'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276670 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Linktv org

East Islip, NY

#285585 Nov 27, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text> But all are evil! www.youtube.com/watch...
Jan 1, 2008 - 10 min - Uploaded by Luen04
Jesus Camp is a 2006 documentary directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a pentecostal summer ...
You are broad brushing a whole religion for a few bad apples.
ABs

United States

#285586 Nov 27, 2012
Linktv org wrote:
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ABs the bottom line remains true that the Pope is accurate.
It was the sins of humankind that killed Jesus, and the Pope and Scripture still remain factual.
Even I stopped believing in Santa Claus and the bible doesn't say 3 wise men.
SO WHAT!
lol
Can appreciate your faith tinyearl, my son is the same way as I once was, but as we become a more worldly aware nation I can't help but wonder and re-assess, in light of how many are killed and how many are are opressed in the muddle eastern regions simply because they can't agree on who the the real god is...so I ask again, for the sake of discussion, why is it that these pedestal leaders such as muhammid, jesus, the imams, et all...of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? I am simply amazed that so many people can put their faith in a person who professes the moon physically split in half while so many others will curse, condemn and hate people who refuse to accept the virgin story...how many have died for these causes, how many have been murdered and persecuted? And watching the goings on in libya, israel, gaza, egypt, et all...it will never end until one or the other faith is eliminated...very sad indeedy
ABs

United States

#285587 Nov 27, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text> But all are evil! www.youtube.com/watch...
Jan 1, 2008 - 10 min - Uploaded by Luen04
Jesus Camp is a 2006 documentary directed by Rachel Grady and Heidi Ewing about a pentecostal summer ...
Gotta agree with tinyearl on this oe, lane bryant...broadbrushing the many for the acts of the few...if that were the case, looking at frankie one could ascertain that all liberal men would be salami packing, tube sucking cat owners who wear pink tutu's while riding their bike to the ski resort...
ABs

United States

#285588 Nov 27, 2012
Linktv org wrote:
The President’s Opening Bid on a Grand Bargain: Aim High
By Robert Reich / November 12, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/aevft55
I hope the President starts negotiations over a “grand bargain” for deficit reduction by aiming high. After all, he won the election. And if the past four years has proven anything it’s that the White House should not begin with a compromise.
Assuming the goal is $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next decade (that’s the consensus of the Simpson-Bowles commission, the Congressional Budget Office, and most independent analysts), here’s what the President should propose:
First, raise taxes on the rich – and by more than the highest marginal rate under Bill Clinton or even a 30 percent (so-called Buffett Rule) minimum rate on millionaires. Remember: America’s top earners are now wealthier than they’ve ever been, and they’re taking home a larger share of total income and wealth than top earners have received in over 80 years.
Why not go back sixty years when Americans earning over $1 million in today’s dollars paid 55.2 percent of it in income taxes, after taking all deductions and credits? If they were taxed at that rate now, they’d pay at least $80 billion more annually — which would reduce the budget deficit by about $1 trillion over the next decade. That’s a quarter of the $4 trillion in deficit reduction right there.
A 2% surtax on the wealth of the richest one-half of 1 percent would bring in another $750 billion over the decade. A one-half of 1 percent tax on financial transactions would bring in an additional $250 billion.
Add this up and we get $2 trillion over ten years — half of the deficit-reduction goal.
Raise the capital gains rate to match the rate on ordinary income and cap the mortgage interest deduction at $12,000 a year, and that’s another $1 trillion over ten years. So now we’re up to $3 trillion in additional revenue.
Eliminate special tax preferences for oil and gas, price supports for big agriculture, tax breaks and research subsidies for Big Pharma, unnecessary weapons systems for military contractors, and indirect subsidies to the biggest banks on Wall Street, and we’re nearly there.
End the Bush tax cuts on incomes between $250,000 and $1 million, and — bingo — we made it:$4 trillion over 10 years.
And we haven’t had to raise taxes on America’s beleaguered middle class, cut Social Security or Medicare and Medicaid, reduce spending on education or infrastructure, or cut programs for the poor.
Mr. President, I’d recommend this as your opening bid. With enough luck and pluck, maybe even your closing bid. And if enough Americans are behind you, it could even be the final deal./ http://robertreich.org/post/35591032374
Economists for Peace and Security
http://www.epsusa.org/
How about we just appropriate less for the guvmint...appropriate less for aid to other countries, especially those who dispise us, appropriate less for failed programs...etc..

