'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276672 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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ABs

Marietta, GA

#286803 Mar 2, 2013
Ney Frankie, can I have some more radioactive waste in my water please?

The inabilities of a lame duck coninued...quack-quack...

NUCLEAR SECURITY

Cleanup of radioactive waste at nuclear sites across the country would be delayed. The Energy Department says the cuts would postpone work at the department's highest-risk sites, including the Hanford Nuclear Reservation near Richland, Wash., where six tanks are leaking radioactive waste left over from decades of plutonium production for nuclear weapons. Other high-risk sites facing work delays are the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee, Savannah River Site in South Carolina and the Idaho National Laboratory.

The story also fails to mention the degraded Tank Farm at Savannah Rive that holds some of the most lethal toxic substances known to man and are on the verge of structural failure...but hey, everybody knows that the cancer rate in Barnwell area of South Carolina is the highest in the nation anyway, so no big deal...at least we now have normalized relations with Cuba and Iran is much FURTHER away from obtaining a nuclar bomb, so wtf..its all good...
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#286804 Mar 2, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, understood. But I also fully understand my new bff's mo also. The only way he would ever pi*s on you is if it would not interfere with the allah approved gasoline and match he used to light you on fire...
LOL

You have a terrific sense of humor.

Keep fighting the good fight with our friend in the desert.

10-4 Good Buddy!
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#286805 Mar 2, 2013
ABs wrote:
How Obumble's inability to mend the great divide will affect the nation:
DEFENSE
One of the Navy's premiere warships, the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman, sits pier-side in Norfolk, Va., its deployment to the Persian Gulf delayed. The carrier and its 5,000-person crew were to leave Feb. 8, along with the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg. The Navy also began plans to gradually shut down four of its air wings _ which include 50 to 60 aircraft each and are assigned to the carriers _ and delay and cancel the deployments of several other ships.
Furlough notices will begin going out later this month to about 800,000 defense department civilians, who will lose a day's pay each week for more than five months. The Army will let go more than 3,000 temporary and contract employees and beginning in April, it will cancel maintenance at depots which will force 5,000 more layoffs. The Air Force Thunderbirds and the Navy's Blue Angels will cancel air show appearances.
Veterans' funerals at Arlington National Cemetery could be cut to 24 a day from 31, meaning delays in burials for troops from past wars. Troops killed in action in Afghanistan will be the priority _ they are usually laid to rest within two weeks, Army spokesman George Wright said. But overall funerals would be reduced by about 160 a month because of furloughs among civilian employees who work with families to schedule services as well as furloughs among crews that dig the graves and do other grounds work.
Pentagon investments in countering cyberthreats and nuclear proliferation will be at risk, says Michael Vickers, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence. And the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, says the agency could be hit hard because it depends heavily on military and civilian personnel to accomplish its mission.
Coast Guard rescue aircraft will fly fewer hours and cutters will patrol the seas for fewer hours, says Commandant Adm. Robert J. Papp. Emergencies will be a priority and interdictions of illegal immigrants, drugs and illegal fishing could decline.
HOMELAND SECURITY
Hundreds of illegal immigrants have been freed from jail across the country. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say they had reviewed several hundred cases of immigrants and decided to put them on an "appropriate, more cost-effective form of supervised release" in a moved started Tuesday.
FOOD SAFETY
There could be an estimated 2,100 fewer food safety inspections and increased risks to consumers because of the cuts and the fact that lack of a new 2013 budget means the Food and Drug Administration is held at last year's spending level. Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Margaret Hamburg says most of the effects wouldn't be felt for a while, and the agency won't have to furlough workers.
HEALTH CARE
Hospitals, doctors and other Medicare providers will see a 2 percent cut in government reimbursements because once the cutback takes effect, Medicare will reimburse them at 98 cents on the dollar. But they aren't complaining because the pain could be a lot worse if President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans actually did reach a sweeping agreement to reduce federal deficits. Automatic cuts taking effect Friday would reduce Medicare spending by about $100 billion over a decade. But Obama had put on the table $400 billion in health care cuts, mainly from Medicare. And Republicans wanted more.
On the other hand, Obama's health overhaul law is expected to roll out on time and largely unscathed by the cuts. Part of the reason is that the law's major subsidies to help uninsured people buy private health coverage are structured as tax credits. So is the Affordable Care Act's assistance for small businesses. Tax credits have traditionally been exempted from automatic cuts.
But hey...at least we have obumblecare in place...
ABs, truth be told both Republicans in power or Democrats in power help their friends. NOT US.
Pdamerica org

West Sayville, NY

#286806 Mar 2, 2013
A POX ON BOTH PARTIES:

Bush Republicans Destroyed America / Dec 5, 2008
U.S. job losses worst since 1974 as recession bites / http://tinyurl.com/5lcvoq
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- U.S. employers axed payrolls by 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years and far more than expected, government data on Friday showed, as the year-old recession hammered every corner of the U.S. economy.
Oil prices and the dollar weakened and U.S. Treasury bond prices rallied on the news that confirms the recession was now hitting activity across the board.
"You can't get much uglier than this. The economy has just collapsed, and has gone into a free fall," said Richard Yamarone, chief economist at Argus Research in New York.
The Labor Department said the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent last month to the highest reading since 1993, compared with 6.5 percent in October.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE4...

