'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.
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Henry

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I would like to see one of who preach give peace a chance to go find bin laden and let him know that you don't agree with Bush and that you just want to live in peace. Oh by the way let him know that you also want to continue living your western civilization ways but you just don't want to be at war with him. Let's see how long it takes him to remove your head because if you don't beleive in what he believes in then you are an enemy and must die...
God bless our troops...
The best saying I have heard which I wish more would realize is FREEDOM ISN'T FREE.
Only, god can not bless "our troops", because there is no god and never was! So sorry!
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Jan 3, 2013
 
Cut the national debt:
Military 20%, pensions and social security 23% and healthcare 22%! The interest paid on borrowed money is more 10% or $220 billion. Of course none of our politicians dare to touch these items or even whisper it. Especially the military part of it, as it employs hundreds of thousands of Americans in manufacturing, research and many other related activities that earn people a paycheck. It is famously referred to as the MIC or Military Industrial Complex! And then of course are the insane tax cuts supported by most republicans, seemingly intelligent people acting like friggen troglodytes!
There is no single policy passed by congress that has added more to the debt, or that is projected to add as much to the debt in the future, as the Bush tax cuts, passed in 2001 and 2003 and extended again in 2010. Yet republicans insist, with a straight face, that more tax cuts will end the current recession – what the f***?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
There is a serious underlying problem that is rearing its ugly head year after year and the public is slowly catching on to it. When 0.1% percent of the population owns 99% of what can be owned (aka assets) in this great land of ours, there is something seriously wrong with our society and its government or its governing. And the whole picture looks even darker when it comes to income distribution which is lopsided in the extreme!
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/we...
Henry

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Jan 3, 2013
 
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Than why did it fail in the USSR and why is it failing in China? Thou shalt not steal, kill or fornicate in public...
It did not fail either in the USSR nor in China! It takes time nothing else. It takes time to change a society. For instance the change of feudalism to capitalism is still not finished yet.
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Exposed by itself looks like you may be on to something.....UNTIL you realize that the most common type of injury accident involving children are those that also involve motor vehicle collisions. According to the National Center for Statistics and Analysis (NCSA), nearly 250,000 children are injured every year in car accidents....and how many children are killed or injured by drugs each year? Gun injuries and deaths pale in comparison so why are you as dilligent in new laws and bans on drugs and cars??? Because like gun laws and bans, they ONLY work if people abide by them...
Yes of course, you are now reverting to the standard gun-nut-rhetoric, following your logic you might as well cite Life itself as the big killer - it kills 300,000 people every day.
Your half baked excuse is rather like desperately grabbing for straws.
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Jan 3, 2013
 
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Good luck this weekend, hope to see you guys in the finals...please break brady's thong...
ravens at full strength. New England and Denver don't want to see them in the next round. Super Bowl!
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Yes of course, you are now reverting to the standard gun-nut-rhetoric, following your logic you might as well cite Life itself as the big killer - it kills 300,000 people every day.
Your half baked excuse is rather like desperately grabbing for straws.
Just for you...when you OUTLAW guns only OUTLAWS will have guns...enjoy...
A man armed with an old military rifle and a handgun shot and killed three women and wounded two men last night in a southern Swiss village, police said. Police shot and wounded the suspect after he threatened to also shoot officers who arrived at the scene in the village of Daillon, said a police chief. The gunman was then arrested. The chief said the suspect was using a military rifle that was once standard issue in the Swiss army during the first half of the 20th century.

A police rep said the shooter lived in Daillon, and the motive for the shooting was not clear. A prosecutor said the shooter—who was not identified—knew several of the victims, but "he was not known for making threats." He was unemployed and had been receiving psychiatric care since at least 2005, when he was first admitted to a psychiatric hospital, and was under the care of an agency that provides services and counseling to the disabled, she said. It wasn't immediately clear how the shooter obtained his weapons...

However I am sure it is clear to frankie, this nutcase did not murder these people, the guns he procured illegally did...
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Jan 3, 2013
 
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<quoted text>ravens at full strength. New England and Denver don't want to see them in the next round. Super Bowl!
Perfect timing for the Ray Lewis retirement announcement. I hope that is what they needed to shake them out of the recent funk...Lewis epitomizes CLASS, I wish him well
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So tell me when did you see a gigantic mountain rise out of the sea?
Hawaii...still rising to this day...which suits the name...the BIG island...

