'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276633 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286007 Dec 30, 2012
ABs wrote:
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I see you compare a country the size of New York with the entire USA...lets go apples with apples...New York has 10000 percent more guns in the hands of civilians than does Great Britian yet the nurder rate is lower...how do you rationalize that, francis? Or do you just continue to marginalize it to suit you?
550 murders in a country with 4 guns per 100, that seems quite high doesn't it? I mean in light of guns killing people and not people killing people...how is this possible?
Pay attention Mr. Brainfart, the number of guns is referenced to units of 100 people which makes the total size of a given country irrelevant
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286008 Dec 30, 2012
To only find comfort, and safety, in arms is very, very sad indeed. Ronald Reagan was pro-gun control because he feared the Black Panthers. The Ku Klux Klan was founded in order to seize guns from free blacks. I don't buy the notion of Second Amendment absolutists that individually-owned guns are the best defense against the imposition of tyrannical rule in America, if anything it’s comical, I think we're pretty safe from tyrannical rule. But if you were an African-American in 1870s or 1950s, you might have felt a lot safer with a gun. It is my belief that ‘qualified people’ have the right to bear arms, and that the government has the right and responsibility to regulate the sale and ‘the carry’ of guns. There seems to be no sense with the gun-crowed that the very presence of a gun – like all forms of power – alters its bearer’s state of mind, that the possession of a tool of lethal violence will invariably change how one interacts with the world. George Zimmerman, by his own telling, had he been unarmed he would have never stepped out his car.
Democracynow org

Garden City, NY

#286009 Dec 30, 2012
ABs wrote:
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So with all we know as scientific fact today...exactly HOW does our sun stop? Stopping sun's and splitting moon's...all stories brought to you by muddle eastern religious zealots...starting to see the trend yet?
2 Corinthians 5:7

We live by faith, not by sight.

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It is a fact that fish fossils were found on the highest mountain peaks. Remember the FLOOD in the Torah & Quran?

Some Scientist even think it was possible to part the Red Sea.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story...
Democracynow org

Garden City, NY

#286010 Dec 30, 2012
Henry wrote:
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Capitalism always gets war.
Yes and No.

Capitalism is noble as long as it is honorable and fair.

Bill Clinton and the Republicans terminated Glass/Steagall which gave Wall Street a license to steal.

Crony Capitalism is the problem along with no fair/free markets, corporate welfare, tax loopholes that benefit the wealthy, government subsidies, extremely bloated waste and fraud at the Pentagon, tax havens, outsourcing, etc. et cetera.

Some of our worst presidents were Nixon to Obama and all in between.

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There Is No Santa Claus and Bill Clinton Was Not an Economic Savior
December 26, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/cgvjsg9
The truth is often painful but nonetheless it is important that we live in the real world. Just as little kids have to come to grips with the fact that there is no Santa Claus, it is necessary for millions of liberals, including many who think of themselves as highly knowledgeable about economic matters, to realize that President Clinton's policies sent the economy seriously off course. In Washington it is common to tout the budget surpluses of the Clinton years as some momentous achievement, as though the point of economic policy is to run budget surpluses. Of course the point of economic policy is to produce an economy that improves the lives of the people in a sustainable way. Clinton badly flunked this test.
The Clinton economy was driven by a stock bubble. This is not a debatable point. The ratio of market-wide stock prices to corporate earnings was well over 30 to 1 at the peak of the bubble in 2000. This is more than twice the historic average.
This run-up in stock prices drove the economy in two ways. First, since any good huckster could make millions selling shares in dot.whatever, we had many hucksters starting nutball businesses that never had a prayer of making a profit. This is not much of a long-run economic strategy, but in the short-term it led to an increase in investment.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/26-0...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286011 Dec 30, 2012
Democracynow org wrote:
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2 Corinthians 5:7
We live by faith, not by sight.
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It is a fact that fish fossils were found on the highest mountain peaks. Remember the FLOOD in the Torah & Quran?
Some Scientist even think it was possible to part the Red Sea.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story...
Huh? Ever heard of plate tectonics, bonehead? The Matterhorn of Switzerland is largely made up of rocks of African origin.
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286012 Dec 30, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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Pay attention Mr. Brainfart, the number of guns is referenced to units of 100 people which makes the total size of a given country irrelevant
You skew the data any way you want, ol boy. I'll take out of it what ever logic I can...
If it is guns that kill people according to you...why are there over 500 murders in Britian and more there than the entire state of New York?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286013 Dec 30, 2012
Democracynow org wrote:
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2 Corinthians 5:7
We live by faith, not by sight.
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It is a fact that fish fossils were found on the highest mountain peaks. Remember the FLOOD in the Torah & Quran?
Some Scientist even think it was possible to part the Red Sea.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story...
So then...u believe the moon split as well?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286015 Dec 30, 2012
ABs wrote:
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You skew the data any way you want, ol boy. I'll take out of it what ever logic I can...
If it is guns that kill people according to you...why are there over 500 murders in Britian and more there than the entire state of New York?
Simple, the UK includes any kind of aggravated assault in their stats the US shows homicides only! NYC, for instance, has 40% more cops on the street, every day, than London!
Sunlightfoundati on com