Obumble's new sogan for the next 4 years...Spare change you can count on...spend more tax more
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#285589 Nov 27, 2012
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

On October 7, 2002, Bush repeated,“The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.” He cited as “evidence” of this the claim that “Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.” He added,“Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof—the smoking gun—that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.”

Turning to the actual assessments of the U.S.’s intelligence agencies, the first CIA assessment of the tubes was published on April 10, 2001, and stated that they “have little use other than for a uranium enrichment program.” Yet no explanation for how this conclusion was arrived at was provided, and the report also acknowledged that “using aluminum tubes in a centrifuge effort would be inefficient and a step backward from the specialty steel machines Iraq was poised to mass produce at the onset of the Gulf War.” The Department of Energy (DOE) issued their own far more detailed analysis of the tubes the following day, which stated that their “specifications are not consistent with a gas centrifuge end use.”

Additionally, there was no evidence for “related procurement efforts” that would be also required to produce centrifuges, and if the tubes were intended for this purpose, it would be “a centrifuge design quite different from any Iraq is known to have.” The DOE report stated,“[W]e assess that the procurement activity more likely supports a different application, such as conventional ordnance production. For example, the tube specifications and quantity appear to be generally consistent with their use as launch tubes for man-held anti-armor rockets or as tactical rocket casings.” Additionally, the lax manner in which Iraq had handled its procurement of the tubes “seems to better match our expectations for a conventional Iraqi military buy than a major purchase for a clandestine weapons-of-mass destruction program.” After further research, the DOE issued another report on May 9 noting that “Iraq has purchased similar aluminum tubes previously to manufacture chambers (tubes) for a multiple rocket launcher.”
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#285590 Nov 27, 2012
The CIA responded with a report on June 14 acknowledging the error of its initial assessment. It admitted that the tubes “could be used as rocket bodies for multiple rocket launchers”, but nevertheless clung to its false claim that their specifications “are suitable for uranium enrichment gas centrifuge rotors” and that a conventional use was “less likely”. Once again, no rationale was offered for its differing assessment from the nation’s top experts on centrifuges at the DOE. The CIA issued another report on July 2 falsely claiming that they “are constructed from high strength aluminum (7075-T6) and are manufactured to the tight tolerances necessary for gas centrifuges. The dimensions of the tubes match those of a publicly available gas centrifuge design from the 1950s, known as the Zippe centrifuge.” It falsely stated that “the specifications for the tubes far exceed any known conventional weapons application, including rocket motor casings for 81-mm multiple rocket launchers.”

The IAEA first became alerted to the tubes issue in the summer of 2001, and immediately recognized that Iraq had previously used tubes with identical dimensions in a conventional rocket program, for which there was extensive documentation. A CIA analyst from the Center for Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control (WINPAC) identified simply as “Joe”, was largely responsible for creating and propagating the argument that the tubes were intended for a centrifuge program. He travelled to Vienna in July to try to convince the IAEA experts of his position, arguing that after cutting the tubes and machining down the thickness, they could be used in a centrifuge that would then have the same mass as rotors in a Zippe centrifuge design (named after Soviet scientist Gernot Zippe). The IAEA experts pointed out to him that there were numerous flaws in his analysis, such as the fact that he had failed to calculate the mass of end caps and other components of such a design.

As the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessment on Iraq would later observe, nine additional intelligence reports were produced over the next year discussing the aluminum tubes, but “[n]one of these assessments provided any additional information to support the CIA’s analysis”. The Senate Committee’s report offered useful insight into how the CIA was controlling the flow of information on the tubes, revealing how “Most of the assessments were disseminated in limited channels, only to high-level policymakers and were not available to intelligence analysts from other agencies.”

When asked by the Committee why this was so, CIA officials replied that they were written as responses to specific questions and intended for the President. Apparently relying on the CIA’s false claim that the tubes were a “match” to the Zippe design and being out of the loop about the DOE’s contrary assessment, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) produced a report on August 2, 2001 embracing the CIA’s case with the comment that “DIA analysts found the CIA WINPAC presentation to be very compelling.”

