'The War Is Not Over'

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So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
I do not know why GOD chose the Hebrews as His chosen people.

What I do know is THREE largest religions came from it.

Judaism, Christianity, Islam.

GOD hates the sin but loves the sinner that is why HE sent His SON.

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As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
You taking the text out of context.

GOD said offer them Peace first.

GOD never approves rape.

Slavery as in a fair wage, fair shelter, as in treat someone as you would want to be treated.

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20 “When you go out to fight your enemies and you face horses and chariots and an army greater than your own, do not be afraid. The Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, is with you! 2 When you prepare for battle, the priest must come forward to speak to the troops. 3 He will say to them,‘Listen to me, all you men of Israel! Do not be afraid as you go out to fight your enemies today! Do not lose heart or panic or tremble before them. 4 For the Lord your God is going with you! He will fight for you against your enemies, and he will give you victory!’

5 “Then the officers of the army must address the troops and say,‘Has anyone here just built a new house but not yet dedicated it? If so, you may go home! You might be killed in the battle, and someone else would dedicate your house. 6 Has anyone here just planted a vineyard but not yet eaten any of its fruit? If so, you may go home! You might die in battle, and someone else would eat the first fruit. 7 Has anyone here just become engaged to a woman but not yet married her? Well, you may go home and get married! You might die in the battle, and someone else would marry her.’

8 “Then the officers will also say,‘Is anyone here afraid or worried? If you are, you may go home before you frighten anyone else.’ 9 When the officers have finished speaking to their troops, they will appoint the unit commanders.

10 “As you approach a town to attack it, you must first offer its people terms for peace. 11 If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. 12 But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. 13 When the Lord your God hands the town over to you, use your swords to kill every man in the town. 14 But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the plunder from your enemies that the Lord your God has given you.

15 “But these instructions apply only to distant towns, not to the towns of the nations in the land you will enter. 16 In those towns that the Lord your God is giving you as a special possession, destroy every living thing. 17 You must completely destroy[a] the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 This will prevent the people of the land from teaching you to imitate their detestable customs in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply against the Lord your God.