For you...What is a tectonic plate?
A tectonic plate (also called lithospheric plate) is a massive, irregularly shaped slab of solid rock, generally composed of both continental and oceanic lithosphere. Plate size can vary greatly, from a few hundred to thousands of kilometers across; the Pacific and Antarctic Plates are among the largest. Plate thickness also varies greatly, ranging from less than 15 km for young oceanic lithosphere to about 200 km or more for ancient continental lithosphere (for example, the interior parts of North and South America).

How do these massive slabs of solid rock float despite their tremendous weight? The answer lies in the composition of the rocks. Continental crust is composed of granitic rocks which are made up of relatively lightweight minerals such as quartz and feldspar. By contrast, oceanic crust is composed of basaltic rocks, which are much denser and heavier. The variations in plate thickness are nature's way of partly compensating for the imbalance in the weight and density of the two types of crust. Because continental rocks are much lighter, the crust under the continents is much thicker (as much as 100 km) whereas the crust under the oceans is generally only about 5 km thick. Like icebergs, only the tips of which are visible above water, continents have deep "roots" to support their elevations.

Most of the boundaries between individual plates cannot be seen, because they are hidden beneath the oceans. Yet oceanic plate boundaries can be mapped accurately from outer space by measurements from GEOSAT satellites. Earthquake and volcanic activity is concentrated near these boundaries. Tectonic plates probably developed very early in the Earth's 4.6-billion-year history, and they have been drifting about on the surface ever since-like slow-moving bumper cars repeatedly clustering together and then separating.

Like many features on the Earth's surface, plates change over time. Those composed partly or entirely of oceanic lithosphere can sink under another plate, usually a lighter, mostly continental plate, and eventually disappear completely. This process is happening now off the coast of Oregon and Washington. The small Juan de Fuca Plate, a remnant of the formerly much larger oceanic Farallon Plate, will someday be entirely consumed as it continues to sink beneath the North American Plate.
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Jan 3, 2013
 
I yearn for the day when Bush left office with the price of gasoline being $1.84 per gallon. And so do poor people. Obama people.I yearn for the day when Bush left office with the price of gasoline being $1.84 per gallon. And so do poor people. Obama people.
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Jan 3, 2013
 
There must be a God. Nancy Pelosi said " may God Bless The United States of America." Nancy Pelosi is never wrong.
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And then "after your death" you will 'Wish" that you would have been a believer!!
That shall happen to every Atheist, to the best of my knowledge and info!!
The most "unimaginative people on this planet"!!
Just curious MUQ, will christians and muslims share the same heavenly afterlife? What are you going to do when you find out that jews are allowed in the kingdom of heaven as well?
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Only, god can not bless "our troops", because there is no god and never was! So sorry!
So hank, what do you think about the old adage that There are NO athiests in Foxholes?

A feel good story for you and francis...
Senator Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), who will return to Congress on Thursday one year after suffering a major stroke, said that he saw angels while recovering in the hospital last year.

In an interview with the Daily Herald published Wednesday, Kirk said that before he woke up from a medically induced coma, three angels appeared at the foot of his bed and asked if he wanted to come with them.

"No," Kirk said. "I'll hold off."

Kirk told the paper that he wasn't sure if the vision had been a dream or a near-death experience, but acknowledged that his stroke and subsequent recovery had impacted his faith.

"I would say that I definitely became much more religious," Kirk said. "They say there are no atheists in foxholes, and this stroke put me into a very deep foxhole. Yet, that feeling of faith sustained me, so I have no feelings of anger or regret."

The Republican senator is scheduled to arrive at the Capitol Thursday morning, in time for the opening of the 113th Congress. He will be greeted by Vice President Joe Biden, along with Sens. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other Senate colleagues. Kirk intends to walk up the steps of the Capitol without assistance.

In the Daily Herald interview, the 53-year-old Kirk said that he visualized the walk up the Capitol steps to help motivate him during physical therapy.

"I kept imagining going back to work and the irreducible physical amount of effort I had to put in," he said.

