'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276634 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Henry

Thum, Germany

#286590 Feb 14, 2013
Forum Cruiser wrote:
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I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or just do not understand the term "nation building." This is what we are doing in Iraq/Afghanistan and that is why we are spending billions $$. Pres. Bush campaigned against nation building in a few of his pre-election speeches first term. Nation building is what costs lives and tons of money as we attempt to be benevolent in our treatment of a defeated nation.
Billionaires are not "nation building" but superprofits all the time! The best way to do it is war! Capitalism is always having wars!
Henry

Thum, Germany

#286591 Feb 14, 2013
Foxy is Foxy wrote:
the war is not over, in it's death throes...
the bucket is by it's foot, ready soon, for that kicking.
we can only pray, that it will go peacefully into the topix night.
It wasn't the war's fault, the hand of doom put it's touch on this place a long time ago and the result was inevitable.
In the nuclear age war can be useless for the power of nature in cooperation with an atomic inferno. We are on its way on the extermination of mankind!
Henry

Thum, Germany

#286592 Feb 14, 2013
You are a fuckwit wrote:
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Yes, Gid bless us, every one!
Not any god ever was. The thousands gods are just myths no more
Henry

Thum, Germany

#286593 Feb 14, 2013
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
Euphemisms Away!
A World in Which Truth is a Dying Species
By Gaither Stewart
Contd.
Some nature-loving gnome then had the genial idea of a military base-lily pad. Why? For what purpose? For it is not true that smaller, more mobile lily pad-like bases, remain hidden and much cheaper. Nor is it true that local people, even in the jungle of a Pacific island do not know about them, are blind to their presence. Soldiers in jungle clothing jogging through the bush are not invisible. That planes landing and taking off are unheard and unnoticed is absurd. The 1000 military bases today cost the U.S. taxpayer’s less? Not on your life, naïve taxpayer!
Is the U.S. objective to make less impact on local populations with a smaller presence, a less visible footprint and simultaneously perhaps offer employment to a few locals? Jamais de la vie! As if anyone in those secret Pentagon rooms gave one hoot in hell about those little brown people? Besides, just because a lily pad base appears to be the opposite of huge Ramstein or other city-like military bases in Germany and in the USA home territory itself doesn’t mean that what begins as a lily pad in Bulgaria will not quickly become small towns as well. Soldiers have to be offered comfortable living conditions, which means bars and shops and eating places and medical facilities and private rooms for many; it means no latrine cleaning and kitchen police jobs for soldiers; locals do that for low pay. Soldiers today demand to have their families with them, which means apartment blocks and private cars and schools and hospitals. Moreover, every job the lily pad gnomes remove from the USA and outsource abroad, means less jobs in America.
That 1000 lily pad bases across the world cost the American taxpayer less is thus an illusion, a false clue to the raison d’etre of the so-called lily pad bases. The law of the unstoppable growth of bureaucracy dictates that with enough time small bases will become big bases. That is the way of the world. You build runways and training grounds and a few barracks and voila, the initially Spartan lily pad grows into another Ramstein. Meanwhile, military bases, whether lily pads or Ramsteins, continue to erode what remains of the U.S. image the world over, exacerbating hate for the USA wherever they are found.
So why? Why the string of America’s military bases. Why the already failed experiment of tiny lily pads when all they mean is expanded U.S. militarization of the world? The why lies in the answer: it is part and parcel of American occupation of the world. The New World Order. The American Century.
Of course U.S. world domination remains the ultimate goal but the explanation is insufficient. Though a great part of the globe is already under U.S. domination, whether of the direct military sort or purely economic, there are still some hurdles to achieve total dominion. Not only obstacles but America’s own manias and phobias to be overcome.
For there remains Russia and China to be dealt with. Touchy subjects indeed. Though total madness to consider, war with either is possible but in my estimation not probable. In any case, it is a mistake to lump the two great nations together or even to attempt to juxtapose the two. Russia is Russia; China is China. Russia is a much more immediate problem for U.S. aims than is China. As the astute student of international affairs and Presidential candidate Mitt Romney said in the third presidential debate “Russia is America’s greatest enemy.”
Mitt Romney "forgot": nuclear infernos, and the power of nature (earthquakes, volcanos, asteroids, tsunamis, tornados and so on. Nature forget nothing. BTW: AKWs are more than a danger. They are deadly too! The greatest enemy of Amerca are the billionairs!
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286594 Feb 14, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Not any god ever was. The thousands gods are just myths no more
Howdy Hank..where you been? I and tinyearl miss trying to save your soul...you do have a soul don't you? I mean, isn't that why you care about humanity?
Obama is a corporate hack

New York, NY

#286595 Feb 14, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Of course, some billionaires rule the world. The targets are superprofits and this by wars. That is the hole secret of the small minority!
Yes, some Billionaires who are politically connected.

The Tax Code & The Pentagon are the largest.

