everyone else is wider in the US than any of the 30 other countries surveyed. In fact, the top 10% in the US have a higher annual income than any other country. And the poorest 10% in the US are below the average of the other OECD countries. The rich in the U.S. have been rapidly leaving the middle class and poor behind since the 1980s.
Myth #2. The US already has the greatest health care system in the world.
Infant mortality in the US is 4th worst among OECD countries Ė better only than Mexico, Turkey and the Slovak Republic.
Myth #3. There is less poverty in the US than anywhere.
Child poverty in the US, at over 20% or one out of every five kids, is double the average of the 30 OECD countries.
Myth #4. The US is generous in its treatment of families with children.
The US ranks in the bottom half of countries in terms of financial benefits for families with children. Over half of the 30 OECD countries pay families with children cash benefits regardless of the income of the family. Some among those countries (e.g. Austria, France and Germany) pay additional benefits if the family is low-income, or one of the parents is unemployed.
Myth #5. The US is very supportive of its workers.
The US gives no paid leave for working mothers having children. Every single one of the other 30 OECD countries has some form of paid leave. The US ranks dead last in this. Over two thirds of the countries give some form of paid paternity leave. The US also gives no paid leave for fathers.
In fact, it is only workers in the US who have no guaranteed days of paid leave at all. Korea is the next lowest to the US and it has a minimum of 8 paid annual days of leave. Most of the other 30 countries require a minimum of 20 days of annual paid leave for their workers.
Myth #6. Poor people have more chance of becoming rich in the US than anywhere else.
Social mobility (how children move up or down the economic ladder in comparison with their parents) in earnings, wages and education tends to be easier in Australia, Canada and Nordic countries like Denmark, Norway, and Finland, than in the US. That means more of the rich stay rich and more of the poor stay poor here in the US.
Myth #7. The US spends generously on public education.
In terms of spending for public education, the US is just about average among the 30 countries of the OECD. Educational achievement of US children, however, is 7th worst in the OECD. On public spending for childcare and early education, the US is in the bottom third.
Myth #8. The US government is redistributing income from the rich to the poor.
There is little redistribution of income by government in the U.S. in part because spending on social benefits like unemployment and family benefits is so low. Of the 30 countries in the OECD, only in Korea is the impact of governmental spending lower.
Myth #9. The US generously gives foreign aid to countries across the world.
The US gives the smallest percentage of aid of any of the developed countries in the OECD. In 2007 the US was tied for last with Greece. In 2008, we were tied for last with Japan.
Despite the opinions of right wing folks, the facts say the US is not on the path towards socialism.
But if socialism means the US would go down the path of being more generous with our babies, our children, our working families, our pregnant mothers, and our sisters and brothers across the world, I think we could all appreciate it.
The US is worse on myths than religions, but it is a paradise for the minority of the billionairs.
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288845 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Obama is more concerned about the welfare of Gitmo prisoners than the welfare of West Virginia coal miners.
This is a joke: for the Gitmo prisoners and for coal miners too.
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288846 Jul 13, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Want to See What a Police State Looks Like?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/want-to-s...
This Is your public servants Against YOU America!
Of course: US is a Police state pure!
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288847 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Fox News will always be right by pointing out liberal-do-gooders. They tried to make George Bush's life miserable.
George Bush was always on top
I daubt very much: a small minority of billionairs had and have the top say. Bush clan and all the other socalled presidents are just orders Receivers nothing else.
henry

Rodewisch, Germany

#288848 Jul 13, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>they weren't fair and balanced. Plenty of Democrats lied about WMD so why should I believe them
Any one who believed them was dumfolded nothing else.

Since: Feb 08

Kagoshima, Japan

#288849 Jul 13, 2013
Tamil Tigers Were Probably Japan's Puppets

http://book.geocities.jp/japan_conspiracy/010...

Japan's conspiracy is artful but atrocious and insidious.
Sunlight Foundation com

Oakdale, NY

#288850 Jul 13, 2013
henry wrote:
<quoted text>
The US is worse on myths than religions, but it is a paradise for the minority of the billionairs.
I would think Myths are worldwide and not just in the USA.

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