'The War Is Not Over'

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. Full Story
Henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#287175 Apr 5, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Ten years after the Bush-Cheney fiasco:
130,000 dead Iraqis
5,000 dead US troops
800,000 Iraqi orphans
1,400,000 Iraqis wounded and displaced
500,000 wounded US personnel
Taxpayer gets billed for $6 trillion
Mission accomplished?
Any questions?
What about the killed ones by nuclear hostilities?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287176 Apr 5, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
We are on our way to the nuclear inferno. There will be no more healthy humans perhaps no humans at all. That is the not too far future! We are on its way.
I wouldn't stress toooo much about nukular inferno hank...a meteor will hit the planet and erase us like the dinosaurs long before that happens. It is probably a good time for you to get your head right with the mighty wanka tonka...otherwise you may be forced to go to the same afterlife that the muslims that don't practice retaliation...wait ....maybe its the same afterlife that muslims that DO practice retaliation, I get so confused...maybe my comrade MUQ can straighten that out for you just in case you are ready to convert...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287177 Apr 5, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, the powers of nature including earth quakes, volcanos, tsunamis,cosmic catastrophs are additional hostile elements for mankind. Even an additional natural power to the nuclear desaster will be sufficient for our total extermination. For myself I am 85, so I don`t care. Like it or not that is the real future of mankind!
Sounds like a good time to move to New Zealand...never hear anything bad going on down there, eh hank?
ABs

Decatur, GA

#287180 Apr 5, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Every pessimists makes such statement. Instead of working to improve the situation that removes the road blocks to further Islamic Jihad….they try to do nothing.
And where is peace and security in the world now? Are not weak nations and people being devoured by the powerful nations and people?
02. Muslims are helping Gaza people as best as they can….but against it is Jewish and Zionist media that complaints as to why these people are getting outside help.
Probably they want them to starve to death.
03. Islamic Jihad is an struggle against corruption, tyranny, injustice and mischief in the lands. The struggle involves every thing, our pen, our tongues , our money and finally our lives.
04. Muslims are divided and fighting amongst themselves and "Non Muslims" are happy and hoping these fights never stop. They aid both the parties of the conflict and "see to it" no solution is reached.
But things are going to change, they would not remain like this till eternity.
1...So does that mean that you have no tolerance for passive muslims? Followers of such theologies as The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement who's premise is presenting Islam as peaceful, tolerant, rational, inspiring??? What a shame. I for one believe that movements such as theirs would bring one closer to Allah, wouldn't you think? Peace, tolerance, love...over violent jihad, murder and rape in the name of allah?

2...Muslims are helping Gaza as best they can??? Are you serious? There are almost a BILLION AND A HALF muslims in the world and this is their best at helping Gaza??? Surely you cannot be serious. If so then muslim best is not good enough...

3...But the question is, do you support peaceful jihad or violent jihad? I support peaceful...

4...Shi'ite and sunni will be killing each other alpha and omega...since beginning to the end...
ABs

Decatur, GA

#287181 Apr 5, 2013
Like I said COMRADE MUQ....Alpha and Omega! The only group sunni hate more than jews are Shi'ite...News you not hear on IRNA...

CAIRO — Dozens of ultraconservative protesters threw rocks at the residence of Iran’s top diplomat in Cairo to protest the Egyptian government’s attempt to improve ties with Tehran.

The protesters are upset about Iranian tourists who arrived in Egypt this week on the first commercial flights between the two countries in 30 years.

How about you comrade MUQ? Do you support the government of Syria like Ian does, or do you support the "freedom fighters"?

More News you may or may not hear on KSA radio...

Thousands march in funerals for Palestinians as tensions mount

Youths clash with Israeli soldiers during marches for slain teens, prisoner who died in custody.


After Persian New Year, new challenges for Iranians

Along with nuclear talks and a struggling economy, Iran faces volatile presidential election.

Violence erupted Friday after protesters hung a green-striped Syrian rebel flag on the gates of the diplomat’s residence. The protesters chanted against Shiite Tehran’s support of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime.

The Salafi protesters in Cairo, like other hard-liners in the region, consider Shiites heretics and fear Iran is trying to spread its practices among Sunnis.
ABs

Snellville, GA

#287182 Apr 5, 2013
OBUMBLE the Patronizer...

Obama's decision to give 5% of his salary back to the Treasury to match sequester cuts to government agencies is hardly the "sacrifice" it's getting made out to be, writes Dana Milbank in the Washington Post. Although $20,000 of his $400,000 salary is technically on par with cuts faced by federal workers, "the amount ... is so little for a man made wealthy by his political fame that it comes across as patronizing."

