'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276627 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287527 Apr 28, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
US firms hoarding $2 trillion / August 7, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/42wvhgh
Huge balances
US companies are holding $2T in cash on their balance sheets.
Here are the top 20 ranked cash positions for S&P 500 firms.
Top 20 Firms with cash
1. Citigroup $526B
2. JPMorgan Chase $414B
3. Wells Fargo $112B
4. General Electric $82B
5. Microsoft $53B
6. Google $39B
7. Oracle $29B
8. Apple $28B
9. Johnson & Johnson $27B
10. Pfizer $24B
11. Chevron $18B
12. Coca-Cola $14B
13. Intel $12B
14. IBM $12B
15. Exxon Mobil $10B
16. Walmart $9B
17. Schlumberger $5B
18. AT&T $4B
19. Procter & Gamble $3B
20. Philip Morris $2B
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/hoardin...
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.

So where is the cash they have?

Is it real or imaginary?
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#287528 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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What you said about priests is also true for Muslims too. Less than 0.1 % create all the problems you hear and 99.9 % are peaceful law abiding Muslims.
But did you see the hype in Media and Islam bashing all over the world?
Why not we use the same law for them?
Very true and I agree with you.

Correct me MUQ, if I am wrong.

Chuck Todd from MSNBC said recently that many of the rebels in Syria are al Qaeda connected.

I always understood that al Qaeda comes from Sunni Muslims and Iran and Syria are mostly Shiite Muslim.

In 2003 BUSH freed the Shiites in Iraq and today the Shiites are in control of the whole country, and loyal to Iran.

Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani
http://www.sistani.org/
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#287529 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
All wealthy e.g. Donald Trump get loans for new projects.

The Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden bailouts for Wall Street were supposed to help average Americans to get low interest loans.

NEVER HAPPENED.

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Bill Clinton: The Great Deregulator
September 10, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/culdhuu
Bill Clinton bears as much responsibility as any politician for the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and the wild applause for his disingenuous speech at the Democratic National Convention last week is a sure sign of the poverty of what passes for progressive politics.

Do those convention delegates, and the fawning media that were wowed by the former president’s rhetorical seductions, not recall that just before he left office Clinton signed off on the game-changing legislation that ended the sensible rules imposed on Wall Street during the Great Depression? It was Clinton who cooperated with the Republicans in reversing the legacy of FDR’s New Deal, opening the floodgates of unfettered avarice that almost drowned the world’s economy during the reign of George W. Bush.

How convenient to ignore the Financial Services Modernization Act, which Clinton signed into law to summarily end the Glass-Steagall barrier against the commingling of investment and commercial banking. Do the Democrats not remember that Citigroup, the first too-big-to-fail bank made legal by the law Clinton signed, became the $15 million employer of Robert Rubin, the Clinton treasury secretary who led the fight for the law that legalized the creation of Citigroup? Or that Citigroup—led by Sanford Weill, to whom Clinton gave one of the souvenir pens he used to approve that onerous legislation—went on to be a major player in the subprime mortgage swindles and had to be bailed out with more than $50 billion of taxpayer funds?
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/10-5...
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287532 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
Huh?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287533 Apr 29, 2013
the republican’s idea of “welfare”
http://www.doobybrain.com/2013/04/29/hong-kon...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287534 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What you said about priests is also true for Muslims too. Less than 0.1 % create all the problems you hear and 99.9 % are peaceful law abiding Muslims.
But did you see the hype in Media and Islam bashing all over the world?
Why not we use the same law for them?
.1%? That number appears a little low don't you think comrade? Lets face the facts...almost all regions currently in the world experiencing war, killing, genocide, aggression etc. are muslim regions...Syria...Lybia...Afri ca...has there ever been a time of peace in the muslim world?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287535 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
Not following you on this one comrade, perhaps Frankie can explain it to you why corporations worth billions go to get financing...probably a share the risk liability thingy but anyhoot, the bride and I just got back from holiday in Hawaii and Palm Desert California and I have a request for you muslims, please take over Palm Desert, seems to be a weekend MECCA for the neighbors of Gayfrancisco, frankie's area...nothing but gay men running around their golf course villa pools in underwear chasing each other...sickening. The local women say the most difficult thing to find in that area is a straight man, can you believe that sh*t? I'm so glad to be back home where real men live...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287536 Apr 29, 2013
OBUMBLE the ONE...the greatest president since....GWB the great...

Ultimately, Obama’s failure to close Guantánamo is due to an absence of will, not an absence of authority.- Baher Azmy on the president's claims that Congress has prevented him from closing Guantánamo

Barack Obama continues to ignore the Guantánamo Bay prison, even as "its continued existence is literally a matter of life and death," writes lawyer Baher Azmy in the Daily Beast. Azmy's firm represents a number of detainees who are on hunger strike within the prison, and he depicts the horrific scenes of them being kept alive by guards who strap them into chairs and force-feed them by shoving tubes through their noses, down their throats, and into their stomachs.

