'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276683 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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rider

Gwinn, MI

#286450 Feb 2, 2013
Propaganda and Disinformation:
How the CIA Manufactures History

By Victor Marchetti

In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it. The vast clandestine apparatus we built up to prove our enemies' resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that vast army of clandestine personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous consequences for them and us.

-- Malcom Muggeridge, May 1966
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p305_Marchetti....
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286451 Feb 3, 2013
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286452 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
How true
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286454 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
Just do it...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286455 Feb 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
39 Photos That Prove Hillary Clinton Is — And Always Has Been — A Total Badass
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinto...
What...no pictures of whitewater and murder for hire?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286456 Feb 3, 2013
More news for MUQ...you will not hear on Fox or CNN

At least 33 people were killed in the Costa Rican city of Hoboken on Sunday when a suicide bomber detonated a truck packed with explosives outside a police headquarters and gunmen disguised as officers tried to storm the compound.

The blast was the third major attack in weeks in or near the multiethnic city of Roman Catholics and Southern Baptists, at the heart of a dispute between Cosa Rica's central Roman Catholic government and the autonomous Hoboken Southern Baptist region.

Police said the bomber triggered the huge blast near a side entrance to the police building, demolishing part of a government office nearby.

"A suicide bomber driving a vehicle packed with explosives hit the entrance of the headquarters and after the blast gunmen in explosive vests attacked with AK47s and grenades, but the guards killed them," a police official said.

Guards and emergency workers dragged bloodied survivors onto stretchers amid the wreckage of the blast, which left a large crater in the street.

Police said 33 were killed, including 12 employees at the government office. But a health official said only 16 bodies were at a hospital morgue and more than 90 were wounded.

The attack comes as insurgents linked to Al Southa Baptistes try to inflame sectarian conflict in Costa Rica, where a power-sharing government split among Southern Baptist majority and Southern Baptist minoity has been in crisis since the last U.S. troops left decades ago.

Seems the catholics and the baptists could learn from the relgion of peace how to get along, eh MUQ?
IAVA org

Bay Shore, NY

#286457 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
Good Luck.
VoteVets org

Bay Shore, NY

#286460 Feb 3, 2013
Turn out the lights....

.... The party is over!
VoteVets org

Bay Shore, NY

#286461 Feb 3, 2013
It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

What a comeback.

31-29
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286463 Feb 3, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Permanent Militarization of America

By AARON B. O’CONNELL

November 06, 2012 "NY Times" -- IN 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower left office warning of the growing power of the military-industrial complex in American life. Most people know the term the president popularized, but few remember his argument.

In his farewell address, Eisenhower called for a better equilibrium between military and domestic affairs in our economy, politics and culture. He worried that the defense industry’s search for profits would warp foreign policy and, conversely, that too much state control of the private sector would cause economic stagnation. He warned that unending preparations for war were incongruous with the nation’s history. He cautioned that war and warmaking took up too large a proportion of national life, with grave ramifications for our spiritual health.

The military-industrial complex has not emerged in quite the way Eisenhower envisioned. The United States spends an enormous sum on defense — over $700 billion last year, about half of all military spending in the world — but in terms of our total economy, it has steadily declined to less than 5 percent of gross domestic product from 14 percent in 1953. Defense-related research has not produced an ossified garrison state; in fact, it has yielded a host of beneficial technologies, from the Internet to civilian nuclear power to GPS navigation. The United States has an enormous armaments industry, but it has not hampered employment and economic growth. In fact, Congress’s favorite argument against reducing defense spending is the job loss such cuts would entail.

Nor has the private sector infected foreign policy in the way that Eisenhower warned. Foreign policy has become increasingly reliant on military solutions since World War II, but we are a long way from the Marines’ repeated occupations of Haiti, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic in the early 20th century, when commercial interests influenced military action. Of all the criticisms of the 2003 Iraq war, the idea that it was done to somehow magically decrease the cost of oil is the least credible. Though it’s true that mercenaries and contractors have exploited the wars of the past decade, hard decisions about the use of military force are made today much as they were in Eisenhower’s day: by the president, advised by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the National Security Council, and then more or less rubber-stamped by Congress. Corporations do not get a vote, at least not yet.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286464 Feb 3, 2013
But Eisenhower’s least heeded warning — concerning the spiritual effects of permanent preparations for war — is more important now than ever. Our culture has militarized considerably since Eisenhower’s era, and civilians, not the armed services, have been the principal cause. From lawmakers’ constant use of “support our troops” to justify defense spending, to TV programs and video games like “NCIS,”“Homeland” and “Call of Duty,” to NBC’s shameful and unreal reality show “Stars Earn Stripes,” Americans are subjected to a daily diet of stories that valorize the military while the storytellers pursue their own opportunistic political and commercial agendas. Of course, veterans should be thanked for serving their country, as should police officers, emergency workers and teachers. But no institution — particularly one financed by the taxpayers — should be immune from thoughtful criticism.

