'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276670 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286223 Jan 14, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy

November 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - It’s 2025 and an American “triple canopy” of advanced surveillance and armed drones fills the heavens from the lower- to the exo-atmosphere. A wonder of the modern age, it can deliver its weaponry anywhere on the planet with staggering speed, knock out an enemy’s satellite communications system, or follow individuals biometrically for great distances. Along with the country’s advanced cyberwar capacity, it’s also the most sophisticated militarized information system ever created and an insurance policy for U.S. global dominion deep into the twenty-first century. It’s the future as the Pentagon imagines it; it’s under development; and Americans know nothing about it.

They are still operating in another age.“Our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917,” complained Republican candidate Mitt Romney during the last presidential debate.
With words of withering mockery, President Obama shot back:“Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed... the question is not a game of Battleship, where we're counting ships. It's what are our capabilities.”
Obama later offered just a hint of what those capabilities might be:“What I did was work with
our joint chiefs of staff to think about, what are we going to need in the future to make sure that we are safe?... We need to be thinking about cyber security. We need to be talking about space.”

Amid all the post-debate media chatter, however, not a single commentator seemed to have a clue when it came to the profound strategic changes encoded in the president’s sparse words. Yet for the past four years, working in silence and secrecy, the Obama administration has presided over a technological revolution in defense planning, moving the nation far beyond bayonets and battleships to cyberwarfare and the full-scale weaponization of space. In the face of waning economic influence, this bold new breakthrough in what’s called “information warfare” may prove significantly responsible should U.S. global dominion somehow continue far into the twenty-first century.

While the technological changes involved are nothing less than revolutionary, they have deep historical roots in a distinctive style of American global power. It’s been evident from the moment this nation first stepped onto the world stage with its conquest of the Philippines in 1898. Over the span of a century, plunged into three Asian crucibles of counterinsurgency -- in the Philippines, Vietnam, and Afghanistan -- the U.S. military has repeatedly been pushed to the breaking point. It has repeatedly responded by fusing the nation’s most advanced technologies into new information infrastructures of unprecedented power.

That military first created a manual information regime for Philippine pacification, then a computerized apparatus to fight communist guerrillas in Vietnam. Finally, during its decade-plus in Afghanistan (and its years in Iraq), the Pentagon has begun to fuse biometrics, cyberwarfare, and a potential future triple canopy aerospace shield into a robotic information regime that could produce a platform of unprecedented power for the exercise of global dominion -- or for future military disaster.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286225 Jan 14, 2013
Boycott liberal Hollywood
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Frackville, PA

#286226 Jan 14, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
One more win for Ray...way to go Ravens...heading to the dome today to watch my birds finally rise up...hopefully see you and Ray in the finals...
Don't you love how the Falcons were handed the game to them on a Seattle Platter
Classified

UK

#286228 Jan 15, 2013
Muslims will attack at the heart of France.
VoteVets org

Bay Shore, NY

#286229 Jan 15, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Boycott liberal Hollywood
The phony baloney "Fiscal Cliff" increased the deficit 4 Trillion dollars which proves both parties do not represent average Americans.

NASCAR & Hollywood benefited.

Even Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and Dumbya Bush 6 times.

Fiscal Cliff, Debt Ceiling, etc etc. etc. is all smoke and mirrors.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#286230 Jan 15, 2013
John_Pa

New York, NY

#286233 Jan 15, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
The phony baloney "Fiscal Cliff" increased the deficit 4 Trillion dollars which proves both parties do not represent average Americans.
NASCAR & Hollywood benefited.
Even Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times and Dumbya Bush 6 times.
Fiscal Cliff, Debt Ceiling, etc etc. etc. is all smoke and mirrors.
Jeeps to China
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286234 Jan 15, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Beyond Bayonets and Battleships
Space Warfare and the Future of U.S. Global Power

By Alfred W. McCoy
(Contd.)
America’s First Information Revolution

This distinctive U.S. system of imperial information gathering (and the surveillance and war-making practices that go with it) traces its origins to some brilliant American innovations in the management of textual, statistical, and visual data. Their sum was nothing less than a new information infrastructure with an unprecedented capacity for mass surveillance.