"I am tortured in the restraining chair," one client tells him. "All my limbs are restrained and my clothes soaked from vomiting the formula mixed with water and laxatives." These men consider enduring such horrors their only option for peaceful protest. President Obama could end this, if he'd just drop his own refusal to repatriate anyone to Yemen, the country from which 90 of the remaining 166 detainees hail. Obama may be making a "political calculation" by ignoring Guantánamo. "But, in so doing, he would be ignoring a more serious moral calculation," Azmy writes.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287537 Apr 29, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What the U.S. Bombing of Cambodia Tells Us About Obama's Drone Campaign

By Henry Grabar (Contd.)

William Shawcross, in 1979's Sideshow: Kissenger. Nixon and the Destruction of Cambodia , was the first to advance the theory that the meteoric rise of the Khmer Rouge was not in spite of the U.S. bombing campaign but because of it. Taylor Owen, the research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia, and Ben Kiernan, director of the Genocide Studies Program at Yale, have concluded that the full war archives, released by President Clinton in 2000, confirm this version of history.

"The impact of this bombing... is clearer than ever," they write. "Civilian casualties in Cambodia drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a coup d'etat in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately the Cambodian genocide."

In tactical terms, contemporary drone attacks are far more precise than the pell-mell Cambodia-era bombs. One comparison, though, remains apt: in both cases, the American government has been less than forthcoming about the effect of these weapons on local populations. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that between 2,500 and 3,500 people have been killed by drone strikes, including -- contrary to the recent statements of CIA nominee John Brennan -- between 473 and 893 civilians, and 176 children.(The classification of civilians has been called into question as well. The Obama administration reportedly "counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants," unless posthumously proved innocent.)

Owen and Kiernan saw the parallel to current anti-terror operations before the Department of Justice did. In 2010, they published a paper in The Asia-Pacific Journal called " Roots of U.S. Troubles in Afghanistan: Civilian Bombing Casualties and the Cambodian Precedent," in which they argue that incidents like the predator drone strike on a Pakistani village in 2006 created direct blowback.

This point of view is echoed by Pakistani journalist Mohammed Hanif, who recently argued that the strikes are not only radicalizing the population but are "creating a whole new generation of people who will grow up thinking that this is what happened to us and now, now we want revenge." In Pakistan and Yemen, Jo Becker and Scott Shane wrote in the New York Times, "drones have become the recruiting tool of choice for militants."

In this respect, the DOJ could not have found a more fitting precedent than the carpet-bombing of Cambodia. The purpose of the sustained bombardment from 1972 to 1973 was to prevent the Khmer Rouge from consolidating power. The result was the opposite.

The thousands of people killed so far by drone strikes represent a fraction of the several hundred thousand who died beneath the B-52s between 1969 and 1975. But the level of fear and anger -- and the opportunity for insurgent groups to harness those emotions -- cannot be so easily calculated.

In the words of retired General Stanley McChrystal, the former commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, one can't help but hear an echo of Charles Meyer, Richard Dudman, and other observers of the Cambodia campaign. "What scares me about the drone strikes is how they are perceived around the world," ..

This article was originally posted at The Atlantic
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287538 Apr 29, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
All wealthy e.g. Donald Trump get loans for new projects.
The Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden bailouts for Wall Street were supposed to help average Americans to get low interest loans.

NEVER HAPPENED.
..
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/10-5...
All these Big politicians are "indebted" to these big houses.

What they say to the public is just for public propaganda and what they really do helps only the super rich.

I heard that most of the senators and assembly members who drafted the Health Insurance Bill during the time of GWB the great, resigned and joined these Big Medical Insurance forms at Multi Dollar pay package.

They were "moles" inserted into the Political system by these Big Corporation.

USA is what they call "Capitalist" country and most of laws help only these Super Rich people.

When would USA be a Free Country is debatable.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287539 Apr 30, 2013
Democracy wrote:
Very true and I agree with you.

Correct me MUQ, if I am wrong.

Chuck Todd from MSNBC said recently that many of the rebels in Syria are al Qaeda connected.

I always understood that al Qaeda comes from Sunni Muslims and Iran and Syria are mostly Shiite Muslim.

In 2003 BUSH freed the Shiites in Iraq and today the Shiites are in control of the whole country, and loyal to Iran.

Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani
http://www.sistani.org/
Ans.

Al Qaeda has become a "Catch Word" in Western Media.

No one knows if any such organization exists or not.

Any one any every one can claim that he or she is a Member of Al Qaeda and "people" (by people I mean Media) accepts it on face value.

No question need be asked as to "How do you claim Al Qaeda membership, since your Boss is dead and no one knows who is the next boos".

