'The War Is Not Over'

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CrimeaRiver

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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
That is a fairly pointless way of looking at the world.

If you wish to live your life as a god fearing human, then that is your choice. But i wouldn't pu too much emphasis on biblical quotes that are ambiguous at best.

I will live my life as decently, compassionately and as respectfully as i can. If I get to the gates of heaven to be refused for not accepting Christ, then perhaps Christianity isn't as forgiving and as compassionate as it claims to be.

But more likely, I will die. And thats it.

Its better to create a paradise here on earth than to hope for a paradise in the afterlife.
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That is a fairly pointless way of looking at the world.
If you wish to live your life as a god fearing human, then that is your choice. But i wouldn't pu too much emphasis on biblical quotes that are ambiguous at best.
I will live my life as decently, compassionately and as respectfully as i can. If I get to the gates of heaven to be refused for not accepting Christ, then perhaps Christianity isn't as forgiving and as compassionate as it claims to be.
But more likely, I will die. And thats it.
Its better to create a paradise here on earth than to hope for a paradise in the afterlife.
God judges the heart and that is what counts.

All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.

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Ask, Seek, Knock

7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
CrimeaRiver

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God judges the heart and that is what counts.
All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.
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Matthew 7
Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Its near impossible to believe in a religion that assigns original sin to every human at the point of birth.

A child with no concept of sin or humanity is born a sinner and must absolve itself before Christ for salvation.

Come on - seriously?

Conversely - an actual sinner; rapists, murderers, child traffickers can be absolved from their disgusting deeds by repenting on their deathbed and asking for absolution.

Here is a faith where a man, a human man can excommunicate someone and deny their entry to a fabled heaven.

Again! seriously?

Your answers aren't filling me with much hope for humanity. It makes me sad that we have come so far, have acheieved so much, have unlocked so many secrets through research and study. We have split an atom, we have travelled to space, we have decoded ancient languages, we the ability replace hearts, lungs, kidneys, we have done so much. And yet there are still people who tell us that the only answers are through Jesus Christ.

Jesus - a man who supposedly saved us all through his martyrdom.

I fail to see how we've been saved or how his death resulted in salvation for mankind
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Its near impossible to believe in a religion that assigns original sin to every human at the point of birth.
A child with no concept of sin or humanity is born a sinner and must absolve itself before Christ for salvation.
Come on - seriously?
Conversely - an actual sinner; rapists, murderers, child traffickers can be absolved from their disgusting deeds by repenting on their deathbed and asking for absolution.
Here is a faith where a man, a human man can excommunicate someone and deny their entry to a fabled heaven.
Again! seriously?
Your answers aren't filling me with much hope for humanity. It makes me sad that we have come so far, have acheieved so much, have unlocked so many secrets through research and study. We have split an atom, we have travelled to space, we have decoded ancient languages, we the ability replace hearts, lungs, kidneys, we have done so much. And yet there are still people who tell us that the only answers are through Jesus Christ.
Jesus - a man who supposedly saved us all through his martyrdom.
I fail to see how we've been saved or how his death resulted in salvation for mankind
Can CrimeaRiver create the Sun?

Can CrimeaRiver create the Moon?

Can CrimeaRiver create the Stars?

Can CrimeaRiver create all Life?

I THINK NOT!

God gave all Humans free choice and Adam and Eve sinned.

It is that simple.

Nobody is perfect except for JESUS.

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Righteousness Through Faith

21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
CrimeaRiver

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Can CrimeaRiver create the Sun?
Can CrimeaRiver create the Moon?
Can CrimeaRiver create the Stars?
Can CrimeaRiver create all Life?
I THINK NOT!
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No I can't, nor do I pretend to know who or what did create those things.

Let's put it like this. Do you, as a Christian, believe that lifeforms exist on other planets? Is it something you can accept as a Christian?

If, 15 years from now we find evidence of extra terrestrials, how will that fit in with your beliefs.

I assume you believe the earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old. With all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, how can you still believe that
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God judges the heart and that is what counts.
All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.
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Matthew 7
Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
And all I'm saying is give "Flying Spaghetti Monster" a chance!
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Comrade MUQ, your thoughts?