19 “When you are attacking a town and the war drags on, you must not cut down the trees with your axes. You may eat the fruit, but do not cut down the trees. Are the trees your enemies, that you should attack them? 20 You may only cut down trees that you know are not valuable for food. Use them to make the equipment you need to attack the enemy town until it falls.
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On 11th December, 1959, Colonel J. C. King, chief of CIA's Western Hemisphere Division, sent a confidential memorandum to Allen W. Dulles, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. King argued that in Cuba there existed a "far-left dictatorship, which if allowed to remain will encourage similar actions against U.S. holdings in other Latin American countries." (1)
As a result of this memorandum Dulles established Operation 40. It obtained this name because originally there were 40 agents involved in the operation. Later this was expanded to 70 agents. The group was presided over by Richard Nixon. Tracy Barnes became operating officer of what was also called the Cuban Task Force. The first meeting chaired by Barnes took place in his office on 18th January, 1960, and was attended by David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, Jack Esterline, and Frank Bender.
According to Fabian Escalante, a senior officer of the Cuban Department of State Security (G-2), in 1960 Richard Nixon recruited an "important group of businessmen headed by George Bush (Snr.) and Jack Crichton, both Texas oilmen, to gather the necessary funds for the operation".(2) This suggests that Operation 40 agents were involved in freelance work.
It is known that at this time that George Bush and Jack Crichton were involved in covert right-wing activities. In 1990 The Common Cause magazine argued that: "The CIA put millionaire and agent George Bush in charge of recruiting exiled Cubans for the CIA’s invading army; Bush was working with another Texan oil magnate, Jack Crichton, who helped him in terms of the invasion." (3) This story was linked to the release of "a memorandum in that context addressed to FBI chief J. Edward Hoover and signed November 1963, which reads: Mr. George Bush of the CIA" (4)
Reinaldo Taladrid and Lazaro Baredo claim that in 1959 George Bush was asked “to cooperate in funding the nascent anti-Castro groups that the CIA decided to create”. The man “assigned to him for his new mission” was Féliz Rodríguez.(5)
Daniel Hopsicker also takes the view that Operation 40 involved private funding. In the book, Barry and the Boys: The CIA, the Mob and America’s Secret History, he claims that Richard Nixon had established Operation 40 as a result of pressure from American corporations which had suffered at the hands of Fidel Castro.(6)
Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin have argued that George Bush was very close to members of Operation 40 in the early 1960s. In September, 1963, Bush launched his Senate campaign. At that time, right-wing Republicans were calling on John F. Kennedy to take a more aggressive approach towards Castro. For example, in one speech Barry Goldwater said:“I advocate the recognition of a Cuban government in exile and would encourage this government every way to reclaim its country. This means financial and military assistance.” Bush took a more extreme position than Goldwater and called for a “new government-in-exile invasion of Cuba”. As Tarpley and Chaitkin point out, beneficiaries of this policy would have been “Theodore Shackley, who was by now the station chief of CIA Miami Station, Felix Rodriguez, Chi Chi Quintero, and the rest of the boys” from Operation 40.(7)
Paul Kangas is another investigator who has claimed that George Bush was involved with members of Operation 40. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKopera...
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Antonio Veciana, Luis Posada, Orlando Bosch, Rafael Quintero, Roland Masferrer, Eladio del Valle, Guillermo Novo, Rafael Villaverde, Virgilio Gonzalez, Carlos Bringuier, Eugenio Martinez, Antonio Cuesta, Hermino Diaz Garcia, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez, Ricardo Morales Navarrete, Juan Manuel Salvat, Isidro Borjas, Virgilio Paz, Jose Dionisio Suarez, Felipe Rivero, Gaspar Jimenez Escobedo, Nazario Sargent, Pedro Luis Diaz Lanz, Jose Basulto, and Paulino Sierra
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Frank Wisner, Philip Graham, David Bruce, Tom Braden, Stewart Alsop and Walt Rostow. George Kennan, Dean Acheson, Richard Bissell, Joseph Alsop, Eugene Rostow, Chip Bohlen, Desmond FitzGerald, Tracy Barnes, Cord Meyer, James Angleton, William Averill Harriman, John McCloy, Felix Frankfurter, John Sherman Cooper, James Reston, Allen W. Dulles and Paul Nitze
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When on the morning of 17 June 1982, the body of Roberto Calvi was found hanging beneath London’s Blackfriars bridge, it was to speed a process that prised open a series of events spanning four decades. The circumstances of Calvi’s death led knowledgeable observers to darkly whisper of a Masonic ritual slaying. With his hands tied behind his back and a brick thrust into his coat pocket, Calvi had been strangled, apparently by the rope that had been noosed around his neck. Moreover, the location itself was believed to be symbolic. Blackfriars bridge sits astride the border that connects the Masonically named “Square Mile” of the City of London to the rest of the Capital city.

The initial inquest into his death returned a verdict of suicide. Appealing against what they believed to be prejudice on the part of the Coroner - and suspicious of the Masonic affiliations of the City police - Calvi’s family called for a second, more thorough inquest, which belatedly returned an open verdict. Meanwhile, Banco Ambrosiano, Calvi’s massive, privately-owned bank, collapsed on the news of his death, revealing a huge “black hole” in the balance sheet amounting to $1.3 billion. A large proportion of the missing money was later located in accounts owned by the Vatican bank. The connections that unfolded in the wake of the Calvi “affair” were to link Masons with Mafiosi, Monks with Murder and Spies with wanted Nazi war criminals.

World War Two had barely ground to a final halt when, in 1947, Allied strategists set about planning for World War Three. Even as British and US intelligence officials scoured Europe seeking to apprehend Nazi’s wanted on war crimes charges, other more secretive US and British intelligence units were actively engaged in helping those same Nazi’s to escape.

The means of escape were the Vatican run “Ratlines.” Operated with the knowledge and blessing of highly placed US and British government officials, the Ratlines guided 30,000 wanted Nazi’s to sanctuary. Safe haven locations included the US, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the favourite bolt hole of them all: South America.

