'The War Is Not Over'

Full story: Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.
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Foxy is Foxy

Indianapolis, IN

#286381 Jan 29, 2013
This thread was done in by the thread killer. It was inevitable from that first post, the doom was sealed.
Sandy

Champion, MI

#286382 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
It seems either this thread is dead ....
Or
The War is over!!
http://www.relaxohu.info/8-ways-to-tell-if-so...
Sandy

Champion, MI

#286384 Jan 29, 2013
howard stern interviews jesse ventura about 911 conspiracy

John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286386 Jan 30, 2013
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286387 Jan 30, 2013
John_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>you probably agree with Hilary. "What does it matter if four people are dead ? Or Rice"reaction to a video"
One Titanic passenger to another, "I really like these deck chairs." Will you remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness?
John_Pa

United States

#286388 Jan 30, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
One Titanic passenger to another, "I really like these deck chairs." Will you remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness?
let me know when your ship comes in
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286389 Jan 30, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
And don't forget the pink unicorns in black helicopters - yemoron -:/
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286392 Jan 30, 2013
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286393 Jan 30, 2013
Titanic (1943)- Commissioned by Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbles .
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286396 Jan 31, 2013
rider wrote:
Bush responsible? LOL
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286398 Jan 31, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
And don't forget the pink unicorns in black helicopters - yemoron -:/
SPEAKING OF MORONS...how ya doin francis?

Can't Blame Republicans For Chicago

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count: In the last 12 months 500 killed (murdered) in Chicago.

221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

President: Barack Hussein Obama

Senator: Dick Durbin

House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.

Governor: Pat Quinn

House leader: Mike Madigan

Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)

Mayor: Rahm Emanuel

The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.

Of course, they're all blaming each other.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.

And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us???

George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.

Of course he was replaced by Rod Blagojevich who is ... that's right, also in the big house.

And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago.

That is because he is fighting being sent to ... that's right, the big house.
The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286399 Jan 31, 2013
MUQ wrote:
It seems either this thread is dead ....
Or
The War is over!!
Ask Syria and Egypt...just heating up...many more muslims to be killed by muslims in your future...
Fox News Propaganda Liars

Bay Shore, NY

#286400 Jan 31, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Bush responsible? LOL
Bush was warned for 8 months about an al Qaeda attack inside the United States and DID NOTHING TO STOP IT.

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Proof Bush Is Guilty For September 11, 2001
http://tinyurl.com/2mp757

On July 10, 2001, Phoenix FBI agent Kenneth Williams sent a warning memo to FBI headquarters warning that middle eastern fundamentalist men were learning how to fly airplanes. Not learning how to take-off, and not learning how to land.

July 20, 2001 FBI warned Bush about planes being used as weapons in Genoa Italy G8 Summit.

On July 26, 2001, CBS News http://tinyurl.com/9s52o reported that John Ashcroft was warned by the FBI not to fly on commercial airlines.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...

On August 6, 2001, Ignorant "Iraqi Oil" Bush was warned by the CIA: Usama bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States.

On August 17, 2001, Minneapolis FBI agent Coleen Rowley sent a blistering 13 page letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller warning him the French Intelligence Service confirmed that Zacarias Moussaoui has affiliations with Usama bin Laden and connections with al Qaeda terrorists.

FBI agent Rowley also warned Director Mueller that Zacarias Moussaui took flying lessons in Oklahoma. Not learning how to take-off, and not learning how to land. Just learning how to fly. All Americans should impeach Bush for not protecting America on September 11, 2001.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/...

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F.A.A. Alerted on Qaeda in '98, 9/11 Panel Said
http://tinyurl.com/q5nzr September 14, 2005
American aviation officials were warned as early as 1998 that Al Qaeda could "seek to hijack a commercial jet and slam it into a U.S. landmark," according to previously secret portions of a report prepared last year by the Sept. 11 commission. The officials also realized months before the Sept. 11 attacks that two of the three airports used in the hijackings had suffered repeated security lapses.
Federal Aviation Administration officials were also warned in 2001 in a report prepared for the agency that airport screeners' ability to detect possible weapons had "declined significantly" in recent years, but little was done to remedy the problem, the Sept. 11 commission found.
The White House and many members of the commission, which has completed its official work, have been battling for more than a year over the release of the commission's report on aviation failures, which was completed in August 2004.
A heavily redacted version was released by the Bush administration in January, but commission members complained that the deleted material contained information critical to the public's understanding of what went wrong on Sept. 11. In response, the administration prepared a new public version of the report, which was posted Tuesday on the National Archives Web site.
While the new version still blacks out numerous references to particular shortcomings in aviation security, it restores dozens of other portions of the report that the administration had considered too sensitive for public release.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/politics/14...
Fox News Propaganda Liars

