'The War Is Not Over'

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May 17, 2013
 
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Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to dictatorship.
Ignorant masses who have to be marginalized for their own good.
I do not believe in fairy tales!
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Thank you for your post.
Yes Jesus Christ shall return to earth to kill the Anti Christ. But you are forgetting that he will not come as "Ruler and Judge", he will come down as a "Muslim"...some thing which he always was.
Jews have done one mistake, rejecting him and his message.
Christians have done him much bigger mistake, making him God and equating him with God. This is a "Bigger sin" in theology than the first.
Equating some one whom God created with His ow personality? This is blasphemy of Highest Order.
Allah save all of us from repeating such words.
If you want to see the True face of Jesus, see him in Quran.
May you have peace.
Thank you for your feedback MUQ.

I am understanding Islam much better.

BUT, according to the Judeo/Christian Scriptures JESUS will come again to judge the living and the dead.

( All Humankind ).

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Revelation 3:10

10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

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Revelation 19:11-21

The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast

11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.“He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

king of kings and lord of lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair,“Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

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1 Thessalonians 4:14-18

14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
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Revelation 1

1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

Greetings and Doxology

4 John,

To the seven churches in the province of Asia:

Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”[b]
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”[c]
So shall it be! Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God,“who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

John’s Vision of Christ

9 I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. 10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, 11 which said:“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”

12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man,[d] dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said:“Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later. 20 The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels[e] of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
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May 17, 2013
 
henry wrote:
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Well, what a simple fairy tale!
Truth is stranger than fiction.
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May 17, 2013
 
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Billions of people also believed the Earth was the centre of the universe - that changed over time.
Billions of people also believed in creationism and not evolution - that changed over time.
Billions of people also believed that unbaptized dead children were stuck in purgatory - that changed over time.
Billions of people also believed that eating meat on a friday was a sin - that changed over time.
The rise of Agnosticism and Atheism proves that belief in God is changing over time.
I'm not anti religion by any means. I loe the idea of religion. But in think we need to go back to the drawing board with an open mind and objective look at the scriptures and holy texts of most religions.
I don't accept that the established churches and temples that interpreted scripture in medieval times got it right.
I think it all needs to be looked at with fresh untainted eyes.
And that includes lost scriptures, recently unearthed texts and everything in between.
How about trying this:

Just ask JESUS to show Himself too you.

If you truly have an open mind, then pray and meditate on the scriptures and ask JESUS for guidance.

CrimeaRiver, Remember that most all of the original Apostles died horrible deaths all because they would not deny that they saw JESUS come back from the dead.

They saw HIM come back.

I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
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May 17, 2013
 
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.
That is a fairly pointless way of looking at the world.

If you wish to live your life as a god fearing human, then that is your choice. But i wouldn't pu too much emphasis on biblical quotes that are ambiguous at best.

I will live my life as decently, compassionately and as respectfully as i can. If I get to the gates of heaven to be refused for not accepting Christ, then perhaps Christianity isn't as forgiving and as compassionate as it claims to be.

But more likely, I will die. And thats it.

Its better to create a paradise here on earth than to hope for a paradise in the afterlife.
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That is a fairly pointless way of looking at the world.
If you wish to live your life as a god fearing human, then that is your choice. But i wouldn't pu too much emphasis on biblical quotes that are ambiguous at best.
I will live my life as decently, compassionately and as respectfully as i can. If I get to the gates of heaven to be refused for not accepting Christ, then perhaps Christianity isn't as forgiving and as compassionate as it claims to be.
But more likely, I will die. And thats it.
Its better to create a paradise here on earth than to hope for a paradise in the afterlife.
God judges the heart and that is what counts.

All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.

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Matthew 7

Ask, Seek, Knock

7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
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God judges the heart and that is what counts.
All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.
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Matthew 7
Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Its near impossible to believe in a religion that assigns original sin to every human at the point of birth.

A child with no concept of sin or humanity is born a sinner and must absolve itself before Christ for salvation.

Come on - seriously?

Conversely - an actual sinner; rapists, murderers, child traffickers can be absolved from their disgusting deeds by repenting on their deathbed and asking for absolution.

Here is a faith where a man, a human man can excommunicate someone and deny their entry to a fabled heaven.

Again! seriously?

Your answers aren't filling me with much hope for humanity. It makes me sad that we have come so far, have acheieved so much, have unlocked so many secrets through research and study. We have split an atom, we have travelled to space, we have decoded ancient languages, we the ability replace hearts, lungs, kidneys, we have done so much. And yet there are still people who tell us that the only answers are through Jesus Christ.

Jesus - a man who supposedly saved us all through his martyrdom.

I fail to see how we've been saved or how his death resulted in salvation for mankind
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Its near impossible to believe in a religion that assigns original sin to every human at the point of birth.
A child with no concept of sin or humanity is born a sinner and must absolve itself before Christ for salvation.
Come on - seriously?
Conversely - an actual sinner; rapists, murderers, child traffickers can be absolved from their disgusting deeds by repenting on their deathbed and asking for absolution.
Here is a faith where a man, a human man can excommunicate someone and deny their entry to a fabled heaven.
Again! seriously?
Your answers aren't filling me with much hope for humanity. It makes me sad that we have come so far, have acheieved so much, have unlocked so many secrets through research and study. We have split an atom, we have travelled to space, we have decoded ancient languages, we the ability replace hearts, lungs, kidneys, we have done so much. And yet there are still people who tell us that the only answers are through Jesus Christ.
Jesus - a man who supposedly saved us all through his martyrdom.
I fail to see how we've been saved or how his death resulted in salvation for mankind
Can CrimeaRiver create the Sun?