“I be me, and you are...”

Since: Dec 06

in a city...

#285591 Nov 27, 2012
Therealnews com wrote:
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One God in three persons.
The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
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Genesis 1:26-28
The Beginning
26 Then God said,“Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them,“Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
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John 6:35
Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty.
A Bar beer and peanuts...:) Thank you Lord!!
And thanks for the weed too...

“I be me, and you are...”

Since: Dec 06

in a city...

#285592 Nov 28, 2012
Oh and so Jesus gave us the Nail and then the Hammer so what would his Bro have given
glistening Adventure of the wealth there of to what a Nail and Hammer can do?

It builds...re builds and creates...

Nice...Good Night I think the war will be done soon... Pro-create something the time of it I think is close at hand....tick tack tick tack when the scariest of all Stories will win the Nobel Prize...

“I be me, and you are...”

Since: Dec 06

in a city...

#285593 Nov 28, 2012
What's the CIA to Inter-pole
rider

Marquette, MI

#285596 Nov 28, 2012
Christianity is based on fear
Christianity preys on the innocent
Christianity is based on dishonesty
Christianity is extremely egocentric
Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality
Christianity breeds authoritarianism
Christianity is cruel
Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific
Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex
Christianity produces sexual misery
Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality
Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils
Christianity depreciates the natural world
Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization
Christianity sanctions slavery
Christianity is misogynistic
Christianity is homophobic
The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ's teachings
The Bible is riddled with contradictions
Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions
ABs

Aiken, SC

#285597 Nov 28, 2012
rider wrote:
...Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions
Well then I am glad you cleared that up Lane...at least we now know for sure that christianity borrowed NOTHING from Islam since it was invented 700 years after, eh?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#285598 Nov 28, 2012
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
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News you will not see in KSA...
LOS ANGELES — Fuming for two months in a jail cell here, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has had plenty of time to reconsider the wisdom of making “Innocence of Muslims,” his crude YouTube movie trailer depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a bloodthirsty, philandering thug.

Does Mr. Nakoula now regret the footage? After all, it fueled deadly protests across the Islamic world and led the unlikely filmmaker to his own arrest for violating his supervised release on a fraud conviction.

Not at all. In his first public comments since his incarceration soon after the video gained international attention in September, Mr. Nakoula told The New York Times that he would go to great lengths to convey what he called the ACTUAL truth about Muhammad. I thought, before I wrote this script, he said, that I should burn myself in a public square to let the American people and the people of the world know this message that I believe in.

In explaining his reasons for the film, Mr. Nakoula, 55, born in Egypt, cited the 2009 massacre at Fort Hood, Tex., as a prime example of the violence committed under the sign of Allah.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/us/from-the...
frank

Oakland, CA

#285599 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Can appreciate your faith tinyearl, my son is the same way as I once was, but as we become a more worldly aware nation I can't help but wonder and re-assess, in light of how many are killed and how many are are opressed in the muddle eastern regions simply because they can't agree on who the the real god is...so I ask again, for the sake of discussion, why is it that these pedestal leaders such as muhammid, jesus, the imams, et all...of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? I am simply amazed that so many people can put their faith in a person who professes the moon physically split in half while so many others will curse, condemn and hate people who refuse to accept the virgin story...how many have died for these causes, how many have been murdered and persecuted? And watching the goings on in libya, israel, gaza, egypt, et all...it will never end until one or the other faith is eliminated...very sad indeedy
While it is sad it is,nevertheless, well said my friend ...
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285600 Nov 28, 2012
Tinka wrote:
<quoted text>
A Bar beer and peanuts...:) Thank you Lord!!
And thanks for the weed too...
I do not drink or smoke but the peanuts seem OK.

lol
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285601 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
How about we just appropriate less for the guvmint...appropriate less for aid to other countries, especially those who dispise us, appropriate less for failed programs...etc..
Obumble's new sogan for the next 4 years...Spare change you can count on...spend more tax more
I agree cut foreign aid. cut corporate welfare, cut tax loopholes that are only in place to benefit the 0.1% of the wealthy, ie Wall Street, AT&T, Exxon/Mobil et cetera.