Bay Shore, NY

#286401 Jan 31, 2013
rider wrote:
Hoover Planned Mass Jailing in 1950
December 23, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/26s5jy
A newly declassified document shows that J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, had a plan to suspend habeas corpus and imprison some 12,000 Americans he suspected of disloyalty.
Hoover sent his plan to the White House on July 7, 1950, 12 days after the Korean War began. It envisioned putting suspect Americans in military prisons.
Hoover wanted President Harry S. Truman to proclaim the mass arrests necessary to “protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage.” The F.B.I would “apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous” to national security, Hoover’s proposal said. The arrests would be carried out under “a master warrant attached to a list of names” provided by the bureau.
The names were part of an index that Hoover had been compiling for years.“The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States,” he wrote.
“In order to make effective these apprehensions, the proclamation suspends the Writ of Habeas Corpus,” it said.
Habeas corpus, the right to seek relief from illegal detention, has been a fundamental principle of law for seven centuries. The Bush administration’s decision to hold suspects for years at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, has made habeas corpus a contentious issue for Congress and the Supreme Court today.
The Constitution says habeas corpus shall not be suspended “unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it.” The plan proposed by Hoover, the head of the F.B.I. from 1924 to 1972, stretched that clause to include “threatened invasion” or “attack upon United States troops in legally occupied territory.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/23/washington/...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286402 Jan 31, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Bush responsible? LOL
Yes! His name Samuel P Bush! http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bushes--a-...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286403 Jan 31, 2013
G.H. Walker & Co. was an investment banking and brokerage firm founded in 1900 by George Herbert Walker, grandfather and great-grandfather of Presidents George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush, and located at 1 Wall Street.

The firm was originally based in St. Louis, Missouri.

In July 1973, the firm acquired the securities brokerage business of Laird, Inc.[1] The company, later known as G.H. Walker, Laird & Co., was sold to White Weld & Co. in October 1974.[2][3] White Weld, in turn, was sold to Merrill Lynch in 1978.

Other notable former employees include Bill Donaldson, later founder of Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette and chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.[4] Bert Walker, later served as chairman and CEO of Stifel Financial in the late 1970s and 1980s.[5]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286404 Jan 31, 2013
White, Weld & Co. was founded in Boston in the nineteenth century, originally to finance overseas trade. It developed into a small, well-connected New York investment bank by the twentieth century and a bastion of the WASP establishment. For example, George Herbert Walker, Jr., uncle of the first President Bush, became an executive of White, Weld when his firm G. H. Walker & Co. was bought by them in the early 1970s. Charles J. Fuhrmann II, Paul Hallingby, Steve Hammerman, Harold Janeway, Charles C. Lee, Nigel S. MacEwan and George G. Montgomery, Jr. were Senior Vice Presidents and Roberts W. Brokaw was Vice President when the company was sold to Merrill Lynch. As stock markets became more retail-oriented and investment banking became more capital intensive, the firm decided it could not compete and put itself up for sale. One of the firm's most prominent transactions in its final period was the IPO of Walmart in 1970 with Stephens Inc. The firm's employees were known for frequently wearing white bucks as their footwear. Note that they frequently allowed these shoes to become exceedingly dirty and these became a symbol of the firm's status within the WASP establishment.