Awwwww, the life of an elitist congress person...back to work with ZERO medical bills and no obamacare paperwork to fill out...try going back to your job of tarring a roof after a massive stroke...
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

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So then you agree, USA should not get involved in the 60k dead and growing list in Syria and just sit back and let the international bodies continue their most excellent work of resolving the genocide going on, yes?
Syria have raw resource that US our want that is bloody oil, why Arab Spring - people of Mid east want our US out and for very good reason, and don't want a US puppet govt to be at helm.
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UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Syria have raw resource that US our want that is bloody oil, why Arab Spring - people of Mid east want our US out and for very good reason, and don't want a US puppet govt to be at helm.
So then are you good with the way things are currently playing out in Syria?
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Even worse than the Jews?
You are treading on "very thin Ice".... You could be reported for making an "Anti Semitic" comment (or whatever that means)!!
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ABs wrote:
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Hawaii...still rising to this day...which suits the name...the BIG island...
For you...What is a tectonic plate?
A tectonic plate (also called lithospheric plate) is a massive, irregularly shaped slab of solid rock, generally composed of both continental and oceanic lithosphere. Plate size can vary greatly, from a few hundred to thousands of kilometers across; the Pacific and Antarctic Plates are among the largest. Plate thickness also varies greatly, ranging from less than 15 km for young oceanic lithosphere to about 200 km or more for ancient continental lithosphere (for example, the interior parts of North and South America).
How do these massive slabs of solid rock float despite their tremendous weight? The answer lies in the composition of the rocks. Continental crust is composed of granitic rocks which are made up of relatively lightweight minerals such as quartz and feldspar. By contrast, oceanic crust is composed of basaltic rocks, which are much denser and heavier. The variations in plate thickness are nature's way of partly compensating for the imbalance in the weight and density of the two types of crust. Because continental rocks are much lighter, the crust under the continents is much thicker (as much as 100 km) whereas the crust under the oceans is generally only about 5 km thick. Like icebergs, only the tips of which are visible above water, continents have deep "roots" to support their elevations.
Most of the boundaries between individual plates cannot be seen, because they are hidden beneath the oceans. Yet oceanic plate boundaries can be mapped accurately from outer space by measurements from GEOSAT satellites. Earthquake and volcanic activity is concentrated near these boundaries. Tectonic plates probably developed very early in the Earth's 4.6-billion-year history, and they have been drifting about on the surface ever since-like slow-moving bumper cars repeatedly clustering together and then separating.
Like many features on the Earth's surface, plates change over time. Those composed partly or entirely of oceanic lithosphere can sink under another plate, usually a lighter, mostly continental plate, and eventually disappear completely. This process is happening now off the coast of Oregon and Washington. The small Juan de Fuca Plate, a remnant of the formerly much larger oceanic Farallon Plate, will someday be entirely consumed as it continues to sink beneath the North American Plate.
Thanks for the Science lesson.

The correlations between fish fossils fond on the highest mountains and your article still does not compute too me.

Science changes and Gods word does not.

The earth was thought to be flat and now oval.

God makes more sense.

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Earth Oceans Were Homegrown
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/11...

How did the Oceans form?
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/oce...
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I liked the old paths, when Moms were at home.
Dads were at work. Brothers went into the army.
And sisters got married to actual men BEFORE having children!
Crime did not pay; Hard work did;
And people knew the difference.
Moms could cook; Dads would work;
Children would behave.
Husbands were loving; Wives were supportive;
And children were polite.
Women wore the jewelry; and Men wore the pants.
Women looked like ladies; men looked like gentlemen; and children looked decent.
People loved the truth, and hated a lie.
Cursing was wicked; drugs were for illness.
The flag was honored; America was beautiful; and God was welcome!
To be called an American was worth dying for;
To be called an American was worth living for;
To be called a traitor was a shame!
I Miss the Old Days...
You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.

Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.

Most Republicans are conservative in name only.

Most Democrats are liberal in name only.

Obamacare is not a liberal health plan which would have provided Single Payer, Medicare For All.

Obamacare is more accurately Romneycare which was endorsed by Bob Dole and the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.

Obama/Clinton, Bush/Cheney John Kerry, John McCain, et cetera are all corporate hacks loyal to Wall Street.

They have to divide and conquer our ignorant masses.

