'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276670 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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ABs

Gadsden, AL

#286442 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
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When Will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has
“Economic sanctions are, at their core, a war against public health.”–The New England Journal of Medicine [1]
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News you will not see or hear on IRNA comrade muq...
Stupid mullah leaders of the Islamic Island Of Iran don't plan lie very well...one monkey with a mole, one without...

Iran announced with great fanfare this week that it launched a monkey into space and brought him home safely. Hold the trumpets, though: British newspapers the Times, the Telegraph, and the Independent now say, or at least strongly suggest, that Iran is lying. Why? In part because the monkey celebrated at a news conference after the supposed return trip looks different than the one that went up. One has some kind of a mole above the right eye and the other doesn't. The link to the Independent here has a decent before-and-after comparison.

"The likely explanations are either that the original monkey died during its flight and Iran didn't want to admit it, or that the flight never happened at all," writes Rosie Gray at BuzzFeed. Even before the monkey photos surfaced, BuzzFeed reported that scientists were skeptical that Iran could have achieved the feat.

Nice goings on over there in the muddle eastern islamic states of Syria, Egypt, UAE...thanks for keeping it interesting, comrade...any timeline on when the nations of islam join together?
ABs

Gadsden, AL

#286443 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
So what it needed for this thread to revive was "a small innocent comment"
Vow!!
There is nothing innocent about you, comrade MUQ...to be innocent you need to be free from hate...

Hey, speaking of hate, did you see where that pain in neck little rogue nation of the Israeli Republic of Jewdom took out that convoy of missiles heading from Syria to Hizbullah?
ABs

Gadsden, AL

#286444 Feb 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
...When Will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has
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A story to cheer you up Comrade MUQ...News you may hear on IRNA...your thoughts?

A suicide bomber detonated his explosives outside a Catholic cathedral in northwestern Costa Rica as worshippers were leaving sunday morning prayers, killing at least 21 people and wounding 36 in the latest apparent sectarian attack in the country, police said. Roman Catholics in Costa Rica have increasingly been targeted by radical Southern Baptists who consider them heretics, and 2012 was the bloodiest year for the minority sect in the country's history.

The bomber staged his attack at one of the cathedral's exits leading to a bazaar. Most of the dead and wounded were Roman catholics, but some of the casualties were also from the country's majority sect since there is a southern baptist church nearby, said a police officer. The town of Hoboken in Rica de la Costa province has experienced conflict in the past between the Roman Catholic and Southern Baptist communities that live in the town. Both sides have attacked each other's shops and burned them...

Sound eerily familiar comrade MUQ? Your thoughts?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286445 Feb 2, 2013
39 Photos That Prove Hillary Clinton Is — And Always Has Been — A Total Badass
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rider

Gwinn, MI

#286447 Feb 2, 2013
Victor Marchetti used the expression "cult of intelligence" to denounce what he viewed as a counterproductive mindset and culture of secrecy, elitism, amorality and lawlessness within and surrounding the Central Intelligence Agency in the service of American imperialism:

There exists in our nation today a powerful and dangerous secret cult -- the cult of intelligence. Its holy men are the clandestine professionals of the Central Intelligence Agency. Its patrons and protectors are the highest officials of the federal government. Its membership, extending far beyond governmental circles, reaches into the power centers of industry, commerce, finance, and labor. Its friends are many in the areas of important public influence -- the academic world and the communications media. The cult of intelligence is a secret fraternity of the American political aristocracy. The purpose of the cult is to further the foreign policies of the U.S. government by covert and usually illegal means, while at the same time containing the spread of its avowed enemy, communism. Traditionally, the cult's hope has been to foster a world order in which America would reign supreme, the unchallenged international leader. Today, however, that dream stands tarnished by time and frequent failures. Thus, the cult's objectives are now less grandiose, but no less disturbing. It seeks largely to advance America's self-appointed role as the dominant arbiter of social, economic, and political change in the awakening regions of Asia, Africa, and Latin America. And its worldwide war against communism has to some extent been reduced to a covert struggle to maintain a self-serving stability in the Third World, using whatever clandestine methods are available.[1]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286448 Feb 2, 2013
In his 1978 memoir, Honorable Men: My Life in the CIA, William Colby, a former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, endorsed Marchetti's critique and adopted the use of the expression "cult of intelligence":

