'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276626 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Romney Flip Flopper Liar

New York, NY

#284433 Oct 22, 2012
arbitrageur wrote:
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You'd really have to say that about Japan, who had more Treasuries than China, at the time.
So what did Japan get? They need oil the most.
I still think the rhetoric is tired. Do you have anything relevant?
Japan gets most energy from Nuclear power and their cars get GREAT gas mileage.

Even as we speak Japan can rapidly make Nuclear Bombs in a matter of months if they choose to do so.
ABs

Aiken, SC

#284434 Oct 22, 2012
frank wrote:
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Right-wingers (GOPers) are certifiably f-ing crazy!
20 percent of GOPers believe Mitt Romney deserves more credit than Barack Obama for killing Osama bin Laden.
41 percent of GOPers believe China is the world's leading economic power.
70 percent of GOPers still believe communism and the Soviet Union as America's main concern.
20 percent of GOPers worry about becoming a victim of terrorism. Fact: you are a hundred times more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist!
25 percent of GOPers don't know that the United States declared its independence from Great Britain they actually think God put us here!?
71 percent of GOPers believe Iran already has nuclear weapons ready to be delivered to the US mainland
90 percent of GOPers believe that 30 percent of the federal budget goes to foreign aid.
30 percent of GOPers think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the 9/11 attack
80 percent of young GOPers can't find Afghanistan, Iran, Israel or Iraq on a map.
99 percent of GOPers think that Obama was bore in Kenya and is a secret Muslim
Be my guest vote Romney :-/
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Which one is the choice of anti-incumbents?
ABs

Aiken, SC

#284435 Oct 22, 2012
MUQ wrote:
http://www.informationclearing house.info/article32108.htm
The Natural Map of the Middle East
By Patrick J. Buchanan
...
The natural map of th emuddle east, did it include the Jewish state of Israel during the 1st and 2nd temple periods, you know, before the muslim hoardes stole their land?

Hey comrade muq, why you not talk with me anymore? Are you mad at me for some unknown reason or does the mullah order you not to talk with non-believers? I have a question for you, do you think Allah approves of these muslims actions?

Sonia Dridi has become the latest female foreign journalist to fall victim to mob violence in Cairo. She was attacked and groped by around 30 men while reporting live on protests in the city's Tahrir Square, the Guardian reports. Her colleague Ashraf Khalil, assisted by a few bystanders, managed to get her to safety in a restaurant that closed its metal doors to keep the mob at bay. The network says its employees are safe, but "extremely shocked" by the attack.

"The crowd surged in and then it went crazy. It was basically me keeping her in a bear hug, both arms around her and face-to-face," Khalil tells the AP. CBS' Lara Logan was beaten and sexually assaulted in the same square last year. "Sexual violence is a way of denying women journalists access to the story in Egypt," Logan told the New York Daily News after hearing of the latest attack. "Its not accidental. Its by design."