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Meanwhile, only an occasional news report in the U.S. even bothers to acknowledge our role in Chilean affairs. Pinochet took tea with his friend Margaret Thatcher just before he was arrested in Britain, and it's safe to assume that Henry Kissinger will get involved if this thing goes much farther. As Henry's Rolodex spins, so spins our media.

It will be interesting to see how major U.S. players come down on the issue of the globalization of human rights, as personified so dramatically in the current Pinochet affair. But it will be much more instructive if one has a bit more background on the U.S. role in Chile.

Accordingly, I dug out a paper I wrote in 1975,1 and keyed in two sections. The first section is on U.S. economic policy in Chile, and the second is on U.S. covert activities in Chile. They may seem disjointed, having been ripped from the context of the paper, but that context is unimportant today. Moreover, it was contrived primarily to justify the research I wanted to do for these sections.

Note that Michael Townley is mentioned at one point, and this was nearly a year before he became a key participant in the Letelier assassination. Townley's activities were noted in one tiny publication more than two years before the assassination, and in several additional tiny publications one year before. The truth was out there, but you needed a shovel to find it.

What was the major media's response right after the assassination? Predictable. The FBI started searching for a jealous mistress, and Newsweek's Periscope column announced authoritatively that the CIA "has concluded that the Chilean secret police were not involved in the death of Orlando Letelier." The New York Times editorialized that it was an open question whether the assassination had been committed "by the government of Chile or by leftist extremists who will stop at nothing to heap discredit" on the Chilean junta. Business as usual for our major media.

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In late 1998, Part II of the CIA IG's report finally came out, with extensive evidence of knowledge by high-level officials in the CIA and the White House in 1984-86 of the cocaine trafficking allegations. Referring to the new disclosures in the IG report, Waters wrote a letter to Goss demanding, and imploring him to conduct an investigation.

"I believe the dramatic new developments in this ongoing scandal make it imperative that the House Intelligence Committee hold full public hearings to be able to fully and adequately complete its investigation," wrote Waters. "I ask you to set a date for the commencement of these hearings as soon as possible after the start of the 106th Congress."

The IG report was released in the midst of the impeachment against President Bill Clinton, and Representative Waters' letter was completely ignored in that witchhunt atmosphere. Even worse, reported investigative journalist Robert Parry, in Consortium News, when the follow-up Congressional probe that Goss had promised a year earlier was held, in May, 1999 Porter Goss held it was a closed, secret hearings, where Porter Goss did not even allow Waters, one of Congress's most knowledgeable members on the matter, to sit in on the hearings.

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Would to care to "de-code" your cryptic message? It went over my head!!
I didn't mean for my post to be cryptic just let it hover over your head ok?
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The President’s Opening Bid on a Grand Bargain: Aim High
By Robert Reich / November 12, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/aevft55
I hope the President starts negotiations over a “grand bargain” for deficit reduction by aiming high. After all, he won the election. And if the past four years has proven anything it’s that the White House should not begin with a compromise.

Assuming the goal is $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next decade (that’s the consensus of the Simpson-Bowles commission, the Congressional Budget Office, and most independent analysts), here’s what the President should propose:
First, raise taxes on the rich – and by more than the highest marginal rate under Bill Clinton or even a 30 percent (so-called Buffett Rule) minimum rate on millionaires. Remember: America’s top earners are now wealthier than they’ve ever been, and they’re taking home a larger share of total income and wealth than top earners have received in over 80 years.

Why not go back sixty years when Americans earning over $1 million in today’s dollars paid 55.2 percent of it in income taxes, after taking all deductions and credits? If they were taxed at that rate now, they’d pay at least $80 billion more annually — which would reduce the budget deficit by about $1 trillion over the next decade. That’s a quarter of the $4 trillion in deficit reduction right there.

A 2% surtax on the wealth of the richest one-half of 1 percent would bring in another $750 billion over the decade. A one-half of 1 percent tax on financial transactions would bring in an additional $250 billion.

