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mook

Miller Place, NY

#286950 Mar 12, 2013
Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles.
The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's? Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."
The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I've made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.
I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous.
I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress. I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people. The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. His arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?
Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.
I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to now being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world. Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same.
I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No president in history has spent over a million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.
mook

Miller Place, NY

#286951 Mar 12, 2013
part 2

And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.
I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.
Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.
I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.
As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood... Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.

just driving by! mook
ReligionOfpieces

Aiken, SC

#286953 Mar 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why no "drones" visited me then?
You think I am "lower" in rank?
Lower than the cook of OBL who is in GITMO?
More muslim lies...
An errant Palestinian rocket, not an Israeli airstrike, likely killed the baby of a BBC reporter during fighting in the Hamas-ruled territory last November, a UN report indicated, challenging the widely believed story behind an image that became a symbol of what Palestinians said was Israeli aggression. Omar al-Masharawi, an 11-month-old infant, was killed on Nov. 14, the first day of fighting.

An AP photograph showed Omar's anguished father, Jihad al-Masharawi, clutching his slain child wrapped in a shroud. Palestinians blamed Israel, and the image was broadcast around the world and widely shared on social media. Now a report from the UN office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights says the baby was "killed by what appeared to be a Palestinian rocket that fell short of Israel." Hamas and the BBC declined to comment
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286955 Mar 12, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Drones and Our National Religion

By David Swanson

February 12, 2013 "War Is A Crime" -- The national religion of the United States of America is nationalism. Its god is the flag. Its prayer is the pledge of allegiance.

The flag's powers include those of life and death, powers formerly possessed by traditional religions. Its myths are built around the sacrifice of lives to protect against the evils outside the nation. Its heroes are soldiers who make such sacrifices based on unquestioning faith. A "Dream Act" that would give citizenship to those immigrants who kill or die for the flag embodies the deepest dreams of flag worship. Its high priest is the Commander in Chief. Its slaughter of infidels is not protection of a nation otherwise engaged, but an act that in itself completely constitutes the nation as it is understood by its devotees. If the nation stopped killing it would cease to be.

What happens to myths like these when we discover that flying killer robots make better soldiers than soldiers do? Or when we learn that the president is using those flying robots to kill U.S. citizens? Which beliefs do we jettison to reduce the dissonance in our troubled brains?

Some 85% of U.S.ians, and shrinking rapidly, are theists. Flag worship may be on the decline as well, but its numbers are still high. A majority supports a ban on flag burning. A majority supports the power of the president to kill non-U.S.ians with drones, while a significantly smaller percentage supports the president's power to kill U.S. citizens with drones abroad. That is to say, if the high priest declares someone an enemy of god, many people believe he should have the power to kill that enemy ... unless that enemy is a U.S. citizen. In secular terms, which make this reality seem all the crazier, many of us support acts of murder based on the citizenship of the victim.

Of course, the Commander in Chief kills U.S. citizens all the time by sending them into wars. Drones don't change that. Drone pilots have committed suicide. Drone pilots have been targeted and killed by retaliatory suicide bombings. Drones have killed U.S. citizens through accidental "friendly" fire. The hostility that drones are generating abroad has motivated terrorist attacks and attempted attacks abroad and within the national borders of the United States.

But feeding corpses to our holy flag looks different when we're feeding them directly to the president's flying robots without a foreign intermediary. And yet to approximately a quarter of the U.S. public it doesn't look different after all. The president, in their own view, should have the power to kill them, or at least the power to kill anyone (including U.S. citizens) so contaminated as to be standing outside the United States of America -- a frightening and primitive realm that many U.S.ians have never visited and feel no need to ever visit.

Popular support for murder-by-president drops off significantly if "innocent civilians may also be killed." But a religious belief system perpetuates itself not through the positions it takes on existing facts so much as through its ability to select which facts one becomes aware of and which facts remain unknown.


MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286956 Mar 12, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are a good person with no ties to terrorist like UBL.
My guess is you are an educated professional working in the Kingdom, originally from India.
Certainly not a medical doctor like some think.
It is my understanding that SA is safe from drones.
But I would stay out of Yemen & Pakistan if I were you.
lol
Thanks for your testimony, I would keep it as a record during my "investigation" by CIA / FBI.

I am an Indian Engineer working in KSA for many years.

"No country" is safe from drones....they could always land in KSA instead of Yemen.

It would be a human error after all, what difference does it makes a few hundred miles (calculated in light years of course!!).

Did we not have similar "drones gone astray" incidents before?