What is your obervation of the story above muq? Allah approved or not? Why muslim men hate women so much? Why muslim men do whatever it takes to keep women down? Why muslim women not equal to muslim men?
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284436 Oct 22, 2012
Sandy wrote:
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Because of the extreme corruption that has and continues to go on, regulations must be imposed before permits become valid. Thank your Halliburtons, etc... for this mess.
Drill everywhere? Are you sure he wants to ruin the precious golf courses around the country?
4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284437 Oct 22, 2012
ABs wrote:
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The natural map of th emuddle east, did it include the Jewish state of Israel during the 1st and 2nd temple periods, you know, before the muslim hoardes stole their land?
Hey comrade muq, why you not talk with me anymore? Are you mad at me for some unknown reason or does the mullah order you not to talk with non-believers? I have a question for you, do you think Allah approves of these muslims actions?
Sonia Dridi has become the latest female foreign journalist to fall victim to mob violence in Cairo. She was attacked and groped by around 30 men while reporting live on protests in the city's Tahrir Square, the Guardian reports. Her colleague Ashraf Khalil, assisted by a few bystanders, managed to get her to safety in a restaurant that closed its metal doors to keep the mob at bay. The network says its employees are safe, but "extremely shocked" by the attack.
"The crowd surged in and then it went crazy. It was basically me keeping her in a bear hug, both arms around her and face-to-face," Khalil tells the AP. CBS' Lara Logan was beaten and sexually assaulted in the same square last year. "Sexual violence is a way of denying women journalists access to the story in Egypt," Logan told the New York Daily News after hearing of the latest attack. "Its not accidental. Its by design."
What is your obervation of the story above muq? Allah approved or not? Why muslim men hate women so much? Why muslim men do whatever it takes to keep women down? Why muslim women not equal to muslim men?
You rightwingers have a hell of a problem trying to solve this one. Will you now support Marxism over rightwing extreamism? Swat is a place known for religious extremism and the Taliban. A war has been going on between the Pakistan Army and the draconian religious fanatics it itself created and nourished just two years ago. During all those months of warthe Marxists not only exposed the reality of the Islamic fundamentalists and their connections with the Pakistani state but also organized the local masses against this evil nexus. Many comrades themselves became victims of this religious terrorism including one comrade who was shot and had eight bullets in himfrom a G-3 rifle. Only his will power and hatred against the cruelty of the state and the Taliban kept him alive.
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284438 Oct 22, 2012
Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, anti-communism, nativism and racialism. Typically, the term far right is applied to fascists and neo-Nazis, and major elements of fascism have been deemed clearly far right, such as its belief that supposedly superior people have the right to dominate society while purging allegedly inferior elements, and in the case of Nazism genocide of people deemed to be inferior. The far right claims that superior people should proportionally have greater rights than inferior people. The far right has historically favoured an elitist society based on belief of the legitimacy of the rule of a supposed superior minority over the inferior masses. Far-right politics usually involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable. Concerning the socio-cultural dimension (nationality, culture and migration), a far-right position could be the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate, and that the interests of ones own group should be prioritised.
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284439 Oct 22, 2012
Supporters of the historic Russian far-right monarchist and antisemitic ultranationalist Black Hundreds movement marching in 1905.
Members of the American Ku Klux Klan (KKK) marching in a mass rally in Washington, D.C. in 1928. The KKK are a far right white supremacist and Christian fundamentalist organization.
Nazis alongside members of the far-right reactionary and monarchist German National People's Party (DNVP), in 1931 during the Nazi-DNVP alliance in the Harzburg Front.
Election poster of the historic Israeli far-right Zionist and Jewish fundamentalist Kach movement showing its leader Meir Kahane. The poster's text says: "This time [vote] Kahane: Because he is one of us! Give him the power to finally take care of them Arabs!"
Members of the Japanese far right Zaitokukai demonstrating in 2010 against the right of "foreigners" (Koreans in Japan) to vote.
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284440 Oct 22, 2012
In December 2009 at the latest,[13] Yousafzai began participating in the Institute for War and Peace Reporting's "Open Minds" project, which brought journalism training and discussions of current affairs to 42 schools in Pakistan. The program also edited their work and put them in touch with local newspapers. Yousafzai's own success had inspired other young people, and many of those approaching the program were girls.[27]

Yousafzai had hoped to organize the Malala Education Foundation, which would help poor girls go to school.[9] A video from April 2012 refers to the foundation.[8]

On 13 July 2012, Yousafzai attended a two-day summer school organized by the Pakistani section of the International Marxist Tendency,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284441 Oct 22, 2012
arbitrageur wrote:
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Biden was a PNACer. No wonder he is in the position he is in.
You are finally making your libertairen evil government conspiracies transparent. Have you been in touch with Michael Ruppert? David Icke has a executive position for you.
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284442 Oct 22, 2012
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Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284443 Oct 22, 2012
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Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284444 Oct 22, 2012
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284445 Oct 22, 2012
The innovation that allowed some control over the chaos was the oil pipeline. Barrels (real barrels, made of oak) were expensive, sometimes worth more than the oil they contained. They were expensive to transport on wagons, too. By 1866, pipelines, made of wood at first, had been built to the major producing fields, transporting oil to railheads where tanker cars could be filled. After that, there was only one real choice: the oil flowed to the nearest industrial city for refining, Cleveland, Ohio.