Add this up and we get $2 trillion over ten years — half of the deficit-reduction goal.
Raise the capital gains rate to match the rate on ordinary income and cap the mortgage interest deduction at $12,000 a year, and that’s another $1 trillion over ten years. So now we’re up to $3 trillion in additional revenue.

Eliminate special tax preferences for oil and gas, price supports for big agriculture, tax breaks and research subsidies for Big Pharma, unnecessary weapons systems for military contractors, and indirect subsidies to the biggest banks on Wall Street, and we’re nearly there.

End the Bush tax cuts on incomes between $250,000 and $1 million, and — bingo — we made it:$4 trillion over 10 years.

And we haven’t had to raise taxes on America’s beleaguered middle class, cut Social Security or Medicare and Medicaid, reduce spending on education or infrastructure, or cut programs for the poor.
Mr. President, I’d recommend this as your opening bid. With enough luck and pluck, maybe even your closing bid. And if enough Americans are behind you, it could even be the final deal./ http://robertreich.org/post/35591032374

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<quoted text>Did you ask crusty that question.
Go Ravens. wining without exertion
lol...yes, those blackbirds dominated...squeelers are done without big ben...go dirty birds!
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I cannot find anything the Pope said that was incorrect about wise men from the East.
I think you are confusing the Pope with the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Again I think the Pope and Scripture are correct.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22361...

Yee of little faith, yee cannot find because yee did not search fox news...lol

Here yee go laddie, enjoy...

'Jesus Of Nazareth:" Pope's Final Book On Jesus Claims No Animals In Manger; Virgin Birth Was Historical Truth
In his book, Benedict sidesteps the extrabiblical legends and focuses solely on what's contained in the Gospel accounts of the New Testament.

The three wise men from the Christmas story, Benedict concedes, could be inspired by a theological idea rather than by a historical event.

The star of Bethlehem, he notes, has been convincingly identified with a major planetary conjunction that took place in the years 7-6 B.C.

6 to 7 BC??? So when was a child of a virgin supposedly born again?the pope says the Christian calendar is actually based on a blunder by a sixth century monk, who Benedict says was several years off in his calculation of Jesus' birth date...

Benedict also recalls that, according to the Gospels, there are no animals in the Bethlehem stable to warm the newborn Jesus. But, he adds, no Nativity scene would be complete without them...

He also debunks the claim that angels sang at the birth, a staple theme of Christmas carols...and there is more...

12:47 PM ET
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The Jewish people are not collectively responsible for the death of Jesus, Pope Benedict XVI writes a book to be published next week.

Many Catholics and other Christians blamed Jews for Jesus' death for hundreds of years, but the Catholic Church formally repudiated that assertion in the 1960s.

Benedict underlines the new position in his book "Jesus of Nazareth."

"Who has insisted on the condemnation of Jesus to death?" he asks in the book, referring to scenes in the Gospels where the people of Jerusalem demand that Roman governor Pontius Pilate have Jesus crucified.

The Gospel of John says the people in question were "the Judeans," but the pope says the term "does not refer to - unlike the modern reader may tend to interpret - the people of Israel as such, and it doesn't even have a 'racist' connotation."

Far from meaning all Jewish people, Benedict writes, "the circle of prosecutors pursuing the death of Jesus" is the "aristocracy of the Temple," or the priesthood.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/va...