Western Media need enemy, any type of enemy, to pump up their populations.

Now Al Qaeda has become "blame all" fall guy.

No one knows who is fighting with the Govt. in Syria. There is some loose organization of every one who is affected by the atrocities of the present Syrian Govt.

But to western media, they all are Al Qaeda Members, what can I say?

GWB the Great was an idiot, and the harm which he did to USA would take at least 100 years to heal.

The aim to attack Iraq was to remove a "potential enemy " of Israel. I don’t know if he cared who was ruling Iraq, Shia or Sunni.

And if you ask him what is difference between Shia and Sunni, he would reply "Who cares"? They are Muslims, why should I know or care whom we are killing!!

Such people are "Fit" to become US Presidents and rule Iraq by US laws!!

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287540 Apr 30, 2013
AB wrote:
1.

.1%? That number appears a little low don't you think comrade? Lets face the facts...almost all regions currently in the world experiencing war, killing, genocide, aggression etc. are muslim regions...Syria...Libya...Afri ca...has there ever been a time of peace in the muslim world?

2.

Not following you on this one comrade, perhaps Frankie can explain it to you why corporations worth billions go to get financing...probably a share the risk liability thingy but anyhoot, the bride and I just got back from holiday in Hawaii and Palm Desert California and I have a request for you muslims, please take over Palm Desert, seems to be a weekend MECCA for the neighbors of Gayfrancisco, frankie's area...nothing but gay men running around their golf course villa pools in underwear chasing each other...sickening. The local women say the most difficult thing to find in that area is a straight man, can you believe that sh*t? I'm so glad to be back home where real men live...
Ans.

1. According to me 0.1% was on the Higher Side!! Find out the number of Muslims living in the world and then count the Total Number of these so called "Terrorists", the figure would be less than 0.1 %!!

Perhaps you are not as good in calculations as you think!!

2. What I wanted to say is that it is Banks and Financial Institutions who have "Most of shares" of these Multi Billion Dollar Corporations. So it is these institutions who get "Biggest share of Pie".

In the same way, these corporations have Billions of Dollars of Cash but for new projects and even for "routine works" they take money from Banks and pay interest on them.

I know there are Economists who can explain "Every thing" . But some how, I do not follow their reasoning.

To me they do not make any sense, some one having Billions upon Billions as "Cash" with him, but "begging banks" to lend him money on Interest.
FoxNews

AOL

#287542 Apr 30, 2013
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**ISRAEL Discoveries PROVE JESUS' RETURN ----

http://youtu.be/JO2gm1pFtrs

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ABs

Aiken, SC

#287543 Apr 30, 2013
For Francis....enjoy!

Are you an Arizona law enforcement officer hoping to get guns off the street with a buyback program? Well good luck, because from now on, you'll have to sell those guns right back. Jan Brewer signed a law yesterday forcing cities to sell any guns they buy back, rather than destroying them as usual, Reuters reports. The law doesn't specify, however, what will happen to cities that fail to comply.

Supporters of the NRA-backed measure say local governments were wasting money by not grabbing the revenue to be had by reselling the guns. But opponents say it sort of defeats the purpose of the popular program. "This action by the governor is not only outrageous, but it is insensitive for us now to be putting these guns back on the streets," one Democratic state senator fumed. "That's just plain wrong."....oh boooo-hoooo....
ABs

Aiken, SC

#287544 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
1. According to me 0.1% was on the Higher Side!! Find out the number of Muslims living in the world and then count the Total Number of these so called "Terrorists", the figure would be less than 0.1 %!!
Perhaps you are not as good in calculations as you think!!
2. What I wanted to say is that it is Banks and Financial Institutions who have "Most of shares" of these Multi Billion Dollar Corporations. So it is these institutions who get "Biggest share of Pie".
In the same way, these corporations have Billions of Dollars of Cash but for new projects and even for "routine works" they take money from Banks and pay interest on them.
I know there are Economists who can explain "Every thing" . But some how, I do not follow their reasoning.
To me they do not make any sense, some one having Billions upon Billions as "Cash" with him, but "begging banks" to lend him money on Interest.
Same question comrade...has there ever been a long period of peace in any part of the muslim world?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#287545 Apr 30, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
1. According to me 0.1% was on the Higher Side!! Find out the number of Muslims living in the world and then count the Total Number of these so called "Terrorists", the figure would be less than 0.1 %!!
Perhaps you are not as good in calculations as you think!!
Agreed, Ibut what I may lack in calculus I make up for in smartassery...speaking of which... you mya want ot recalucalate your number to 0.1% PLUS 6 more muslim terrorists...