Thanks any way for your "positive image" of me. I am much obliged.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286957 Mar 12, 2013
ReligionOfpieces wrote:
<quoted text>
More muslim lies...
An errant Palestinian rocket, not an Israeli airstrike, likely killed the baby of a BBC reporter during fighting in the Hamas-ruled territory last November, a UN report indicated, challenging the widely believed story behind an image that became a symbol of what Palestinians said was Israeli aggression. Omar al-Masharawi, an 11-month-old infant, was killed on Nov. 14, the first day of fighting.
An AP photograph showed Omar's anguished father, Jihad al-Masharawi, clutching his slain child wrapped in a shroud. Palestinians blamed Israel, and the image was broadcast around the world and widely shared on social media. Now a report from the UN office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights says the baby was "killed by what appeared to be a Palestinian rocket that fell short of Israel." Hamas and the BBC declined to comment
What about "images of Palestinians celebrating in the streets on the eve of 9/11"?

Those images were "widely distributed on the world media"....and they were fakes taken from some times earlier.

Why make so much fuss about it?

Since: Mar 13

Seattle, WA

#286958 Mar 12, 2013
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Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#286961 Mar 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your testimony, I would keep it as a record during my "investigation" by CIA / FBI.
I am an Indian Engineer working in KSA for many years.
"No country" is safe from drones....they could always land in KSA instead of Yemen.
It would be a human error after all, what difference does it makes a few hundred miles (calculated in light years of course!!).
Did we not have similar "drones gone astray" incidents before?
Thanks any way for your "positive image" of me. I am much obliged.
Your very welcome MUQ. You also have a good sense of humor.

My testimony is not worth much, but good luck anyway. LOL

I know most Muslims are good and law abiding citizens.

It is true no country is safe from drones, BUT, USA works closely with countries like SA and India for example, so a phone call would suffice.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#286962 Mar 13, 2013
mook wrote:
part 2
And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.
I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.
Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.
I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.
As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood... Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.
just driving by! mook
It has been a very long time since we heard from you mook.

When did "They" let you out? LOL

Welcome back.

BTW: Obama is a corporate hack loser just like Bush and Cheney.

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ABs

Decatur, GA

#286964 Mar 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your testimony, I would keep it as a record during my "investigation" by CIA / FBI.
I am an Indian Engineer working in KSA for many years.
"No country" is safe from drones....they could always land in KSA instead of Yemen.
It would be a human error after all, what difference does it makes a few hundred miles (calculated in light years of course!!).
Did we not have similar "drones gone astray" incidents before?
Thanks any way for your "positive image" of me. I am much obliged.
Heck comrade MUQ old friend, we all have a positive image of you, don't you know?

I am curious of something, were you born into islam or where you a convert?
ABs

Decatur, GA

#286965 Mar 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What about "images of Palestinians celebrating in the streets on the eve of 9/11"?
Those images were "widely distributed on the world media"....and they were fakes taken from some times earlier.
Why make so much fuss about it?
So what you trying to imply comrade? Does one immoral reprehensible act justify another? If jews deceive does that make it acceptable in the eyes of allah for muslims to deceive? I do not understand this rationalization, please explain. Thanks comrade...
ABs

Decatur, GA

#286966 Mar 13, 2013
mook wrote:
part 2
And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.
I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.
Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.
I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.
As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood... Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.
just driving by! mook
Why do you have to sugar coat your feelings all the time, mook? LOL...great to hear from you and as always wishing you and yours well...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286969 Mar 13, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Your very welcome MUQ. You also have a good sense of humor.
My testimony is not worth much, but good luck anyway. LOL
I know most Muslims are good and law abiding citizens.
It is true no country is safe from drones, BUT, USA works closely with countries like SA and India for example, so a phone call would suffice.
Thank you brother for your kind words.

I had a better sense of humor , but the years I have spent on these Topix Threads, has diluted it much.

Because most of times I hear abuses, insults and curses and this dampens the sense of humor.

Now that phone call, to whom I should make it? And I must not use my Mobile Phone, right?

Because Mobile Phone signals are a "sure shot" sign to trace you for "droning purpose"?

Why should I take the risk?

Things as they are might give me 10 % chances of survival, why should I blow it out?

PS:

And this is not posted with any sense of humor!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286970 Mar 13, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
So what you trying to imply comrade? Does one immoral reprehensible act justify another? If jews deceive does that make it acceptable in the eyes of allah for muslims to deceive? I do not understand this rationalization, please explain. Thanks comrade...
No these images are used to "stereo type" all Muslims in the world. Very few people read that those images were fakes, but most of them "saw" that Muslims world over celebrating 9/11.

And then there was no apology and no one was punished. These things are done with alarming regularity to malign a religion and a community.

Who am I at a personal level? But I belong to the biggest Universal Brotherhood in the world (despite all these problems)!!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286971 Mar 13, 2013
Did you know Gdub, the retarded son of Bush the Elder, can claim a number of world records? One of them is the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest him (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

George Bush Resume
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbus...
Therealnews com

Sayville, NY

#286972 Mar 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you brother for your kind words.
I had a better sense of humor , but the years I have spent on these Topix Threads, has diluted it much.
Because most of times I hear abuses, insults and curses and this dampens the sense of humor.
Now that phone call, to whom I should make it? And I must not use my Mobile Phone, right?
Because Mobile Phone signals are a "sure shot" sign to trace you for "droning purpose"?
Why should I take the risk?
Things as they are might give me 10 % chances of survival, why should I blow it out?
PS:
And this is not posted with any sense of humor!!
Don't let the insults bother you. Just let it bounce off.