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Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else
http://tinyurl.com/3ptn5qm / May 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ìthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/181339-1

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Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense
(And Stick You with the Bill) January 18, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/2yequa
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston joins us to talk about his new book,“Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill).” Johnston reveals how government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the poor and the middle class to the rich and politically connected.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lu...
Obama is a corporate hack

New York, NY

#286596 Feb 14, 2013
President Obama – Get Tough on Corporate Welfare
by Ralph Nader / February 12, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/apmd7fv
Ask anti-government ideologues about "welfare" and they are likely to tell you all about an increasingly large group of Americans who are dependent on government handouts. They might refer to the portion of the population who Mitt Romney famously called "the 47 percent," those who consider themselves to be "victims" entitled to government aid. It's actually quite an apt description for many companies such as Lockheed Martin, General Motors, Intel, Microsoft, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Boeing, Exxon Mobil, Verizon, PG&E and others.
The phenomenon of corporate welfare -- that is, the hundreds of billions of dollars regularly doled out to just about every large, profitable company in the United States -- is one that I have been challenging for decades. There are hundreds of programs in existence that directly or indirectly provide billions of dollars of taxpayer money to corporations. One might expect that a serious public discussion about curtailing excess "welfare spending" would focus on cutting these enormous handouts to rich corporations, not the small-by-comparison safety net for the poor. Yet somehow, many purveyors of the "stand-on-your-own-two-fe et responsibility" ideology do not apply the same standard to corporations on the dole./ http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/02/12-9...

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SOTU: Do Policy Proposals Live up to Rhetoric on Wages and Climate Change?/ February 13, 2013 / Video / http://tinyurl.com/b97eadr
Gerald Epstein: Language on wages and climate change could help shift the debate but policy proposals tied to interests of finance and private sector
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php...

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SOTU: Obama Opens Door to Grand Betrayal
Bill Black: President Obama offered up "reform" of Medicare and social security, that is cuts at a time of deep recession / February 13, 2013 / Video http://tinyurl.com/b9lkhkp
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php...

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SOTU: Do Policy Proposals Live up to Rhetoric on Wages and Climate Change?/ February 13, 2013 /
Gerald Epstein: Language on wages and climate change could help shift the debate but policy proposals tied to interests of finance and private sector
http://www.commondreams.org/video/2013/02/13
Obama is a corporate hack

New York, NY

#286598 Feb 14, 2013
ABs wrote:
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Howdy Hank..where you been? I and tinyearl miss trying to save your soul...you do have a soul don't you? I mean, isn't that why you care about humanity?
Good One!

Plus, the prayers of your Son are working.

BTW: I enjoy reading You and MUQ.

Both of you make good points.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286599 Feb 14, 2013
Obama is a corporate hack wrote:
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Good One!
Plus, the prayers of your Son are working.
BTW: I enjoy reading You and MUQ.
Both of you make good points.
Thanks Tinyearl...enjoy reading your stuff as well. I guess my comrade is re-grouping now that he has confirmed jewish intervention in writing of the Quran...I didn't see that one coming! Stay safe and warm amigo...
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286600 Feb 14, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Billionaires are not "nation building" but superprofits all the time! The best way to do it is war! Capitalism is always having wars!
Which shoe fits Hank?
SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other and then throws the milk
away.

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.

VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow has dropped dead.

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want
three cows.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don't know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5,000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment and high bovine productivity.
You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
Nobody believes you, so they bomb the crap out of you and invade your
country.
You still have no cows but at least you are now a Democracy.

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.

A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive.

A GREEK CORPORATION
You have two cows borrowed from French and German banks.
You eat both of them.
The banks call to collect their milk, but you cannot deliver so you call the
IMF.
The IMF loans you two cows.
You eat both of them.
The banks and the IMF call to collect their cows/milk.
You are out getting a haircut
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286601 Feb 14, 2013
A GOPer’s logic:
John Kerry, served in Vietnam, was wounded three times, received 3 purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star – he is labeled a “traitor”!

Ted Nugent, a loudmouth rocker, crapped in his pants to avoid military service but sleeps with an AR-15 next to his bed, verbally threatened the president’s life – he is labeled a “patriot”!

And yes, they want to govern the United States of America ... any questions?