Six would-be terrorists have pleaded guilty to planning a terror attack in the UK last year, authorities announced today—although planning clearly wasn't their strong suit. Police say the men—Omar Khan, Zohaib Ahmed, Mohammed Hasseen, Mohammed Saud, Anzal Hussain, and Jewel Uddin—had planned to attack a rally of the right-wing English Defence League last June with guns, knives, and explosives. The tiny flaw in their scheme? They showed up after the rally had already ended, CNN reports.

After they did show up, police stopped one of their cars because it looked suspiciously beat up, and then seized it when it turned out to be uninsured. Inside they found two shotguns, kitchen knives, machetes, and an explosive device packed with nails and ball bearings. Oh, and lest there be any confusion about their intention, a note that proclaimed the EDL both the "English Drunkards League" and "enemies of Allah," and stated, "Today is a day of retaliation (especially) for your blasphemy of Allah and his Messenger Muhammad."
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287546 Apr 30, 2013
Uno de Mayo?.
Opening day for the public viewing of the George W. Bush Library and Museum is May 1, the day, ten years ago, that George W. Bush, flush with an aura of victory that was right up there with conquering Roman emperors such as Julius Caesar, made his now infamous landing on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.

Gdub landed on the carrier 30 miles off the coast of San Diego arriving in the co-pilot's seat of a Navy S-3B Viking (I’m sorry but the village idiot comes to mind). This dramatic moment on the flight deck had been choreographed to elevate his public image and to burnish the legacy of G. W. Bush as a great leader and brilliant military strategist.

With his pilot's helmet tucked under his arm, glowing with a self-congratulatory bearing, on May 1, 2003, Bush strode across the flight deck in his military airman's uniform with a “Mission Accomplished” banner waving overhead and proclaimed, "major combat operations in Iraq have ended." Oh, what a day to remember!

Unfortunately the fact remains, George W. Bush's legacy compares more aptly with another Roman emperor, Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287547 Apr 30, 2013
FoxNews wrote:
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**ISRAEL Discoveries PROVE JESUS' RETURN ----
http://youtu.be/JO2gm1pFtrs
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Ezekiel comes full circle?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287548 Apr 30, 2013
The Wall Street criminals are at it again Killing Dodd-Frank One Regulation at a Time! The already apathetic reforms enacted by Dodd-Frank are falling prey to business leaders, GOPer lawmakers and the son of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/wall_stre...
Linktv org

Oakdale, NY

#287549 Apr 30, 2013
spocko wrote:
The Wall Street criminals are at it again Killing Dodd-Frank One Regulation at a Time! The already apathetic reforms enacted by Dodd-Frank are falling prey to business leaders, GOPer lawmakers and the son of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/wall_stre...
Remember Frankie, Dodd/Frank is only a small band aid on a cancer.

They should have reinstated Glass/Steagall and stronger regulations so the Banks cannot steal again like they did in Oct. 1929.

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John McCain’s friend Fred Dalton Thompson : enabled S & L crisis of '80s
Please spread the word....this is not the type of man we want as President.
In 1975, Thompson began his eighteen year engagement as a lobbyist in Washington, D.C., eventually representing clients including Westinghouse, General Electric (the current corporate owner of the NBC Universal-NBC television network), Westinghouse used to own CBS TV and the Tennessee Savings and Loan League

By 1982, Thompson worked the U.S. Congress membership as a lobbyist for passage of the Savings and Loan deregulation legislation desired by the Tennessee Savings and Loan League --- in this case, federal deregulation legislation allowing for additional government support of ailing S&Ls; giving U.S. thrifts the freedom to invest in potentially more profitable, but riskier, ventures; and eliminating interest-rate ceilings on new accounts to increase S&Ls' competitiveness.

Enacted into law during in September 1982, the Senate bill pushed by Thompson was incorporated into the Garn - St Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982.
The Garn - St Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982 is widely credited with having laid the groundwork for the U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s

The savings and loans crashes of the 1980s, themselves directly the result of Reagan’s deregulation of the banking industry, is more interesting because of how it reflects the rapacious nature of unbridled capitalism than of Neil Bush himself. Who by the way, is now embroiled in another scam with his latest venture, educational software, Ignite
(turnover $20 million, much of it from educational subsidies obtained in the state of Florida ,where,‘coincidentally’ of course, his bro Jeb Bush, was governor).

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Government Bailouts: A U.S. Tradition Dating to Hamilton
SEPTEMBER 20, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/ygk788s
The bubble pops. Lenders freeze. Depositors lose faith. Panic spreads. And the government steps in because nobody else will.
Today it is Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke putting together the rescue package for a financial system rocked by falling home prices and a wave of defaults on subprime mortgages.
But a short walk through U.S. history demonstrates the point made by Alex J. Pollock of the American Enterprise Institute: "If you would like an empirical law of government behavior, it is that in a panic or threatened financial collapse, governments intervene -- every government, every party, every country, every time."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221866620360...

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