Then audit the Pentagon with $Billions and $Billions of waste and fraud.

Social Security is solvent and does not add one dime to the deficit.

The wealthiest got a free ride with the Bush tax cuts and now is the time to raise them.

Bush is the only president in American history that did not raise taxes on the wealthy to pay for two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is un american IMO.
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285602 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Can appreciate your faith tinyearl, my son is the same way as I once was, but as we become a more worldly aware nation I can't help but wonder and re-assess, in light of how many are killed and how many are are opressed in the muddle eastern regions simply because they can't agree on who the the real god is...so I ask again, for the sake of discussion, why is it that these pedestal leaders such as muhammid, jesus, the imams, et all...of all major religions derive from the same part of the world, a part of the world with an overwhelming population of religious fanatics? I am simply amazed that so many people can put their faith in a person who professes the moon physically split in half while so many others will curse, condemn and hate people who refuse to accept the virgin story...how many have died for these causes, how many have been murdered and persecuted? And watching the goings on in libya, israel, gaza, egypt, et all...it will never end until one or the other faith is eliminated...very sad indeedy
I agree with most of this post.

An authentic Jew would not commit these crimes.

An authentic Christian would not commit these crimes.

An authentic Muslim would not commit these crimes.

But what does the scriptures teach us about who controls this world system?

Surly ABs you remember what happened in the Garden of Eden.

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1 John 4:4

But you belong to God, my dear children. You have already won a victory over those people, because the Spirit who lives in you is greater than the spirit who lives in the world.
Democracynow org

East Islip, NY

#285603 Nov 28, 2012
TAX HAVENS CAUSE POVERTY
"Taxes are what we pay for civilized society"
http://tinyurl.com/9jlsk
Tax havens are a major cause of inequality and poverty. They function as a result of collusion between banks and other financial intermediaries and the governments of states and micro-states which host their activities. The major culprits include the United States, Britain, Switzerland and other European countries which promote tax havens and prevent efforts to clamp down on their activities.
http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/front_content.p...

Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else / April 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ìthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/181339-1

France's 'Toughest' Budget: Super Tax on the Super Rich
New budget released Friday has 75% tax on millionaires, still commits to spending cuts / September 28, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/cn6abv8
France unveiled on Friday what it describes as its toughest budget ever, which includes a 75% tax on millionaires in an attempt to tackle its deficit.
"It's a combat budget to fight against a debt that only continues to increase and that rests on the shoulders of French taxpayers and generations to come," Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said Friday morning
"We're asking the wealthiest taxpayers to make an effort," Ayrault added after a cabinet meeting. "As for companies, we're bringing back justice. CAC-40 firms pay less taxes than small companies…now we're asking them to contribute."
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/...

The Tea Party sold out to Wall Street
GOP freshmen, big-bucks donors hobnob at resort
March 16, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/85yw3o9
Sandy Adams (Fla.), Quico Canseco (Texas), Rick Crawford (Ark.), Bob Dold (Ill.), Sean Duffy (Wis.), Stephen Fincher (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Daniel Webster (Fla.), Mike Grimm (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), Jim Renacci (Ohio) and Cory Gardner (Col).
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-573986...
rider

Marquette, MI

#285604 Nov 28, 2012
rider

Marquette, MI

#285605 Nov 28, 2012
Tinka wrote:
Oh and so Jesus gave us the Nail and then the Hammer so what would his Bro have given
glistening Adventure of the wealth there of to what a Nail and Hammer can do?
It builds...re builds and creates...
Nice...Good Night I think the war will be done soon... Pro-create something the time of it I think is close at hand....tick tack tick tack when the scariest of all Stories will win the Nobel Prize...
little did he know we would use them on him. What’s the difference between the real Jesus and a picture of Jesus? It only takes one nail to hang up the picture.

rider

Marquette, MI

#285607 Nov 28, 2012
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then I am glad you cleared that up Lane...at least we now know for sure that christianity borrowed NOTHING from Islam since it was invented 700 years after, eh?
swallow the santorum, it isn,t mouth wash, now try repeating yourself.

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