[edit] Relationship with Credit SuisseOne of its most successful ventures was an international investment banking partnership founded in 1970 by Robert L. Genillard as a Managing Partner of White, Weld & Co, with Credit Suisse, called ‘’Société Anonyme du Credit Suisse et de White Weld’’– or Credit Suisse White Weld. Sir John Craven, later head of Morgan Grenfell, led Credit Suisse White Weld from 1975 to 1978. Furthermore, Oswald Gruebel, Credit Suisse chief from 2004 to 2007, began his career in 1970 at Credit Suisse White Weld. When White Weld was purchased by Merrill Lynch, it left the partnership with Credit Suisse and was replaced by First Boston thus creating the Credit Suisse First Boston business in London. The Swiss private banking division of White Weld, founded in 1954 as White Weld & Co. AG, lives on as Clariden Bank.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286405 Jan 31, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
One Titanic passenger to another, "I really like these deck chairs." Will you remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness?
One gun control idiot to another gun control idiot...can't put the cat back in the bag...

The Chicago teen who was killed days after performing in President Obama's inauguration may have simply been in the "wrong place at the wrong time," Chicago's police superintendent says, calling the shooting a matter of "mistaken identity." The shooting, police believe, was part of a turf war among gangs, but Hadiya Pendleton herself had no gang links—nor, it appears, did any of those with her that day. The gunman, however, seemed to confuse the group with gang members. In other details from the case:

•Hadiya was a band majorette at the elite King College Prep; she hoped to go to Northwestern University, the Chicago Tribune reports.
•A friend of Hadiya rejects reports that the teen's friends abandoned her as they ran. "A man came up and shot at us about five times," the friend tells the Chicago Sun-Times. "We were running at about the same pace, and Hadiya said:‘I think I got shot,’ and slowed, then fell." A nurse who lived nearby arrived on the scene. "She told me to hold Hadiya’s hand, and I had her head in my lap," the friend said.
•There were no bullet casings on the scene, suggesting the shooter may have used a revolver. Officers are offering an $11,000 reward for information leading to the shooter's arrest, adds the Christian Science Monitor.
•"This guy, whoever he was, the gunman ... you took the light of my life," says dad Nathaniel Pendleton. "Just look at yourself and just know that you took a bright person, an innocent person, a non-violent person."
•The shooting prompted Telemundo to ask President Obama whether tight gun control laws like Chicago's really worked. "The problem is that a huge proportion of those guns come in from outside Chicago," he said, per the Tribune.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286406 Jan 31, 2013
Zapata Corporation is a holding company based in Rochester, New York, and originating from an oil company started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush. Various writers have alleged links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency. In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc.

In 1959, Zapata Corporation split into independent companies Zapata Petroleum, headed by the Liedtkes, and Zapata Off-Shore, headed by Bush funded with $800,000.[5] Bush moved his offices and family that year from Midland, Texas to Houston.

In the late-1950s and early-1960, Zapata Off-Shore concentrated its business in the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico, and the Central American coast.[6] The U.S. government began to auction off mineral rights to these areas in 1954. In 1958, drilling contracts with the seven large U.S. oil producers included wells 40 miles (64 km) north of Isabela, Cuba, near the island Cay Sal. In January 1959, the Cuban government of Fulgencio Batista was overthrown during the Cuban Revolution. Zapata also won a contract with Kuwait.

In 1960, Jorge Diaz Serrano of Mexico was put in touch with Bush by Dresser Industries. They created a new company, Perforaciones Marinas del Golfo, aka Permargo, in conjunction with Edwin Pauley of Pan American Petroleum, with whom Zapata had a previous offshore contract. The deal with Pemargo is not mentioned in Zapata's annual reports. In 1988, a Bush spokesman claimed that the deal lasted only from March to September 1960. Zapata sold Nola I to Pemargo in 1964.

In 1962, Bush was joined in Zapata Off-Shore by a fellow Yale Skull and Bones member, Robert Gow. By 1963, Zapata Off-Shore had four operational oil-drilling rigs—Scorpion (1956), Vinegaroon (1957), Sidewinder, and (in the Persian Gulf) Nola III.

In 1963, Zapata Petroleum merged with South Penn Oil and other companies, to become Pennzoil.

By 1964, Zapata Off-Shore had a number of subsidiaries, including: Seacat-Zapata Offshore Company (Persian Gulf), Zapata de Mexico, Zapata International Corporation, Zapata Mining Corporation, Zavala Oil Company, Zapata Overseas Corporation, and a 41% share of Amata Gas Corporation.