I know it makes you uncomfortable to think outside your prescribed box of comfort but I ask thee again tinyearl, why is it that the pedestal leader of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? Coincidence perhaps?
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For now that is all conjecture but consider this: Would the mainstream media have covered this lawsuit if the defendant was Bill Clinton? Pehaps Margie Schoedinger was a lunatic. Then again perhaps she wasn't, and that could be precisely why she's dead." (See complete story below.)
http://www.caralive.com/
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More on Woman Who Filed Sex Based Lawsuit Against President George W. Bush Found Dead
by Cherryl Aldave
On December 2nd 2002, Margie D. Schoedinger, a 38-year-old woman from Missouri City, Texas, filed a civil lawsuit against President George W. Bush at the Fort Bend County, Texas, County Clerk's office accusing the President of drugging and raping her. Nine months later on Sept. 22, 2003 she was dead. The medical examiner's office ruled her death a "suicide." Schoedinger, an African-American, was killed by a shot to the head with a Glock handgun.
This story has been covered by several internet media outlets and by a small English newspaper, The New Nation, but not by the national U.S. media. The first person to try to bring this issue to the national forefront was writer Jackson Thoreau, co-author of the e-book "We Will Not Get Over It: Restoring a Legitimate White House".
In an article which first appeared sometime in 2003 on OpEdNews.com , Thoreau claims that he interviewed Schoedinger shortly before her death. Thoreau writes that "she didn't sound 'deranged' to me...
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The more I learn about Pope Benedict, the more I realize that the Church needs a revolutionary period of deep renewal. Amidst the darkness of this damaging scandal, the light of the "Vatican III" Conference had better be around the corner.

I've been reading Betty Clermont's new book, The Neo Catholics a devastating history of the rise of the NeoCon Right. Turns out that rise paralleled that of a swing to the right inside the Vatican, as Reagan built up US-Vatican ties.

From age 14 to 16, Ratzinger was a Nazi in the Hitler Youth. So the Vatican's claim last week that their plight was akin to that of the Jews in the Holocaust was just ... weird. What a tasteless lack of empathy with the Jews. As reported by an Italian newspaper, "certain Catholic circles" in Rome blame the entire outcry on "a New York Jewish lobby" out to get the Pope.

In five short years, Pope Benedict reversed much of the interfaith work of Pope John Paul II. He brought back ornate, gilded ceremonial robes with 20-foot trains and decorated with the coat of arms of the House of Medici -- the wealthy Italian banking family that got four of its own elected pope over the course of four centuries. They presided over the peak in the Church's power, from the Dark Ages to the Counter-Reformation to Church's resistance to the Enlightenment.

I was raised a Catholic and got 12 years of Catholic education. I broke with the Church and was an atheist for the first 10 years of my adulthood. Glad I did it, too; I learned a lot about God that way. I came back into the Church out of a need for truth, for God, and for community. But I am not a slave to those needs, and there are many ways to fulfill them. Something has to change for me to stay in this Catholic Church.

Christianity is supposed to be about empathy with the victims of evil. Instead, we have a parish priest who denounces yoga and Feng Shui.

The thing for Pope Benedict to do now is to redeem his sins. Turn back and fight the evil in our society. And here's a way how: there are underground pedophilia cults operating today in America. Exposing them is an object lesson in American power.

Author Nick Bryant's new book, The Franklin Scandal, sheds light on a specific abusive cult with links to the GOP, the CIA, the Catholic Church, and various DC politicians. The scandal reared its ugly demonic head in 1989, when it was splashed across the pages of the Washington Times. According to the documentary Conspiracy of Silence, the story involved a Nebraska Catholic orphanage called Boys Town, which acted as a source of boys for a pedophile network.
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Lawrence E. King, director of the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union and a rising black star in the GOP, was in business in the late 80s with Craig Spence, the "pimp" of the operation. Spence and his boy-toys took midnight tours of the White House, thanks to military, intelligence, and Bush White House ties. Spence died a mysterious death in a hotel room just 10 weeks after the first story broke in the Washington Times. Conspiracy of Silence was later pulled from the Discovery Channel, and the Washington Post went out of its way to attack the Washington Times for covering the story. Two Grand Jury investigations in Nebraska convicted no perpetrators, and instead indicted two victims for "perjury," one of whom received the exorbitant sentence of 9 to 15 years.

Instead of Catholic services on Good Friday, I spent time with Nick Bryant. Writing The Franklin Scandal, Bryant endured police searches, harassment, a death threat, and a media blackout. But last week, the sunshine was pure and life-giving as we met up in Washington Square Park. With cool breezes, people's laughter, and live bluegrass in the air, it became easier to talk about darkest evil. I asked Nick if he saw similarities between the Vatican's current cover-up and what happened with Franklin.