The Obamas reported a combined income of $8 million during the president's first three years in office, thanks to royalties from his best-selling memoirs. And that's nothing on the millions in appearance and speaking fees he'll rake in once he leaves the White House. "During World Wars I and II, there were 'dollar-a-year men' who left lucrative private-sector careers to serve their country in Washington," writes Milbank. "If Obama really wants to share in the furloughed workers’'sacrifice,' he should follow that honorable example and give back all but a dollar of his $400,000 salary. When he leaves office, he’ll be able to earn it back with a couple days’ work."
mook

Miller Place, NY

#287183 Apr 5, 2013
Republicans are Losers wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be joking, mook. First off, George W. Bush was so much more imperial than Obama. He demanded the utmost respect, and took pleasure and delight in giving others 'nicknames' which were demeaning and showed Bush's arrogance and 'fratboy' elitism.
And what's this about Reagan and jack-booted thugs? Do you consider DEA agents in full battle dress kicking in the doors of inner-city crack dealers' homes the act of 'jack-booted thugs?' Remember the War on Drugs? Remember "Just Say No?" Reagan loaded the federal prisons with drug criminals.
So you think Michelle Obama, whose relatives were whipped and beaten by white slavemasters, is a little hard on the white folks? Remember, mook, Barack has white relatives, but Michelle's relatives are all ex-slaves or their descendants. I guess you figure the slaves should be thankful their masters fed them at all. Maybe the rich slaveholders should not have bought the slaves in the first place, and just picked the cotton themselves.
mook, you old Nazi racist. Still got that thick German accent? Is old Himmler's portrait on your bedroom wall fading yet?
whAccording to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man.

Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted 50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.

Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619. In 1622 he was almost killed when Powhatan Indians attacked the farm. 52 out of 57 people on the farm perished in the attack. He married a female black servant while working on the farm.

When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.

Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacks to own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner.

Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670. In that year, the colonial assembly passed legislation permitting free whites, blacks, and Indians the right to own blacks as slaves.

By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa. This was the first effort to gently repatriate free blacks back to Africa. The modern nations of Sierra Leone and Liberia both originated as colonies of repatriated former black slaves.

However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

1. The democrats created the KKK
2. MLK was a republican LOL
3. slaves were property....bought from the black kings of good ol africa mun....still slaves there today wanker...you need to close your legs wankie....cus ya breath stinks!

WANKER!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#287184 Apr 5, 2013
ABs wrote:
OBUMBLE the Patronizer...
Obama's decision to give 5% of his salary back to the Treasury to match sequester cuts to government agencies is hardly the "sacrifice" it's getting made out to be, writes Dana Milbank in the Washington Post. Although $20,000 of his $400,000 salary is technically on par with cuts faced by federal workers, "the amount ... is so little for a man made wealthy by his political fame that it comes across as patronizing."
The Obamas reported a combined income of $8 million during the president's first three years in office, thanks to royalties from his best-selling memoirs. And that's nothing on the millions in appearance and speaking fees he'll rake in once he leaves the White House. "During World Wars I and II, there were 'dollar-a-year men' who left lucrative private-sector careers to serve their country in Washington," writes Milbank. "If Obama really wants to share in the furloughed workers’'sacrifice,' he should follow that honorable example and give back all but a dollar of his $400,000 salary. When he leaves office, he’ll be able to earn it back with a couple days’ work."
That's right my brainless-little-vermin-buddy, when those uppity negroes ares starting to make big money or, gawd forbid, occupy the white house (built by slave labor) it's time to get our America back - eh moron!!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#287185 Apr 5, 2013
The very rich are a lot like the rest of us when it comes to losing a job: They receive unemployment benefits, just the same as a millworker or office assistant.
What's startling about the trend is that the number of millionaires receiving unemployment benefits has skyrocketed, with nearly 3,200 households earning adjusted gross income of more than $1 million receiving jobless payments in 2011. That means the government shelled out $29.9 million in jobless benefits to million-dollar earners in 2011, according to Bloomberg, citing IRS data compiled by the media company.
mook