Socially as well as professionally they cliqued together, forming a sealed fraternity. They ate together at their own special favorite restaurants; they partied almost only among themselves; their families drifted to each other, so their defenses did not always have to be up. In this way they increasingly separated themselves from the ordinary world and developed a rather skewed view of that world. Their own dedicated double life became the proper norm, and they looked down on the life of the rest of the citizenry. And out of this grew what was later named -- and condemned -- as the "cult" of intelligence, an inbred, distorted, elitist view of intelligence that held it to be above the normal processes of society, with its own rationale and justification, beyond the restraints of the Constitution, which applied to everything and everyone else.[7]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286449 Feb 2, 2013
Victor L. Marchetti, Jr.(born December 23, 1929)[1] is a former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and a prominent paleoconservative critic of the United States Intelligence Community and the Israel lobby in the United States.[2]

While serving as an active-duty American soldier, Marchetti was recruited into the intelligence agencies in 1952 during the Cold War to engage in espionage against East Germany. Marchetti joined the Central Intelligence Agency in 1955, working as a specialist on the USSR. He was a leading CIA expert on Third World aid, with a focus on USSR military supplies to Cuba after the end of the Kennedy administration.

In 1966 Marchetti was promoted to the office of special assistant to the Chief of Planning, Programming, and Budgeting, and a special assistant to CIA Director Richard Helms. Within three years Marchetti became disillusioned with the policies and practices of the CIA, and resigned in 1969, writing an exposé of the CIA in a book published in 1971 entitled The Rope Dancer.[3]

Later Marchetti published books critical of the CIA with author John D. Marks. The books included, The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence (1973).[4] Before this book was published, the CIA demanded that Marchetti remove 399 passages, but Marchetti stood firm and only 168 passages were censored. It is the first book the federal government of the United States ever went to court to censor before its publication. The publisher (Alfred A. Knopf) chose to publish the book with blanks for censored passages and with boldface type for passages that were challenged but later uncensored. The publication of this book was one of the events that led to the establishment of the Church Committee by Frank Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Marchetti
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286450 Feb 2, 2013
Propaganda and Disinformation:
How the CIA Manufactures History

By Victor Marchetti

In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it. The vast clandestine apparatus we built up to prove our enemies' resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that vast army of clandestine personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous consequences for them and us.

-- Malcom Muggeridge, May 1966
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p305_Marchetti....
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286451 Feb 3, 2013
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286452 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
How true
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286454 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
Just do it...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286455 Feb 3, 2013
Spocko wrote:
39 Photos That Prove Hillary Clinton Is — And Always Has Been — A Total Badass
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinto...
What...no pictures of whitewater and murder for hire?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286456 Feb 3, 2013
More news for MUQ...you will not hear on Fox or CNN

At least 33 people were killed in the Costa Rican city of Hoboken on Sunday when a suicide bomber detonated a truck packed with explosives outside a police headquarters and gunmen disguised as officers tried to storm the compound.

The blast was the third major attack in weeks in or near the multiethnic city of Roman Catholics and Southern Baptists, at the heart of a dispute between Cosa Rica's central Roman Catholic government and the autonomous Hoboken Southern Baptist region.

Police said the bomber triggered the huge blast near a side entrance to the police building, demolishing part of a government office nearby.

"A suicide bomber driving a vehicle packed with explosives hit the entrance of the headquarters and after the blast gunmen in explosive vests attacked with AK47s and grenades, but the guards killed them," a police official said.

Guards and emergency workers dragged bloodied survivors onto stretchers amid the wreckage of the blast, which left a large crater in the street.

Police said 33 were killed, including 12 employees at the government office. But a health official said only 16 bodies were at a hospital morgue and more than 90 were wounded.

The attack comes as insurgents linked to Al Southa Baptistes try to inflame sectarian conflict in Costa Rica, where a power-sharing government split among Southern Baptist majority and Southern Baptist minoity has been in crisis since the last U.S. troops left decades ago.