In 1964, Bush ran for the United States Senate, and lost; he continued as president of Zapata Off-Shore until 1966, when he sold his interest to his business partner, Robert Gow, and ran for the U.S. House of Representatives.

In 1966, William Stamps Farish III, age 28, joined the board of Zapata
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286407 Jan 31, 2013
Samual Bush-1863-1948
Bush 1's grandfather Became well-off running Buckey Steel 1908-1927. Took over for Frank Rockefeller 21 Did not profit from military spending after the war.
Prescott Bush 1895-1972
Bush 1's father First job was in St. Louis for fellow Yale Skull and Bones alumnus Wallace Simmons. Returned to Ohio, married Dorothy Walker, G.H. Walkers daughter, and managed a small rubber company. He eventually ended up in New York working for U.S. Rubber, a Harriman company. Two years later, at 31, he was made Vice President of W.A. Harriman Company.
George Herbert Walker,
1875-1953
Prescott's father-in - law Became wealthy owning G.H..Walker and Co, an investment company, did work for E.H. Harriman, owner of Union Pacific and did work
for J.P. Morgan 21-22 Ran recently formed W.A. Harriman Company set up by Rockefeller-headed National City Bank and Morgan connected Guaranty Trust 23
George Herbert Walker Jr.
1906- George 1's favorite uncle. 202 Walker Jr. was director of Cuban-Dominican sugar companies which merged with West Indies Sugar in 1942. 203
Personal Kennebunkport home built by Walkers in 1904 23 Both Walker SR and P. Bush develop a father son relationship though some feel the Walkers financially dominated Bushs. 24-25
Oil 1898 Germans clandestine oil exploration operation discovered in what is now Iraq. 249
S. Bush SR worked closely with Rockefeller's Ohio based Standard Oil. 151
Berlin to Baghdad railroad completed. 249
From Wikipedia3 Begun in 1903, completion was delayed for years by diplomatic obstructions from Russia, France, and Britain.
Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 gave postwar sphere of influence to Russia over the Bosporus and part of Anatolia, France got Lebanon, Syria, and oil rich Mosul, and Britain got Arabia, Palestine, the Baghdad area. 250
US has 2/3 of the worlds oil production, much going for the war. 250
End of Hapsburg Empire caused European nations to seek control of Mid-East Oil. Russia lost her share of the Middle East pie because of revolution. 250-251
Walker SR served as director of Petroleum Bond and Share, was involved in with Harriman's 1922 Russian oil investment company, the major developer on Baku oil field. Baku was close to modern-day Iraq so this is the time the
Bush family pursuit of the region's oil began. 251
Harriman purchased Dresser Manufacturing, an oil service company which later became Dresser Industries. Harriman's managing partner Prescott Bush rigorously supervised Yale classmate Neil Mallon, installed as Dresser's president. 152
Business
Walker SR owned and sold Missouri based Laclede Gas Company. 151
Book entitled Merchants of Death published in 1934 blame munitions makers for WWI. A senate special committee went after FDR's political enemies like the du Ponts munitions empire. FDR chilled when the committee began looking to embarrass government officials. 260 W.A. Harriman and Co. merged and became Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH). 24
Wall Streeters A. Harriman, G. Walker, Clarence Dillon and John FosterDullas, and Alan Dulles were very involved with $2 billion controversial investments made to German and Russia industries. They held these investments well into WW2. 37, 186, 192
Politics Alas for Berlin, the Turco-German "holy war" to stir a 1914-15 Muslim revolution in the Russian Caucasus against British authority in Persia and India accomplished little. Averell Harriman, keeping his financial stake in BBH and became FDR's emissary to Churchill and Lend-Lease administrator.
Hitler became chancellor, insures an oil supply from Romania, and began a hugely successful synthetic fuels program
Military Samual Bush, an Ohio Democrat, served in and became director of the War Industrial Board(WIB) in Washington. 182 While S. Bush and G.H. Walker profited from WWI, neither was mentioned in the popular literature in the so-called Merchant of Death hearings begun in 1934. 179
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