'The War Is Not Over'

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. Full Story
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286369 Jan 26, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>So what's your point. Bush did not overthrow Gaddafi. He just dismantled his nuclear program and ambitions. Along with other WMD. Thank Goodness a lot was moved to the States.
Others eliminated Gaddafi. My beef with the others is that they should have had better security for the State Dept people. They could have eliminated Al-Qaeda types and perhaps the Algerian gas plant attack might not have happened. It was reported that the same people were involved,
"they should have had better security for the State Dept people"? Duh!
Frank

Oakland, CA

#286370 Jan 26, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
"they should have had better security for the State Dept people"? Duh!
The small and lightly secured diplomatic mission in Benghazi served as a cover for a much larger covert CIA intelligence presence, centered in an “annex” located about a mile from the diplomatic mission. CIA agency officers based at the annex arrived at the besieged mission within 25 minutes of the initial attack.
John_Pa

Danielson, CT

#286371 Jan 26, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
"they should have had better security for the State Dept people"? Duh!
you probably agree with Hilary. "What does it matter if four people are dead ? Or Rice"reaction to a video"
John_Pa

Danielson, CT

#286372 Jan 26, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush opened the Middle East Floodgates and FREED the Muslims from their Dictators.
As you already know al Qaeda is Global and even if the Republican Congress did give the extra funding, it still might of happened in Benghazi.
Look how many attacks were on our Embassy in Iraq which is larger than the Vatican.
The Green Zone has the most protection in the world.
well at least it has protection. Muslims don't need dictators. Nor do they need to join Al-Qaeda elements.
Pdamerica org

Bay Shore, NY

#286374 Jan 26, 2013
John_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>well at least it has protection. Muslims don't need dictators. Nor do they need to join Al-Qaeda elements.
I agree.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286375 Jan 26, 2013
How have the GOPers persuaded America to buy into the myth of Obama THE BIG SPENDER when the opposite is true?!
• In fiscal 2010 (the first Obama budget) spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the
• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. CBO’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
When America has chosen to believe the horse manure produced by a NEWS agency consistently making false claims, promotes divisive behavior, bigotry and hatred, you will remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286378 Jan 26, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

When Will the Killing War in Iran Begin? It Already Has

“Economic sanctions are, at their core, a war against public health.”–The New England Journal of Medicine [1]

By Stephen Gowans

Contd.)

“The dangers posed today by such enfeebled, impoverished, and friendless states as Iraq and North Korea are minor indeed”, they wrote in 1999. It might be added that the dangers posed by Iran to the physical safety of US citizens are not only minor but infinitesimally small. Notwithstanding the fevered fantasies of rightwing commentators, Iran has neither the means, nor the required death wish, to strike the United States. Nor Israel, which has the means—an arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons—to wipe Iran off the face of the earth. However, the danger the country poses to the idea of US domination – and hence, to the banks, corporations, and major investors who dominate US policy-making – are admittedly somewhat greater.


“Severe economic sanctions”, the Muellers contend, ought to be “designated by the older label of ‘economic warfare’”.“In past wars economic embargoes caused huge numbers of deaths. Some 750,000 German civilians may have died because of the Allied naval blockade during World War I.”[5]

“So long as they can coordinate their efforts,” the two political scientists continue,“the big countries have at their disposal a credible, inexpensive and potent weapon for use against small and medium-sized foes. The dominant powers have shown that they can inflict enormous pain at remarkably little cost to themselves or the global economy. Indeed, in a matter of months or years whole economies can be devastated…”[6] And with devastated economies, come crumbling healthcare systems and failure to provide for the basic healthcare rights of the population.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286379 Jan 26, 2013


We might ask, then, why the United States and European Union, practitioners of economic warfare against Iran, are bent on destroying Iran’s economy, along with its public health system.“Sanctions,” New York Times’ reporter Rick Gladstone writes, have subjected “ordinary Iranians” to “increased deprivations” in order to “punish Iran for enriching uranium that the West suspects is a cover for developing the ability to make nuclear weapons.”[7] In other words, Iran is suspected of having a secret nuclear weapons program, and so must be sanctioned to force it to abandon it.

