'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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John_Schuylkill County_Pa

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Jan 14, 2013
 
Boycott liberal Hollywood
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ABs wrote:
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One more win for Ray...way to go Ravens...heading to the dome today to watch my birds finally rise up...hopefully see you and Ray in the finals...
Don't you love how the Falcons were handed the game to them on a Seattle Platter
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Jan 15, 2013
 
Muslims will attack at the heart of France.
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John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Boycott liberal Hollywood
The phony baloney "Fiscal Cliff" increased the deficit 4 Trillion dollars which proves both parties do not represent average Americans.

NASCAR & Hollywood benefited.

Even Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and Dumbya Bush 6 times.

Fiscal Cliff, Debt Ceiling, etc etc. etc. is all smoke and mirrors.
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John_Pa

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Jan 15, 2013
 
VoteVets org wrote:
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The phony baloney "Fiscal Cliff" increased the deficit 4 Trillion dollars which proves both parties do not represent average Americans.
NASCAR & Hollywood benefited.
Even Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and Dumbya Bush 6 times.
Fiscal Cliff, Debt Ceiling, etc etc. etc. is all smoke and mirrors.
Jeeps to China
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Jan 15, 2013
 
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy
(Contd.)
America’s First Information Revolution

This distinctive U.S. system of imperial information gathering (and the surveillance and war-making practices that go with it) traces its origins to some brilliant American innovations in the management of textual, statistical, and visual data. Their sum was nothing less than a new information infrastructure with an unprecedented capacity for mass surveillance.

During two extraordinary decades, American inventions like Thomas Alva Edison’s quadruplex telegraph (1874), Philo Remington’s commercial typewriter (1874), Melvil Dewey’s library decimal system (1876), and Herman Hollerith’s patented punch card (1889) created synergies that led to the militarized application of America’s first information revolution. To pacify a determined guerrilla resistance that persisted in the Philippines for a decade after 1898, the U.S. colonial regime -- unlike European empires with their cultural studies of “Oriental civilizations”-- used these advanced information technologies to amass detailed empirical data on Philippine society. In this way, they forged an Argus-eyed security apparatus that played a major role in crushing the Filipino nationalist movement. The resulting colonial policing and surveillance system would also leave a lasting institutional imprint on the emerging American state.

When the U.S. entered World War I in 1917, the “father of U.S. military intelligence” Colonel Ralph Van Deman drew upon security methods he had developed years before in the Philippines to found the Army’s Military Intelligence Division. He recruited a staff that quickly grew from one (himself) to 1,700, deployed some 300,000 citizen-operatives to compile more than a million pages of surveillance reports on American citizens, and laid the foundations for a permanent domestic surveillance apparatus.

A version of this system rose to unparalleled success during World War II when Washington established the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) as the nation’s first worldwide espionage agency. Among its nine branches, Research & Analysis recruited a staff of nearly 2,000 academics who amassed 300,000 photographs, a million maps, and three million file cards, which they deployed in an information system via “indexing, cross-indexing, and counter-indexing” to answer countless tactical questions.

Yet by early 1944, the OSS found itself, in the words of historian Robin Winks,“drowning under the flow of information.” Many of the materials it had so carefully collected were left to molder in storage, unread and unprocessed. Despite its ambitious global reach, this first U.S. information regime, absent technological change, might well have collapsed under its own weight, slowing the flow of foreign intelligence that would prove so crucial for America’s exercise of global dominion after World War II.

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Jan 15, 2013
 
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you love how the Falcons were handed the game to them on a Seattle Platter

And guess who left the dome after Seattle scored and took the lead? Another in a long line of great moves by the AB'ster...could not stand to watch Matty Ice fail again...sure missed a hell of a finish...
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Jan 16, 2013
 
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Quite Right!
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Jan 16, 2013
 
Classified wrote:
Muslims will attack at the heart of France.
But how can that be? They are the religion of peace aren't they?
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The human species, led by white Europeans and Euro-Americans, has been on a 500-year-long planet-wide rampage of conquering, plundering, looting, exploiting and polluting the Earth—as well as killing the indigenous communities that stood in the way. The problem is made much worse by the widening gap between rich and poor, the upward concentration of wealth, which ensures there can never be enough to go around. The number of people in dire poverty today—about 2 billion—is greater than the world’s entire population in the early 1900s. Is that progress?
So what you are trying to say is that today there are 7 billion people or over 3 times the population of the world in the early 1900s that are NOT living in poverty, eh? Wow, now that IS grrrreat news, thanks for sharing.
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Lane Bryant, a manager in a scooter store scooter part time at Wal-Mart had the task of hiring someone to fill a job opening. After sorting through a stack of 20 resumes she found four people who were equally qualified. Jennifer decided to call the four in and ask them only one question. Their answer would determine which of them would get the job.