It was the genius of John D. Rockefeller that found a way to take advantage of this situation, which was merely a matter of simple geography. The oil fields were scattered in rough country, owned by small-time entrepreneurs, and new discoveries were unpredictable in location and size. They were, however, likely to occur in the same region, and they would be connected by pipelines to the existing rail network, and funneled to Cleveland. After refining, the kerosene was marketed nation-wide.

Rockefeller reasoned that the way to control the oil industry was within the transportation and refining section. In particular, refineries were comparatively long-term investments. At the age of 20, Rockefeller had entered business just as the Civil War began, and made a lot of money supplying the Army with wheat, salt, and pork. In 1863 Cleveland was connected with the Pennsylvania oilfields by rail, and Rockefeller and a partner opened an oil refinery in Cleveland. In 1866 he bought out his partner, and at the age of 26 owned the largest refinery in the city. Using the size of his shipments to negotiate low prices for railroad transport, outcompeting his rivals for price and quality, Rockefeller and his Standard Oil Company became the largest oil company in North America, amalgamating and controlling the refining side of the industry. By 1879 Standard Oil controlled 90% of the refining capacity in the United States, and all the pipelines flowing out of the Pennsylvania oilfields.

In the 1880s, Standard moved into oilfield production too. By 1890, it was producing or buying over 80% of the oil produced in the United States, and refining and selling it. Standard was exporting kerosene, too: half of the kerosene it produced was exported, mainly to Europe, and kerosene was the fourth-largest American export commodity.

At the end of the century, the Standard Oil Trust controlled the oil industry of the Americas, while Shell was a major player in much of the rest of the world.

Three major events altered this situation: in 1901 the great Spindletop gusher brought Texas oil into the picture, eventually bringing Gulf and Texaco into the big leagues; in 1911 the US Government used anti-trust legislation to break up the Standard company; and the World War of 1914-1918 brought to everyone's attention the fact that petroleum was now vital to waging and winning wars. The scene was set for oil to dominate much economic, political, and military thinking, and that situation continues today.
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284446 Oct 22, 2012
Gypsy

Gwinn, MI

#284447 Oct 22, 2012
frank

Oakland, CA

#284448 Oct 22, 2012
Gypsy wrote:
The innovation that allowed some control over the chaos was the oil pipeline. Barrels (real barrels, made of oak) were expensive, sometimes worth more than the oil they contained. They were expensive to transport on wagons, too. By 1866, pipelines, made of wood at first, had been built to the major producing fields, transporting oil to railheads where tanker cars could be filled. After that, there was only one real choice: the oil flowed to the nearest industrial city for refining, Cleveland, Ohio.
It was the genius of John D. Rockefeller that found a way to take advantage of this situation, which was merely a matter of simple geography. The oil fields were scattered in rough country, owned by small-time entrepreneurs, and new discoveries were unpredictable in location and size. They were, however, likely to occur in the same region, and they would be connected by pipelines to the existing rail network, and funneled to Cleveland. After refining, the kerosene was marketed nation-wide.
Rockefeller reasoned that the way to control the oil industry was within the transportation and refining section. In particular, refineries were comparatively long-term investments. At the age of 20, Rockefeller had entered business just as the Civil War began, and made a lot of money supplying the Army with wheat, salt, and pork. In 1863 Cleveland was connected with the Pennsylvania oilfields by rail, and Rockefeller and a partner opened an oil refinery in Cleveland. In 1866 he bought out his partner, and at the age of 26 owned the largest refinery in the city. Using the size of his shipments to negotiate low prices for railroad transport, outcompeting his rivals for price and quality, Rockefeller and his Standard Oil Company became the largest oil company in North America, amalgamating and controlling the refining side of the industry. By 1879 Standard Oil controlled 90% of the refining capacity in the United States, and all the pipelines flowing out of the Pennsylvania oilfields.
In the 1880s, Standard moved into oilfield production too. By 1890, it was producing or buying over 80% of the oil produced in the United States, and refining and selling it. Standard was exporting kerosene, too: half of the kerosene it produced was exported, mainly to Europe, and kerosene was the fourth-largest American export commodity.
At the end of the century, the Standard Oil Trust controlled the oil industry of the Americas, while Shell was a major player in much of the rest of the world.
Three major events altered this situation: in 1901 the great Spindletop gusher brought Texas oil into the picture, eventually bringing Gulf and Texaco into the big leagues; in 1911 the US Government used anti-trust legislation to break up the Standard company; and the World War of 1914-1918 brought to everyone's attention the fact that petroleum was now vital to waging and winning wars. The scene was set for oil to dominate much economic, political, and military thinking, and that situation continues today.
Unlike Romney, who is not a business man, he is predatory investor, master financial speculator and manipulator, who bought, sold, flipped, and stripped businesses making huge profits without contributing a thing to the economy, quite the contrary, it cost a lot of peoples jobs. Rockefeller built real businesses contributing massively to the US economy, I guess you might say he still is!
uIDIOTRACESMAKEW ORLDPEACE