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The Sequestering of Barack Obama
Robert Kuttner / February 26, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/aqa8cqv
President Obama has miscalculated both the tactical politics of the sequester and the depressive economic impact of budget cuts on the rest of his presidency. The sequester will cut economic growth in half this year. But it’s now clear, one way or another, that we will get cuts in the $85 billion range that the sequester mandates this fiscal year. All that remains are the details.
Obama’s miscalculation began in his fist term, with his embrace of the premise that substantial deficit cutting was both politically expected and economically necessary, and his appointment of the 2010 Bowles-Simpson Commission as the expression of that mistaken philosophy. Although the Commission’s plan was never carried out, its prestige and Obama’s parentage of it locked the president into a deflationary deficit reduction path./ http://prospect.org/article/sequestering-bara...
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286808 Mar 2, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

"In questions of power, then, let no more be said of confidence in man, but bind
him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson -
Kentucky Resolutions, 1798

"The human mind was not designed by evolutionary forces for finding truth. It was
designed for finding advantage" Albert Szent-Györgyi

"Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is." - Johann Wolfgang von
Goethe

February 12, 2013

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#286809 Mar 2, 2013
A Brief History Of The NRA
Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate formed the National Rifle Association in 1871. The primary goal of the association would be to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine editorial written by Church.
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snipped
Law enforcement training was on the priority list for program development. Although a special police school had been reinstated at Camp Perry in 1956, NRA became the only national trainer of law enforcement officers with the introduction of its NRA Police Firearms Instructor certification program in 1960.

Today, there are more than 10,000 NRA-certified police and security firearms instructors.

Additionally, top law enforcement shooters compete each year in eight different pistol and shotgun matches at the National Police Shooting Championships held in Jackson, Mississippi.
http://www.nrahq.org/history.asp
ABs

Marietta, GA

#286810 Mar 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
"In questions of power, then, let no more be said of confidence in man, but bind
him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson -
Kentucky Resolutions, 1798
"The human mind was not designed by evolutionary forces for finding truth. It was
designed for finding advantage" Albert Szent-Györgyi
"Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is." - Johann Wolfgang von
Goethe
February 12, 2013
"Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is." ...just curious comrade MUQ, does this apply to woman too?

Why you not talk to me anymore, comrade MUQ? Are you no longer my only muslim friend? I hope that you have not lost the will of allah to convince me that islam is the way and the light...why you run and hide in the face of adversity? We have so much to discuss...come back to the table my friend...don't hate me because I have different views than you...
ABs

Marietta, GA

#286811 Mar 3, 2013
News you won't hear or see on IRNA or the KSA Enquirer...the life and death of jihad...

The head of Chad's military has announced on state television that Chadian troops deployed in northern Mali killed Moktar Belmoktar, the international terrorist responsible for the attack on a natural gas plant in Algeria that resulted in the death of dozens of foreigners. The French military, which is leading the offensive in northern Mali, says it cannot confirm the information.

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Zakaria Ngobongue read a statement saying Chadian soldiers today had destroyed a jihadist base in the Adrar and Ifoghas mountains of North Mali, killing Belmoktar. The purported death of Belmoktar comes a day after Chad's president said their troops killed Abou Zeid, the other main al-Qaeda commander in the region...just curious, comrade MUQ, do jihadists that get hunted down and killed like rabid dogs while running and hiding get the same "Eternal Glory" as those that die in battle against the infidels?
ABs

Marietta, GA

#286812 Mar 3, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
ABs, truth be told both Republicans in power or Democrats in power help their friends. NOT US.
I understand that...that is why for the life of me I could not understand why you were so excited a few years back that obumble turned all those red states blue and why frankie is so bitter about the right today...they both have wall street interests first...
Democracynow org

West Sayville, NY

#286813 Mar 3, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand that...that is why for the life of me I could not understand why you were so excited a few years back that obumble turned all those red states blue and why frankie is so bitter about the right today...they both have wall street interests first...
I was totally astonished that a Black person could be elected president in 10 Bush Red States in 2008.