Russia is reportedly sending military aid to Syria that seems designed to counter any attempt at military intervention from the US or other Western countries. US officials tell the New York Times that Russia has sent the regime new, radar-equipped anti-ship cruise missiles, weapons that could fend off an international naval blockade. To wit, one expert describes the Yakhont missiles as "a real ship killer." Russia has also sent at least a dozen warships to patrol the waters near its Syrian base, the Wall Street Journal reports. "It is a show of force," a US defense official says. "It's muscle flexing."

US officials responded yesterday by warning that Israeli airstrikes could target the missile shipments. The posturing comes even as the situation on the ground grows thornier; essentially the country has split in three, a dire front-page New York Times analysis concludes, with radical Islamists dominating a Sunni region in the north, Hezbollah and other pro-regime forces controlling the country's midsection, and Kurds staking out an autonomous region. "It is not that Syria is melting down," one analyst says. "It has melted down."
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And all I'm saying is give "Flying Spaghetti Monster" a chance!
Question Francis...do you know the real reason why in this nations quest for self reliance why OBUMBLE opposes the Keystone pipeline project to pump high grade tar sands crude from Canada to the gulf coast refineries?

Ask yourself one question... What is it that Warren Buffet is so afraid of that he has paid and bought himself OBUMBLE to ensure approval of the project stalls? I bet Tinyearl knows the connection...
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Here's a little hint as to the intellect of your average GOPer:
New Poll shows that 46% of Republicans think that Benghazi is the Biggest Politcal Scandal Ever. One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE IT IS!! 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea with 4% not willing to venture a guess.
Now THAT's an informed group of voters!
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Question Francis...do you know the real reason why in this nations quest for self reliance why OBUMBLE opposes the Keystone pipeline project to pump high grade tar sands crude from Canada to the gulf coast refineries?
Ask yourself one question... What is it that Warren Buffet is so afraid of that he has paid and bought himself OBUMBLE to ensure approval of the project stalls? I bet Tinyearl knows the connection...
High-grade Tar Sand Oil is a misnomer – there is no such thing!
Canada’s tar sands formations, landlocked in northern Alberta, are a giant mess of carbon-saturated energy — a mixture of sand, clay and a gelatin like low-grade petroleum called bitumen. Pipelines are the best way to get this messy resource to market, but existing pipelines to the United States are almost full. So tar sands companies, and the Canadian government looking for revenue, is desperately searching for export routes via new pipelines. Even Canadians don’t support construction of the pipeline they want the bloody miss the Oil Companies created out of Alberta!
Tar sands production in Alberta is the world’s most environmentally damaging site. It wrecks vast areas of boreal forest through surface mining and subsurface production. It sucks up huge quantities of water from local rivers, turns it into toxic waste and dumps the contaminated water into tailing ponds that now cover nearly 70 square miles. The extraction and treatment to turn the tar into usable products requires more energy than it yields – any questions?
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How can you be right henry when there are Billions and Billions of people on planet earth who believe in GOD.
Truth has always right. A reality is the strongest truth! The reality is against Billion myths!
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How can you be right henry when there are Billions and Billions of people on planet earth who believe in GOD.
God is just a myth no more!
henry

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world average background radiation of 0.87 mSv/a from cosmic and terrestrial sources...varies by locations
Tell that Three Miles, Tchernobyl and Fukushima survivers!
henry

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<quoted text>communism will never "rosed" again because people can't get along. Capitalism will always survive because people will not have to get along. They just have to compete. Communism can't compete.
In the nuclear Age mankind has no Chance to survive in a nuclear Inferno.
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But radiation is and has always been present, ever before the dawn of the nuclear age...
So asked the People of Tchernobyl, Fukushima or Three Miles and so on!
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How about trying this:
Just ask JESUS to show Himself too you.
If you truly have an open mind, then pray and meditate on the scriptures and ask JESUS for guidance.
CrimeaRiver, Remember that most all of the original Apostles died horrible deaths all because they would not deny that they saw JESUS come back from the dead.
They saw HIM come back.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
The only reason for any religion to flourish is the shameless indoctrination of children in religious dogma long before they can make intelligent evaluations of the ideas. How can people talk about a Christian or Muslim child? Is that any different than talking about a post-modernist or socialist child?
Travel away from Earth at the speed of light for half an hour and you would enter the frozen realm of the outer Solar System. Out here are planets that are nothing but atmosphere - unimaginably vast balls of churning gas and ice. These are alien, chaotic worlds with storms large enough to swallow Earth three times over and winds screaming across their surface at nearly the speed of sound – no God no religion!
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News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Condemning North Korea’s Latest Nuclear Test Is Meaningless