The day came and as the four sat around the conference room table, Jennifer asked,'What is the fastest thing you know of?'

The first man replied,'A THOUGHT.' It just pops into your head. There's no warning.

'That's very good!' replied Jennifer.
'And, now you sir?', she asked the second man.

'Hmmm..let me see 'A blink! It comes and goes and you don't know that it ever happened... A BLINK is the fastest thing I know of.'

'Excellent!' said Jennifer.'The blink of an eye, that's a very popular cliche for speed.' She then turned to the third man, who was contemplating his reply.

'Well, out at my dad's ranch, you step out of the house and on the wall there's a light switch. When you flip that switch, way out across the pasture the light on the barn comes on in less than an instant.'Yip, TURNING ON A LIGHT is the fastest thing I can think of.'

Jennifer was very impressed with the third answer and thought she had found her man
'It's hard to beat the speed of light,' she said.

Turning to Frankie, the fourth and final man, Jennifer posed the same question.

Old francis replied,'After hearing the previous three answers, it's obvious to me that the fastest thing known is DIARRHEA.'

'WHAT!?' said Jennifer, stunned by the response...

'Oh sure', said spocko frankly.'You see, the other day I wasn't feeling so good, and I ran for the bathroom, but before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHT, I had already shit my pants.'

Frankie is now the new greeter at a Wal-Mart near you!

“Never run from a fight.”

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The human species, led by white Europeans and Euro-Americans, has been on a 500-year-long planet-wide rampage of conquering, plundering, looting, exploiting and polluting the Earth—as well as killing the indigenous communities that stood in the way. The problem is made much worse by the widening gap between rich and poor, the upward concentration of wealth, which ensures there can never be enough to go around. The number of people in dire poverty today—about 2 billion—is greater than the world’s entire population in the early 1900s. Is that progress?
We have set in motion an enormous industrial machine of such complexity and such dependence on expansion that we do not know how to make do with less or move to a steady state in terms of our demands for wealth and power! There is a pattern in the past of civilization after civilization wearing out its welcome from nature, overexploiting its environment, overexpanding and overpopulating. They all have collapsed soon after they reached their period of greatest magnificence and prosperity.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_myth_...
Is there only a finite amount of wealth in the world? Prehistoric man must have been filthy rich and living in a paradise. Far better than we have it today-huh?
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Is there only a finite amount of wealth in the world? Prehistoric man must have been filthy rich and living in a paradise. Far better than we have it today-huh?
A rather self-serving comment don't you think ...:-)
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Americans were among the foreigners taken hostage today in an attack on a BP natural gas field in Algeria, US officials have confirmed. An al-Qaeda-affiliated Islamist group has claimed responsibility for the attack, calling it retaliation for France's incursion into Mali, Reuters reports. The militants are still occupying the gas field, according to BP, and they say they have up to 41 hostages, including seven Americans. Two foreigners were also killed in the attack.

Hillary Clinton has called Algeria's prime minister to discuss the attack, and Leon Panetta publicly said that the US "will take all necessary and proper steps" to deal with the "terrorist attack," the AP reports. Algeria's interior minister today insisted that his government "will not respond to terrorist demands, and rejects all negotiations," according to CBS.

Now gee, who would have seen that coming in one of the many peaceful loving muslim countries making the world a better place today?
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A rather self-serving comment don't you think ...:-)
What??? I'm with Dave, don't you find it fascinating that over 9 billion people live in less poverty than first man of the caves?
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What??? I'm with Dave, don't you find it fascinating that over 9 billion people live in less poverty than first man of the caves?
Of course you are ... so cavemen lived in poverty eh? I could swear is saw an article the other day that an archeologist unearthed a Porsche in one of the cave dwellings :-)
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Of course you are ... so cavemen lived in poverty eh? I could swear is saw an article the other day that an archeologist unearthed a Porsche in one of the cave dwellings :-)
Based on today's definition of poverty....yes they did. THat is why I don't put a lot of stock in stats and polls...