Miller Place, NY

#287186 Apr 5, 2013
Republicans are Losers wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be joking, mook. First off, George W. Bush was so much more imperial than Obama. He demanded the utmost respect, and took pleasure and delight in giving others 'nicknames' which were demeaning and showed Bush's arrogance and 'fratboy' elitism.
And what's this about Reagan and jack-booted thugs? Do you consider DEA agents in full battle dress kicking in the doors of inner-city crack dealers' homes the act of 'jack-booted thugs?' Remember the War on Drugs? Remember "Just Say No?" Reagan loaded the federal prisons with drug criminals.
So you think Michelle Obama, whose relatives were whipped and beaten by white slavemasters, is a little hard on the white folks? Remember, mook, Barack has white relatives, but Michelle's relatives are all ex-slaves or their descendants. I guess you figure the slaves should be thankful their masters fed them at all. Maybe the rich slaveholders should not have bought the slaves in the first place, and just picked the cotton themselves.
mook, you old Nazi racist. Still got that thick German accent? Is old Himmler's portrait on your bedroom wall fading yet?
LOL....hey wanker.....here you see the black man call the president the "N" word...LOL....i wonder if one of those 3000 black slave owners wus won of the ones who boughted mishells momma?...what say you seat sniffer? enjoy the feature film....love mookie

mook

Miller Place, NY

#287189 Apr 5, 2013
Jeremy Irons says he doesn’t really have a “strong feeling” about whether gay marriage should be legalized–but he seems to have an argument against it.

In a recent interview with Huffington Post Live, Irons spoke slowly and deliberately as he wondered whether legalizing gay marriage would encourage incest.

“Could a father not marry his son?” asked the Oscar winner, 64, who argued that as it stands, incest only exists to protect society from inbreeding, and “men don’t breed.” Plus, he said,”If I wanted to pass on my estate without death duties, I could marry my son and pass on my estate to him.”

And like others who have expressed concern over possible social ramifications of legalizing gay marriage, Irons, who said he doesn’t “have a strong feeling either way,” isn’t sure how it will effect the institution of marriage as a whole.

“I worry that it means somehow we debase or change what marriage is,” he says.“It seems to me that they’re fighting for the name.”

Still, regardless of what happens, the star of Showtime’s “The Borgias” wishes everyone in domestic partnerships well.

“Living with another animal, whether it be a husband or a dog, is great,” he said.“It’s lovely to have someone to love. I don’t think sex matters at all. What it’s called doesn’t matter at all.”



MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#287192 Apr 5, 2013
AB s wrote:
1...So does that mean that you have no tolerance for passive muslims? Followers of such theologies as The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement who's premise is presenting Islam as peaceful, tolerant, rational, inspiring??? What a shame. I for one believe that movements such as theirs would bring one closer to Allah, wouldn't you think? Peace, tolerance, love...over violent jihad, murder and rape in the name of allah?

2...Muslims are helping Gaza as best they can??? Are you serious? There are almost a BILLION AND A HALF muslims in the world and this is their best at helping Gaza??? Surely you cannot be serious. If so then muslim best is not good enough...

3...But the question is, do you support peaceful jihad or violent jihad? I support peaceful...

4...Shi'ite and sunni will be killing each other alpha and omega...since beginning to the end...
Ans.

1. Passive Muslims? Is that a New Term?
I am not aware of any such term in Islamic jurisprudence.

You are very naïve to even think that Ahamdiya's can bring peace to the world. They are not even Muslims. They have been declared as Non Muslims by all Islamic Scholars of our times.

2. Yes Muslims are doing what they can do for Gaza….do you think Jews and Christians are feeding them?

3. There is no difference between a Peaceful Jihad and Jihad with force. It depends on the circumstances. Muslims are now allowed to start hostilities; if the other side wants peace and peaceful terms.

4. In Islam there is no Shia and there is no Sunni. If Muslims get themselves divided, then that would be the result.

But you should do your best that they remain divided and fight with each other. Because the day they realize their mistakes, it would be really a bad day for you people.

Enjoy while you can!!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#287193 Apr 5, 2013
The madness that was Iraq War, listen from the Horse' Mouth Now Part- 5

Update: The Iraq War Ledger

A Look at the War’s Human, Financial, and Strategic Costs

Matthew Duss and Peter Juul December 2011

I. Diverted resources and attention from Afghanistan. Rather than stay and finish the job in Afghanistan as promised, the Bush administration turned its focus to Iraq beginning in 2002, in preparation for the 2003 invasion.

J. Special Forces specializing in regional languages were diverted from Afghanistan to Iraq, and Predator drones were sent to support the war in Iraq instead of the hunt for Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

K. Stifled democracy reform. While the Arab Awakening of 2011 is a potentially positive development, there’s no evidence that the Iraq war contributed to this in any positive way.