In my country we have a saying: Sticks and Stones can brake your bones but names can never harm me. lol

I think you misinterpreted my post MUQ.

There is no need to drone SA and India because the USA works closely with those countries.

A phone call is all they need to capture a predator and arrest them.

Good Police Work is all I'm saying.

P.S. It is good to have a sense of humor, it helps with your spirit.

And a vacation from topix is refreshing every once in a while. lol
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286973 Mar 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
No these images are used to "stereo type" all Muslims in the world. Very few people read that those images were fakes, but most of them "saw" that Muslims world over celebrating 9/11.
And then there was no apology and no one was punished. These things are done with alarming regularity to malign a religion and a community.
Who am I at a personal level? But I belong to the biggest Universal Brotherhood in the world (despite all these problems)!!
So is the answer that you are against ALL injustice or just muslim injustice? And I quote..."O ye who believe, stand out firmly for JUSTICE,as witness to Allah,even if it be against yourself, against your parents, against your relatives, whether it be rich or poor,for Allah Protects both."
Even your sacred book demands you speak out against injustice, yet you refuse to, why is that comrade Muq? Why you not condemn the injustice of the fake palestinian pictures falsely accusing Israel of killing the man's child when in fact it was done by hamas rockets as sharply as you attack jewish false accusations?...I speak out agains ALL injustice, got it comrade MUQ?

You never answered, comrade, were you born into islam or did you submit?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286975 Mar 15, 2013
AB s wrote:
So is the answer that you are against ALL injustice or just muslim injustice? And I quote..."O ye who believe, stand out firmly for JUSTICE, as witness to Allah, even if it be against yourself, against your parents, against your relatives, whether it be rich or poor ,f or Allah Protects both."

Even your sacred book demands you speak out against injustice, yet you refuse to, why is that comrade Muq? Why you not condemn the injustice of the fake Palestinian pictures falsely accusing Israel of killing the man's child when in fact it was done by hamas rockets as sharply as you attack jewish false accusations?...I speak out against ALL injustice, got it comrade MUQ?

You never answered, comrade, were you born into islam or did you submit?
Ans.

I am against all injustices, whether it be done by Muslims or Non Muslim.

I do not condone any act of violence done by any one in which any innocent men, women and children is killed.

I do not consider the faith of the person who was killed and the faith of the person who is killing them.

So my condemnation is general. And if any specific case is brought to my notice, I would condemn it.

A Muslim is not allowed to retaliate and kill innocent persons of other community, even if they are persecuted and killed by their enemies.

But what I have seen is that people use "different standards" when it involves killing by people of their Army, Police, and residents of their own country. They try to justify their killings and put the blame on other party.

Their aim is not to condemn killing of innocents, but just to put all the blame on the other side.

This is the type of position I do not tolerate.

PS:

I was born into a Muslim family, if that answers your question.
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#286976 Mar 15, 2013
Dan Rather talks about the corrupt Corporate media
http://tinyurl.com/axcfm88


Noam Chomsky - The Myth of the Liberal Media
http://tinyurl.com/a8lxbyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286978 Mar 15, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Drones and Our National Religion

By David Swanson (Contd.)



Many U.S.ians have avoided knowing that U.S. citizens, including minors, have been targeted and killed, that women and children are on the list of those to be killed, that hundreds of civilian deaths have been documented by serious journalists including victims' names and identities, that U.S. peace activists went to Pakistan and met with victims' families, that the U.S. ambassador in Pakistan said there was a U.S. government count of how many civilians had been killed but he wouldn't say what it was,

that the vast majority of those killed are not important leaders in any organization, that people are targeted and killed without knowing their name, that people are targeted and killed merely for the act of trying to rescue victims of previous strikes, that the wounded outnumber the dead, that the traumatized outnumber the wounded, that the refugees who have fled the drone strikes are over a million, that the drone wars did not replace ground wars but began war making in new nations so destabilized now by the drone strikes that ground wars may develop, that some top U.S. military officials have said the drones are creating more new enemies than they kill, or that what drones are doing to our reputation abroad makes Abu Ghraib look like the fun and games our media pundits said it was.

If our courts killed without trials there would be by definition a risk of killing the innocent. The same should be understood when a president and his flying robots, or missiles, or night raids, kill without trial.

If we were being bombed we would not deem it any more acceptable to kill those who resisted than those who did not. Therefore, the category of "innocent civilian" (as distinct from guilty non-civilian) is suspect at best.

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