Can CrimeaRiver create the Moon?

Can CrimeaRiver create the Stars?

Can CrimeaRiver create all Life?

I THINK NOT!

God gave all Humans free choice and Adam and Eve sinned.

It is that simple.

Nobody is perfect except for JESUS.

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Romans 3

Righteousness Through Faith

21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[h] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
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May 17, 2013
 
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Can CrimeaRiver create the Sun?
Can CrimeaRiver create the Moon?
Can CrimeaRiver create the Stars?
Can CrimeaRiver create all Life?
I THINK NOT!
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No I can't, nor do I pretend to know who or what did create those things.

Let's put it like this. Do you, as a Christian, believe that lifeforms exist on other planets? Is it something you can accept as a Christian?

If, 15 years from now we find evidence of extra terrestrials, how will that fit in with your beliefs.

I assume you believe the earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old. With all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, how can you still believe that
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God judges the heart and that is what counts.
All I'm saying is give JESUS a chance.
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Matthew 7
Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
And all I'm saying is give "Flying Spaghetti Monster" a chance!
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May 17, 2013
 
Comrade MUQ, your thoughts?

Russia is reportedly sending military aid to Syria that seems designed to counter any attempt at military intervention from the US or other Western countries. US officials tell the New York Times that Russia has sent the regime new, radar-equipped anti-ship cruise missiles, weapons that could fend off an international naval blockade. To wit, one expert describes the Yakhont missiles as "a real ship killer." Russia has also sent at least a dozen warships to patrol the waters near its Syrian base, the Wall Street Journal reports. "It is a show of force," a US defense official says. "It's muscle flexing."

US officials responded yesterday by warning that Israeli airstrikes could target the missile shipments. The posturing comes even as the situation on the ground grows thornier; essentially the country has split in three, a dire front-page New York Times analysis concludes, with radical Islamists dominating a Sunni region in the north, Hezbollah and other pro-regime forces controlling the country's midsection, and Kurds staking out an autonomous region. "It is not that Syria is melting down," one analyst says. "It has melted down."
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And all I'm saying is give "Flying Spaghetti Monster" a chance!
Question Francis...do you know the real reason why in this nations quest for self reliance why OBUMBLE opposes the Keystone pipeline project to pump high grade tar sands crude from Canada to the gulf coast refineries?

Ask yourself one question... What is it that Warren Buffet is so afraid of that he has paid and bought himself OBUMBLE to ensure approval of the project stalls? I bet Tinyearl knows the connection...
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May 17, 2013
 
Here's a little hint as to the intellect of your average GOPer:
New Poll shows that 46% of Republicans think that Benghazi is the Biggest Politcal Scandal Ever. One interesting thing about the voters who think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history is that 39% of them DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE IT IS!! 10% think it's in Egypt, 9% in Iran, 6% in Cuba, 5% in Syria, 4% in Iraq, and 1% each in North Korea with 4% not willing to venture a guess.
Now THAT's an informed group of voters!
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Question Francis...do you know the real reason why in this nations quest for self reliance why OBUMBLE opposes the Keystone pipeline project to pump high grade tar sands crude from Canada to the gulf coast refineries?
Ask yourself one question... What is it that Warren Buffet is so afraid of that he has paid and bought himself OBUMBLE to ensure approval of the project stalls? I bet Tinyearl knows the connection...
High-grade Tar Sand Oil is a misnomer – there is no such thing!
Canada’s tar sands formations, landlocked in northern Alberta, are a giant mess of carbon-saturated energy — a mixture of sand, clay and a gelatin like low-grade petroleum called bitumen. Pipelines are the best way to get this messy resource to market, but existing pipelines to the United States are almost full. So tar sands companies, and the Canadian government looking for revenue, is desperately searching for export routes via new pipelines. Even Canadians don’t support construction of the pipeline they want the bloody miss the Oil Companies created out of Alberta!
Tar sands production in Alberta is the world’s most environmentally damaging site. It wrecks vast areas of boreal forest through surface mining and subsurface production. It sucks up huge quantities of water from local rivers, turns it into toxic waste and dumps the contaminated water into tailing ponds that now cover nearly 70 square miles. The extraction and treatment to turn the tar into usable products requires more energy than it yields – any questions?
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How can you be right henry when there are Billions and Billions of people on planet earth who believe in GOD.
Truth has always right. A reality is the strongest truth! The reality is against Billion myths!
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How can you be right henry when there are Billions and Billions of people on planet earth who believe in GOD.
God is just a myth no more!
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May 17, 2013
 
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world average background radiation of 0.87 mSv/a from cosmic and terrestrial sources...varies by locations
Tell that Three Miles, Tchernobyl and Fukushima survivers!
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Andy wrote:
<quoted text>communism will never "rosed" again because people can't get along. Capitalism will always survive because people will not have to get along. They just have to compete. Communism can't compete.
In the nuclear Age mankind has no Chance to survive in a nuclear Inferno.
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ABs wrote:
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But radiation is and has always been present, ever before the dawn of the nuclear age...
So asked the People of Tchernobyl, Fukushima or Three Miles and so on!

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