United States

#284449 Oct 22, 2012
Web of Debt
by Ellen Hodgson Brown, 2007, paperback, p207

The price of oil suddenly quadrupled in 1974. That highly suspicious rise occurred soon after an oil deal was engineered by U.S. interests with the royal family of Saudia Arabia, the largest oil producer in OPEC (the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries). The deal was evidently brokered by U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. It involved an agreement by OPEC to sell oil only for dollars in return for a secret U.S. agreement to arm Saudi Arabia and keep the House of Saud in power. The U.S. dollar, which had formerly been backed by gold, was now "backed" by oil.
uIDIOTRACESMAKEW ORLDPEACE

United States

#284450 Oct 22, 2012
The Secret History of the American Empire
by John Perkins, p171
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Our assignment was twofold: to formulate a strategy to ensure that OPEC would funnel the billions of dollars we spent on oil back to U.S. companies and to establish a new "oil standard" that would replace the former "gold standard."

... As far as the media was concerned, the House of Saud agreed to three important conditions; it would: 1) invest a large portion of its petrodollars in U.S. government securities; 2) allow the U.S. Treasury Department to use the trillions of dollars in interest from these securities to hire U.S. corporations to westernize Saudi Arabia; and 3) maintain the price of oil within limits acceptable to the corporatocracy. For its part, the U.S. government promised to keep the Saud family in power.

There was an additional agreement, one that made few headlines but was crucial to the corporatocracy's need to maintain the dollar as the standard global currency. Saudi Arabia committed to trading oil exclusively in U.S. dollars. With the scratch of a pen, the dollar's sovereignty was reestablished. Oil replaced gold as the measure of a currency's value.
uIDIOTRACESMAKEW ORLDPEACE

United States

#284451 Oct 22, 2012
Lawrence Wilkerson, former chiet of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell

[The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) plan] was regime change throughout the Middle East, starting with Baghdad, Damascus, Tehran, and rolling on through the Middle East, ultimately even probably rolling on to Riyadh, one of our erstwhile allies for the last half-century, Saudi Arabia.
[The PNAC philosophy] would use hard power, military power, principally, to initiate this and even continue it if they found it was necessary to do so. That keeps the military-industrial complex alive, it keeps Halliburton alive, it keeps Lockheed alive, it keeps the entire complex the United States had developed that I call the national security state alive and well, after the demise of the Soviet Union.
John_Pa

Ardsley, NY

#284452 Oct 22, 2012
arbitrageur wrote:
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Biden was a PNACer. No wonder he is in the position he is in.
biden is sitting pretty. If there is an electoral tie. He could be Romney's VP

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