During two extraordinary decades, American inventions like Thomas Alva Edison’s quadruplex telegraph (1874), Philo Remington’s commercial typewriter (1874), Melvil Dewey’s library decimal system (1876), and Herman Hollerith’s patented punch card (1889) created synergies that led to the militarized application of America’s first information revolution. To pacify a determined guerrilla resistance that persisted in the Philippines for a decade after 1898, the U.S. colonial regime -- unlike European empires with their cultural studies of “Oriental civilizations”-- used these advanced information technologies to amass detailed empirical data on Philippine society. In this way, they forged an Argus-eyed security apparatus that played a major role in crushing the Filipino nationalist movement. The resulting colonial policing and surveillance system would also leave a lasting institutional imprint on the emerging American state.

When the U.S. entered World War I in 1917, the “father of U.S. military intelligence” Colonel Ralph Van Deman drew upon security methods he had developed years before in the Philippines to found the Army’s Military Intelligence Division. He recruited a staff that quickly grew from one (himself) to 1,700, deployed some 300,000 citizen-operatives to compile more than a million pages of surveillance reports on American citizens, and laid the foundations for a permanent domestic surveillance apparatus.

A version of this system rose to unparalleled success during World War II when Washington established the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) as the nation’s first worldwide espionage agency. Among its nine branches, Research & Analysis recruited a staff of nearly 2,000 academics who amassed 300,000 photographs, a million maps, and three million file cards, which they deployed in an information system via “indexing, cross-indexing, and counter-indexing” to answer countless tactical questions.

Yet by early 1944, the OSS found itself, in the words of historian Robin Winks,“drowning under the flow of information.” Many of the materials it had so carefully collected were left to molder in storage, unread and unprocessed. Despite its ambitious global reach, this first U.S. information regime, absent technological change, might well have collapsed under its own weight, slowing the flow of foreign intelligence that would prove so crucial for America’s exercise of global dominion after World War II.

ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286235 Jan 15, 2013
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you love how the Falcons were handed the game to them on a Seattle Platter

And guess who left the dome after Seattle scored and took the lead? Another in a long line of great moves by the AB'ster...could not stand to watch Matty Ice fail again...sure missed a hell of a finish...
iava org

Bay Shore, NY

#286237 Jan 16, 2013
John_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>Jeeps to China
Quite Right!
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286238 Jan 16, 2013
Classified wrote:
Muslims will attack at the heart of France.
But how can that be? They are the religion of peace aren't they?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286239 Jan 16, 2013
Spocko wrote:
The human species, led by white Europeans and Euro-Americans, has been on a 500-year-long planet-wide rampage of conquering, plundering, looting, exploiting and polluting the Earth—as well as killing the indigenous communities that stood in the way. The problem is made much worse by the widening gap between rich and poor, the upward concentration of wealth, which ensures there can never be enough to go around. The number of people in dire poverty today—about 2 billion—is greater than the world’s entire population in the early 1900s. Is that progress?
So what you are trying to say is that today there are 7 billion people or over 3 times the population of the world in the early 1900s that are NOT living in poverty, eh? Wow, now that IS grrrreat news, thanks for sharing.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286240 Jan 16, 2013
Lane Bryant, a manager in a scooter store scooter part time at Wal-Mart had the task of hiring someone to fill a job opening. After sorting through a stack of 20 resumes she found four people who were equally qualified. Jennifer decided to call the four in and ask them only one question. Their answer would determine which of them would get the job.

The day came and as the four sat around the conference room table, Jennifer asked,'What is the fastest thing you know of?'

The first man replied,'A THOUGHT.' It just pops into your head. There's no warning.

'That's very good!' replied Jennifer.
'And, now you sir?', she asked the second man.

'Hmmm..let me see 'A blink! It comes and goes and you don't know that it ever happened... A BLINK is the fastest thing I know of.'

'Excellent!' said Jennifer.'The blink of an eye, that's a very popular cliche for speed.' She then turned to the third man, who was contemplating his reply.

'Well, out at my dad's ranch, you step out of the house and on the wall there's a light switch. When you flip that switch, way out across the pasture the light on the barn comes on in less than an instant.'Yip, TURNING ON A LIGHT is the fastest thing I can think of.'

Jennifer was very impressed with the third answer and thought she had found her man
'It's hard to beat the speed of light,' she said.

Turning to Frankie, the fourth and final man, Jennifer posed the same question.

Old francis replied,'After hearing the previous three answers, it's obvious to me that the fastest thing known is DIARRHEA.'

'WHAT!?' said Jennifer, stunned by the response...

