'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276629 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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henry

Bischofferode, Germany

#288344 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This is a childish believe! International laws tell Long ago another Story!
henry

Bischofferode, Germany

#288345 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Why give a peace treaty to a defeated nation? I do have two agreements to throw your way though hank...what are Potsdam and the Two plus 4 agreements? By all means the floor is yours, educate me...
Well Potsdam has been violated by the western allies Long ago. The Two plus 4 Agreement did not give Germany absolute Sovereignity.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288346 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
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So in germany's case would we have needed two of them?
Germany has to get a peace treaty no less no more. The international Hague civil laws (1906?)say so.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288347 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This is a childish believe in international law.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288348 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This is a childish believe in international laws.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288349 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This is a childish believe in international Laws. Your US lawyers will tell you a different Story.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288350 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
A childish believe! Your US Laywers will tell quite a different Story.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288351 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
A very childish view.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288352 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why give a peace treaty to a defeated nation? I do have two agreements to throw your way though hank...what are Potsdam and the Two plus 4 agreements? By all means the floor is yours, educate me...
Potsdam has been violated Long ago. The two plus 4 Agreement has not brought Germany full sovereignity. Why did (for instance) Japan Long ago got ist peace treaty?
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288353 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
US lawyers will tell you this is a childish view.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288354 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why give a peace treaty to a defeated nation? I do have two agreements to throw your way though hank...what are Potsdam and the Two plus 4 agreements? By all means the floor is yours, educate me...
Sorry, international laws tell another Story.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288355 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
US laywers would tell you quite a different Story.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288356 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This may be good for the Bible but not for international laws.
henry

Donndorf, Germany

#288357 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
This is a really childish view International laws tell you different.
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#288360 Jun 7, 2013
Andy wrote:
<quoted text>Germany acts like a capitalistic society in a socialistic Europe
To speake from Europe as socialistic is silly.
henry

Herbsleben, Germany

#288361 Jun 7, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Defeated countries need no peace treaty...
US lawyers tell you a different story
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#288362 Jun 7, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

How the West Missed a Chance to Make Peace With Iran

Peter Oborne shows how the West turned down a precious opportunity to resolve the Iranian nuclear crisis eight years ago, and argues that it is western rather than Iranian intransigence that prevents a deal being struck today.

By Peter Oborne
(Contd.)

This EU intransigence meant that Iran was being invidiously singled out as the only party to the NPT that was forbidden to have uranium enrichment on its own soil.

It was no surprise therefore that Iran rejected these proposals out of hand. As a result the country restarted its nuclear programme — with the consequences we are living with today. An historic opportunity was lost for Europe to come to a comprehensive settlement with Iran on a wide range of issues.

It is reasonable to conclude that the EU states were not interested in devising “objective guarantees that Iran’s nuclear programme is exclusively for peaceful purposes”. So what is going on? Why all the anger, the endless barrage of rhetoric and the ruthless drive to isolate Iran, which has led to the sanctions that are reportedly driving millions of Iranians to the brink of poverty and despair?

The answer is that a different agenda is at work, which we believe has little or nothing to do with Iran’s non-existent nuclear weapons. The US and its European clients are driven by a different compulsion: the humiliation and eventual destruction of Iran’s Islamic regime.

Confrontation with Iran is unnecessary.

As the settlement proposed by the Iranians at the Quai d’Orsay suggests, Iran is prepared to deal with the West. It is the West that has repeatedly refused to accept the peace entreaties of the Iranian and refused to deal with Iran on reasonable terms.

Some senior figures have recognised this. In a most encouraging interview with the Financial Times in June 2009, Senator John Kerry, then Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, described the inflexibility on Iran by the former Bush administration as “bombastic diplomacy” that had “wasted energy” and “hardened the lines”.

Under the NPT, Iran had “a right to peaceful nuclear power and to enrichment in that purpose”, he said. If these views of John Kerry in 2009 were to become the US policy propounded by Secretary of State Kerry in 2013, the prospects for a settlement with Iran on the nuclear issue would be excellent.

It is bitterly ironic that any deal struck by the United States with Iran along the lines Mr Kerry suggested in 2009 would acknowledge Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear power — and therefore be nearly identical to the one offered by Iran negotiators at the Quai d’Orsay in 2005, and contemptuously turned down by the West.
Note:

Peter Oborne and David Morrison’s book, A Dangerous Delusion: Why the West is Wrong about Nuclear Iran, has just been published by Elliott & Thompson.
Andy

Chalfont, PA

#288364 Jun 7, 2013
henry wrote:
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To speake from Europe as socialistic is silly.
Silly? You talk silly.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0316186597/ref=...
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#288365 Jun 7, 2013
Andy wrote:
<quoted text>Silly? You talk silly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0316186597/ref=...
Obama is validating GWB the Great as the greatest President. Anybody listening?
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#288367 Jun 7, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is validating GWB the Great as the greatest President. Anybody listening?
He is lame duck President now, who cares what he says about anything.

Do you listen to him?

Or ONLY what he says about GWB the great?

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