Obama even took 8 out of 10 Bush Red States in 2012, also too my surprise.

If you remember I did not vote for Obama in 2008 or 2012.

In 2008 Ralph Nader and Ron Paul had my support.

Not corporate Obama and Not corporate McCain.

Same is true with Obama/Romney.

I did have some small hope that Obama could have been the next FDR and implement policies to help our masses instead of benefiting the wealthy few.

Instead Obama continued Business as Usual.

frankie is absolutely correct about the corporate owned Rightwing in America.

Sadly, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are also corporate owned.

Pelosi is not different than any other Speaker of the House.

She passed out corporate funds to her members so they elected her Speaker.

As you aleady know, FOLLOW THE MONEY and it almost always leads to the TRUTH.

It is a Herculean Task but "We The People" have to stop voting for corporate Democrats and corporate Republicans.

We have to stop believing the corporate talking air heads on Mainstream and corporate Rightwing media.

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Cornel West on the Election of Barack Obama:“I Hope He Is a Progressive Lincoln, I Aspire to Be the Frederick Douglass to Put Pressure on Him”
Princeton University professor of religion and African American studies, Cornel West, speaks about the election of Barack Obama, his selection of Eric Holder to be Attorney General, the possible selection of Lawrence Summers to be Treasury Secretary and the role of the progressive left to push Obama./ November 19, 2008
West is the author of the new book Hope on a Tightrope: Words and Wisdom.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/19/cornel...

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Obama’s Royal Scam and The Iron Fist Of Rahm
Proof Obama is continuing 85% of all Bush/Cheney policy
January 1, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/ycnuljg
Audacity To Hope
Change We Can Believe In
Rule of Law
Accountability
Freedom From Lobbyists and Special Interests
Privacy
Harm From Illegal Surveillance
Constitutional Scholar
Transparency
Predatory Business Practices
Closing Guantanamo
Withdrawing From Iraq and Afghanistan
These are but some of the major buzzwords, issues and concepts Barack Obama based his candidacy and campaign on to convince the American electorate to sweep him in to office. Mr. Obama, however, has gone significantly in the opposite direction on each and every one since taking office. As Frank Rich noted, there is a growing “suspicion that Obama’s brilliant presidential campaign was as hollow as Tiger’s public image — a marketing scam…”.
Is there support for this allegation other than anecdotal evidence? Yes, and Micah Sifry has an excellent piece out detailing the basis:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/01/01/...
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One year ago, Ralph Nader on an Obama
One year ago on election night, The Real News spoke to presidential candidate Ralph Nader Pt1 / November 5, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/ahqb94e http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286815 Mar 3, 2013
-Web wrote:
A Brief History Of The NRA
Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate formed the National Rifle Association in 1871. The primary goal of the association would be to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine editorial written by Church.
--------
snipped
Law enforcement training was on the priority list for program development. Although a special police school had been reinstated at Camp Perry in 1956, NRA became the only national trainer of law enforcement officers with the introduction of its NRA Police Firearms Instructor certification program in 1960.
Today, there are more than 10,000 NRA-certified police and security firearms instructors.
Additionally, top law enforcement shooters compete each year in eight different pistol and shotgun matches at the National Police Shooting Championships held in Jackson, Mississippi.
http://www.nrahq.org/history.asp
You conveniently left out the other half of the story, starting in the sixties the NRA became a ruthless political lobby machine - they must be stopped!!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286816 Mar 3, 2013
Jeremy Goulet, who shot two police officers in Santa Cruz, served two years in prison for a gun crime, one of his many tangles with law enforcement in both military and civilian life. And his father described him as a "ticking time bomb" who would do anything to avoid going back behind bars. So how did this troubled man still have three handguns registered to him when two Santa Cruz police detectives arrived on his doorstep Tuesday, only to pay with their lives? How many more must die before the NRA and its mindless followers are going to come to their senses?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci...

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#286817 Mar 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Jeremy Goulet, who shot two police officers in Santa Cruz, served two years in prison for a gun crime, one of his many tangles with law enforcement in both military and civilian life. And his father described him as a "ticking time bomb" who would do anything to avoid going back behind bars. So how did this troubled man still have three handguns registered to him when two Santa Cruz police detectives arrived on his doorstep Tuesday, only to pay with their lives? How many more must die before the NRA and its mindless followers are going to come to their senses?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci...
The NRA did not kill the officers.
What do you propose?
Do you think gun owners should be rounded up and have their guns taken?
A gun does not kill someone unless a person pulls the trigger.