Garden City, NY

#286016 Dec 30, 2012
ABs wrote:
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So then...u believe the moon split as well?
No, because I am still ignorant to the beliefs of Islam.

I do know about the veil in the holy of holies inside the Temple was split in half when Jesus died and resurrected.
Sunlightfoundati on com

Garden City, NY

#286017 Dec 30, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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Huh? Ever heard of plate tectonics, bonehead? The Matterhorn of Switzerland is largely made up of rocks of African origin.
Mr. Spock, what does movement from continents have to do with fish fossils found on the highest mountain tops.

They had to be under water at some point in history.

Are you suggesting that the mountains went up thousands of feet in the air against gravity?

With All Due Respect,
Captain Kirk

lol
Sunlightfoundati on com

Garden City, NY

#286018 Dec 30, 2012
ABs wrote:
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You skew the data any way you want, ol boy. I'll take out of it what ever logic I can...
If it is guns that kill people according to you...why are there over 500 murders in Britian and more there than the entire state of New York?
The USA has the most guns of any nation worldwide, so if guns keep you safe, how come the USA ranks #1 in killings with guns?

I am pro gun BTW.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#286019 Dec 30, 2012
Sunlightfoundation com wrote:
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Mr. Spock, what does movement from continents have to do with fish fossils found on the highest mountain tops.
They had to be under water at some point in history.
Are you suggesting that the mountains went up thousands of feet in the air against gravity?
With All Due Respect,
Captain Kirk
lol
Gee Forrest I dunno :-/
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#286021 Dec 30, 2012
Happy New Year! Keep your eyes on Fox News Channel.
Sunlightfoundati on com

Garden City, NY

#286025 Dec 31, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
Happy New Year! Keep your eyes on Fox News Channel.
Happy New Year John and All!

You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.

Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.

Most Republicans are conservative in name only.

Most Democrats are liberal in name only.

Obamacare is not a liberal health plan which would have provided Single Payer, Medicare For All.

Obamacare is more accurately Romneycare which was endorsed by Bob Dole and the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.

Obama/Clinton, Bush/Cheney John Kerry, John McCain, et cetera are all corporate hacks loyal to Wall Street.

They have to divide and conquer our ignorant masses.