Seems the catholics and the baptists could learn from the relgion of peace how to get along, eh MUQ?
IAVA org

Bay Shore, NY

#286457 Feb 3, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Beat the Ravens Nevermore!
Good Luck.
VoteVets org

Bay Shore, NY

#286460 Feb 3, 2013
Turn out the lights....

.... The party is over!
VoteVets org

Bay Shore, NY

#286461 Feb 3, 2013
It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

What a comeback.

31-29
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286463 Feb 3, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

The Permanent Militarization of America

By AARON B. O’CONNELL

November 06, 2012 "NY Times" -- IN 1961, President Dwight D. Eisenhower left office warning of the growing power of the military-industrial complex in American life. Most people know the term the president popularized, but few remember his argument.

In his farewell address, Eisenhower called for a better equilibrium between military and domestic affairs in our economy, politics and culture. He worried that the defense industry’s search for profits would warp foreign policy and, conversely, that too much state control of the private sector would cause economic stagnation. He warned that unending preparations for war were incongruous with the nation’s history. He cautioned that war and warmaking took up too large a proportion of national life, with grave ramifications for our spiritual health.

The military-industrial complex has not emerged in quite the way Eisenhower envisioned. The United States spends an enormous sum on defense — over $700 billion last year, about half of all military spending in the world — but in terms of our total economy, it has steadily declined to less than 5 percent of gross domestic product from 14 percent in 1953. Defense-related research has not produced an ossified garrison state; in fact, it has yielded a host of beneficial technologies, from the Internet to civilian nuclear power to GPS navigation. The United States has an enormous armaments industry, but it has not hampered employment and economic growth. In fact, Congress’s favorite argument against reducing defense spending is the job loss such cuts would entail.

Nor has the private sector infected foreign policy in the way that Eisenhower warned. Foreign policy has become increasingly reliant on military solutions since World War II, but we are a long way from the Marines’ repeated occupations of Haiti, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic in the early 20th century, when commercial interests influenced military action. Of all the criticisms of the 2003 Iraq war, the idea that it was done to somehow magically decrease the cost of oil is the least credible. Though it’s true that mercenaries and contractors have exploited the wars of the past decade, hard decisions about the use of military force are made today much as they were in Eisenhower’s day: by the president, advised by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the National Security Council, and then more or less rubber-stamped by Congress. Corporations do not get a vote, at least not yet.

MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286464 Feb 3, 2013
But Eisenhower’s least heeded warning — concerning the spiritual effects of permanent preparations for war — is more important now than ever. Our culture has militarized considerably since Eisenhower’s era, and civilians, not the armed services, have been the principal cause. From lawmakers’ constant use of “support our troops” to justify defense spending, to TV programs and video games like “NCIS,”“Homeland” and “Call of Duty,” to NBC’s shameful and unreal reality show “Stars Earn Stripes,” Americans are subjected to a daily diet of stories that valorize the military while the storytellers pursue their own opportunistic political and commercial agendas. Of course, veterans should be thanked for serving their country, as should police officers, emergency workers and teachers. But no institution — particularly one financed by the taxpayers — should be immune from thoughtful criticism.

Like all institutions, the military works to enhance its public image, but this is just one element of militarization. Most of the political discourse on military matters comes from civilians, who are more vocal about “supporting our troops” than the troops themselves. It doesn’t help that there are fewer veterans in Congress today than at any previous point since World War II. Those who have served are less likely to offer unvarnished praise for the military, for it, like all institutions, has its own frustrations and failings. But for non-veterans — including about four-fifths of all members of Congress — there is only unequivocal, unhesitating adulation. The political costs of anything else are just too high.
GP org

Bay Shore, NY

#286465 Feb 4, 2013
Congrats John.

That was exciting especially the last 2-3 minutes.

You must have been shaking in your combat boots.

LOL
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#286466 Feb 4, 2013
The war will continue. The latest brought to you by "France". France home of pate and some tour that Lance took, now brings you a sequel to it's hit "Domination Colonization" comes "The Left Dictator Loves a Good Fight".
Stay tunes folks the US is bringing out the stars for its next feature "Pakistan Drones On". Over 10,000 killed and counting.

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