L. A 2010 RAND study concluded that, rather than becoming a beacon of democracy, the Iraq war hobbled the cause of political reform in the Middle East.

M. The report stated that “Iraq’s instability has become a convenient scarecrow neighboring regimes can use to delay
political reform by asserting that democratization inevitably leads to insecurity.”

N. Rather than supporting democratic forces in neighboring Syria, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- Maliki has repeatedly voiced support for Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.

O. Fueled sectarianism in region. The invasion of Iraq replaced a prominent Sunni Arab State with one largely controlled by Iraq’s Arab Shia majority.

P. While the end of the oppression of
Iraq’s Shia majority is a positive thing, this shift has exacerbated regional tensions between Shia and Sunni, including in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Lebanon, and Bahrain (where the U.S Fifth Fleet is based).

Q. Lingering disputes in Iraq between Sunni and Shia Arabs, Kurds, and
Turkmen also continue to invite exploitation by both state and non-state actors.

(Contd.)
Democracynow org

Oakdale, NY

#287194 Apr 6, 2013
The “new” Arab world through the Marx Brothers’ eyes
February 28, 2011/ by Michael Scheuer CIA Ret./http://tinyurl.com/6jvcpk 3

–1.) Security in Iraq continues to deteriorate, with one of the country’s biggest oil production facilities being shut down by an attack.

–2.) The U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan is still losing, and reports are multiplying that General Petraeus is seeking a new job before the house of cards he and his counter-insurgency experts built collapses.

–3.) The Yemeni regime — deemed a “key ally” by the Obama administration — appears to be losing what little control it had of the country.

–4.) Mubarak’s regime, which, whatever you think of it, was the strongest and most reliable ally of Washington and Israel in the region has been destroyed, and the transition from Mubarak to a military dictatorship is being billed as the “birth of democracy.”

–5.) Much of Libya’s oil production is shut down and domestic gasoline prices in the U.S. are headed for economic-growth killing $4.00 or more per gallon.

–6.) President Obama and his fellow NATO and UN interventionists are discussing Libya with “all options” on the table, presumably including neo-colonial combat forces if Qahdafi’s resolve to survive continues to harden and his forces make gains.

–7.) Al-Qaeda is irrelevant and history has passed it by, even as its two main goals are on they way to being met — the destruction of the Arab tyrannies and and the fatal weakening of Israel’s security — and its third goal is reaching fruition as President Obama presides over the retreat of U.S. forces from Afghanistan and Iraq with none of Washington’s pre-war goals accomplished.

–8.) Egypt’s long-closed border with Gaza is being opened, and Israel’s air force is merrily bombing the Gazans.

–9.) A bin-Laden inspired, Saudi student was arrested in Texas last week — without the usual FBI “sting”— for planning attacks on the U.S. energy sector. His motivation: Washington’s intervention in the Muslim world.(NB: There are now thirty-thousand Saudi students in the United States on easy-for-Saudis-to-get student visas.)

–10.) Up to 40,000 convicted Islamist militants, insurgents, theorists, and terrorists have been released from Mubarak’s prisons. Unknown numbers also have been released in Tunisia and Libya.
http://non-intervention.com/846/the-new-arab-...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#287196 Apr 6, 2013
“Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited…nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws concerning public safety forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

Justice Antonin Scalia, Heller v. D.C.

"More guns equal less crime!"
The fact is, gun sales in the US have hugely increased yet gun ownership has decreased which simply means that existing gun owners (gun nuts) have more guns than ever, rendering that argument to be bunk, a fabrication by the gun lobby.
John Lott Jr. wrote a controversial book titled More Guns, Less Crime that has been debunked by peer review. The Harvard Injury Control Research Center discovered a positive correlation between gun ownership and violence. Since the 1970's crime has been declining with gun ownership in the United States. However, recently gun ownership has been increasing and not surprisingly, violent crime.
The south is the most violent region in the country, and has the highest prevalence of gun carrying. The Johns Hopkins Center For Gun Policy and Research found that expanding conceal carry laws increases aggravated assaults. European countries have strikingly more stringent gun restrictions and less gun violence. Comparatively, 15 of the 25 worst mass shootings in the past 50 years have occurred in the US.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#287201 Apr 8, 2013
News you not hear on Hamas 3d TV..

Police in Gaza have an unusual new way of targeting youth: They're reportedly picking up young men with long or gelled hair and shaving their heads. Youths are hustled into Jeeps and mocked in the meantime, two victims tell the AP; beatings have been reported. Young people are also targeted for low-waisted pants as Hamas pushes fundamentalist views on the region. "They just take you from the street without reason," says one 19-year-old victim, Ayman al-Sayed, who had shoulder-length hair before it was shaved.