'Oh sure', said spocko frankly.'You see, the other day I wasn't feeling so good, and I ran for the bathroom, but before I could THINK, BLINK, or TURN ON THE LIGHT, I had already shit my pants.'

Frankie is now the new greeter at a Wal-Mart near you!

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#286241 Jan 16, 2013
Spocko wrote:
The human species, led by white Europeans and Euro-Americans, has been on a 500-year-long planet-wide rampage of conquering, plundering, looting, exploiting and polluting the Earth—as well as killing the indigenous communities that stood in the way. The problem is made much worse by the widening gap between rich and poor, the upward concentration of wealth, which ensures there can never be enough to go around. The number of people in dire poverty today—about 2 billion—is greater than the world’s entire population in the early 1900s. Is that progress?
We have set in motion an enormous industrial machine of such complexity and such dependence on expansion that we do not know how to make do with less or move to a steady state in terms of our demands for wealth and power! There is a pattern in the past of civilization after civilization wearing out its welcome from nature, overexploiting its environment, overexpanding and overpopulating. They all have collapsed soon after they reached their period of greatest magnificence and prosperity.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_myth_...
Is there only a finite amount of wealth in the world? Prehistoric man must have been filthy rich and living in a paradise. Far better than we have it today-huh?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286242 Jan 16, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there only a finite amount of wealth in the world? Prehistoric man must have been filthy rich and living in a paradise. Far better than we have it today-huh?
A rather self-serving comment don't you think ...:-)
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286244 Jan 16, 2013
Americans were among the foreigners taken hostage today in an attack on a BP natural gas field in Algeria, US officials have confirmed. An al-Qaeda-affiliated Islamist group has claimed responsibility for the attack, calling it retaliation for France's incursion into Mali, Reuters reports. The militants are still occupying the gas field, according to BP, and they say they have up to 41 hostages, including seven Americans. Two foreigners were also killed in the attack.

Hillary Clinton has called Algeria's prime minister to discuss the attack, and Leon Panetta publicly said that the US "will take all necessary and proper steps" to deal with the "terrorist attack," the AP reports. Algeria's interior minister today insisted that his government "will not respond to terrorist demands, and rejects all negotiations," according to CBS.

Now gee, who would have seen that coming in one of the many peaceful loving muslim countries making the world a better place today?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286245 Jan 16, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
A rather self-serving comment don't you think ...:-)
What??? I'm with Dave, don't you find it fascinating that over 9 billion people live in less poverty than first man of the caves?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286246 Jan 16, 2013
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
What??? I'm with Dave, don't you find it fascinating that over 9 billion people live in less poverty than first man of the caves?
Of course you are ... so cavemen lived in poverty eh? I could swear is saw an article the other day that an archeologist unearthed a Porsche in one of the cave dwellings :-)
ABs

Snellville, GA

#286247 Jan 16, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you are ... so cavemen lived in poverty eh? I could swear is saw an article the other day that an archeologist unearthed a Porsche in one of the cave dwellings :-)
Based on today's definition of poverty....yes they did. THat is why I don't put a lot of stock in stats and polls...

But I am willing to bet if you had asked Fred Flintstone, he was living the dream until a guvmint official came by and told him he was living in poverty...
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#286249 Jan 16, 2013
After six years of a failing counterinsurgency effort in Iraq, the Pentagon discovered the power of biometric identification and electronic surveillance to pacify the country’s sprawling cities. It then built a biometric database with more than a million Iraqi fingerprints and iris scans that U.S. patrols on the streets of Baghdad could access instantaneously by satellite link to a computer center in West Virginia.

When President Obama took office and launched his “surge,” escalating the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan, that country became a new frontier for testing and perfecting such biometric databases, as well as for full-scale drone war in both that country and the Pakistani tribal borderlands, the latest wrinkle in a technowar already loosed by the Bush administration. This meant accelerating technological developments in drone warfare that had largely been suspended for two decades after the Vietnam War.

Launched as an experimental, unarmed surveillance aircraft in 1994, the Predator drone was first deployed in 2000 for combat surveillance under the CIA’s “Operation Afghan Eyes.” By 2011, the advanced MQ-9 Reaper drone, with “persistent hunter killer” capabilities, was heavily armed with missiles and bombs as well as sensors that could read disturbed dirt at 5,000 feet and track footprints back to enemy installations. Indicating the torrid pace of drone development, between 2004 and 2010 total flying time for all unmanned vehicles rose from just 71 hours to 250,000 hours.

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