Contrary to Gladstone, the West doesn’t really believe that Tehran has a secret nuclear weapons program, yet even if we accept it does believe this, the position is indefensible. Why should Iranians be punished for developing a capability that the countries that have imposed sanctions already have?

The reason why, it will be said, is because Iranians are bent on developing nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. Didn’t Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threaten to “wipe Israel off the map”?

Regurgitated regularly by US hawks and Israeli politicians to mobilize support for the bombing of Iran, the claim is demagogic rubbish. Ahmadinejad predicted that Israel as a Zionist state would someday disappear much as South Africa as an apartheid state did. He didn’t threaten the physical destruction of Israel and expressed only the wish that historic Palestine would become a multinational democratic state of Arabs and the Jews whose ancestors arrived in Palestine before Zionist settlers.[8]

No less damaging to the argument that Iranians aspire to take Israel out in a hail of nuclear missiles is the reality that it would take decades for Iran to match Israel’s already formidable nuclear arsenal, if indeed it aspires to. For the foreseeable future, Israel is in a far better position to wipe Iran off the map. And given Israel’s penchant for flexing its US-built military muscle, is far more likely to be the wiper than wipee. Already it has almost wiped an entire people from the map of historic Palestine.

But this is irrelevant, for the premise that the West suspects Iran of developing a nuclear weapons capability is false. To be sure, the mass media endlessly recycle the fiction that the West suspects Iran’s uranium enrichment program is a cover for a nuclear weapons program, but who in the West suspects this? Not high officials of the US state, for they have repeatedly said that there’s no evidence that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program.

The consensus view of the United States’ 16 intelligence agencies is that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program years ago. Director of US intelligence James Clapper “said there was no evidence that (Iran) had made a decision on making a concerted push to build a weapon. David H. Petraeus, the C.I.A. director, concurred with that view…. Other senior United States officials, including Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have made similar statements.”[9]

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#286380 Jan 29, 2013
It seems either this thread is dead ....

Or

The War is over!!
Foxy is Foxy

Indianapolis, IN

#286381 Jan 29, 2013
This thread was done in by the thread killer. It was inevitable from that first post, the doom was sealed.
Sandy

Champion, MI

#286382 Jan 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
It seems either this thread is dead ....
Or
The War is over!!
http://www.relaxohu.info/8-ways-to-tell-if-so...
Sandy

Champion, MI

#286384 Jan 29, 2013
howard stern interviews jesse ventura about 911 conspiracy

John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286386 Jan 30, 2013
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286387 Jan 30, 2013
John_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>you probably agree with Hilary. "What does it matter if four people are dead ? Or Rice"reaction to a video"
One Titanic passenger to another, "I really like these deck chairs." Will you remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness?
John_Pa

United States

#286388 Jan 30, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
One Titanic passenger to another, "I really like these deck chairs." Will you remain ignorant in your anger and self-imposed blindness?
let me know when your ship comes in
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286389 Jan 30, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Fox News. Protecting us from Absolute Power everyday
And don't forget the pink unicorns in black helicopters - yemoron -:/
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286392 Jan 30, 2013
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286393 Jan 30, 2013
Titanic (1943)- Commissioned by Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbles .
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286396 Jan 31, 2013
rider wrote:
Bush responsible? LOL
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286398 Jan 31, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
And don't forget the pink unicorns in black helicopters - yemoron -:/
SPEAKING OF MORONS...how ya doin francis?

Can't Blame Republicans For Chicago

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count: In the last 12 months 500 killed (murdered) in Chicago.

221 killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

President: Barack Hussein Obama

Senator: Dick Durbin

House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.

Governor: Pat Quinn

House leader: Mike Madigan

Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)

Mayor: Rahm Emanuel

The leadership in Illinois - all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.

Of course, they're all blaming each other.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.

> Can't blame Republicans; there aren't any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.

And he is going to 'fix' Washington politics for us???

George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house.

Of course he was replaced by Rod Blagojevich who is ... that's right, also in the big house.

And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago.

That is because he is fighting being sent to ... that's right, the big house.
The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.

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