By Buddhi Kota Subbarao
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According to China’s foreign ministry, its Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi summoned North Korea’s ambassador to China on Tuesday (Feb 12, 2013) to tell him Beijing was “strongly dissatisfied and resolutely opposed” to North Korea’s nuclear test.

Reactions to the latest North Korean nuclear test, from the United States, Japan, South Korea, Russia, and China betray their struggle to find their individual positions on the geopolitical chess game. The condemnation by U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, NATO, the European Union, and the International Atomic Energy Agency, shows the wide spread deception practiced through these institutions. One is compelled to remember George Orwell,“In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"

Nowhere the universal deceit and arrogance is more evident than in the words of US President. "The danger posed by North Korea's threatening activities warrants further swift and credible action by the international community. The United States will also continue to take steps necessary to defend ourselves and our allies," President Obama said in released remarks.

These words of President Obama are a deceit because the United States even under President Obama is spending billions of dollars to perfect its nuclear weapons. Therefore the meaning that flows from the threatening words of Obama is, the United States which wages war against other countries without a cause would not allow any country to pick up ability to fight back the United States. North Korea as a self-respecting nation is developing its ability to fight back the unjust United States.

Just like the people of Iraq suffered more from the sanctions imposed against Iraq than from the alleged despotic rule of Saddam Hussain, the people of North Korea would suffer more from the sanctions than from the vicissitudes of socialistic rule in North Korea.

For these reasons it is meaningless to condemn the latest nuclear test by North Korea. The same reasons also would show that it would be inhuman and unjust to subject North Korea to any sanctions.

Buddhi Kota Subbarao is former Indian Navy Captain with Ph.D. in nuclear technology from Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Bombay and advocate of Supreme Court of India. E-mail : bksubbarao@gmail.com

This article was originally posted at Countercurrents.org
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Comrade MUQ, your thoughts?
Russia is reportedly sending military aid to Syria that seems designed to counter any attempt at military intervention from the US or other Western countries. US officials tell the New York Times that Russia has sent the regime new, radar-equipped anti-ship cruise missiles, weapons that could fend off an international naval blockade. To wit, one expert describes the Yakhont missiles as "a real ship killer." Russia has also sent at least a dozen warships to patrol the waters near its Syrian base, the Wall Street Journal reports. "It is a show of force," a US defense official says. "It's muscle flexing."
US officials responded yesterday by warning that Israeli airstrikes could target the missile shipments. The posturing comes even as the situation on the ground grows thornier; essentially the country has split in three, a dire front-page New York Times analysis concludes, with radical Islamists dominating a Sunni region in the north, Hezbollah and other pro-regime forces controlling the country's midsection, and Kurds staking out an autonomous region. "It is not that Syria is melting down," one analyst says. "It has melted down."
Just wait and watch, whatever they decided it wont have any good for Syrian people that is for sure.

My advice would be to leave them to their fate.
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Thank you for your feedback MUQ.

I am understanding Islam much better.

BUT, according to the Judeo/Christian Scriptures JESUS will come again to judge the living and the dead.

( All Humankind ).

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Revelation 3:10

10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

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Revelation 19:11-21

The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast

king of kings and lord of lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair,“Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”


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1 Thessalonians 4:14-18

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I am happy that you are trying to understand Islam.

Brother, the idea that Jesus will come down to earth to Judge people as Ruler and God is the "brain child" of St. Paul and his followers.

This is not what Jesus told people while he was alive.

Quotations from St. Paul and the book of revelation (no one knows who wrote that book) will only prove what I said.

Please look at the words of jesus recorded in the three Gospels and then reflect.

Jesus will surely come down to earth, near the end of time, but his mission would be to kill the Anti Christ, and not to judge the world.

Judging the world is the Prerogative of God, The Lord, the Master and Creator of this Universe and everything in it, including Jesus.

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