The head-shaving started last week; at least two dozen people were nabbed in multiple sweeps, victims say. At a police station, a cop shaved two lines on victims' heads and said they could get a barber to do the rest, says al-Sayed, noting that victims suffered beatings if they tried to stop the shaving. Gaza's deputy PM called the shaving "a very limited, isolated behavior of the police" that "is not going to continue." Now, some youths are fighting back: An 18-year-old, for example, has begun using gel after his friends were victimized. "I have nothing to lose except my hair," he says.

MUQ my dear comrade....when will this Muslim on Muslim violence ever end?
razzaz

Pittsburgh, PA

#287202 Apr 8, 2013
http://youtube.com/watch... ……
Excuses Are Reason,,
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#287203 Apr 8, 2013
Reality:
Why is it that if you take advantage of a corporate tax break you're a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something so your kids don't go hungry, you're a moocher?
The Reagan – Thatcher theory of "If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows" has made the rich immensely more rich while the middle has stagnated and the poor got poorer.

Rightwing reality:
I am the misunderstood superhero of American capitalism, single-handedly creating wealth and prosperity despite all the obstacles put in my way by employees, government and the media. I am entitled to all the rights and privileges of running an American company, but owe no loyalty to America, to workers or the taxpayer!
ABs

Covington, GA

#287206 Apr 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
1. Passive Muslims? Is that a New Term?
I am not aware of any such term in Islamic jurisprudence.
You are very naïve to even think that Ahamdiya's can bring peace to the world. They are not even Muslims. They have been declared as Non Muslims by all Islamic Scholars of our times.
2. Yes Muslims are doing what they can do for Gaza….do you think Jews and Christians are feeding them?
3. There is no difference between a Peaceful Jihad and Jihad with force. It depends on the circumstances. Muslims are now allowed to start hostilities; if the other side wants peace and peaceful terms.
4. In Islam there is no Shia and there is no Sunni. If Muslims get themselves divided, then that would be the result.
But you should do your best that they remain divided and fight with each other. Because the day they realize their mistakes, it would be really a bad day for you people.
Enjoy while you can!!
1...How dare you, comrade MUQ...how dare you belittle your muslim brothers and sisters so! Since when did allah give you and your clan the power to decide who is muslim and who is not? Please go to the Ahamdiyya webstie and tell them they are not muslim...
http://www.alislam.org/

2...If you muslims are doing ALL you can for Gazans, and there are over 1 billion of you, and you are Allah's chosen ones...all I can say is your best is NOT good enough...Gazans die as we speak, got it comrade?

3...I will not disrespect you by calling you a liar...instead I will simply say that there is a HUGE difference between peaceful jihad and jihad with force...you know this to be true but if you wish to pretend it is not so...allah forgive you, comrade...

4...Not sure who you are implying by BAD DAY FOR YOU PEOPLE, enjoy while you can...your threats don't scare me, boi! The sun and moon may vary but one fact will always remain as it has since the inception of a false religion based entirely on a false moon splitting...SUNNI HATE SHIA and SHIA HATE SUNNI more than they hate zionists...such is the cycle of muslim life...and such is your downfall...the day will never come when ALL muslims join together because to many of you are disillusioned rapists and murderers...in the name of allah of course! But I will say this about your pitiful threat of a bad day for us people...comrade MUQ...if the radicalism and hatred practiced by true ismalists like yourself is the enlightened way to the kingdom of allah, I choose hell...have a great day comrade...see you on the battlefield when you grow a pair of nads...good day sir
ABs

Covington, GA

#287207 Apr 8, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Reality:
Why is it that if you take advantage of a corporate tax break you're a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something so your kids don't go hungry, you're a moocher?

Rightwing reality:
I am the misunderstood superhero of American capitalism, single-handedly creating wealth and prosperity despite all the obstacles put in my way by employees, government and the media. I am entitled to all the rights and privileges of running an American company, but owe no loyalty to America, to workers or the taxpayer!
Why not be the one that takes advantage of the tax break? Simple, because bleeding heart take care of me because I am entitled to be cared for MOOCHERS don't pay taxes...duh....

Frankie lefty opinion = fact...I am entitled to sponging off the working class because I don't have the ambition or see the need to better myself and try to be self sufficient and a positive contributor to my american society...hey bro, can you spare a buck?

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