Not only did the Secret Service investigate him but they interrogated the bloody fool for making threats against the President of the United States and members of his cabinet. Quote:“our president and attorney general, our vice president and Hillary Clinton, they’re criminals. We’re Americans because we defied the king ... we are patriots. We are Braveheart, we need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off come November.” We are talking about a guy who is bragging of riding into a battlefield when in fact he soiled his pants to avoid the draft – there is a genuine rightwing hero!!!!
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286602 Feb 14, 2013
Spocko wrote:
A GOPer’s logic:
John Kerry, served in Vietnam, was wounded three times, received 3 purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star – he is labeled a “traitor”!
Ted Nugent, a loudmouth rocker, crapped in his pants to avoid military service but sleeps with an AR-15 next to his bed, verbally threatened the president’s life – he is labeled a “patriot”!
And yes, they want to govern the United States of America ... any questions?
Not only did the Secret Service investigate him but they interrogated the bloody fool for making threats against the President of the United States and members of his cabinet. Quote:“our president and attorney general, our vice president and Hillary Clinton, they’re criminals. We’re Americans because we defied the king ... we are patriots. We are Braveheart, we need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off come November.” We are talking about a guy who is bragging of riding into a battlefield when in fact he soiled his pants to avoid the draft – there is a genuine rightwing hero!!!!
And I guess there is a point to your incessant ranting?

Kerry...another wall street hack looking out for corporate interests...any questions?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286603 Feb 14, 2013
ABs wrote:
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And I guess there is a point to your incessant ranting?
Kerry...another wall street hack looking out for corporate interests...any questions?
Life is stranger than fiction ain't it
Foxy is Foxy

United States

#286604 Feb 14, 2013
Think on your sins.

The war has kicked the bucket. The hand of doom has claimed it's prize.

*---------it's gone, now.

May it rest in peace.

RIP the War.
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#286605 Feb 15, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Life is stranger than fiction ain't it
Ban mines now, what need is there for mines capable of holding large clips of people?...and require anyone owning a mine to re-register their mine every year...

Eighteen people have been killed in an explosion at a north Russia coal mine, the AP reports, after a deadly methane buildup. Ten bodies have been recovered so far in the Komi region mine. An official tells Russian television that just 23 men were in the mine during the blast; two managed to get out on their own while three were rescued, he says.
ABs

Mcdonough, GA

#286606 Feb 15, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Life is stranger than fiction ain't it
Ban stampedes now...any anyone owning the thought of a stampede should be required to register that thought every year...and gatherings of large clips of people should also be banned just in case...

Fellow countrymen of muq, but they are not muslim so won't be going to heaven, just fyi...At least 10 people were killed and a dozen more injured today after a stampede broke out at a train station in the northern Indian town where millions of devout Hindus gathered for a religious festival dubbed the "largest human gathering in history." As many as 20 people are feared dead, and some 30 others injured. News reports said the large crowds caused a section of a footbridge at the station to collapse leading to the accident.
ABs

Oxford, GA

#286608 Feb 15, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Ban stampedes now...any anyone owning the thought of a stampede should be required to register that thought every year...and gatherings of large clips of people should also be banned just in case...
Fellow countrymen of muq, but they are not muslim so won't be going to heaven, just fyi...At least 10 people were killed and a dozen more injured today after a stampede broke out at a train station in the northern Indian town where millions of devout Hindus gathered for a religious festival dubbed the "largest human gathering in history." As many as 20 people are feared dead, and some 30 others injured. News reports said the large crowds caused a section of a footbridge at the station to collapse leading to the accident.
PEOPLE don't kill people...stampedes and mines do...
Foxy is Foxy

United States

#286609 Feb 15, 2013
FYI and to whom it may concern..

Did the war sign a living will back in 2006 or when the hand of doom first showed up (about the 5th post)? It is thought so.

Living Wills are needed because advances in topix allow certain types of posters to prolong and sustain life although the thread will not recover from a persistent vegetative state. Some threads would not desire to remain in that state while others would. Extending life when death is imminent to some threads is only extending the suffering and prolonging the dying process.

Think on your sins.

Foxy is Foxy.
Obama is not a liberal

New York, NY

#286610 Feb 15, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Which shoe fits Hank?
SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbor.
COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows
The State takes both and gives you some milk.
FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.
BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other and then throws the milk
away.
TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.
VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow has dropped dead.
A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want
three cows.
AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don't know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.
A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5,000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.
A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment and high bovine productivity.
You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.
AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.
A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.
AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
Nobody believes you, so they bomb the crap out of you and invade your
country.
You still have no cows but at least you are now a Democracy.
AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.
A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive.
A GREEK CORPORATION
You have two cows borrowed from French and German banks.
You eat both of them.
The banks call to collect their milk, but you cannot deliver so you call the
IMF.
The IMF loans you two cows.
You eat both of them.
The banks and the IMF call to collect their cows/milk.
You are out getting a haircut
Another Good One.

http://www.jokes.net/twocows.htm
Obama is not a liberal

New York, NY

#286611 Feb 15, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Tinyearl...enjoy reading your stuff as well. I guess my comrade is re-grouping now that he has confirmed jewish intervention in writing of the Quran...I didn't see that one coming! Stay safe and warm amigo...
Yes, too much snow. Time to move South. LOL

I did not know that about the old time Jewish Sages and the Quran.

All Scriptures are written by the Holy Spirit through humankind.

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2 Timothy 3:16-17

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

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