But I am willing to bet if you had asked Fred Flintstone, he was living the dream until a guvmint official came by and told him he was living in poverty...
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After six years of a failing counterinsurgency effort in Iraq, the Pentagon discovered the power of biometric identification and electronic surveillance to pacify the country’s sprawling cities. It then built a biometric database with more than a million Iraqi fingerprints and iris scans that U.S. patrols on the streets of Baghdad could access instantaneously by satellite link to a computer center in West Virginia.

When President Obama took office and launched his “surge,” escalating the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan, that country became a new frontier for testing and perfecting such biometric databases, as well as for full-scale drone war in both that country and the Pakistani tribal borderlands, the latest wrinkle in a technowar already loosed by the Bush administration. This meant accelerating technological developments in drone warfare that had largely been suspended for two decades after the Vietnam War.

Launched as an experimental, unarmed surveillance aircraft in 1994, the Predator drone was first deployed in 2000 for combat surveillance under the CIA’s “Operation Afghan Eyes.” By 2011, the advanced MQ-9 Reaper drone, with “persistent hunter killer” capabilities, was heavily armed with missiles and bombs as well as sensors that could read disturbed dirt at 5,000 feet and track footprints back to enemy installations. Indicating the torrid pace of drone development, between 2004 and 2010 total flying time for all unmanned vehicles rose from just 71 hours to 250,000 hours.
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News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy
(Contd.)

Computerizing Vietnam

Under the pressures of a never-ending war in Vietnam, those running the U.S. information infrastructure turned to computerized data management, launching a second American information regime. Powered by the most advanced IBM mainframe computers, the U.S. military compiled monthly tabulations of security in all of South Vietnam’s 12,000 villages and filed the three million enemy documents its soldiers captured annually on giant reels of bar-coded film. At the same time, the CIA collated and computerized diverse data on the communist civilian infrastructure as part of its infamous Phoenix Program. This, in turn, became the basis for its systematic tortures and 41,000 “extra-judicial executions”(which, based on disinformation from petty local grudges and communist counterintelligence, killed many but failed to capture more than a handfull of top communist cadres).

Most ambitiously, the U.S. Air Force spent $800 million a year to lace southern Laos with a network of 20,000 acoustic, seismic, thermal, and ammonia-sensitive sensors to pinpoint Hanoi’s truck convoys coming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail under a heavy jungle canopy. The information these provided was then gathered on computerized systems for the targeting of incessant bombing runs. After 100,000 North Vietnamese troops passed right through this electronic grid undetected with trucks, tanks, and heavy artillery to launch the Nguyen Hue Offensive in 1972, the U.S. Pacific Air Force pronounced this bold attempt to build an “electronic battlefield” an unqualified failure.

In this pressure cooker of what became history’s largest air war, the Air Force also accelerated the transformation of a new information system that would rise to significance three decades later: the Firebee target drone. By war’s end, it had morphed into an increasingly agile unmanned aircraft that would make 3,500 top-secret surveillance sorties over China, North Vietnam, and Laos. By 1972, the SC/TV drone, with a camera in its nose, was capable of flying 2,400 miles while navigating via a low-resolution television image.

On balance, all this computerized data helped foster the illusion that American “pacification” programs in the countryside were winning over the inhabitants of Vietnam’s villages, and the delusion that the air war was successfully destroying North Vietnam’s supply effort. Despite a dismal succession of short-term failures that helped deliver a soul-searing blow to American power, all this computerized data-gathering proved a seminal experiment, even if its advances would not become evident for another 30 years until the U.S. began creating a third -- robotic -- information regime.

The Global War on Terror

As it found itself at the edge of defeat in the attempted pacification of two complex societies, Afghanistan and Iraq, Washington responded in part by adapting new technologies of electronic surveillance, biometric identification, and drone warfare -- all of which are now melding into what may become an information regime far more powerful and destructive than anything that has come before.

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