Like all institutions, the military works to enhance its public image, but this is just one element of militarization. Most of the political discourse on military matters comes from civilians, who are more vocal about “supporting our troops” than the troops themselves. It doesn’t help that there are fewer veterans in Congress today than at any previous point since World War II. Those who have served are less likely to offer unvarnished praise for the military, for it, like all institutions, has its own frustrations and failings. But for non-veterans — including about four-fifths of all members of Congress — there is only unequivocal, unhesitating adulation. The political costs of anything else are just too high.
GP org

Bay Shore, NY

#286465 Feb 4, 2013
Congrats John.

That was exciting especially the last 2-3 minutes.

You must have been shaking in your combat boots.

LOL
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#286466 Feb 4, 2013
The war will continue. The latest brought to you by "France". France home of pate and some tour that Lance took, now brings you a sequel to it's hit "Domination Colonization" comes "The Left Dictator Loves a Good Fight".
Stay tunes folks the US is bringing out the stars for its next feature "Pakistan Drones On". Over 10,000 killed and counting.
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#286467 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
But Eisenhower’s least heeded warning — concerning the spiritual effects of permanent preparations for war — is more important now than ever. Our culture has militarized considerably since Eisenhower’s era, and civilians, not the armed services, have been the principal cause. From lawmakers’ constant use of “support our troops” to justify defense spending, to TV programs and video games like “NCIS,”“Homeland” and “Call of Duty,” to NBC’s shameful and unreal reality show “Stars Earn Stripes,” Americans are subjected to a daily diet of stories that valorize the military while the storytellers pursue their own opportunistic political and commercial agendas. Of course, veterans should be thanked for serving their country, as should police officers, emergency workers and teachers. But no institution — particularly one financed by the taxpayers — should be immune from thoughtful criticism.
Like all institutions, the military works to enhance its public image, but this is just one element of militarization. Most of the political discourse on military matters comes from civilians, who are more vocal about “supporting our troops” than the troops themselves. It doesn’t help that there are fewer veterans in Congress today than at any previous point since World War II. Those who have served are less likely to offer unvarnished praise for the military, for it, like all institutions, has its own frustrations and failings. But for non-veterans — including about four-fifths of all members of Congress — there is only unequivocal, unhesitating adulation. The political costs of anything else are just too high.
The President and Congress love a good fight. As long as their a$$ isn't on the line. That's what the poor are for. In the US we are equal opportunity when it comes to fighting- now women will get their chance to kill.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286469 Feb 4, 2013
All hail the Ravens...congrats John
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286470 Feb 4, 2013
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
...and then more or less rubber-stamped by Congress. Corporations do not get a vote, at least not yet.
News you will not hear on IRNA...Costa Rican officials have raised the death toll in a suicide attack against anti-southern baptist fighters north of Hoboken to 18.

Two police officers say the southern baptist suicide bomber, who detonated his explosives belt on Monday among a group of roman catholics, killed at least 18 and wounding 42.

Three medical officials confirmed the casualties. All officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to release information to the media.

The blast comes a day after several suicide attackers on foot and in two explosives-laden cars hit a provincial police headquarters in Costa Del Rica, also north of Hoboken, killing at least 15 roman catholic people and wounding 90 roman catholic and southern baptist innocent by-standers...

Hey MUQ...I hear the the Israelis took out a chemical weapons factory in Syria as a bonus to the missiles they destroyed...why has Iran and Syria allowed Israel to attack unprovoked?
John_Pa

United States

#286471 Feb 4, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
It ain't over til the fat lady sings.
What a comeback.
31-29
"when the music 's over turn out the lights"
John_Pa

United States

#286472 Feb 4, 2013
GP org wrote:
Congrats John.
That was exciting especially the last 2-3 minutes.
You must have been shaking in your combat boots.
LOL
Ray Lewis said one final prayer. LOL
John_Pa

United States

#286473 Feb 4, 2013
Beat the Ravens Nevermore
Barry O

United States

#286474 Feb 4, 2013
John_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Ray Lewis said one final prayer. LOL
Way to go killer.

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