Taken from your link.
..........
Ironically, Connecticut is one of only two states that make it easier for authorities to seize weapons from unstable people.

If someone poses a risk of imminent injury to himself or others, Connecticut authorities can ask a judge for a warrant to seize that person's firearms without first taking the person into custody or to court; the owner is entitled to a hearing within 14 days.

ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286818 Mar 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Jeremy Goulet, who shot two police officers in Santa Cruz, served two years in prison for a gun crime, one of his many tangles with law enforcement in both military and civilian life. And his father described him as a "ticking time bomb" who would do anything to avoid going back behind bars. So how did this troubled man still have three handguns registered to him when two Santa Cruz police detectives arrived on his doorstep Tuesday, only to pay with their lives? How many more must die before the NRA and its mindless followers are going to come to their senses?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci...
What the PH uck does this have to do with the NRA? You are such a twit...

Federal law prohibits anyone who has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year from owning a gun. Goulet served two years because the judge gave him two consecutive one-year sentences for the two misdemeanors. But because neither crime was punishable by more than a year by itself, neither prohibited him from owning a gun...

But more laws should help, eh frankeh? what a maroone...thank god abortions can't be made retroactive because you would be a prime candidate if it were...it amazes me how often the truly dumarssed sperm wins the million tadpole race up the tube of life...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286819 Mar 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
You conveniently left out the other half of the story, starting in the sixties the NRA became a ruthless political lobby machine - they must be stopped!!
Oh my goodness...the evil NRA...kill...kill them all...lol...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286820 Mar 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Jeremy Goulet, who shot two police officers in Santa Cruz, served two years in prison for a gun crime, one of his many tangles with law enforcement in both military and civilian life. And his father described him as a "ticking time bomb" who would do anything to avoid going back behind bars. So how did this troubled man still have three handguns registered to him when two Santa Cruz police detectives arrived on his doorstep Tuesday, only to pay with their lives? How many more must die before the NRA and its mindless followers are going to come to their senses?
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci...
Ban nurses now!
A nurse at a senior living facility north of Los Angeles refused to administer CPR to an 87-year-old woman who was hardly breathing—and who later died, the LA Times reports. "It’s a human being," pleaded Bakersfield fire dispatcher Tracey Halvorson on a 911 tape recorded this week. "Is there anybody that’s willing to help this lady and not let her die?" The nurse paused and said, "Um, not at this time."

The nurse explained that Glenwood Gardens policy was not for staff to administer CPR. Halverson urged the nurse to hand the phone to "a passerby" to help the elderly woman, so the nurse turned to someone else: "She’s yelling at me and saying we have to have one of our residents perform CPR," the nurse said of the dispatcher. "I’m feeling stressed, and I’m not going to do that, make that call."
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286821 Mar 3, 2013
-Web wrote:
<quoted text>
The NRA did not kill the officers.
What do you propose?
Do you think gun owners should be rounded up and have their guns taken?
A gun does not kill someone unless a person pulls the trigger.
Taken from your link.
..........
Ironically, Connecticut is one of only two states that make it easier for authorities to seize weapons from unstable people.
If someone poses a risk of imminent injury to himself or others, Connecticut authorities can ask a judge for a warrant to seize that person's firearms without first taking the person into custody or to court; the owner is entitled to a hearing within 14 days.
Fisrst things fiest -- get a brain yemoron
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286824 Mar 4, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Fisrst things fiest -- get a brain yemoron
In frankly's world...

Was that another burgular, dear?

Why yes it was, honey. And he told me to quit point my revolver at him and go back to bed or he was going to call the police and tell them I have a gun!

Only in Frankie's world...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286826 Mar 4, 2013
LOL ... you can always count on the merciful benevolence of the almighty and only Allah!
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/03...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286827 Mar 4, 2013
Miami Muslim cleric Hafiz Khan was convicted of conspiracy and providing material support to terrorists today, charges that could, given his advanced age, land him in prison for the rest of his life. During the trial, prosecutors trotted out hundreds of FBI recordings in which Khan, 77, expressed support for the Taliban, for the killing of US soldiers, and for the violent overthrow of Pakistan's government, and discussed sending around $50,000 to Pakistan, the AP reports.

But Khan's attorney says he was lying about his extremist views in the hopes of getting an extremist to donate $1 million to Khan's Swat Valley madrassa—little suspecting that the extremist was actually an FBI agent. "That is not supporting terrorism," his attorney argued. "That is an old guy running a scam, who got scammed." Prosecutors called that defense "a lie," saying that the million-dollar offer didn't appear on the tapes. Khan now faces up to 15 years in prison for each of the four counts he was convicted on.

This sh*t don't fly in the US of A...got it comrade?

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