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Revolving door for health care aides / 9/15/09 / http://tinyurl.com/q243zq
Some of the most influential aides in the closed-door Senate Finance Committee negotiations over health care reform have ties to interests that would be directly affected by the legislation.
Before she was hired last year as senior counsel to Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Liz Fowler worked as a highly paid public policy adviser for WellPoint Inc., the nation’s largest publicly traded health benefits company.
Mark Hayes, health policy director and chief health counsel for Finance Committee ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), is married to a registered lobbyist for a firm that represents drug companies and hospital groups, although the couple says she doesn’t lobby Grassley’s office.
Frederick Isasi, a health policy adviser to Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), was a registered lobbyist at Powell Goldstein, where his clients included public hospitals and the American Stroke Association.
Kate Spaziani, senior health policy aide to Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), was also a registered lobbyist at Powell Goldstein, although Conrad’s office says she worked as a lawyer — not as a lobbyist — for public hospitals on Medicare issues.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/271...

Uncle Bucky William H.T. Bush sits on the board of Health Care with Susan Bayh the Democratic Senators wife.
http://tinyurl.com/yjxnggq
http://ir.wellpoint.com/phoenix.zhtml...
Sunlightfoundati on com

Garden City, NY

#286026 Dec 31, 2012
The Constitution 101:

In the Federalist Papers it said: We were not going to have a monarchy, and we were not going to have a democracy.$$$$$$$

And to this day we have neither. For two hundred years we have had an oligarchical system in which men of property can do well (Dumbya Bush), and others are on their own.$$$$$$$

American politics is essentially a family affair, as are most oligarchies. When the father of the Constitution, James Madison, was asked how on earth any business could get done in Congress when the country contained 100 million people whose representatives would number half a thousand, Madison took the line that oligarchy's iron law always obtains: A few people invariably run the show; and keep it, if they can, in the family.$$$$$$$

Our founding fathers had such a fear and loathing of democracy that they invented the Electoral College so that the popular voice of the people could be throttled, much as the Supreme Court throttled the Floridians on December 12, 2000.$$$$$$$

We were to be neither a democracy, subject to majoritarian tyranny, nor a dictatorship, subject to Caesarean folly.$$$$$$$

As American media is controlled by that corporate America which provides us with political candidates a well-informed electorate is not possible.$$$$$$$
ABs

Aiken, SC

#286027 Dec 31, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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Simple, the UK includes any kind of aggravated assault in their stats the US shows homicides only! NYC, for instance, has 40% more cops on the street, every day, than London!
Lost me with that skew job ol boy...
The murder figures are astounding; the Brits show around 550 murders per year...what has that to do with aggravated assault in their stats you provided? Don't know about you, but to me a country the size of New York with 550 murders a year and no right for citizens to own guns is nothing short of astonishing, especially in light of the opinion = fact that people don't kill people, guns do...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#286028 Dec 31, 2012
Democracynow org wrote:
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2 Corinthians 5:7
We live by faith, not by sight.
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It is a fact that fish fossils were found on the highest mountain peaks. Remember the FLOOD in the Torah & Quran?
Some Scientist even think it was possible to part the Red Sea.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story...
Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear...
1 EdgarAPoe 1:1

Mountains were below the sea at one time or another in the history of the earth...future continents are being created on the sea floor as we speak...tetonic plate shifts will see to that...
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#286029 Dec 31, 2012
Sunlightfoundation com wrote:
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No, because I am still ignorant to the beliefs of Islam.
I do know about the veil in the holy of holies inside the Temple was split in half when Jesus died and resurrected.
Fairy tales are quite a lot! Who knows!
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#286030 Dec 31, 2012
ABs wrote:
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So in your opinion there was no evil in the world before the advent of capitalism?
Nazi germany...capitalistic system? The iron curtain? Muslim hoardes?
Class fights were already since classes exist. Only socialism could stop class fights. Communism would finally stop classes!
Henry

Zwickau, Germany

#286031 Dec 31, 2012
Angels Flight wrote:
Peace be with you.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/300962/pe...
People pray for world peace across churches in Valley
We prayed for world peace and especially for the peace in Kashmir. We wish peace to every brother and sister. God loves everyone and that love is shown by humans too by celebrating together, greeting each other and giving gifts. We should learn to forgive people,”
As long as there is capitalism in the world we don`t have to pray for peace, we will always have wars!

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