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The Truth Behind the Fiscal Cliff’s Reality TV Show
January 4, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/b7klghn
To appreciate how the kabuki theater works, consider three big outcomes of the fiscal cliff legislation that the attendant reality TV show never highlighted:
1. Bush defeats Clinton: President Clinton’s tax rates delivered big budget surpluses and one of history’s strongest rates of economic growth. By contrast, President Bush’s cuts to those tax rates birthed massive deficits and the slowest rate of economic growth in modern history. Yet, faced with the fiscal cliff’s choice between Clinton and Bush tax rates, both parties agreed to ratify almost all of the latter.
For Republicans, this victory was summed up by Bush’s former spokesman, Ari Fleischer, who said simply,“it’s fantastic.” For Democrats, their triumphant rhetoric about their one small win - restoring Clinton rates on income above $400,000 - obscures a humiliating truth. Essentially, the party that spent so much political capital to modestly raise taxes and restore fiscal sanity after the Reagan binge was bullied into undoing much of its own fiscal legacy.
2. Nobody in Washington cares about deficits: During December’s “fiscal cliff” TV show, D.C.‘s reality stars told us that they were focused on reducing the budget deficit. But, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the final bill will increase the budget deficit by $4 trillion.
3. Corporate welfare is sacrosanct: For all the effort to make wasteful spending the villain in the “fiscal cliff” TV show, Congress ultimately refused to touch that spending. Somehow, defense contractor largesse in the bloated Pentagon budget was off the table. Somehow, subsidies to corporate agribusiness were separated from the negotiations and then extended. Meanwhile, as the Roosevelt Institution’s Matt Stoller documented, the final “fiscal cliff” bill included taxpayer handouts for everything from NASCAR racetracks, to Hollywood studios, to a new Goldman Sachs headquarters.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/01/04

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Therealnews com wrote:
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You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.
Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.
Most Republicans are conservative in name only.
Most Democrats are liberal in name only.
Obamacare is not a liberal health plan which would have provided Single Payer, Medicare For All.
Obamacare is more accurately Romneycare which was endorsed by Bob Dole and the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.
Obama/Clinton, Bush/Cheney John Kerry, John McCain, et cetera are all corporate hacks loyal to Wall Street.
They have to divide and conquer our ignorant masses.
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The Truth Behind the Fiscal Cliff’s Reality TV Show
January 4, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/b7klghn
To appreciate how the kabuki theater works, consider three big outcomes of the fiscal cliff legislation that the attendant reality TV show never highlighted:
1. Bush defeats Clinton: President Clinton’s tax rates delivered big budget surpluses and one of history’s strongest rates of economic growth. By contrast, President Bush’s cuts to those tax rates birthed massive deficits and the slowest rate of economic growth in modern history. Yet, faced with the fiscal cliff’s choice between Clinton and Bush tax rates, both parties agreed to ratify almost all of the latter.
For Republicans, this victory was summed up by Bush’s former spokesman, Ari Fleischer, who said simply,“it’s fantastic.” For Democrats, their triumphant rhetoric about their one small win - restoring Clinton rates on income above $400,000 - obscures a humiliating truth. Essentially, the party that spent so much political capital to modestly raise taxes and restore fiscal sanity after the Reagan binge was bullied into undoing much of its own fiscal legacy.
2. Nobody in Washington cares about deficits: During December’s “fiscal cliff” TV show, D.C.‘s reality stars told us that they were focused on reducing the budget deficit. But, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the final bill will increase the budget deficit by $4 trillion.
3. Corporate welfare is sacrosanct: For all the effort to make wasteful spending the villain in the “fiscal cliff” TV show, Congress ultimately refused to touch that spending. Somehow, defense contractor largesse in the bloated Pentagon budget was off the table. Somehow, subsidies to corporate agribusiness were separated from the negotiations and then extended. Meanwhile, as the Roosevelt Institution’s Matt Stoller documented, the final “fiscal cliff” bill included taxpayer handouts for everything from NASCAR racetracks, to Hollywood studios, to a new Goldman Sachs headquarters.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/01/04
Switzerland’s oldest private bank, Wegelin & Co., has pleaded guilty to helping wealthy United States taxpayers dodge taxes through offshore accounts. The bank was indicted last February on charges of conspiracy and fraud
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/Wegelin_...
Henry

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My guess is that you were raised with Religion and something distasteful happened and instead of blaming the Devil, you blame God.
Of course I don`t blame the devil and I don`t blame god, since both never existed!
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And then "after your death" you will 'Wish" that you would have been a believer!!
That shall happen to every Atheist, to the best of my knowledge and info!!
The most "unimaginative people on this planet"!!
Of course that is pure nonsense. After death life has passed!

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