"It's exactly the same," he said. "Their M.O. is deny, deny, deny. If any victims come forward, slam them. That formula has been used forever."

What about Father Gabriele Amorth, the chief exorcist at the Vatican? Amorth made headlines in the UK press with his revelation that the Devil was running amok inside the Vatican. The problem is serious -- there are "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon."

Nick was unfazed: "I would agree with him, but I don't want to come off as anti-Catholic. Some of the most spiritually developed people I know are Catholic. I've had to enlarge my spiritual life to do this story, because it's drenched in so much evil." Nick is a practicing Quaker.
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Jan 5, 2011 – I took it so seriously at the time that I went to Rome and met with Cardinal Ratzinger.... Ratzinger is now in the limelight over this issue, but he couldn't get ... At least certain elements of Boys Town were being improperly used.
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Jan 5, 2011 – I took it so seriously at the time that I went to Rome and met with Cardinal Ratzinger.... Ratzinger is now in the limelight over this issue, but he couldn't get ... At least certain elements of Boys Town were being improperly used.
All Churches are not perfect.
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Yee of little faith, yee cannot find because yee did not search fox news...lol
Here yee go laddie, enjoy...
'Jesus Of Nazareth:" Pope's Final Book On Jesus Claims No Animals In Manger; Virgin Birth Was Historical Truth
In his book, Benedict sidesteps the extrabiblical legends and focuses solely on what's contained in the Gospel accounts of the New Testament.
The three wise men from the Christmas story, Benedict concedes, could be inspired by a theological idea rather than by a historical event.
The star of Bethlehem, he notes, has been convincingly identified with a major planetary conjunction that took place in the years 7-6 B.C.
6 to 7 BC??? So when was a child of a virgin supposedly born again?the pope says the Christian calendar is actually based on a blunder by a sixth century monk, who Benedict says was several years off in his calculation of Jesus' birth date...
Benedict also recalls that, according to the Gospels, there are no animals in the Bethlehem stable to warm the newborn Jesus. But, he adds, no Nativity scene would be complete without them...
He also debunks the claim that angels sang at the birth, a staple theme of Christmas carols...and there is more...
12:47 PM ET
Share this on: Facebook Twitter Digg del.icio.us reddit MySpace StumbleUpon Jews did not kill Jesus, pope writes in new book
The Jewish people are not collectively responsible for the death of Jesus, Pope Benedict XVI writes a book to be published next week.
Many Catholics and other Christians blamed Jews for Jesus' death for hundreds of years, but the Catholic Church formally repudiated that assertion in the 1960s.
Benedict underlines the new position in his book "Jesus of Nazareth."
"Who has insisted on the condemnation of Jesus to death?" he asks in the book, referring to scenes in the Gospels where the people of Jerusalem demand that Roman governor Pontius Pilate have Jesus crucified.
The Gospel of John says the people in question were "the Judeans," but the pope says the term "does not refer to - unlike the modern reader may tend to interpret - the people of Israel as such, and it doesn't even have a 'racist' connotation."
Far from meaning all Jewish people, Benedict writes, "the circle of prosecutors pursuing the death of Jesus" is the "aristocracy of the Temple," or the priesthood.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/va...
I know it makes you uncomfortable to think outside your prescribed box of comfort but I ask thee again tinyearl, why is it that the pedestal leader of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? Coincidence perhaps?
ABs the bottom line remains true that the Pope is accurate.

It was the sins of humankind that killed Jesus, and the Pope and Scripture still remain factual.

Even I stopped believing in Santa Claus and the bible doesn't say 3 wise men.

SO WHAT!

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All Churches are not perfect.
But all are evil! www.youtube.com/watch...
Jan 1, 2008 - 10 min - Uploaded by Luen04
Jesus Camp is a 2006 documentary directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a pentecostal summer ...
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<quoted text> But all are evil! www.youtube.com/watch...
Jan 1, 2008 - 10 min - Uploaded by Luen04
Jesus Camp is a 2006 documentary directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a pentecostal summer ...
You are broad brushing a whole religion for a few bad apples.

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